Coach Drinkwitz

[TrapGame]

Heard this morning on sports radio he is rumored to have thrown his hat into the Penn State ring.

If this has legs it could get interesting about the time we play them.

[Coach34]

lots of coaches will want it. Big Ten is partnering with an investment firm to infuse cash into the conference. They have turned into a progressive bunch the last 5 years or so

[msstate7]

To get the job, he has to win. More likely he runs it up on us than the team lays down

[TrapGame]

To get the job, he has to win. More likely he runs it up on us than the team lays down

What he has already done at Mizzou is more than enough. If he is the front runner by the time of our game he will be more concerned about recruiting and portal prospects for Penn State and buying a house in Happy Valley than running up the score on us.

[Tripp McNeely]

Have yall watched them play this year? Bama is the only team with a pulse that they've played. They'll be lucky to beat us...I don't see them having any chance at "running it up" on us

[msstate7]

Have yall watched them play this year? Bama is the only team with a pulse that they've played. They'll be lucky to beat us...I don't see them having any chance at "running it up" on us

We've played one sec road game this season and lost by 23. You guys seem to trick yourselves into thinking we're good before every game. We're a 9.5 pt dog facing a lame duck coach this week. Missouri is much better than Florida

ETA... they faced someone on our level already, South Carolina. And while the final score was only 9 pts different, they physically dominated that game...

Total yards - 456 to 293, mizzou
Rushing yards - 285 to -9, Mizzou

They're #1 in the sec (6th nationally) in rushing, and we're 15th in the sec (101st nationally) in rush defense. This is as bad a matchup for us as you can come up with. It's gonna be demoralizing how they run over us

[PGHBulldogBG]

I would think the majority of mid level program coaches would show interest in Penn State. It is one of the 5 best jobs in the Big 10. Also, the investment firm the BIG10 is partnering with is another motivating factor. Drinkowitz runs a really good offense and Penn State fans are tired of not having an OL or enough offensive creativity to beat OSU, Michigan and Oregon. I could see this possibly being a good fit for all parties.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We've played one sec road game this season and lost by 23. You guys seem to trick yourselves into thinking we're good before every game. We're a 9.5 pt dog facing a lame duck coach this week. Missouri is much better than Florida

Exactly. We are MILES better than last year but miles better still means we are a bottom half team in the league. It means we now can compete with the top half and pick off some wins against the bottom half but we still have a good ways to go. Mizzou is a top half of the league team. They have an incredible rushing attack and are pretty balanced. People are unfairly judging them on the game against Bama because they are still holding FSU against Bama.

Mizzou will be a 2 TD favorite over us. If you asked me right now, it is 31-10 Mizzou. Outside of the UGA game last year, we have scored 5 TDs in our other 4 road conference games in the Lebby era. We have to show we can be competent on offense in road games before I will ever pick us to win a road conference game.

[Coach34]

Yeah, Mizzou looks alot better than us right now. We're staring 0-8 in the SEC again straight in the face. Could we grab a couple- like this one Sat? Sure. But we are just as likely to go winless again

[Turfdawg67]

We've played one sec road game this season and lost by 23. You guys seem to trick yourselves into thinking we're good before every game. We're a 9.5 pt dog facing a lame duck coach this week. Missouri is much better than Florida


Nothing quite like that MSU optimism...

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah, Mizzou looks alot better than us right now. We're staring 0-8 in the SEC again straight in the face. Could we grab a couple- like this one Sat? Sure. But we are just as likely to go winless again

Right now I feel like we're the streaky 3 point shooter that needs to see one fall. If we get one Saturday, I could see us getting 3 this year. But I need to see one before I'll say we're getting any of the remaining.

[Santiago]

Drink may get an offer from "Flarda" also

[TrapGame]

Drink may get an offer from "Flarda" also

Only if Kiffin tells them no.

[Maverick91]

We've played one sec road game this season and lost by 23. You guys seem to trick yourselves into thinking we're good before every game. We're a 9.5 pt dog facing a lame duck coach this week. Missouri is much better than Florida

ETA... they faced someone on our level already, South Carolina. And while the final score was only 9 pts different, they physically dominated that game...

