Fire Lebby

[Cloak]

It's time.

[civildawg]

Screw him. Any booster or fan that's ok with this is a loser

[msugolf]

He?s toast. Time to move on

[NCMSTFAN]

He doesn't need to be fired but he makes HORRIBLE choices!!!! Why throw on that play??? He and Shapen lost that game for us

[msstate7]

It takes a truly horrible coach to lose that game, but he found a way. Get rid of him and Shapen before next week to save face

[FISHDAWG]

We just got out coached by another coach that's gonna get fired tomorrow

[Dawgology]

It takes a truly horrible coach to lose that game, but he found a way. Get rid of him and Shapen before next week to save face

This. You have to be next level idiotic to screw that up there at the end. That dude can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag. The last time I used that phrase was Croom

[Dawgface]

It's time.

I wish but won’t happen. We don’t have the leadership to do it.

[EdwardDrayton]

No. It's not time.

This will be a season end evaluation.

[parabrave]

He is the modern version of Charlie Shira. Let's hope we don't keep him for 5 years.

[Turfdawg67]

Sure. Let's just change coaches every one-two years. Eventually we'll strike gold. And then they'll leave us for Maryland.

[Quaoarsking]

Sure. Let's just change coaches every one-two years. Eventually we'll strike gold. And then they'll leave us for Maryland.

It's better to do that than stick with a guy we know sucks.

If we are 0-8 at the end of November, we are idiots and not serious about football if we bring up back to see if he gets to 0-25 or not.

[msstate7]

It's better to do that than stick with a guy we know sucks.

If we are 0-8 at the end of November, we are idiots and not serious about football if we bring up back to see if he gets to 0-25 or not.

But we were close to winning!

[Activated Alpha]

Devils advocate here, but once auburn fires Freeze and LSU fires Kelly who would we be getting?

[Quaoarsking]

Devils advocate here, but once auburn fires Freeze and LSU fires Kelly who would we be getting?

Jason Candle, Jon Sumrall, Jimmy Rogers, etc. There are plenty of guys who there who have been successful head coaches at the sub-P4 level who won't be on the radars of the big boys.

[Pinto]

Devils advocate here, but once auburn fires Freeze and LSU fires Kelly who would we be getting?

Lane Kiffin

[msstate7]

Jason Candle, Jon Sumrall, Jimmy Rogers, etc. There are plenty of guys who there who have been successful head coaches at the sub-P4 level who won't be on the radars of the big boys.

We have a 0.0 winning % with Lebby in sec play, so there's literally infinite options that were better

[Turfdawg67]

It's better to do that than stick with a guy we know sucks.

If we are 0-8 at the end of November, we are idiots and not serious about football if we bring up back to see if he gets to 0-25 or not.

Well maybe if we didn't play a top 10 SOS for both his years we'd have a more positive view? If he was 4-8 and 6-6 with SEC victories over KY, SC and AU/OM, would we feel differently? This loss was BAD, extremely... and may be too hard to come back from though.

[Turfdawg67]

We have a 0.0 winning % with Lebby in sec play, so there's literally infinite options that were better

Looks like you broke the seal on another Zima. Feel sorry for your family tomorrow.

[Quaoarsking]

Well maybe if we didn't play a top 10 SOS for both his years we'd have a more positive view? If he was 4-8 and 6-6 with SEC victories over KY, SC and AU/OM, would we feel differently? This loss was BAD, extremely... and may be too hard to come back from though.

Would I feel differently if he had some SEC wins over Kentucky, South Carolina, and Auburn? Yes. But we would have lost to all 3 of them last year and who knows if Lebby would outcoached himself into losing to any of them this year.

[msstate7]

Would I feel differently if he had some SEC wins over Kentucky, South Carolina, and Auburn? Yes. But we would have lost to all 3 of them last year and who knows if Lebby would outcoached himself into losing to any of them this year.

You're trying to reason with the dumbest person on this board.

[Cloak]

Looks like you broke the seal on another Zima. Feel sorry for your family tomorrow.

Horrible. Stop.

[Coursesuper]

Looks like you broke the seal on another Zima. Feel sorry for your family tomorrow.

