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redstickdawg
10-19-2025, 12:38 PM
that is how low of an impact of beating us is to the rest of the league. We were the worst team in the league last year and while we have shown some improvement are still a long way from being anything but the bottom dweller. Lebby has 1 more year and then we need to clean house, in the age of NIL there is no excuse for the continued offensive incompetence that we display weekly, either get some help from the portal, HIRE competent coaches or forever be happy with o-fer in the SEC. We will be 0-8 in the SEC this year and unless major changes are made no better next year.

Anyone saying that we were one play or so away from winning needs to remember what Mora Sr, said coulda, woulda, shoulda it still aint winning and we need a staff that can identify talent and put them in a situation to win, we don't have that by any stretch of the imagination on the offensive side of the ball.

msstate7
10-19-2025, 12:41 PM
We celebrating keeping it close here, while they firing the winner.

Bdawg
10-19-2025, 12:50 PM
They said he was done Sunday no matter the result. He’s been there long to realize that he ain’t it. And they recruit well. Pretty simple.

confucius say
10-19-2025, 12:57 PM
It was posted on here in a thread 6 days ago that this was happening regardless of the result of our game because Florida bye week is upcoming.

On a related note, our fanbase has zero emotional intelligence or perspective.

NCDawg
10-19-2025, 12:58 PM
99% of coaches would know don't throw the ball when you're that close and time is running out. Just run the ball, use up the clock, and kick the field goal to win the game. Terrible decision by Lebby.

StarkVegasSteve
10-19-2025, 01:05 PM
99% of coaches would know don't throw the ball when you're that close and time is running out. Just run the ball, use up the clock, and kick the field goal to win the game. Terrible decision by Lebby.

He just overthought the situation. He was going for the kill shot and his QB screwed up. He should have told Blake that if your receiver is not wide ass open to throw it away. Then we could run it, center it, and spike it.

TrapGame
10-19-2025, 01:07 PM
Florida fans are livid that it was this close in The Swamp. To them it should have never been this close.

Billy is in year four, an experienced coach with a previous head coaching stint, and still can't getting going.

Lebby is in year two of being a head coach at any level and the jump between year one and two is already impressive.

I think James Franklin will be the new head coach at Florida.

ScooterDog
10-19-2025, 01:09 PM
Amen, NCDawg. Well said.

TrapGame
10-19-2025, 01:15 PM
99% of coaches would know don't throw the ball when you're that close and time is running out. Just run the ball, use up the clock, and kick the field goal to win the game. Terrible decision by Lebby.

Nope. Terrible decision by Blake.

He threw the ball to a ****ing kaiju wearing orange and blue.

basedog
10-19-2025, 01:19 PM
Napier was gone regardless of the outcome yesterday. Freeze could be next or maybe Stoops. Going to get interesting at Lsu also.

coachnorm
10-19-2025, 01:20 PM
He just overthought the situation. He was going for the kill shot and his QB screwed up. He should have told Blake that if your receiver is not wide ass open to throw it away. Then we could run it, center it, and spike it.

A kill shot is a pass into the end zone to a targeted receiver. The disaster play was a lame short toss in some scheme called by someone?

TrapGame
10-19-2025, 01:21 PM
Napier was gone regardless of the outcome yesterday. Freeze could be next or maybe Stoops. Going to get interesting at Lsu also.

LSU could lose two more games. 8-4 will get you fired at LSU.

BuckyIsAB****
10-19-2025, 01:23 PM
A kill shot is a pass into the end zone to a targeted receiver. The disaster play was a lame short toss in some scheme called by someone?

The head Coach called it and is responsible for it all the way. Just like he is responsible for running a QB out there that has cost us 2 games. If not for an absolute miracle against ASU this place would be screaming to fire him this morning. We are far enough into this to tell Lebby is prolly not the guy

TrapGame
10-19-2025, 01:29 PM
The head Coach called it and is responsible for it all the way. Just like he is responsible for running a QB out there that has cost us 2 games. If not for an absolute miracle against ASU this place would be screaming to fire him this morning. We are far enough into this to tell Lebby is prolly not the guy

That's why you play game. You know this. You're a ****ing coach.