Total yards - 456 to 293, mizzou
Rushing yards - 285 to -9, Mizzou

They're #1 in the sec (6th nationally) in rushing, and we're 15th in the sec (101st nationally) in rush defense. This is as bad a matchup for us as you can come up with. It's gonna be demoralizing how they run over us

Is there anything that would make you think we are a good team?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Only if Kiffin tells them no.

He's probably going to tell them no. He has no reason to go there. OM can pay whatever FL can and he has unlimited autonomy at OM that he would not have at Florida. Also, he's shown he can win in Oxford just as easily as he could in Gainesville. NIL and the portal changed the game. You don't have to be at a traditional power or a traditional fertile recruiting ground. Transfers want to come play for programs that they can put up numbers and Lane has shown players can come there and do exactly that.

It's not like he has to go to Florida to work with DJ Lagway. He can just get him out of the portal. Hell he could get Florida's best players and bring them to Oxford.

[TrapGame]

He's probably going to tell them no. He has no reason to go there. OM can pay whatever FL can and he has unlimited autonomy at OM that he would not have at Florida. Also, he's shown he can win in Oxford just as easily as he could in Gainesville. NIL and the portal changed the game. You don't have to be at a traditional power or a traditional fertile recruiting ground. Transfers want to come play for programs that they can put up numbers and Lane has shown players can come there and do exactly that.

It's not like he has to go to Florida to work with DJ Lagway. He can just get him out of the portal. Hell he could get Florida's best players and bring them to Oxford.

LOL!

Can nobody on this board play along?

Absolutely no one on NAFOOM or Spirit would be defending one of our coaches no matter how much it was the truth. Remember they have Not A Fan sending Lebby to every open job right now bc he just hates Starkville and knows this program is nothing but crap. No one on their boards is giving Lebby any props for what he has done in year two.

I say Kiffin is going to Florida bc it makes them squirm like jilted little school girls. It makes them wait with bated breath bc this could be the rumor that happens to be true.

Everyone should be telling any ole miss fan they know - Well you know Lane is probably going Florida - just to watch that look they get when they realize it could be true.

**** them.

[viverlibre]

Drink would be good. If they land anyone other than Rhule, Cig or Drink, boosters will likely be upset. Kiffen ain't leaving Oxford until his kid finishes HS.

[msstate7]

Is there anything that would make you think we are a good team?

A good start would be winning a sec game. We've lost 14 straight sec games and 1 of our last 18 sec games. Why would I think we're a good sec team?

[msstate7]

Drink would be good. If they land anyone other than Rhule, Cig or Drink, boosters will likely be upset. Kiffen ain't leaving Oxford until his kid finishes HS.

Never say never. If lsu opens up, he would absolutely leave imo

[viverlibre]

Never say never. If lsu opens up, he would absolutely leave imo

LSU maybe, but BR is a huge shithole - it's trying to become Jxn.

TOSU and UGA certainly.

[LC Dawg]

We've played one sec road game this season and lost by 23. You guys seem to trick yourselves into thinking we're good before every game. We're a 9.5 pt dog facing a lame duck coach this week. Missouri is much better than Florida

ETA... they faced someone on our level already, South Carolina. And while the final score was only 9 pts different, they physically dominated that game...

Total yards - 456 to 293, mizzou
Rushing yards - 285 to -9, Mizzou

They're #1 in the sec (6th nationally) in rushing, and we're 15th in the sec (101st nationally) in rush defense. This is as bad a matchup for us as you can come up with. It's gonna be demoralizing how they run over us

And they have a RB from Mississippi who will have a little extra playing us.

[Tripp McNeely]

He's probably going to tell them no. He has no reason to go there. OM can pay whatever FL can and he has unlimited autonomy at OM that he would not have at Florida. Also, he's shown he can win in Oxford just as easily as he could in Gainesville. NIL and the portal changed the game. You don't have to be at a traditional power or a traditional fertile recruiting ground. Transfers want to come play for programs that they can put up numbers and Lane has shown players can come there and do exactly that.

