Open your checkbook and write your checks

[Coach34]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows

[msstate7]

We didn't lose 3/4 sec games bc of talent. We lost them bc of coaching. Quit making excuses

[Coach34]

We didn't lose 3/4 sec games bc of talent. We lost them bc of coaching. Quit making excuses

Write your check like the baseball guys did and demand a firing.

[HoopsDawg]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows

And that guy outplayed the highest paid QB in the SEC. And we have low iq fans wanting him benched for a true freshman. Sad.

[SPMT]

We didn't lose 3/4 sec games bc of talent. We lost them bc of coaching. Quit making excuses

Fact!

Lebby is a terrible head coach. No concept of game flow.

[Bothrops]

We would have to have so much money to win in football now it's stupid. We'd have to out pay everyone just for players to reluctantly come here. Forty million for a roster...fifty million for a roster. For one year! One! Give this shit up

[Coach34]

Fact!

Lebby is a terrible head coach. No concept of game flow.

He certainly made mistakes. Write your check and make it happen.

[Santiago]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows

Clark Lea says hello. And we had opportunities to get a different QB .

[msstate7]

He certainly made mistakes. Write your check and make it happen.

Unless you write a check, you can't call a spade a spade -c34. You've fell off harder than our football program.

[HoopsDawg]

Write your check like the baseball guys did and demand a firing.

Yeah right. That guy/girl doesn?t go to games or do anything other than complain on the message board non-stop. He/she wanted Jans fired.

[Dawgface]

We would have to have so much money to win in football now it's stupid. We'd have to out pay everyone just for players to reluctantly come here. Forty million for a roster...fifty million for a roster. For one year! One! Give this shit up

True. There is really no hope. Just keep collecting the checks to fund the other programs as always mentioned here. And live with 2-4 win seasons in football. I’m not being sarcastic either.

[Coach34]

Unless you write a check, you can't call a spade a spade -c34. You've fell off harder than our football program.

This aint 2015 anymore. You guys dont seem to understand that what we knew as college football doesnt exist anymore.

I wont get on Lebby's ass playing with a bottom paid of the SEC roster going against much higher paid rosters. You have 80 yard punt returns because you lack talent.

Lame Kitten has a $25MM roster and we have a $15 roster. Of course he is going to beat us. He has players and depth. We have some players and litte depth. We are Cleveland in the NFL. They are Buffalo

[msstate7]

Yeah right. That guy/girl doesn?t go to games or do anything other than complain on the message board non-stop. He/she wanted Jans fired.

I actually give money every month. Am I giving more than you? I don't know, but I do give. You've been sucking off Lebby since last asu game when I told you he was a loser

[msstate7]

This aint 2015 anymore. You guys dont seem to understand that what we knew as college football doesnt exist anymore.

I wont get on Lebby's ass playing with a bottom paid of the SEC roster going against much higher paid rosters. You have 80 yard punt returns because you lack talent.

Lame Kitten has a $25MM roster and we have a $15 roster. Of course he is going to beat us. He has players and depth. We have some players and litte depth. We are Cleveland in the NFL. They are Buffalo

We aren't losing bc of players.

[Coach34]

Clark Lea says hello. And we had opportunities to get a different QB .

Clark Lea has alot more funding than we do. Their starting QB makes more than our QB room combined

[maroonmania]

I could actually handle losing games because of lack of talent. Losing games because of stupid coaching decisions and stupid acts by players on the field is tougher to stomach. Not sure money stops people from doing stupid things that get you beat.

[Coach34]

We aren't losing bc of players.

We scored 38 points and lost. Lebby didnt rough the QB on 4th down when we were in total control of the game.

[msstate7]

I could actually handle losing games because of lack of talent. Losing games because of stupid coaching decisions and stupid acts by players on the field is tougher to stomach. Not sure money stops people from doing stupid things that get you beat.

