View Full Version : Day 1 of reason why we will beat Texas A$M
Maverick91
09-29-2025, 03:04 PM
Our OOC opponents to me stack up the same. I asked ChatGPT to analyze this and they gave A$M the edge purely due to Notre Dame. I think the Sun devils would take them on a wild ride.
Nothing of what A$M has done to any of their opponents make me go "gosh. Dang. Crap" they have beaten the people they were supposed to. Honestly I am really unempressed with how they played Auburn. I don't know how Auburn has scored the points they have this year. That game should have been 38-10. I feel like everything we hear about A$M is just regurgitated year over year. They will always be easy until they aren't.
State has as impressive of a resume as they do. Both sides of the ball looks as good or better to be honest as they do. I just don't see any reason why we cannot go in there and win.
BrunswickDawg
09-29-2025, 03:12 PM
Texas 8&4 is Texas 8&4
They are half way to the 8. They need to begin amassing the 4. This week is as good as any.
MaroonFlounder
09-29-2025, 03:22 PM
If they have good edge rushers, we are toast.
Maverick91
09-29-2025, 04:03 PM
If they have good edge rushers, we are toast.
Truly only if we don't freaking make the correct reads in the RPO game. If we gash them they will have to keep the edge at bay and we can then hit our receivers.
Offshore Dawg
09-29-2025, 04:07 PM
How many starters are the dawgs missing for this game.
DawgFromOxford
09-29-2025, 04:13 PM
There's not a game on our schedule that I would count us out of at this point.
StarkVegasSteve
09-29-2025, 04:15 PM
There's not a game on our schedule that I would count us out of at this point.
There is not a game left I look at and say we can't win.
TrapGame
09-29-2025, 04:21 PM
If we win this weekend we will finish 9-3 just outside the playoff bubble and Lebby gets COTY.
StarkVegasSteve
09-29-2025, 04:28 PM
If we win this weekend we will finish 9-3 just outside the playoff bubble and Lebby gets COTY.
If we finish 9-3 we're in. That would be road wins at A&M and possibly at Mizzou with home wins against against either Texas, UGA, or OM. No one would have a resume close to that.
PGHBulldogBG
09-29-2025, 04:39 PM
I actually am a believer that A&M will not be their usual 8-4 this year unless we pull the upset Saturday. Their issue has always been coaching and Mike Elko seems to be different from the "flashy" coaches they have got in the past. I expect them to go 10-2 this year with losses @ Missouri and @ Texas. They play at LSU but LSU is the product of a high preseason ranking and I think aTm is a much better team.
Cowbeller
09-29-2025, 07:18 PM
Thank you Maverick. I am still stinging from Saturday and I now have found a fellow believer in our improbable playoff destiny
cheewgumm
09-29-2025, 07:25 PM
How is their run defense?
cheewgumm
09-29-2025, 07:26 PM
I think their run defense is not great
We should
Run
Run
Run
Run
Run
Then
Run
Maverick91
09-29-2025, 08:38 PM
How is their run defense?
Matre dame 132
Utah State 78
UTSA 203
Au 🔥 53
I actually feel like Tennessee has been better against the rush this year than a$m.
They boys just gotta believe. They gotta have that freaking grit that leach walked into Georgia with in 2020. If they do, it's their game.
Coach34
09-29-2025, 09:09 PM
We wont stay within 10 on the road
They are better than us and healthier
Bdawg
09-29-2025, 09:19 PM
How many starters are the dawgs missing for this game.
This is the biggest question. We don?t even know who we are going to war with. A lot of our studs were limping or gimping by games end.
Maverick91
09-29-2025, 09:22 PM
We wont stay within 10 on the road
They are better than us and healthier
Blah. I throw up upon your grossly under thought opinion.
This will be rough and a 4 quarter game.
Coach34
09-29-2025, 09:41 PM
Blah. I throw up upon your grossly under thought opinion.
This will be rough and a 4 quarter game.
ok Chopper
cheewgumm
09-29-2025, 11:21 PM
Lebby will come up
With a good game plan?:but?.