It's not like he has to go to Florida to work with DJ Lagway. He can just get him out of the portal. Hell he could get Florida's best players and bring them to Oxford.

I would ask this...name one advantage om has over Florida that makes it easier to win in oxford vs Gainesville...i literally cannot think of one...I think potential coaches factor stuff like that in more than you'd think

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would ask this...name one advantage om has over Florida that makes it easier to win in oxford vs Gainesville...i literally cannot think of one...I think potential coaches factor stuff like that in more than you'd think

But name one advantage Florida has over OM? In this new era there is not one.

[msstate7]

But name one advantage Florida has over OM? In this new era there is not one.

Bigger fanbase. A bought in FL fanbase would dwarf OM in NIL. Now a sleeping FL fanbase like now won't, but much more potential there.

[Tripp McNeely]

But name one advantage Florida has over OM? In this new era there is not one.

More money (meaning better NIL deals) first and foremost
Bigger school (more boosters) - more NIL
Better history
Bigger stadium
Bigger town
Better recruiting base

...I could go on

[Activated Alpha]

More money (meaning better NIL deals) first and foremost
Bigger school (more boosters) - more NIL
Better history
Bigger stadium
Bigger town
Better recruiting base

...I could go on

But no Grove
and most importantly, no gas station chicken sticks.....

[viverlibre]

I would ask this...name one advantage om has over Florida that makes it easier to win in oxford vs Gainesville...i literally cannot think of one...I think potential coaches factor stuff like that in more than you'd think

He's got it made in Oxford, plus his son is a 10th grader in HS there. In Oxford, everyone is pulling in the same direction and bought in. At OM he can put up 8-4s the next three seasons and still have a job. Plus in Oxford, he's bigger than the program, that's likely important to an egomaniac like him.

UF, firing coaches so quickly, has likely lessened their appeal.

[Todd4State]

But name one advantage Florida has over OM? In this new era there is not one.

Easy. It's much easier to make the playoffs at Florida. Ole Miss you almost have to be perfect because of the weak schedule. Florida- not to much.

Plus if he wants to send his kid to IMG or somewhere like that it benefits his son more than playing at Oxford HS.

Personally, I don't think Ole Miss could get into a bidding war with Ole Miss without it starting to effect their NIL.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Easy. It's much easier to make the playoffs at Florida. Ole Miss you almost have to be perfect because of the weak schedule. Florida- not to much.

Plus if he wants to send his kid to IMG or somewhere like that it benefits his son more than playing at Oxford HS.

Personally, I don't think Ole Miss could get into a bidding war with Ole Miss without it starting to effect their NIL.

They can get into a bidding war, win it, and it will not affect one damn thing. Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, Jerry Hollingsworth, John Black, and Bill Jordan will go as high as Keith needs them to go. They are 100% bought in for Kiffin. They will find the money. Florida is not that bought in.

Also, how is it much easier to make it at Florida? I mean if it was so easy to win at Florida, why did Ron Zook fail? Why did Will Muschamp fail? Why did Jim McElwain fail? Why did Dan Mullen ultimately fail? Why did Napier fail? It is not easier to win there. Their boosters are batshit crazy and think it is still 1996 and they are the only team that runs a spread offense.

Both schools are in the SEC and there are no divisions. Some of you are still operating like this is 2005. HS recruiting does not really matter, paying players is completely legal, and OM is a hell of a lot more consistent than Florida has been in the last 15 years. Outside of the Mullen years, Florida has been two steps below mediocre. Hell outside of those 3 years you could argue Florida is a bottom 3rd team in the SEC in the last 15 years. That is just not as attractive a job as it was 15 years ago, especially in the NIL era.

[Tripp McNeely]

But no Grove
and most importantly, no gas station chicken sticks.....


He's got it made in Oxford, plus his son is a 10th grader in HS there. In Oxford, everyone is pulling in the same direction and bought in. At OM he can put up 8-4s the next three seasons and still have a job. Plus in Oxford, he's bigger than the program, that's likely important to an egomaniac like him.