No, it's on everyone but Lebby - C34 and hoops

[msstate7]

We scored 38 points and lost. Lebby didnt rough the QB on 4th down when we were in total control of the game.

Who told me we have a good defense this week? Can't seem to place who that was

[HoopsDawg]

I actually give money every month. Am I giving more than you? I don't know, but I do give. You've been sucking off Lebby since last asu game when I told you he was a loser

The only person sucking anyone off is you with your boyfriend.

I can see that Lebby can coach. He?s 2 plays away from being coach of the year. Of course most of our fanbase is too stupid to see it. You are the ringleader and driver of the shortbus.

[Coach34]

Who told me we have a good defense this week? Can't seem to place who that was

defense played great. Lacked depth. Why do we lack depth? $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows
You know what will be hilariously sad? Watch in typical State fashion the baseball team be mediocre or dare I say terrible this year? We haven?t played a game and you?d think we were in Omaha these past few months with how people were posting before football started. It has yet to be seen that $ fixes the baseball program, and if it can?t fix baseball, it damn sure can?t fix football

[msstate7]

The only person sucking anyone off is you with your boyfriend.

I can see that Lebby can coach. He?s 2 plays away from being coach of the year. Of course most of our fanbase is too stupid to see it. You are the ringleader and driver of the shortbus.

0 and 12. .000 winning %.

[Santiago]

How much NIL helps a coach stop going for it inside his 40 as if he actually has all 5 stars.
how much NIL helps a coach not punt under 2 minutes to one of the best returners in the nation, who the past 2 games torched the other teams?
how much NIL helps a coach manage a game as a HC instead of as a coordinator.

[msstate7]

How much NIL helps a coach stop going for it inside his 40 as if he actually has all 5 stars.
how much NIL helps a coach not punt under 2 minutes to one of the best returners in the nation, who the past 2 games torched the other teams?
how much NIL helps a coach manage a game as a HC instead of as a coordinator.

It's almost as if Lebby isn't a good coach

[DownwardDawg]

It's almost as if Lebby isn't a good coach

Almost.....

[msstate7]

Since it's so very obvious that Lebby is doing a bang up job according to c34 and hoops, I'll bet someone comes for him with all the sec turnover. I mean, he's doing a great job, right? Probably be many suitors

[Bothrops]

True. There is really no hope. Just keep collecting the checks to fund the other programs as always mentioned here. And live with 2-4 win seasons in football. I?m not being sarcastic either.

We are the Prairie View of the P4 now.

[Coursesuper]

You know what will be hilariously sad? Watch in typical State fashion the baseball team be mediocre or dare I say terrible this year? We haven?t played a game and you?d think we were in Omaha these past few months with how people were posting before football started. It has yet to be seen that $ fixes the baseball program, and if it can?t fix baseball, it damn sure can?t fix football

No, the village idiots are. But anyone with a brain should know that even with the current investment we are going to have to earn every out and run. And we have a brutal schedule in front of us. I can?t wait to see the fire them all post that will inevitably happen this coming season.

[msstate7]

No, the village idiots are. But anyone with a brain should know that even with the current investment we are going to have to earn every out and run. And we have a brutal schedule in front of us. I can?t wait to see the fire them all post that will inevitably happen this coming season.

As long as we keep every game close, you gotta be happy.

[PGHBulldogBG]

If only we had hired Cignetti he was available when we were searching. I wonder if Selmon even reached out to him

[Coach34]

We have to keep hiring coordinators for a reason. Young HC's arent pining away for our job.

We fire Lebby? Another coordinator incoming

[Coursesuper]

As long as we keep every game close, you gotta be happy.

You will be the one to call for BOC?s head when we lose a series. You are like bird shit on a statue, always there and annoying as hell.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Serious question. Isn?t Lebby the lowest paid SEC coach currently? Also what is his buyout? You get what you pay for as they say

[msstate7]

You will be the one to call for BOC?s head when we lose a series. You are like bird shit on a statue, always there and annoying as hell.