How bout if Ferrie made the FG in the Tennessee game and Shapen didn't fumble on his sack, we win.

Or if Ferrie made the FG or Shapen hits on just ONE of those 3 overthrown TDs, we win.

Pinto
10-19-2025, 01:38 PM
That's why you play game. You know this. You're a ****ing coach.

How bout if Ferrie made the FG in the Tennessee game and Shapen didn't fumble on his sack, we win.

Or if Ferrie made the FG or Shapen hits on just ONE of those 3 overthrown TDs, we win.

Shapen should have handed the ball of in the UT game. Just like last night. Shapen is not a playmaker or game manager. Just and ok college QB.

redstickdawg
10-19-2025, 01:44 PM
Lebby is in year two of being a head coach at any level and the jump between year one and two is already impressive.


This quote says more about the suckitude of Arnett rather than the coaching ability (or lack thereof) of Lebby. We are definitely better than last year, but we still are the bottom dwellers and look to remain that way for at least another year.

Turfdawg67
10-19-2025, 01:53 PM
LSU could lose two more games. 8-4 will get you fired at LSU.

They fire coaches for 8-4, we want to build statues of them.

Turfdawg67
10-19-2025, 01:55 PM
Florida fans are livid that it was this close in The Swamp. To them it should have never been this close.

Billy is in year four, an experienced coach with a previous head coaching stint, and still can't getting going.

Lebby is in year two of being a head coach at any level and the jump between year one and two is already impressive.

I think James Franklin will be the new head coach at Florida.

I agree. Probably already have a verbal agreement

msstate7
10-19-2025, 01:57 PM
They fire coaches for 8-4, we want to build statues of them.

Hell, we erecting moral statues for close losses

Dawgface
10-19-2025, 02:05 PM
Hell, we erecting moral statues for close losses

Hail State!

parabrave
10-19-2025, 02:10 PM
A kill shot is a pass into the end zone to a targeted receiver. The disaster play was a lame short toss in some scheme called by someone?

This. If your going to pass it put it in the EZ. BTW where was our heralded TE all game???

archdog
10-19-2025, 02:33 PM
Florida fans better count their stars that Shapen overthrew 3 wide open TDs our they lose by 19 and maybe more.

confucius say
10-19-2025, 03:28 PM
99% of coaches would know don't throw the ball when you're that close and time is running out. Just run the ball, use up the clock, and kick the field goal to win the game. Terrible decision by Lebby.

I'm sure our kicker already missing one from shorter distance played into things.
He trusted his QB not to do something stupid more than he trusted his kicker from 47 yards. Backfired.

confucius say
10-19-2025, 03:30 PM
Florida fans better count their stars that Shapen overthrew 3 wide open TDs our they lose by 19 and maybe more.

True. Scheme is working. We just have to be more detailed and make the layups.

Coach34
10-19-2025, 03:35 PM
We celebrating keeping it close here, while they firing the winner.

We reported earlier this week he was going to be fired regardless of outcome due to the Bi week coming up. Jeez you guys are annoying. We were expected to go 0-8 in the SEC before the season began. Acting like what’s happening now is shocking is crazy to me

CaptainObvious
10-19-2025, 03:36 PM
True. Scheme is working. We just have to be more detailed and make the layups.

Schemes don?t work if you have a QB who cannot make the plays?. Like a Shap?n.

basedog
10-19-2025, 03:39 PM
We reported earlier this week he was going to be fired regardless of outcome due to the Bi week coming up. Jeez you guys are annoying. We were expected to go 0-8 in the SEC before the season began. Acting like what’s happening now is shocking is crazy to me

I’m with you 34. I don’t get it. I see improvement. We are closer than most understand.

EdwardDrayton
10-19-2025, 05:49 PM
99% of coaches would know don't throw the ball when you're that close and time is running out. Just run the ball, use up the clock, and kick the field goal to win the game. Terrible decision by Lebby.