UF, firing coaches so quickly, has likely lessened their appeal.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the pressures of the job...is there ANYTHING about om that makes it easier to win there vs UF...the answer is there's not! These coaches don't look at things the way we think they do. Job security is usually less of a factor than you think it is. Ability to win big is a lot bigger factor

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the pressures of the job...is there ANYTHING about om that makes it easier to win there vs UF...the answer is there's not! These coaches don't look at things the way we think they do. Job security is usually less of a factor than you think it is. Ability to win big is a lot bigger factor

But again, with the way he recruits the portal at OM, and with a built in structure and a school that has given him EVERYTHING, it is easier to win at OM right now. Just is. But if you want me to nail it down to one thing, it is this: OM will give him everything and ask for nothing on his end. Florida will give him 50% of what he asks for and make him jump through 9 hoops and appease Steve Spurrier in the process. Also at OM, he knows who holds the purse strings, Keith. At Florida it depends which hour of the day it is. So to sum it up, the structure is FAR BETTER at Ole Miss. Hell the structure is better at Mississippi State than it is Florida.

[Tripp McNeely]

But again, with the way he recruits the portal at OM, and with a built in structure and a school that has given him EVERYTHING, it is easier to win at OM right now. Just is. But if you want me to nail it down to one thing, it is this: OM will give him everything and ask for nothing on his end. Florida will give him 50% of what he asks for and make him jump through 9 hoops and appease Steve Spurrier in the process. Also at OM, he knows who holds the purse strings, Keith. At Florida it depends which hour of the day it is. So to sum it up, the structure is FAR BETTER at Ole Miss. Hell the structure is better at Mississippi State than it is Florida.

Again, those are all reasons why you think it's a "better (or even) job" not what makes it easier to win there.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Again, those are all reasons why you think it's a "better (or even) job" not what makes it easier to win there.

What makes it easier to win at Florida though? 15 years ago you could say they play in an easier division, better HS recruiting ground, more recent success. What can you say now? Lane hates developing players, which is why he prefers the portal, there are no divisions anymore, and OM has more recent sustained success.

[DownwardDawg]

LOL!

Can nobody on this board play along?

Absolutely no one on NAFOOM or Spirit would be defending one of our coaches no matter how much it was the truth. Remember they have Not A Fan sending Lebby to every open job right now bc he just hates Starkville and knows this program is nothing but crap. No one on their boards is giving Lebby any props for what he has done in year two.

I say Kiffin is going to Florida bc it makes them squirm like jilted little school girls. It makes them wait with bated breath bc this could be the rumor that happens to be true.

Everyone should be telling any ole miss fan they know - Well you know Lane is probably going Florida - just to watch that look they get when they realize it could be true.

**** them.
I agree with this.

[StarkVegasSteve]

LOL!

Can nobody on this board play along?

Absolutely no one on NAFOOM or Spirit would be defending one of our coaches no matter how much it was the truth. Remember they have Not A Fan sending Lebby to every open job right now bc he just hates Starkville and knows this program is nothing but crap. No one on their boards is giving Lebby any props for what he has done in year two.

I say Kiffin is going to Florida bc it makes them squirm like jilted little school girls. It makes them wait with bated breath bc this could be the rumor that happens to be true.

Everyone should be telling any ole miss fan they know - Well you know Lane is probably going Florida - just to watch that look they get when they realize it could be true.

**** them.

Why would I do that? Or care? Lane has had the better team than us every year and has never blown us out and we should have beaten them at least 1 more time. Lane just does not scare me.

Also, James Franklin is getting that job so it is a moot point. They will have Franklin wrapped up before the end of the regular season out of all likelihood. The boosters who want him are already selling the job he did at Vandy and how they know he can win in this conference. There is some belief he will bring some Penn St players with him as well.

[Bdawg]

But name one advantage Florida has over OM? In this new era there is not one.

You stepped in shit on this one. JMO.

[Todd4State]

They can get into a bidding war, win it, and it will not affect one damn thing. Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, Jerry Hollingsworth, John Black, and Bill Jordan will go as high as Keith needs them to go. They are 100% bought in for Kiffin. They will find the money. Florida is not that bought in.

