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msstate7
09-29-2025, 07:41 AM
1. Tenn
2. Arizona st
10. USM

Is this bc they faced us or has our oline just had an insane run of teams that pressure the qb?

Next 2 games...
aTm #13
Florida #134

We might be able to give Shapen time vs the gators.

Coach34
09-29-2025, 08:55 AM
we are 13th in the SEC with sacks allowed at 11. Thats not terrible but it isnt great. Reverend Freezus and his glorious O has surrendered 21 sacks. Wonder if that QB is wishing he had come here instead now.

Prediction? Pain.
09-29-2025, 09:22 AM
Look at that, I check back in for the first time in a while and 7's asking a stat question, just like old times.

I think the answer is that it's a mix of both.

Tennessee's 5 sacks Saturday were in line with the 5 they had at Syracuse and 4 against UGA. Arizona St. had 3 against us but 6 against TCU, 2 against Baylor, and then 8 more between Texas St. and Northern Az. And USM only had 1 sack against us; they picked up 14 more in their other four games.

A&M is going to be tough for lots of reasons. Looks like the pass rush will be one of them.

Of the remainder, oddly UGA and U. Miss. defenses are the weakest in this department. (Bear in mind that these are raw sack numbers. Sack rate would be better since it takes into account how many pass attempts a defense faces.)

For what it's worth, Tennessee and Az. St. are also both top ten nationally in TFLs per game. Tennessee had 11 Saturday, which is their season high so far. But we also rushed it more than anyone else they've played, so that makes sense. Az. St., on the other hand, had 6 TFLs against us but 13 Saturday against TCU.

The flip side: State is allowing 2.2 sacks per game, which is 91st nationally. That's not great, especially given that we're also 91st nationally in passes attempted per game. At the same time, we're allowing only 5.2 TFLs per game, which is 61st nationally. Given how much we run (18th nationally attempts per game), that's pretty solid.

Long story short, our eyes aren't lying: We're better at run blocking than pass blocking.

Based on these numbers, it's possible that Tennessee and Az. St. had the best D-lines (or at least best at producing chaos) we'll face all season. A&M is right there with them, but then after that things might normalize, at least a little. Hopefully that'll give the line a chance to correct some things. It's not like the schedule's too hard from here on out, right?

Todd4State
09-29-2025, 06:19 PM
Look at that, I check back in for the first time in a while and 7's asking a stat question, just like old times.

I think the answer is that it's a mix of both.

Tennessee's 5 sacks Saturday were in line with the 5 they had at Syracuse and 4 against UGA. Arizona St. had 3 against us but 6 against TCU, 2 against Baylor, and then 8 more between Texas St. and Northern Az. And USM only had 1 sack against us; they picked up 14 more in their other four games.

A&M is going to be tough for lots of reasons. Looks like the pass rush will be one of them.

Of the remainder, oddly UGA and U. Miss. defenses are the weakest in this department. (Bear in mind that these are raw sack numbers. Sack rate would be better since it takes into account how many pass attempts a defense faces.)

For what it's worth, Tennessee and Az. St. are also both top ten nationally in TFLs per game. Tennessee had 11 Saturday, which is their season high so far. But we also rushed it more than anyone else they've played, so that makes sense. Az. St., on the other hand, had 6 TFLs against us but 13 Saturday against TCU.

The flip side: State is allowing 2.2 sacks per game, which is 91st nationally. That's not great, especially given that we're also 91st nationally in passes attempted per game. At the same time, we're allowing only 5.2 TFLs per game, which is 61st nationally. Given how much we run (18th nationally attempts per game), that's pretty solid.

Long story short, our eyes aren't lying: We're better at run blocking than pass blocking.

Based on these numbers, it's possible that Tennessee and Az. St. had the best D-lines (or at least best at producing chaos) we'll face all season. A&M is right there with them, but then after that things might normalize, at least a little. Hopefully that'll give the line a chance to correct some things. It's not like the schedule's too hard from here on out, right?

Context is our friend.

R2Dawg
09-29-2025, 07:32 PM
Interesting on 3 of our sacks just witnessed on SEC rewind.

Reese whiffed on block for one that Shapen was pasted.

2 of sacks UT end was two steps offsides which is why the DE got by our tackle. I didn't notice in the game but that was a major factor.

R2Dawg
09-29-2025, 07:35 PM
Trevion was a beast on several occasions as well. Tillman is looking like a player to deal with as well.

Tater
09-30-2025, 01:21 AM
Interesting on 3 of our sacks just witnessed on SEC rewind.

Reese whiffed on block for one that Shapen was pasted.

2 of sacks UT end was two steps offsides which is why the DE got by our tackle. I didn't notice in the game but that was a major factor.

From memory I saw plenty of times they were going on the clap. Was it really offsides or did they just have us timed? It felt like the latter.

bulldawg28
09-30-2025, 07:31 AM
The team is meshing and the playmakers are starting to rise to the top.

StarkVegasSteve
09-30-2025, 08:30 AM
Trevion was a beast on several occasions as well. Tillman is looking like a player to deal with as well.

Tillman is hell to deal with when he's coming on a blitz. He is going to be an X factor for us Saturday night. He's starting to free up guys like Trevion and DJ Reed because O Lines are having to account for him on every play now.

R2Dawg
09-30-2025, 08:38 AM
From memory I saw plenty of times they were going on the clap. Was it really offsides or did they just have us timed? It felt like the latter.

Replay was plain as day. I'm not going from memory and I couldn't see that from game seat because I wasn't sitting on LOS. TV replay showed it very good.

When the player is already at our OL butt before ball is snapped and OL has a chance to move - BIG advantage. No OL can block that guy moving. If we move to counter their offsides, they call us for false start.

R2Dawg
09-30-2025, 08:40 AM
Tillman is hell to deal with when he's coming on a blitz. He is going to be an X factor for us Saturday night. He's starting to free up guys like Trevion and DJ Reed because O Lines are having to account for him on every play now.

Tillman can move. He looked like a RB on that int return. Tillman must be used to rush on end. BamBam is reason for the UT OL false start late too. He is started to wake up. I mean Trevion has all the tools. He pressured QB a lot and ran down LOS on pursuit good too. I think we got some guys turning the corner.

Tater
09-30-2025, 02:15 PM
Replay was plain as day. I'm not going from memory and I couldn't see that from game seat because I wasn't sitting on LOS. TV replay showed it very good.

When the player is already at our OL butt before ball is snapped and OL has a chance to move - BIG advantage. No OL can block that guy moving. If we move to counter their offsides, they call us for false start.

Sounds like we need to institute a two clap snap.

R2Dawg
09-30-2025, 06:06 PM
Sounds like we need to institute a two clap snap.

Absolutely, should have in the UT game for sure.

Todd4State
09-30-2025, 10:48 PM
Interesting on 3 of our sacks just witnessed on SEC rewind.

Reese whiffed on block for one that Shapen was pasted.

2 of sacks UT end was two steps offsides which is why the DE got by our tackle. I didn't notice in the game but that was a major factor.

That wasn't Reese that whiffed. It was Lewis and James.

R2Dawg
10-01-2025, 12:10 PM
That wasn't Reese that whiffed. It was Lewis and James.

Yes it was on one play; saw 76 plain as day. You may have been talking about another play. Again all this was on SECN replay highlights. I didn't notice these things during game.