Nah, I care very little about college baseball.

[Coursesuper]

We have to keep hiring coordinators for a reason. Young HC's arent pining away for our job.

We fire Lebby? Another coordinator incoming

I know you?re gonna say no way, but guys aren?t lining up to be at a place with some of the worst facilities in our league? A fan base that won?t show up and buy tickets and we drag ass in NIL? That?s a hard sell for anyone.

[Coursesuper]

Nah, I care very little about college baseball.

So then as many say, you?re not a real fan. Just a casual. That fits.

[msstate7]

So then as many say, you?re not a real fan. Just a casual. That fits.

Ok.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Look I have been as in with Lebby as anyone. But if there is even a sliver of truth to the him trying to get the Ok State job rumors, we need to help him.

I can admit I was wrong and say we should have hired Jon Sumrall. We will not be able to this time.

[Coursesuper]

Look I have been as in with Lebby as anyone. But if there is even a sliver of truth to the him trying to get the Ok State job rumors, we need to help him.

I can admit I was wrong and say we should have hired Jon Sumrall. We will not be able to this time.

Nope, we won?t. He will be at Ky.,

[msstate7]

Look I have been as in with Lebby as anyone. But if there is even a sliver of truth to the him trying to get the Ok State job rumors, we need to help him.

I can admit I was wrong and say we should have hired Jon Sumrall. We will not be able to this time.

lol, Lebby thinking ok state would want him is somehow perfect.

[BigDawg81]

I know that State doesn’t have the most talented roster but a 17 pt lead blown with 10 minutes left in the game? Lebby running up-tempo and snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock is absolutely coaching and poor clock management. I thought Shapen played well most of the game but Lebby shits the bed in back to back games.

[parabrave]

I know that State doesn’t have the most talented roster but a 17 pt lead blown with 10 minutes left in the game? Lebby running up-tempo and snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock is absolutely coaching and poor clock management. I thought Shapen played well most of the game but Lebby shits the bed in back to back games.

It was the same way when he was at Ole Miss.

[Todd4State]

Those bad coaching decisions sometimes look better with better players. Do we convert those 4th and 1's with Fluff for example? Maybe. Definitely have a better chance with him than Booth because he is a better player. Do better players make better decisions? In general probably yes.

The issue with MSU is for year and years MSU has always put almost everything at the feet of the coaches and almost always have the players a pass with the starting QB being the exception. That's understandable because pre-NIL MSU wasn't supposed to pay players. But now we can pay players.

Regardless of what happens with Lebby now or in the future MSU MUST begin to focus more and more on acquiring players with talent rather than hope that we can find some coach that can outscheme people and coach up diamonds in the rough.

[Todd4State]

I know that State doesn’t have the most talented roster but a 17 pt lead blown with 10 minutes left in the game? Lebby running up-tempo and snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock is absolutely coaching and poor clock management. I thought Shapen played well most of the game but Lebby shits the bed in back to back games.

To me a bigger issue is we tried to slow it down and couldn't gain a yard. Our players let us down big time in that regard. We had two quick three and outs and got out of rhythm.

[CaptainObvious]

Those bad coaching decisions sometimes look better with better players. Do we convert those 4th and 1's with Fluff for example? Maybe. Definitely have a better chance with him than Booth because he is a better player. Do better players make better decisions? In general probably yes.

The issue with MSU is for year and years MSU has always put almost everything at the feet of the coaches and almost always have the players a pass with the starting QB being the exception. That's understandable because pre-NIL MSU wasn't supposed to pay players. But now we can pay players.

Regardless of what happens with Lebby now or in the future MSU MUST begin to focus more and more on acquiring players with talent rather than hope that we can find some coach that can outscheme people and coach up diamonds in the rough.
I get what you are saying. But I'm pretty sure Trinidad Chambliss was a "Diamond in the Rough".