Also, how is it much easier to make it at Florida? I mean if it was so easy to win at Florida, why did Ron Zook fail? Why did Will Muschamp fail? Why did Jim McElwain fail? Why did Dan Mullen ultimately fail? Why did Napier fail? It is not easier to win there. Their boosters are batshit crazy and think it is still 1996 and they are the only team that runs a spread offense.

Both schools are in the SEC and there are no divisions. Some of you are still operating like this is 2005. HS recruiting does not really matter, paying players is completely legal, and OM is a hell of a lot more consistent than Florida has been in the last 15 years. Outside of the Mullen years, Florida has been two steps below mediocre. Hell outside of those 3 years you could argue Florida is a bottom 3rd team in the SEC in the last 15 years. That is just not as attractive a job as it was 15 years ago, especially in the NIL era.

And despite that- Spurrier and Urban Meyer won National Championships. Some of those failed coaches you mentioned- including McElwain and Dan won SEC East Championships there. So, let's say our job is comparable to Ole Miss in accomplishments the past 25 years or so. Dan won more games more easily at Florida than he did here. It would be the same if Kiffin took over. Zook and Muschamp failed because no one wanted to replace Spurrier and Meyer there. Napier failed because Scott Stricklin is their athletic director for some reason.

Don't forget that Florida completely waxed Ole Miss last year in Gainesville.

The reality is this rumor is floating out there because Lane is looking. I have no doubt about that. He hasn't come out and refuted it or said he isn't interested- yet.

[Todd4State]

Why would I do that? Or care? Lane has had the better team than us every year and has never blown us out and we should have beaten them at least 1 more time. Lane just does not scare me.

Also, James Franklin is getting that job so it is a moot point. They will have Franklin wrapped up before the end of the regular season out of all likelihood. The boosters who want him are already selling the job he did at Vandy and how they know he can win in this conference. There is some belief he will bring some Penn St players with him as well.

Are you saying Franklin to Ole Miss?

If that is the case then there is definitely smoke to Lane to Florida because you don't just go coach shopping when you are 6-0 if there is nothing to a rumor.

[State82]

Are you saying Franklin to Ole Miss?

I was thinking SVS meant Franklin was getting the UF job.

[Coursesuper]

They can get into a bidding war, win it, and it will not affect one damn thing. Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, Jerry Hollingsworth, John Black, and Bill Jordan will go as high as Keith needs them to go. They are 100% bought in for Kiffin. They will find the money. Florida is not that bought in.

Also, how is it much easier to make it at Florida? I mean if it was so easy to win at Florida, why did Ron Zook fail? Why did Will Muschamp fail? Why did Jim McElwain fail? Why did Dan Mullen ultimately fail? Why did Napier fail? It is not easier to win there. Their boosters are batshit crazy and think it is still 1996 and they are the only team that runs a spread offense.

Both schools are in the SEC and there are no divisions. Some of you are still operating like this is 2005. HS recruiting does not really matter, paying players is completely legal, and OM is a hell of a lot more consistent than Florida has been in the last 15 years. Outside of the Mullen years, Florida has been two steps below mediocre. Hell outside of those 3 years you could argue Florida is a bottom 3rd team in the SEC in the last 15 years. That is just not as attractive a job as it was 15 years ago, especially in the NIL era.

This is all the truth and exactly how it really is.

[Santiago]

The only thing to me that bothers Kiffin at ole miss , publicly, is the lack of students in the stands. Every year he calls them out.
Depends on at what point does he miss a big stadium, big games, TV attention and the crowds.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You stepped in shit on this one. JMO.

Again, you're still looking at this through the prism of it being prior to NIL, conference expansion, and the portal.

Schedule: There's no more divisions so Florida doesn't avoid the majority of the West and get to beat up on UK and Vandy every year.

Recruiting: Lane doesn't really recruit HS players. He prefers the portal. And he's going to get the same caliber HS player in Gainesville as he will in Oxford. Recruiting as all about money now. Not about fit or program prestige and history. Also, OM gets just as much Jordan stuff for players as Florida does so the Jordan brand stuff doesn't matter. Hell Dart wore Jordan cleats the past 2 years.