That's true. And you don't expect a veteran QB to 17 it up so horrifically. Folks saying we would be 6-1 if not for Lebby are misguided. The average talent is responsible too.

msstate7
10-19-2025, 05:56 PM
We reported earlier this week he was going to be fired regardless of outcome due to the Bi week coming up. Jeez you guys are annoying. We were expected to go 0-8 in the SEC before the season began. Acting like what’s happening now is shocking is crazy to me

So since that was the expectation, you can't hold it against a coach for messing up a winnable game. Got it.

R2Dawg
10-19-2025, 06:32 PM
He just overthought the situation. He was going for the kill shot and his QB screwed up. He should have told Blake that if your receiver is not wide ass open to throw it away. Then we could run it, center it, and spike it.

WR was open but when you underthrow the ball 20 yards to a 300lb DL it doesn't really matter. Lebby got to coach better and Blake got to play better.

R2Dawg
10-19-2025, 06:37 PM
That's true. And you don't expect a veteran QB to 17 it up so horrifically. Folks saying we would be 6-1 if not for Lebby are misguided. The average talent is responsible too.

Yeah, Blake gave UT 2 TDs and UF the game so yeah some blame goes around. Lebby got to coach better. If you know your players you coach around their weaknesses. Lebby ain't. Shapen is a sack machine and we still set him up to fail.

I'll say it again, our average talent is two Ferry FG away from 6-1 or if Shapen don't give two games away. We are real close. Also the injuries are huge. I can't think of another team with more impactful injuries than us this year.

R2Dawg
10-19-2025, 06:38 PM
Florida fans better count their stars that Shapen overthrew 3 wide open TDs our they lose by 19 and maybe more.

Fact.

EdwardDrayton
10-19-2025, 06:40 PM
I’m with you 34. I don’t get it. I see improvement. We are closer than most understand.

Of course we see improvement. We were 17ing awful last year. But we are not competitive. We will see if we can move the line over the last five games.

Coach34
10-19-2025, 06:44 PM
Of course we see improvement. We were 17ing awful last year. But we are not competitive. We will see if we can move the line over the last five games.

We are extremely competitive. We have lost in OT and by 2 on the road.

Coach34
10-19-2025, 06:49 PM
So since that was the expectation, you can't hold it against a coach for messing up a winnable game. Got it.

I'm 100% fine with criticism. Calling for a coaching change tho is insane. When you fund the football program at the bottom of the SEC- you get bottom of the SEC results.

TTech was one of the biggest spenders in NIL and they are having a very good season. I see all this "you can rebuild your team in 1 season now with the portal". Well, thats true if you are spending money. If you dont spend the money, you arent rebuilding with what you need.

You want to win in football? Inject another $10MM per to the program. Write checks. Otherwise we will keep having to work our ass off to get to 6 wins

msstate7
10-19-2025, 06:56 PM
I'm 100% fine with criticism. Calling for a coaching change tho is insane. When you fund the football program at the bottom of the SEC- you get bottom of the SEC results.

TTech was one of the biggest spenders in NIL and they are having a very good season. I see all this "you can rebuild your team in 1 season now with the portal". Well, thats true if you are spending money. If you dont spend the money, you arent rebuilding with what you need.

You want to win in football? Inject another $10MM per to the program. Write checks. Otherwise we will keep having to work our ass off to get to 6 wins

I want a sec win, one. I wanna see Lebby pull it off, and if he goes 0 for 16, then hell yeah i want him gone. If demanding my coach has a 1-15 (.063) record after 2 seasons is unreasonable, then I don't wanna be reasonable

EdwardDrayton
10-19-2025, 07:31 PM
We are extremely competitive. We have lost in OT and by 2 on the road.

I guess that's one definition of competitive.

EdwardDrayton
10-19-2025, 07:32 PM
I'm 100% fine with criticism. Calling for a coaching change tho is insane. When you fund the football program at the bottom of the SEC- you get bottom of the SEC results.

TTech was one of the biggest spenders in NIL and they are having a very good season. I see all this "you can rebuild your team in 1 season now with the portal". Well, thats true if you are spending money. If you dont spend the money, you arent rebuilding with what you need.