It?s at least a claw.

[Turfdawg67]

Horrible. Stop.

How is that horrible?? The fact that MS7 drinks Zimas or that his Zima induced hangover will make him an irritating member of the family until 4pm tomorrow. Uh oh, do the Saints play tomorrow?!?!

[Coursesuper]

How?? The fact that MS7 drinks Zimas or that his Zima induced hangover will make him an irritating member of the family until 4pm tomorrow. Uh oh, do the Saints play tomorrow?!?!

Well done.

[Cloak]

Bump

[Charlie_Sheen420]

I am mad as hell. Let me on this bandwagon for the time being. If we go 0-16, you really can?t defend it.

[TrapGame]

I am mad as hell. Let me on this bandwagon for the time being. If we go 0-16, you really can?t defend it.

We are not an attractive job right now. Like I posted earlier if we fire Lebby this year we would be lucky to get Jimbo or Eddie O to take the job.

[schddog72]

He doesn't need to be fired but he makes HORRIBLE choices!!!! Why throw on that play??? He and Shapen lost that game for us

One lousy play - roughing the passer by #6 on defense cost us this game. A totally unnecessary penalty and soooooooo costly!!

[EdwardDrayton]

One lousy play - roughing the passer by #6 on defense cost us this game. A totally unnecessary penalty and soooooooo costly!!

It's never just one play or one player. To characterize it as such is grossly unfair.

[Offshore Dawg]

One lousy play - roughing the passer by #6 on defense cost us this game. A totally unnecessary penalty and soooooooo costly!!

This is very true

[Charlie_Sheen420]

It's never just one play or one player. To characterize it as such is grossly unfair.
That play literally changed the tide of the game so yeah that ONE play was pretty big. It flipped the game

[DownwardDawg]

Well maybe if we didn't play a top 10 SOS for both his years we'd have a more positive view? If he was 4-8 and 6-6 with SEC victories over KY, SC and AU/OM, would we feel differently? This loss was BAD, extremely... and may be too hard to come back from though.

Coupled with last week, I think he's done. The team quit in the 4th quarter and OT.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I am out. We will not fire him but he will get nothing in NIL this offseason so we will suck next year and then fire him. We will have to hire another project because no coach will take this job. Lebby was given nothing but you still cannot go 0-16 in SEC play.

[Santiago]

One lousy play - roughing the passer by #6 on defense cost us this game. A totally unnecessary penalty and soooooooo costly!!

how about other plays... diving at legs on field goal gave UT 4 more points. Getting a FG blocked for missing the inside gap to block. Punting the ball to one of the best return men in the country with under 2 minutes to play. Long list here.

[Santiago]

I am out. We will not fire him but he will get nothing in NIL this offseason so we will suck next year and then fire him. We will have to hire another project because no coach will take this job. Lebby was given nothing but you still cannot go 0-16 in SEC play.

Says alot when you are posting checking out. Saying that respectfully.
Lebby kept making OC decisions instead of HC decisions tonight.

Joe Judge baby!! ***

[StarkVegasSteve]

Says alot when you are posting checking out. Saying that respectfully.
Lebby kept making OC decisions instead of HC decisions tonight.

Joe Judge baby!! ***

I do not know how to just casually watch and not care so I am done tbh. Tonight did it for me. Lebby does not know how to manage a game and close it out.

[DownwardDawg]

I do not know how to just casually watch and not care so I am done tbh. Tonight did it for me. Lebby does not know how to manage a game and close it out.

This is me. I bought in again this year. I let myself get excited about football. It ain't happening again. I'm the last of my entire family that watches.

[Bothrops]

It's time.

And hire who? Nick Saban out of retirement to come here and make a bowl in year 3?

[Santiago]

I bought season tickets this year to be sure and do my part, and show up.
Not sure how we end 2 games in a row where we do not even give the kicker a chance

[msstate7]

And hire who? Nick Saban out of retirement to come here and make a bowl in year 3?

We're 0-12 under Lebby. We literally can't do worse

[Santiago]

Listening to Matt Wyatt during some of the game. He was like us on confused on some of the go for its inside our own 40, when TX was lifeless.