Admin: The buck starts and stops with Keith at OM and Boyce stays the hell out of the way. Lane goes to Keith, and Keith approves what Lane wants. At Florida, Stricklin has to ask Foley and Spurrier permission to use the bathroom much less approve anything a coach asks for

Boosters: OM is completely aligned and rowing in the same direction. Florida can't figure out which direction it's rowing. Hell they fired Dan Mullen after 3 straight NY6 bowls and fired McElwain after back to back SECCG appearances. They're just like Auburn.


Look maybe Lane is just hellbent on going to Florida so he can wear that Gator logo on his visor like Spurrier. But to think that Florida is a better job right now is thinking like their boosters. In the words of Dan Mullen when Geoff Collins left, "It's just a lateral move."

[Todd4State]

Again, you're still looking at this through the prism of it being prior to NIL, conference expansion, and the portal.

Schedule: There's no more divisions so Florida doesn't avoid the majority of the West and get to beat up on UK and Vandy every year.

Recruiting: Lane doesn't really recruit HS players. He prefers the portal. And he's going to get the same caliber HS player in Gainesville as he will in Oxford. Recruiting as all about money now. Not about fit or program prestige and history. Also, OM gets just as much Jordan stuff for players as Florida does so the Jordan brand stuff doesn't matter. Hell Dart wore Jordan cleats the past 2 years.

Admin: The buck starts and stops with Keith at OM and Boyce stays the hell out of the way. Lane goes to Keith, and Keith approves what Lane wants. At Florida, Stricklin has to ask Foley and Spurrier permission to use the bathroom much less approve anything a coach asks for

Boosters: OM is completely aligned and rowing in the same direction. Florida can't figure out which direction it's rowing. Hell they fired Dan Mullen after 3 straight NY6 bowls and fired McElwain after back to back SECCG appearances. They're just like Auburn.


Look maybe Lane is just hellbent on going to Florida so he can wear that Gator logo on his visor like Spurrier. But to think that Florida is a better job right now is thinking like their boosters. In the words of Dan Mullen when Geoff Collins left, "It's just a lateral move."

So, let's talk about NIL, conference expansion and the portal.

NIL- Ole Miss was ahead of everyone on this. They're not anymore. Florida can match and exceed what Ole Miss can do there.

Conference expansion- Ole Miss has had easy schedules since 2020. That is going to change soon. Look at their 2027 schedule. It's pretty brutal. Not sure what Florida has coming up but the reality is the odds of hitting on a D2 QB every year are not good and you can attract better players to Florida especially now that the NIL situation is settling down.

Portal- Yes, high school recruiting has been deemphasized but you not to the degree you are talking about. Even Ole Miss is starting some players that they recruited out of high school like Franklin, Perkins, and the DT from Houston. You still have to have that core group of players to build around. Like MSU has KT, Stonka, Jimothy Lewis, Lockhart, and etc. to build around. If Kiffin goes to Florida he is going to have Lagway and Wilson to build around. So, where can you consistently get more elite high school players to build that core around? Mississippi or Florida? And if you are a player in the portal and the money is the same because Florida absolutely can match Ole Miss where would you rather go? Oxford where it's all about Greek culture and Southern lifestyle or Florida where you are no more than a few hours from the beach at all times?

And I feel pretty confident that Florida has way more wealthy boosters as Ole Miss too.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So, let's talk about NIL, conference expansion and the portal.

NIL- Ole Miss was ahead of everyone on this. They're not anymore. Florida can match and exceed what Ole Miss can do there.

Conference expansion- Ole Miss has had easy schedules since 2020. That is going to change soon. Look at their 2027 schedule. It's pretty brutal. Not sure what Florida has coming up but the reality is the odds of hitting on a D2 QB every year are not good and you can attract better players to Florida especially now that the NIL situation is settling down.