I would run it as much as possible. All 3 backs, all night.
Shorten the game as well.
This really reminds me of State at LSU when Jackie was there and Sleepy optioned them
To death.
Todd4State
09-30-2025, 02:56 AM
Lebby will come up
With a good game plan?:but?.
I would run it as much as possible. All 3 backs, all night.
Shorten the game as well.
This really reminds me of State at LSU when Jackie was there and Sleepy optioned them
To death.
They're bottom half of the SEC in both passing and rush defense. Therefore, we can likely be balanced and will be Ok. They're good at sacking people but don't have a ton of turnovers.
BrunswickDawg
09-30-2025, 07:51 AM
They're bottom half of the SEC in both passing and rush defense. Therefore, we can likely be balanced and will be Ok. They're good at sacking people but don't have a ton of turnovers.
Their D has been Jekyll and Hyde:
203 Rushing yards to UTSA but only 52 to Auburn?
293 passing yards to ND, but only 125 to Auburn.
And, we are giving up a TD less per game.
Todd4State
09-30-2025, 07:55 AM
Their D has been Jekyll and Hyde:
203 Rushing yards to UTSA but only 52 to Auburn?
293 passing yards to ND, but only 125 to Auburn.
And, we are giving up a TD less per game.
I suspect that is more about Auburn being bad on offense. Auburn is not in the top 10 in scoring offense, total offense, passing and rushing.
StarkVegasSteve
09-30-2025, 08:28 AM
I suspect that is more about Auburn being bad on offense. Auburn is not in the top 10 in scoring offense, total offense, passing and rushing.
It's 100% Auburn just being bad offensively. Auburn has completely abandoned the Hugh Freeze offense. And I suspect it's because he, once again, doesn't have the QB to run it. They don't look like they have a clue what is going on offensively at the moment. Durkin and their D are keeping them in games right now.
parabrave
09-30-2025, 09:02 AM
It's 100% Auburn just being bad offensively. Auburn has completely abandoned the Hugh Freeze offense. And I suspect it's because he, once again, doesn't have the QB to run it. They don't look like they have a clue what is going on offensively at the moment. Durkin and their D are keeping them in games right now.
freeze made the mistake of getting Jackson Arnold. The Okiies were glad to be rid of him. He is a slower version of Tyler Russell.
Maverick91
09-30-2025, 09:21 AM
It's 100% Auburn just being bad offensively. Auburn has completely abandoned the Hugh Freeze offense. And I suspect it's because he, once again, doesn't have the QB to run it. They don't look like they have a clue what is going on offensively at the moment. Durkin and their D are keeping them in games right now.
That's just pisspoor coaching. If you know you have to have a specific qb to run your offense then go get that guy.
StarkVegasSteve
09-30-2025, 09:51 AM
That's just pisspoor coaching. If you know you have to have a specific qb to run your offense then go get that guy.
Arnold was pushed on Freeze. Everything I had heard at the time, which is another reason I was so damn adamant we would get Arnold, is that Freeze wanted either Fernando Mendoza or Maalik Murphy. Arnold cannot run that offense, and Freeze knew that, because that offense makes the QB make a ton of reads pre snap and Arnold is not used to that. The only offense he can really run effectively is ours. They are now having to completely change everything about what they do. If he continues to struggle, Freeze will pull the plug and go to Deuce Knight.
PGHBulldogBG
09-30-2025, 10:02 AM
I would much rather have Shapen at QB knowing his injury risk than Arnold. I am glad he went to Auburn and we didn't get stuck paying him a bunch of money. Their defense is good though and I think it will allow them to win 7 games this year, but I am not sure if that will be enough to keep Freeze employed.
FISHDAWG
09-30-2025, 10:06 AM
It's hard to know what to expect when your defense gives up so many penalties. It's hard to know what to expect on any given Saturday in the SEC. It's so dependent on things that are hard to control like turnovers, referees, emotions, game plans, ... bounces and breaks. All I know is this team has surprised me and I've gone from doubtful to hopeful. We haven't been here in a while so let's enjoy whatever unfolds now knowing that we can finally have some confidence in our staff and players.