[msstate7]

Listening to Matt Wyatt during some of the game. He was like us on confused on some of the go for its inside our own 40, when TX was lifeless.

Hoops says you dumb for thinking Lebby isn't a genius

[Bothrops]

Devils advocate here, but once auburn fires Freeze and LSU fires Kelly who would we be getting?

We aren't getting anyone. Our options are, lose with Lebby, or lose without him. It's that simple.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We aren't getting anyone. Our options are, lose with Lebby, or lose without him. It's that simple.

Real devils advocate, the minute LSU cans Kelly, call him. He may not fit the Cajuns but we do not give a 17 about fit. Just win.

[Cowbell]

Real devils advocate, the minute LSU cans Kelly, call him. He may not fit the Cajuns but we do not give a 17 about fit. Just win.

I would call Dan way before Kelly - that guy don't fit in here no more than he fit in BR

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would call Dan way before Kelly - that guy don't fit in here no more than he fit in BR

Dan is obviously the first call, if he will take it. That is what some are not understanding. Dan is not all that keen on coming back here because he does have good memories. He does not want it to go badly.

[Coursesuper]

Dan is obviously the first call, if he will take it. That is what some are not understanding. Dan is not all that keen on coming back here because he does have good memories. He does not want it to go badly.

I wouldn?t touch us with a 50ft pole. We refuse to fill up the stadium. We barely support the program compared to our league. Our facilities are the worst in the conference. Our NIL is just no where near it needs to be, we are a stepping stone for talent. It?s a hard sell for anyone.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I wouldn?t touch us with a 50ft pole. We refuse to fill up the stadium. We barely support the program compared to our league. Our facilities are the worst in the conference. Our NIL is just no where near it needs to be, we are a stepping stone for talent. It?s a hard sell for anyone.

It is because 30% of our fanbase only cares about a non revenue sport. Which hey, that is fine. Spend your money on what you want to spend it on but we are wanting $5 results with .50 cent investment.

[Santiago]

When did our attendance take the significant dive? Moorhead ?
The Florida MSU game his first year I thought we had good attendance.
Or was it Covid that once many found other things to do just did not come back.

[Coursesuper]

It is because 30% of our fanbase only cares about a non revenue sport. Which hey, that is fine. Spend your money on what you want to spend it on but we are wanting $5 results with .50 cent investment.

You just laid out the Missippy Tate way of thinking perfectly. Well done.

[redstickdawg]

Real devils advocate, the minute LSU cans Kelly, call him. He may not fit the Cajuns but we do not give a 17 about fit. Just win.

no f'ing way that I call Kelly and no one with a brain would either. LSU screwed the pooch hiring him, he was getting ready to retire from ND when LSU offered more money than he could imagine. Kelly will be gone before then end of the year and return up north where he fits in

[Santiago]

The SEC is also showing that even the teams with lots of talent will struggle 8-9 SEC weekends to bring their A game and emotion. We let TX into this game late with emotion when we had them down.
I get NIL and it matters, but every year there will be games for the taking, where our guys are just up , and jump on a team before they can get going.
I think the 9 game schedule will make it even more that way.

[CaptainObvious]

State ain?t winning crap in the SEC without at least an SEC level coach and an SEC level offensive line. So we need to ?hire? both or get out of the SEC and play at the level of our coaching hires and offensive line recruitment.

[parabrave]

Real devils advocate, the minute LSU cans Kelly, call him. He may not fit the Cajuns but we do not give a 17 about fit. Just win.

GHell no. Call Fritz before LSU Does.

[ScoobaDawg]

Lebby will lead us.

We are on the way.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lebby will lead us.

We are on the way.

I just fear where he is leading us. I am all for patience when exactly no one else is in this day and age of college football but we have to start winning. Progress and getting better has to yield results and right now it is not. I like Jeff and I think he is a great guy and an elite OC. But at some point you have to be the HC. Right now he is operating as an HC like an OC.

[CaptainObvious]

Lebby will lead us.


We are on the way.