You want to win in football? Inject another $10MM per to the program. Write checks. Otherwise we will keep having to work our ass off to get to 6 wins

Well, we're not doing a very good job getting great value with the current increased spending. That doesn't energize folks to double down.

BuckyIsAB****
10-19-2025, 07:54 PM
That's why you play game. You know this. You're a ****ing coach.

How bout if Ferrie made the FG in the Tennessee game and Shapen didn't fumble on his sack, we win.

Or if Ferrie made the FG or Shapen hits on just ONE of those 3 overthrown TDs, we win.

You just said what if Shapen like 5 times but he?s still the starting QB.

BuckyIsAB****
10-19-2025, 07:56 PM
We reported earlier this week he was going to be fired regardless of outcome due to the Bi week coming up. Jeez you guys are annoying. We were expected to go 0-8 in the SEC before the season began. Acting like what’s happening now is shocking is crazy to me
Idk who we is but no one with a brain stem expected or should tolerate 0-8 again. Shapen has looked like shit in every game, with rare moments except USM.

PGHBulldogBG
10-19-2025, 08:08 PM
A lot of our fans don?t understand that there are tons of coaches out there who don?t want to come to the SEC school with the least amount of football funding. Our NIL might be better than it was under Cohen, but we still are not on the same level as the majority of the other SEC teams. That was a dumb decision to call that play, but it?s not like it was a chip shot field goal. Ferrie already missed from 41 yards earlier in the game. I was never even a fan of the Lebby hire but even I am willing to let the season play out and see what happens. We are a lot better team than the last 2 years with a horrible schedule. Had we got UK and UF at home this year we probably win those or USCe. Regardless, he is not losing his job this year even if we go 4-8.

archdog
10-19-2025, 08:22 PM
Schemes don?t work if you have a QB who cannot make the plays?. Like a Shap?n.

Shapen will make the plays this week. We will win by 13 pts. Then we will beat Arkansas. UM will be a toss up.

Coach34
10-19-2025, 08:25 PM
Idk who we is but no one with a brain stem expected .

Vegas had us at 3.5 wins coming into the season
SEC beat writers predicted us to finish last
National beat writers predicted us to finish last

Nobody expected this team to be very good

confucius say
10-19-2025, 09:15 PM
LSU could lose two more games. 8-4 will get you fired at LSU.

I see 7-5

confucius say
10-19-2025, 09:18 PM
We reported earlier this week he was going to be fired regardless of outcome due to the Bi week coming up. Jeez you guys are annoying. We were expected to go 0-8 in the SEC before the season began. Acting like what’s happening now is shocking is crazy to me

Preach.

confucius say
10-19-2025, 09:21 PM
So since that was the expectation, you can't hold it against a coach for messing up a winnable game. Got it.

I don't think it is near as much on lebby as Shapen for missing two wide open WR, our kicker missing a 41 yard FG, our RB fumbling in the red zone.
Lebby makes mistakes, of course. But I really don't have a problem trying to make it a 37 yarder instead of a 47 yarder when my kicker already missed from 41.

DownwardDawg
10-19-2025, 09:33 PM
I see 7-5

Me too. They are losing 3 more.

msstate7
10-19-2025, 09:44 PM
I don't think it is near as much on lebby as Shapen for missing two wide open WR, our kicker missing a 41 yard FG, our RB fumbling in the red zone.
Lebby makes mistakes, of course. But I really don't have a problem trying to make it a 37 yarder instead of a 47 yarder when my kicker already missed from 41.

So, Shapen is responsible, but let's put the ball back in his hands in a crucial spot. And somehow it still remains on shapen.

Bdawg
10-19-2025, 10:17 PM
So, Shapen is responsible, but let's put the ball back in his hands in a crucial spot. And somehow it still remains on shapen.

It’s Lebby’s bad call and Shapen’s god awful execution. He was throwing to no one. Shapen is waaaay more to blame in this loss than Lebby. And quit saying Lebby keeps ‘putting Shapen back out there. Obviously, we don’t have a better option or, I would think, Lebby would start him. Our better option got bought from of us and went to AU, which goes back to our NIL.