Maverick91
09-30-2025, 11:21 AM
Arnold was pushed on Freeze. Everything I had heard at the time, which is another reason I was so damn adamant we would get Arnold, is that Freeze wanted either Fernando Mendoza or Maalik Murphy. Arnold cannot run that offense, and Freeze knew that, because that offense makes the QB make a ton of reads pre snap and Arnold is not used to that. The only offense he can really run effectively is ours. They are now having to completely change everything about what they do. If he continues to struggle, Freeze will pull the plug and go to Deuce Knight.
I am obviously not in that world. But dang how to let a kid you know cannot run what you were hired to do become your qb.
StarkVegasSteve
09-30-2025, 11:30 AM
I am obviously not in that world. But dang how to let a kid you know cannot run what you were hired to do become your qb.
Because he was given a directive from boosters to go get him. They heard Mississippi State was going to get him and we’re not going to lose a QB to us. Cohen has infected them to the point of anything we have or want, they have to have it.
confucius say
09-30-2025, 11:50 AM
We wont stay within 10 on the road
They are better than us and healthier
And we spent a ton of energy vs TN.
If 0, 1, and 2 are healthy (I'm assuming Reese doesn't play), I say 34-23.
confucius say
09-30-2025, 11:54 AM
Because he was given a directive from boosters to go get him. They heard Mississippi State was going to get him and we’re not going to lose a QB to us. Cohen has infected them to the point of anything we have or want, they have to have it.
Are you saying Freeze and the Auburn staff were not allowed to choose a QB they wanted? That place is crazy
Maverick91
09-30-2025, 12:24 PM
Because he was given a directive from boosters to go get him. They heard Mississippi State was going to get him and we’re not going to lose a QB to us. Cohen has infected them to the point of anything we have or want, they have to have it.
So you are saying we sent a trojan horse ? Cohen is coming through. Evil laugh
Maverick91
09-30-2025, 12:28 PM
And we spent a ton of energy vs TN.
If 0, 1, and 2 are healthy (I'm assuming Reese doesn't play), I say 34-23.
Them jokers beat us 34-24 last year. How are you guys thinking after what you say this whole season. We are still as good as we were last year?
Cowbeller
09-30-2025, 01:16 PM
Them jokers beat us 34-24 last year. How are you guys thinking after what you say this whole season. We are still as good as we were last year?
Once again our fans want to resort to the poor miss st we just aint good enough boohoo attitude. I got a crazy prediction, ASU wins the big 12, TN finishes top 3 in the SEC, and we beat the aggies this weekend. We are good and 1-0 is the standard Lebby is expecting every week now.
confucius say
09-30-2025, 01:19 PM
Them jokers beat us 34-24 last year. How are you guys thinking after what you say this whole season. We are still as good as we were last year?
We are better this year.
They are better this year.
But the game isn't played in a vacuum.
We were at home last year.
They are at home this year.
We are coming off an emotionally and physically draining game.
They are off a bye.
If they were at home last week and lost in OT with numerous injuries while we were on a bye and the game was in Starkville, I'd have it closer.
Coach34
09-30-2025, 01:29 PM
Lots of concern at WR for us. If we have to play with the back-up WR's- no way in hell we win this game.
DownwardDawg
09-30-2025, 01:47 PM
We wont stay within 10 on the road
They are better than us and healthier
I don't know anything about them. Their past makes me say we can always beat them. However, I know that's silly because past means nothing. I thought Tennessee was a 100% un winnable game but we should have beaten them. So I don't know what to expect.
Dawgface
09-30-2025, 02:12 PM
We wont stay within 10 on the road
They are better than us and healthier
I hate to agree but I do. We?re need a bye to heal up mentally and physically.
StarkVegasSteve
09-30-2025, 03:37 PM
Are you saying Freeze and the Auburn staff were not allowed to choose a QB they wanted? That place is crazy
The boosters run that place and have really since Jay Jacobs left. Jacobs always had them somewhat under control and they got rid of him so they could install Allen Greene, who they fired to get Cohen because he hired Harsin.