Yep. With Lebby at the helm, State is on the way to 4-8 and another 0-8 SEC slate while watching our arch rivals not only qualify for the playoffs but likely be a top 6 seed on OUR damn Football Field in front of about 25,000 Rebel fans!

And because our admin is so damn cheap, instead of going out and paying a guy similar to Kiffin $8-9 million, we will give Lebby an extension and a raise to $5 million and go 3-9(0-9) next year to set the SEC record for consecutive losses and consecutive years without an SEC win!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep. With Lebby at the helm, State is on the way to 4-8 and another 0-8 SEC slate while watching our arch rivals not only qualify for the playoffs but likely be a top 6 seed on OUR damn Football Field in front of about 25,000 Rebel fans!

And because our admin is so damn cheap, instead of going out and paying a guy similar to Kiffin $8-9 million, we will give Lebby an extension and a raise to $5 million and go 3-9(0-9) next year to set the SEC record for consecutive losses and consecutive years without an SEC win!

You will not get a guy similar to Kiffin. So you can put that thought to bed. If we offered 8-9 mil we would get someone in the neighborhood of Shane Beamer. You want someone in the neighborhood of a Kiffin, Drinwitz, etc. it will be a MINIMUM of 12-13. So staff included that is a 20 mil a year buy in with a fan base that has a way larger than it needs to be percentage of people that care more about what food is on the grill during a fall ball scrimmage at Dudy Noble than getting an elite QB out of the portal or getting 2 stud DTs

[msstate7]

You will not get a guy similar to Kiffin. So you can put that thought to bed. If we offered 8-9 mil we would get someone in the neighborhood of Shane Beamer. You want someone in the neighborhood of a Kiffin, Drinwitz, etc. it will be a MINIMUM of 12-13. So staff included that is a 20 mil a year buy in with a fan base that has a way larger than it needs to be percentage of people that care more about what food is on the grill during a fall ball scrimmage at Dudy Noble than getting an elite QB out of the portal or getting 2 stud DTs

Kiffin was just a successful HC at FaU when they got him. We need to get successful HC at a smaller school. Mullen was nice and all, but we're 0-3 on the hiring successful cood since

[Cowbell]

I wouldn?t touch us with a 50ft pole. We refuse to fill up the stadium. We barely support the program compared to our league. Our facilities are the worst in the conference. Our NIL is just no where near it needs to be, we are a stepping stone for talent. It?s a hard sell for anyone.

We beat Tennessee and the stadium would stay full. Winning cures

[Cowbell]

Dan is obviously the first call, if he will take it. That is what some are not understanding. Dan is not all that keen on coming back here because he does have good memories. He does not want it to go badly.

He would be back here tomorrow

[Coursesuper]

We beat Tennessee and the stadium would stay full. Winning cures

We were 4-0 then and it wasn?t even close to full. Our people stay away in droves.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We were 4-0 then and it wasn?t even close to full. Our people stay away in droves.

That is one of the main reasons that we are not a more successful program. Don?t get me wrong we have some great fans, but not nearly the number the other SEC schools have outside Vandy. We don?t have a large enough alumni base that cares much about football. A lot of this can be contributed to the fact we have never been good in football for extended periods of time. Also, our school draws more the outdoorsman type student who prefer those type of activities besides going to a football game. We have proven with Mullen we can fill a stadium and be just as great as other fanbases when we have exceptionally good years like 2010 and 2014 and 2017 and the fan base is pulling in the same direction. That has not been the case since Mullen left because our ADs keep making mistake after mistake with their football coaching hires.

[parabrave]

Lebby will lead us.

We are on the way.

Scoob you forgot these ****

[Coursesuper]

That is one of the main reasons that we are not a more successful program. Don?t get me wrong we have some great fans, but not nearly the number the other SEC schools have outside Vandy. We don?t have a large enough alumni base that cares much about football. A lot of this can be contributed to the fact we have never been good in football for extended periods of time. Also, our school draws more the outdoorsman type student who prefer those type of activities besides going to a football game. We have proven with Mullen we can fill a stadium and be just as great as other fanbases when we have exceptionally good years like 2010 and 2014 and 2017 and the fan base is pulling in the same direction. That has not been the case since Mullen left because our ADs keep making mistake after mistake with their football coaching hires.