How do you think State would be doing with him as our starting QB with our receiving corps? Maybe no better with all the fat stiffs we hired for offensive linemen.

[Todd4State]

I get what you are saying. But I'm pretty sure Trinidad Chambliss was a "Diamond in the Rough".

How do you think State would be doing with him as our starting QB with our receiving corps? Maybe no better with all the fat stiffs we hired for offensive linemen.

I think the odds of any D2 QB working out are low in general.

I'll say this- Ole Miss would probably have the same record if they had our schedule.

[bulldawg28]

..

[Bothrops]

I think the odds of any D2 QB working out are low in general.

I'll say this- Ole Miss would probably have the same record if they had our schedule.

Ole Miss would be 7-1 with our schedule. They are so much better than us it's hard to grasp that reality. That D2 qb they have is the second best qb in the SEC.

[msstate7]

I'll say this- Ole Miss would probably have the same record if they had our schedule.

Boy, talk about denial.

[BrunswickDawg]

I get what you are saying. But I'm pretty sure Trinidad Chambliss was a "Diamond in the Rough".

How do you think State would be doing with him as our starting QB with our receiving corps? Maybe no better with all the fat stiffs we hired for offensive linemen.

I watched the DII Natty last year against Valdosta St. I said during the game "whoever gets this guy in the portal is going have a huge steal." I watched a lot of DII the past 4 years because my son went to Valdosta - there are some P5 players on some of the top teams. If we had signed him, our fans would have tarred and feathered Lebby.

[Todd4State]

Boy, talk about denial.

How did Kamario do last night running the ball? That's who you want to be our QB.

[1eyedog]

NOT that it matters, om is two fumbles late game away from two more loses, Dogs are two late game plays away from two more wins.....

[STATEBALLIN]

This aint 2015 anymore. You guys dont seem to understand that what we knew as college football doesnt exist anymore.

I wont get on Lebby's ass playing with a bottom paid of the SEC roster going against much higher paid rosters. You have 80 yard punt returns because you lack talent.

Lame Kitten has a $25MM roster and we have a $15 roster. Of course he is going to beat us. He has players and depth. We have some players and litte depth. We are Cleveland in the NFL. They are Buffalo

This is true.

[Tater]

The only person sucking anyone off is you with your boyfriend.

I can see that Lebby can coach. He?s 2 plays away from being coach of the year. Of course most of our fanbase is too stupid to see it. You are the ringleader and driver of the shortbus.

He's 1 play away from everyone pulling in the right direction and firing him - maybe before the Egg. Somehow that ASU game might be the worst play to happen to us. False hope. False belief.

We can't even beat the other teams when they choke it away.

[Saltydog]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows

Here's the bad thing, we gave away all
that money and still can't get a SEC win. Don't expect people to keep giving with the hope we'll win. The well may dry up all together.

[Brobi-wan]

I don’t really know who to blame at this point. I imagine if you fire Lebby you just end up 2-10 with some other dude. Who even cares at this point? Just let him have three years and fire him next.

[Todd4State]

Boy, talk about denial.

Look at our stats on the season and their stats. They're averaging 3-4 more PPG and have essentially the same defensive stats per us with an easier schedule. On paper and analytically we're the same team.

[Todd4State]

Here's the bad thing, we gave away all
that money and still can't get a SEC win. Don't expect people to keep giving with the hope we'll win. The well may dry up all together.

That's the opposite of what we should be doing if we want to get better. Our fans overvalue coaches and undervalue players.

Give more money, get better players, and get better results. It is what it is. Sabotaging the coach now only hurts the next coach we get if it doesn't work out.

[msstate7]

Look at our stats on the season and their stats. They're averaging 3-4 more PPG and have essentially the same defensive stats per us with an easier schedule. On paper and analytically we're the same team.