Maverick91
09-30-2025, 04:07 PM
We are better this year.
They are better this year.
But the game isn't played in a vacuum.
We were at home last year.
They are at home this year.
We are coming off an emotionally and physically draining game.
They are off a bye.
If they were at home last week and lost in OT with numerous injuries while we were on a bye and the game was in Starkville, I'd have it closer.
They lost a pretty physical game to Auburn last week. They aren't coming off a bye.
Their home turf is about as scary as a dead 🐭. It holds a tone of folks but they just wait for them yell leaders to tell them when to make noise.
I'm not looking at it in a vacuum. I see us how we played last year it was within ten. To how we are playing this year and we are 10 times better as a program. And they look about the same.
Todd4State
09-30-2025, 04:27 PM
They lost a pretty physical game to Auburn last week. They aren't coming off a bye.
Their home turf is about as scary as a dead . It holds a tone of folks but they just wait for them yell leaders to tell them when to make noise.
I'm not looking at it in a vacuum. I see us how we played last year it was within ten. To how we are playing this year and we are 10 times better as a program. And they look about the same.
I agree that Kyle Field isn't intimidating at all. Unless you get freaked out by weird chants which is maybe what they're going for. To me it seems like the fans are kind of far from the field.
BulldogBear
09-30-2025, 08:19 PM
Because he was given a directive from boosters to go get him. They heard Mississippi State was going to get him and we?re not going to lose a QB to us. Cohen has infected them to the point of anything we have or want, they have to have it. Hmmmm... see below
Are you saying Freeze and the Auburn staff were not allowed to choose a QB they wanted? That place is crazy
Yes
So you are saying we sent a trojan horse ? Cohen is coming through. Evil laugh
Not true. But it ought to be!
The boosters run that place and have really since Jay Jacobs left. Jacobs always had them somewhat under control and they got rid of him so they could install Allen Greene, who they fired to get Cohen because he hired Harsin.
See above. Yes, I've never known of any school where boosters micromanaged things like they do at Auburn. Maybe it was better under Jacobs but that was an anomaly.
I agree that Kyle Field isn't intimidating at all. Unless you get freaked out by weird chants which is maybe what they're going for. To me it seems like the fans are kind of far from the field.
I think fans are close enough to the field. I sat on row 3 right behind the MSU bench in our 35-14 win there in 2017. We were right there. As for the environment, it's hard to put a finger on. Maybe whether it is intimidating or not isn't the right thing to wonder about. If I had to choose a way to put it, I would say this: It is just not that...hostile. Maybe it is for the Longhorns or others. Maybe they just think we are beneath their ire. Talk to any of them and they just can't believe that we have about the same record against them as some blueblood SEC teams since they've joined the conference. Tell them we're 5-5 in the last decade, and they just don't remember it that way. They won't call you a liar, they just don't remember it being like that. Aggies are weird. Passionate. Delusional. But not hostile.
Todd4State
09-30-2025, 10:53 PM
Arnold was pushed on Freeze. Everything I had heard at the time, which is another reason I was so damn adamant we would get Arnold, is that Freeze wanted either Fernando Mendoza or Maalik Murphy. Arnold cannot run that offense, and Freeze knew that, because that offense makes the QB make a ton of reads pre snap and Arnold is not used to that. The only offense he can really run effectively is ours. They are now having to completely change everything about what they do. If he continues to struggle, Freeze will pull the plug and go to Deuce Knight.
Part of that is on Arnold and his camp too. QB is one position where the offense has to fit the QB's skill set. Like- you wouldn't ask Dan Marino to run the wishbone. But he would probably be pretty badass in the Air Raid. As Clint Eastwood said- a man has to know his limitations. Same with any QB.
It goes to show you how teams get so fixated on stars sometimes that they end up screwing themselves and the player over.
Todd4State
09-30-2025, 10:55 PM
I would much rather have Shapen at QB knowing his injury risk than Arnold. I am glad he went to Auburn and we didn't get stuck paying him a bunch of money. Their defense is good though and I think it will allow them to win 7 games this year, but I am not sure if that will be enough to keep Freeze employed.