DownwardDawg
10-19-2025, 10:22 PM
It’s Lebby’s bad call and Shapen’s god awful execution. He was throwing to no one. Shapen is waaaay more to blame in this loss than Lebby. And quit saying Lebby keeps ‘putting Shapen back out there. Obviously, we don’t have a better option or, I would think, Lebby would start him. Our better option got bought from of us and went to AU, which goes back to our NIL.

Regardless of our NIL, I hope we never pay players like Arnold $2 million. He sucks at Auburn.

Bdawg
10-19-2025, 10:26 PM
Regardless of our NIL, I hope we never pay players like Arnold $2 million. He sucks at Auburn.

Yes he does. I think he may have had a better fit with Lebby though and better than what lead foot Shapen is doing

DownwardDawg
10-19-2025, 10:35 PM
Yes he does. I think he may have had a better fit with Lebby though and better than what lead foot Shapen is doing

I'm not gonna argue that. Just can't overspend.

basedog
10-20-2025, 08:12 AM
I'm not gonna argue that. Just can't overspend.

There are Lots of players who are overpaid via the NIL, I'm talking about the blue-blood teams. One reason is they are all going after the top portals and bidding against each other. We just need to get the ones in the "3 and 4 star" rankings and fill our needs. Even if we had blue blood money we want be in most kids top list for the so call 5 stars, never have in the past.

StarkVegasSteve
10-20-2025, 08:46 AM
It?s Lebby?s bad call and Shapen?s god awful execution. He was throwing to no one. Shapen is waaaay more to blame in this loss than Lebby. And quit saying Lebby keeps ?putting Shapen back out there. Obviously, we don?t have a better option or, I would think, Lebby would start him. Our better option got bought from of us and went to AU, which goes back to our NIL.

So went back and watched the last drive, it was a good call. Lebby called an option route. Shapen made the right read, he just made it too quick and the receiver made the wrong choice. We wanted a quick hitter to the sideline and A) Rickey Johnson messed up the option route and B) It was a quick hitter. Shapen is taught to 1-2-throw out of those. 99% of the time that is the right call. We ran into the 1% where your receiver makes the wrong choice AND the DE drops. Should Shapen have seen him? Yes. He should've taken one second, seen the DE drop, tuck it and run, spike it, and bring out Ferrie.

Goldendawg
10-20-2025, 09:30 AM
So went back and watched the last drive, it was a good call. Lebby called an option route. Shapen made the right read, he just made it too quick and the receiver made the wrong choice. We wanted a quick hitter to the sideline and A) Rickey Johnson messed up the option route and B) It was a quick hitter. Shapen is taught to 1-2-throw out of those. 99% of the time that is the right call. We ran into the 1% where your receiver makes the wrong choice AND the DE drops. Should Shapen have seen him? Yes. He should've taken one second, seen the DE drop, tuck it and run, spike it, and bring out Ferrie.

And who put Johnson on the field at that critical junction in the game? How many catches does he have this year? Everyone in my family was shocked that we didn't run the ball and attempt a field goal. Make it or not, Ferry has the record for the longest made FG in our history and he didn't get the chance for the win. Horrible.

EdwardDrayton
10-20-2025, 06:34 PM
And who put Johnson on the field at that critical junction in the game? How many catches does he have this year? Everyone in my family was shocked that we didn't run the ball and attempt a field goal. Make it or not, Ferry has the record for the longest made FG in our history and he didn't get the chance for the win. . Horrible...

Bothrops
10-20-2025, 09:02 PM
We are the worst program in the P4. At least in perception.

Coach34
10-20-2025, 10:09 PM
We are the worst program in the P4. At least in perception.

Nope.

Nobody looks at us like Purdue/BC/Northwestern/etc

But we are looked at as the ass end of the SEC. And until we fund football like the rest of the conference- that will continue

Bothrops
10-20-2025, 11:43 PM
I?m with you 34. I don?t get it. I see improvement. We are closer than most understand.

Thats the whole thing to me. Id love to be "closer" but the reality is, we start all over next season. Right back where we were this year. We have no idea who's returning, if anyone. You can't build shit unless you've been winning and dont have to settle for pick overs. Fluff, Thompson and Evans were the exceptions.