AD, singular, that?s the one that landed us in this recurring shit show.

[FISHDAWG]

I just fear where he is leading us. I am all for patience when exactly no one else is in this day and age of college football but we have to start winning. Progress and getting better has to yield results and right now it is not. I like Jeff and I think he is a great guy and an elite OC. But at some point you have to be the HC. Right now he is operating as an HC like an OC.

There is no way you can deny enormous progress has been made this season. I feel your frustration over dumb decisions but we are light years ahead of last year... the problem is it's not always measured in wins. We have been competitive in every game except 1 ... Lebby will learn and improve just the same as how he has improved this team in only one year. Pour another and contemplate this as I know you to be a very rational poster.... And again, I understand but tomorrow when emotions subside and objective reasoning sets in I'm sure as a MSU fan you will reboot as we have done time and again.... Here's to expecting next year to change this perspective that is so hard to deal with. I know you have been a patient supporter and a voice of reason so don't give up on the optimistic bunch of us now lol

[Quaoarsking]

There is no way you can deny enormous progress has been made this season. I feel your frustration over dumb decisions but we are light years ahead of last year... the problem is it's not always measured in wins. We have been competitive in every game except 1 ... Lebby will learn and improve just the same as how he has improved this team in only one year. Pour another and contemplate this as I know you to be a very rational poster.... And again, I understand but tomorrow when emotions subside and objective reasoning sets in I'm sure as a MSU fan you will reboot as we have done time and again.... Here's to expecting next year to change this perspective.

Stop comparing him to 2024 when he was the coach!

If you want to argue that he's better than Arnett in 2023, you can do that, but it's not vast improvement.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If Dan Mullen is remotely halfway partly interested you call him right now

[Quaoarsking]

If Dan Mullen is remotely halfway partly interested you call him right now

You 100% have to reach out and see. Can you imagine KT in the Mullen offense, with a roster built by NIL rather than Mullen's recruiting skills?

[FISHDAWG]

Stop comparing him to 2024 when he was the coach!

If you want to argue that he's better than Arnett in 2023, you can do that, but it's not vast improvement.

If you can't see the difference he's made then you're just not paying attention....we were in the abyss last year and now we're competitive

[Quaoarsking]

If you can't see the difference he's made then you're just not paying attention....we were in the abyss last year and now we're competitive

That statement isn't false, I just don't think he should get much credit for improving on his own bad performance.

Like imagine if you were complete dogѕhit at work for the next week, and then the following week were kinda bad but "improved" -- do you think your boss would give you credit for the improvement when the bar should have never been so low in the first place?

I know that Lebby walked into a tough situation, but it wasn't "get humiliated at home by the 6th best team in MAC" bad.

[cheewgumm]

There are times I feel this way , but the reality is our team is 100X better than last year:

Lebby has to get credit for that.

[Quaoarsking]

There are times I feel this way , but the reality is our team is 100X better than last year:

Lebby has to get credit for that.

No, he doesn't have to get credit for getting out of a hole he helped dig. We were probably destined to be bad last year no matter what, but most coaches wouldn't have gotten blown out by Toledo.

If you want to give him credit for improving on Arnett's 2023 season, that's fair.

[FISHDAWG]

That statement isn't false, I just don't think he should get much credit for improving on his own bad performance.

Like imagine if you were complete dogѕhit at work for the next week, and then the following week were kinda bad but "improved" -- do you think your boss would give you credit for the improvement when the bar should have never been so low in the first place?

I know that Lebby walked into a tough situation, but it wasn't "get humiliated at home by the 6th best team in MAC" bad.

Ok I get it but don't forget that replacing last years team IS a big part of that performance that you speak of

[Quaoarsking]

Key question - is Lebby doing something to personally shakedown the NIL donors that other coaches wouldn't do?

Assuming the answer is no, then I don't give Lebby much credit for improving our roster, since it's all about money nowadays. If Brent Vigen or someone else were our head coach, they would presumably have the same access to NIL funds to bring in players they want.

[cheewgumm]

Progress

It is undeniable

Texas toyed with us last year.
This year we should have won.