Thing is I doubt that Shapen stays if we get Arnold. I think we came out OK, but I also think that Arnold would have been better off coming to MSU because of the scheme fit.
confucius say
10-01-2025, 07:50 AM
They lost a pretty physical game to Auburn last week. They aren't coming off a bye.
Their home turf is about as scary as a dead 🐭. It holds a tone of folks but they just wait for them yell leaders to tell them when to make noise.
I'm not looking at it in a vacuum. I see us how we played last year it was within ten. To how we are playing this year and we are 10 times better as a program. And they look about the same.
That's right on Auburn. Not sure why I thought bye.
That helps.
I think we cover but lose.
Coach34
10-01-2025, 08:21 AM
They had a Bi the week before Auburn
Maverick91
10-01-2025, 09:41 AM
That's right on Auburn. Not sure why I thought bye.
That helps.
I think we cover but lose.
Dang. I thought I had you bought in.
smootness
10-01-2025, 11:53 AM
freeze made the mistake of getting Jackson Arnold. The Okiies were glad to be rid of him. He is a slower version of Tyler Russell.
Wut
Arnold is an infinitely better athlete than Russell.
StarkVegasSteve
10-01-2025, 01:28 PM
Wut
Arnold is an infinitely better athlete than Russell.
Yea Tyler was a statue in the pocket. Arnold may not throw a great ball, but he's 100x the athlete Tyler was on his absolute best day. And that's not a knock on Tyler, he just wasn't a dual threat guy.
confucius say
10-01-2025, 01:55 PM
Dang. I thought I had you bought in.
Haha. It would not shock me. I just don't expect it. I do expect us to cover though unless nearly all of the hurt guys cannot go.
BravesDoggy
10-02-2025, 11:27 AM
Speaking of 95 MPH fastballs to the feet of a WR running a slant that came up in another thread about MVB, why have we totally abandoned that part of the game this season? We aren't running any slants or short crosses. We are having Shapen stand back there and wait for long developing routes to form or nothing else. And we are only running one or 2 bubble screens.
Coleman feasted on YAC from shorter passes last year and it seems like that concept is totally gone this season. Waiting for 3 or 4 long passes to hit on the teams we have coming up for the rest of the season seems like a recipe for failure.
Todd4State
10-02-2025, 12:47 PM
Speaking of 95 MPH fastballs to the feet of a WR running a slant that came up in another thread about MVB, why have we totally abandoned that part of the game this season? We aren't running any slants or short crosses. We are having Shapen stand back there and wait for long developing routes to form or nothing else. And we are only running one or 2 bubble screens.
Coleman feasted on YAC from shorter passes last year and it seems like that concept is totally gone this season. Waiting for 3 or 4 long passes to hit on the teams we have coming up for the rest of the season seems like a recipe for failure.
My guess is that is on the receivers and maybe the offensive line to a degree.
Could be based on coverage some as well.
Maverick91
10-02-2025, 12:48 PM
Speaking of 95 MPH fastballs to the feet of a WR running a slant that came up in another thread about MVB, why have we totally abandoned that part of the game this season? We aren't running any slants or short crosses. We are having Shapen stand back there and wait for long developing routes to form or nothing else. And we are only running one or 2 bubble screens.
Coleman feasted on YAC from shorter passes last year and it seems like that concept is totally gone this season. Waiting for 3 or 4 long passes to hit on the teams we have coming up for the rest of the season seems like a recipe for failure.
Really great point. I have thought the same thing. Are we running it and he isn't throwing it or are we not running it at all?
BravesDoggy
10-02-2025, 01:08 PM
Really great point. I have thought the same thing. Are we running it and he isn't throwing it or are we not running it at all?
I'm not liking the trend that its Seydou this game, Brennen/Evans that game, back to Seydou, etc.
Maverick91
10-02-2025, 02:33 PM
I'm not liking the trend that its Seydou this game, Brennen/Evans that game, back to Seydou, etc.
I know there are hot targets each game but yeah consistency is nice
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