Conf games only...
Total offense:
OM 434.8
State 377.5

Total D:
OM 401.6
State 456.3

That's not a small difference

[Offshore Dawg]

I could actually handle losing games because of lack of talent. Losing games because of stupid coaching decisions and stupid acts by players on the field is tougher to stomach. Not sure money stops people from doing stupid things that get you beat.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ goes a long way !

[SPMT]

That's the opposite of what we should be doing if we want to get better. Our fans overvalue coaches and undervalue players.

Give more money, get better players, and get better results. It is what it is. Sabotaging the coach now only hurts the next coach we get if it doesn't work out.

I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.

Shapen played really well.

What?s dumb is having a head coach who is learning on the job. He's clearly just an O coordinator. He?s deep in the 4th quarter looking at his play sheet all the while we are losing momentum by the second.

By still being the O coordinator, he CANNOT grasp the situation unfolding in front of him.

[SPMT]

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ goes a long way !

Can?t emphasize enough.

[redstickdawg]

I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.

Shapen played really well.

What?s dumb is having a head coach who is learning on the job. He's clearly just an O coordinator. He?s deep in the 4th quarter looking at his play sheet all the while we are losing momentum by the second.

By still being the O coordinator, he CANNOT grasp the situation unfolding in front of him.

Lebby must have an OC next year, I think that this hits pretty close to some of the issues. He's too focused on calling the offense and not looking at the overall gameplan and strategy, he very may well be limited to being an OC, but he must get a dedicated OC next year.

[Coach34]

I don?t know. These $5mm players beat the $30mm players for over 45 minutes.

Exactly. We don’t have the depth to finish 60 mins because we can’t afford it

[SPMT]

Exactly. We don?t have the depth to finish 60 mins because we can?t afford it

Yeah. Thats what I think it leads to.

Nonetheless, Lebby is currently a terrible in game head coach. Maybe he figures it out.

[Santiago]

Before just saying "open the wallet", you need to factor the tax that will be paid to get players despite a coach and staff that is not managing games to win.

AD and alumni have to factor the price of the coach v. the extra NIL tax to get players despite losing.

[HRTFXR]

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[Dawgology]

All Lebby has to do is kick the field goal and we are 5-2. All he has to do is run the clock and get out of the hurry up offense while we are up 10 with 4 minutes left and we are 6-2. The issue I have is that these are very very very basic coaching strategies that win games more times than they lose. It is, frankly, indefensible for a head coach in the SEC to be making these dumbass decisions that cost us games. It’s all on coaching decisions. All of it.

[Coach34]

All Lebby has to do is kick the field goal and we are 5-2. .

We've missed a FG in all 3 of our close losses. It's not quite that simple

[Quaoarsking]

We've missed a FG in all 3 of our close losses. It's not quite that simple

Ultimately Lebby is responsible for the results of the program, and he is pissing away winnable games that an average coach would not, much less a good one.

[Coach34]

An average coach wouldnt have scored 38 last night with a QB like Shapen who we've been told by most here sux

[Quaoarsking]

An average coach wouldnt have scored 38 last night with a QB like Shapen who we've been told by most here sux

It doesn't really matter if Lebby has some strengths if his weaknesses still make us lose. There are plenty of G5/FCS head coaches who would have 6 or 7 wins right now with our budget.

[HoopsDawg]

Ultimately Lebby is responsible for the results of the program, and he is pissing away winnable games that an average coach would not, much less a good one.

An average coach wouldn?t have us competitive against this schedule. Wow, I hope you are just a troll and these aren?t real opinions.

[Quaoarsking]

An average coach wouldn?t have us competitive against this schedule. Wow, I hope you are just a troll and these aren?t real opinions.

Completely delusional. Our schedule hasn't even been that hard by SEC standards. Florida is trash. Texas is way overrated. Lots of other teams are competitive against them.

Just taking Texas to overtime isn't going to save Mark Stoops' job (a guy who has taken Kentucky to 8 bowl games), and it shouldn't save Lebby's either.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Baseball had enough this Spring and injected $15MM into the program to demand change. They got it

Football needs 3X that. Write your checks. Football needs $50MM. More money for the roster and depth. More staff.