Portal- Yes, high school recruiting has been deemphasized but you not to the degree you are talking about. Even Ole Miss is starting some players that they recruited out of high school like Franklin, Perkins, and the DT from Houston. You still have to have that core group of players to build around. Like MSU has KT, Stonka, Jimothy Lewis, Lockhart, and etc. to build around. If Kiffin goes to Florida he is going to have Lagway and Wilson to build around. So, where can you consistently get more elite high school players to build that core around? Mississippi or Florida? And if you are a player in the portal and the money is the same because Florida absolutely can match Ole Miss where would you rather go? Oxford where it's all about Greek culture and Southern lifestyle or Florida where you are no more than a few hours from the beach at all times?

And I feel pretty confident that Florida has way more wealthy boosters as Ole Miss too.

Not really. That core 5 at Ole Miss can match about any program because they are COMPLETELY bought in. Florida does not, and will never, have that type of buy in.

[Santiago]

Lane seemed to have come close to going to Auburn, or heavily considering that his daughter talked him into staying at ole miss. Florida would be a bigger consideration.

If there are boosters funding that buyout for Billy, then I would be interested to know what NIL commitment they make for the new HC.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lane seemed to have come close to going to Auburn, or heavily considering that his daughter talked him into staying at ole miss. Florida would be a bigger consideration.

If there are boosters funding that buyout for Billy, then I would be interested to know what NIL commitment they make for the new HC.

They did not back up the commitment they made for Billy. That will ring in the mind of a lot of coaches.

[LC Dawg]

If the LSU job opened up this year and I was advising Kiffin I would tell him to take it.
It took Spurrier and Urban to win championships at Florida but Les and O won one at LSU.
And for the record I think the LSU job opens up this year.

[bulldawg28]

The Florida job comes with extreme stress. It's way too many chiefs there. Lane doesn't like to be controlled or extremely stressed. I'd be shocked if he accepts another job

[PGHBulldogBG]

If the LSU job opened up this year and I was advising Kiffin I would tell him to take it.
It took Spurrier and Urban to win championships at Florida but Les and O won one at LSU.
And for the record I think the LSU job opens up this year.

Yea I see LSU ending 8-4 so it will be interesting to see what they do with Kelly missing the playoffs for 4 straight years.

[Cowbell]

Is there anything that would make you think we are a good team?

- A confident QB who can attach defenses with his legs
- An offensive line that can pass-block against an SEC D-line
- A defensive line that can take over a game against an SEc offensive line

[Cowbell]

Some of you guys who aren't living in modern times don't realize the ole miss job is currently better than the current Florida job.

[Goldendawg]

- A confident QB who can attach defenses with his legs
- An offensive line that can pass-block against an SEC D-line
- A defensive line that can take over a game against an SEc offensive line

We are improved in some areas this year, but still the "Washington Generals" of the SEC until we start winning SEC games again. Hope we break the current 14 game SEC losing streak Saturday against FL and then a couple more wins this year!

[Todd4State]

Not really. That core 5 at Ole Miss can match about any program because they are COMPLETELY bought in. Florida does not, and will never, have that type of buy in.

If Kiffin loses an Egg Bowl or two we'll see just how completely bought in they are.

[Todd4State]

Some of you guys who aren't living in modern times don't realize the ole miss job is currently better than the current Florida job.

You might want to tell CBS sports about these "modern times".

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-footballs-best-coaching-jobs-which-programs-are-set-up-to-compete-for-future-national-titles/

[basedog]

If Kiffin loses an Egg Bowl or two we'll see just how completely bought in they are.

Ole Dixie say Msu isn't our rival***

[msstate7]

You might want to tell CBS sports about these "modern times".

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-footballs-best-coaching-jobs-which-programs-are-set-up-to-compete-for-future-national-titles/

I've said it before, but it's true... no one has a higher opinion of OM than OM and state fans

[StarkVegasSteve]

If the LSU job opened up this year and I was advising Kiffin I would tell him to take it.
It took Spurrier and Urban to win championships at Florida but Les and O won one at LSU.
And for the record I think the LSU job opens up this year.

That's the job. If LSU comes open, he's taking it. He wanted it when Ed got it in 17 and was sniffing around when Kelly got it in 21.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Kiffin loses an Egg Bowl or two we'll see just how completely bought in they are.

They will be just as bought in. As long as Lane Kiffin is on the sidelines in Oxford, their buy in as all in.

[EdwardDrayton]

If Kiffin loses an Egg Bowl or two we'll see just how completely bought in they are.

^^^^^

[EdwardDrayton]

I've said it before, but it's true... no one has a higher opinion of OM than OM and state fans

Au contraire. Most State fans see them as an entitled privileged bunch of douchebagz. That hasn't changed in a hundred years.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Au contraire. Most State fans see them as an entitled privileged bunch of douchebagz. That hasn't changed in a hundred years.

I actually have started to not mind the old time Ole Miss fans. It's these new age fans from the north that are just god awful. Like when it was just TX and GA kids that were going it wasn't a big deal because they had been doing it for 50 years. It was a joke and they were in on the joke. They didn't care. Now it's these kids from NJ, NY, PA, etc that have no clue about the rivalry or about SEC Football. They think OM has always been a king of college football and don't realize that they were a middling program 6 years ago.

I really don't pay OM that much attention anymore. I used to really care and get really fired up about just hating everything about them, but I really don't anymore. We have far bigger problems to solve on our end. I worry about those before I worry about OM. I also am not scared of OM. They are not some big bad program just because Kiffin is there. They are the same OM program they always have been. Really good offense, iffy defense, they'll win a couple they shouldn't, and lose a couple they shouldn't.

[EdwardDrayton]

I actually have started to not mind the old time Ole Miss fans. It's these new age fans from the north that are just god awful. Like when it was just TX and GA kids that were going it wasn't a big deal because they had been doing it for 50 years. It was a joke and they were in on the joke. They didn't care. Now it's these kids from NJ, NY, PA, etc that have no clue about the rivalry or about SEC Football. They think OM has always been a king of college football and don't realize that they were a middling program 6 years ago.

I really don't pay OM that much attention anymore. I used to really care and get really fired up about just hating everything about them, but I really don't anymore. We have far bigger problems to solve on our end. I worry about those before I worry about OM. I also am not scared of OM. They are not some big bad program just because Kiffin is there. They are the same OM program they always have been. Really good offense, iffy defense, they'll win a couple they shouldn't, and lose a couple they shouldn't.

Their downturn in the cycle is not far away.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Their downturn in the cycle is not far away.

Correct. That's the thing. All this is cyclical. My personal guess......their downturn is next year. They put a lot of trust in Simmons being what they needed him to be and he got hurt combined with he wasn't playing well and Chambliss was playing amazing. Chambliss is out of eligibility, Simmons will transfer, and they will need a QB. Now, a lot of people are going to say, "Well every QB is going to be lining up to play for Lane." And while that may be true, Lane has also shown that he's not scared to play the hot hand, no matter how many stars are behind that guy's name and how much he is getting in NIL. That is going to cause a lot of pause to some of these high market value QB's that will enter the portal. They and their representatives are going to want assurances that they will be the starter no matter what.

[Santiago]

Correct. That's the thing. All this is cyclical. My personal guess......their downturn is next year. They put a lot of trust in Simmons being what they needed him to be and he got hurt combined with he wasn't playing well and Chambliss was playing amazing. Chambliss is out of eligibility, Simmons will transfer, and they will need a QB. Now, a lot of people are going to say, "Well every QB is going to be lining up to play for Lane." And while that may be true, Lane has also shown that he's not scared to play the hot hand, no matter how many stars are behind that guy's name and how much he is getting in NIL. That is going to cause a lot of pause to some of these high market value QB's that will enter the portal. They and their representatives are going to want assurances that they will be the starter no matter what.

also reminds me of a quote Mullen once said or maybe he was quoting Urban. That a college coaching job has to change every so many years just for a fan base to get new energy , and a coach to leave on a respected term.

[StarkVegasSteve]

also reminds me of a quote Mullen once said or maybe he was quoting Urban. That a college coaching job has to change every so many years just for a fan base to get new energy , and a coach to leave on a respected term.

Correct. I think you just saw that happen at Penn St. It happened here with Mullen in 2016. He knew it and our fans knew. Funny enough it actually happened twice with Mullen, 13 and 16, and both times he won the Egg Bowl and perception completely flipped.