We are funding at the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for. Our QB is lowest paid in the SEC. We have no OL depth. it shows

I logged in to say that hell has frozen over. I agree with C34! WOW!

The truth is our roster is not up to par and Lebby has them in games.

[Quaoarsking]

I logged in to say that hell has frozen over. I agree with C34! WOW!

The truth is our roster is not up to par and Lebby has them in games.

Our roster IS up to par though, at least so far in 2025. It's not like Lebby is doing some amazing coaching and getting us close when we have no business being close. Quite the opposite. Our players are getting leads and Lebby is pissing them away.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We didn't lose 3/4 sec games bc of talent. We lost them bc of coaching. Quit making excuses

LOL! No we didn't. Look. How many times did a DLman come through untouched last night? Our OL is horrible. There is a noticeable drop off from Fluff to Booth, and there is nobody really behind Booth.

I was reading and saw this point, and it's accurate.

Lane Kiffin made what we all consider to be horrible calls on the road vs OU. He went for it on 4th down on his own 25 and did not make it. Then they drive the field to the 2 yard line and he pulls his starting QB and puts in a cold qb to throw 2 incomplete, yet open passes and settled for a FG.

The difference. They have the talent, whether we like it or not, to overcome mistakes by coaching and players. Just like Texas does.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Clark Lea has alot more funding than we do. Their starting QB makes more than our QB room combined

Yep. He turned down 4 million to leave Vandy.

[Coursesuper]

LOL! No we didn't. Look. How many times did a DLman come through untouched last night? Our OL is horrible. There is a noticeable drop off from Fluff to Booth, and there is nobody really behind Booth.

I was reading and saw this point, and it's accurate.

Lane Kiffin made what we all consider to be horrible calls on the road vs OU. He went for it on 4th down on his own 25 and did not make it. Then they drive the field to the 2 yard line and he pulls his starting QB and puts in a cold qb to throw 2 incomplete, yet open passes and settled for a FG.

The difference. They have the talent, whether we like it or not, to overcome mistakes by coaching and players. Just like Texas does.

Yep, it aint rocket science.

[Coach34]

Our roster IS up to par though, at least so far in 2025. It's not like Lebby is doing some amazing coaching and getting us close when we have no business being close. Quite the opposite. Our players are getting leads and Lebby is pissing them away.

We scored the most points on Texas that anybody has so far this season. With a QB most of Elite says sux.

[Quaoarsking]

We scored the most points on Texas that anybody has so far this season. With a QB most of Elite says sux.

Good for Shapen. He played well yesterday. Too bad our head coach cost him the chance to get a conference win.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Our roster IS up to par though, at least so far in 2025. It's not like Lebby is doing some amazing coaching and getting us close when we have no business being close. Quite the opposite. Our players are getting leads and Lebby is pissing them away.


No it's not.

- Weakness in the DBs. Kelly is a beast. Maninng is a freak! Smith is not back to full speed. Then you have wide open guys on the other side of the field.
- Our LBs are not great. We allowed a pass behind the LOS to go for 60 plus yards because they are not SEC fast.
- There is a big drop off behind Fluff. Booth is not as good and behind Booth isn't much.
- Our DL was gassed in the 4th.
- Our OL is not up to par nor the depth needed. They, with the game on the line, failed to pick up blitz after blitz. Many times the defender untouched.

That OL gave up 7 sacks yesterday. 4 in the 4th/OT. Why can they suddenly not block? It showed in run blocking too. Go look up Booth's numbers.

What you are calling up to par is actually a system and coaching. We are doing more with less.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Good for Shapen. He played well yesterday. Too bad our head coach cost him the chance to get a conference win.

But he didn't. Name the play.

[Thick]

And that guy outplayed the highest paid QB in the SEC. And we have low iq fans wanting him benched for a true freshman. Sad.

This^^^^