Dawgs v Vols

[maroonmania]

It was OPI but I'm shocked they called it.

[Maverick91]

We are owning them

[EdwardDrayton]

That Puke Orange sphincter is gettin' tight folks. We 'bout to put three quarters in the books.

[Maverick91]

This announcer wants Huepels D

lol facts

[Dawgology]

Thompson is out apparently

[msstate7]

That missed fg is ball game.

^^^

[DEDawg]

We are dropping like flies out here

[maroonmania]

So we've lost Reese, Thompson and Evans? What about Smith as well. Awful

[Maverick91]

I will say our WR need to learn to bow 🆙 and learn to block it ant for the faint of heart

[EdwardDrayton]

This announcer wants Huepels D

And a no gag reflex *****

[Dawgology]

So we've lost Reese, Thompson and Evans? What about Smith as well. Awful

Yeah. Not good

[msstate7]

Come on dawgs, put this ball in the end zone and put your foot on their neck

[Brobi-wan]

Evans looked okay coming off. Thompson…idk. Williams and Mosley about to have to step up

[EdwardDrayton]

Kudos to you guys who believed. I wanted to but was skeptical. We may not be quite there yet but this team can play.

[Dawgology]

Need a long sustained drive that eats clock and ends in points.

[Dawgology]

Evans looked okay coming off. Thompson…idk. Williams and Mosley about to have to step up

Did anyone see what happened to him?

[msstate7]

Next drive shapen has to hold the ball on that zone read

[Dawgology]

Holy shit!!

[Brobi-wan]

Did anyone see what happened to him?

He got abused by their DB on a block

[msstate7]

Online, go F yourself

[DEDawg]

That was disgusting

[Maverick91]

Loved the no targeting. He went high

[Brobi-wan]

I can’t believe he stood back up

[maroonmania]

Boy, we know how to get rid of momentum. With all the injuries and the lead should have just stayed on the ground where we were eating them up.

[Dawgology]

Yeah. Offense has spotted Tenn 14 points. That’s a guaranteed loss in the SEC

[1eyedog]

once again after the turnover the camera goes to the most overweight fat good ole boy they can find........at the other school they would have focused on the most beautiful female they could find......it’s so fing obvious

[Maverick91]

What a emotional roller coaster

[Dawgology]

Boy, we know how to get rid of momentum. With all the injuries and the lead should have just stayed on the ground where we were eating them up.

This. I understand Leb wants to put it in the air but Fluff is getting what he wants and we are limping with injuries. Smh

[DEDawg]

Yeah. Offense has spotted Tenn 14 points. That’s a guaranteed loss in the SEC

Giving up 200 yards rushing usually is too. Let?s see how this plays out.

[msstate7]

once again after the turnover the camera goes to the most overweight fat good ole boy they can find........at the other school they would have focused on the most beautiful female they could find......it’s so fing obvious

We just prob lost the game, and this is what you're thinking? WOW

[Brobi-wan]

Not over yet

[Maverick91]

once again after the turnover the camera goes to the most overweight fat good ole boy they can find........at the other school they would have focused on the most beautiful female they could find......it’s so fing obvious

Yeah. I got roasted a few years ago for bringing that up.

[Brobi-wan]

We just prob lost the game, and this is what you're thinking? WOW

His name is 1 eye. He’s just thinking with the trouser snake.

[EdwardDrayton]

Somehow it's still a three point game even with all the mistakes. Let's pull another ASU win!!!

[memsu06]

I love how there wasn't even a replay to see if the ball was actually out before Shapen went to the ground. Also, no targeting review either.

[civildawg]

They are jumping the snap count. Lebby has to start going on 2 or 3 some times

[msstate7]

I love how there wasn't even a replay to see if the ball was actually out before Shapen went to the ground. Also, no targeting review either.

It was a clean hit and fumble, unfortunately

[Bdawg]

Lewis proving today, he’s not it. I guess our OL is not really it though

[msstate7]

2nd and 10, and you basically tell em we running with the qb? Why? Let em throw it

[Bdawg]

Shapen can’t run for 8 yds against them! Come on!

[Bdawg]

2nd and 10, and you basically tell em we running with the qb? Why? Let em throw it

So infuriating. Wasted down if you don’t throw it some. Short yardage I get it.

[Ranchdawg]

These type of games wear me down!

[Ranchdawg]

That was all on Shapen! Stupid!

[EdwardDrayton]

We suspected Ferrie would be busy today. Tied with 10:30 to play. We ALL would have taken this before the game started.

[msstate7]

So infuriating. Wasted down if you don’t throw it some. Short yardage I get it.

Gotta hope he's setting it up for later

[1eyedog]

The game will be what is is......not happy if DOGS lose.....but i?M thinking of a larger view, out of state students, getting a leg up of the other school, and changing our horrible image of cow school in the eye of in state and out of state potential fanbase.....sorry you can?t see the larger picture.

[HaggardDawg]

Where his Kelly jones?

[1eyedog]

BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!

[Bdawg]

Gotta hope he's setting it up for later

Don’t wait till the last game

[1eyedog]

Dan Mullen.....incredible what a tight end can do.......!!!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

DAWGS!!!!

[msstate7]

Damn, this team can play

[Statecoachingblows**]

Wow, these guys are fightin!!

[Brobi-wan]

THE ENGLISHMAN

[1eyedog]

His name is 1 eye. He?s just thinking with the trouser snake.

No, prob thinking with my third eye.......the one the great minds talked about.......outside of the box...

[Brobi-wan]

“The British are coming”

[Maverick91]

Come on.... this is fun football. It's nice to see the boys with some backbone

[EdwardDrayton]

Glad Traore got it. He's improved his blocking to fill out his game.

[EdwardDrayton]

“The British are coming”

https://i.postimg.cc/TYvWGCVM/IMG-7958.webp (https://postimg.cc/nMTLGKS0)

[Bdawg]

THE ENGLISHMAN

Have some tea!!

[DEDawg]

No, prob thinking with my third eye.......the one the great minds talked about.......outside of the box...

Sounds like youre thinking about getting in the box

[1eyedog]

Thanks Coach Lebby....TY for bringing back DOG competitive football back......

[EdwardDrayton]

“The British are coming”

https://i.postimg.cc/TYvWGCVM/IMG-7958.webp (https://postimg.cc/nMTLGKS0)

:)

[msstate7]

Their qb is ass. They have great talent surrounding him

[1eyedog]

horrible tackling....inexcusable

[Activated Alpha]

Our defense is just flat out tired. Can they have one more goal line stand in them? I?m not holding my breath

[EdwardDrayton]

Who's gonna make the last play to win it.

[maroonmania]

Afraid that 4th and 4 will haunt us. Incredible catch on that by brazzell

[EdwardDrayton]

It's been one helluva game. I still think we take 'em. Let's git it!!!

[Brobi-wan]

Who's gonna make the last play to win it.
Us. This is our game. I refuse to not believe.

[1eyedog]

Sounds like youre thinking about getting in the box

I would expect better from DOG folks......

[maroonmania]

Our defense is just flat out tired. Can they have one more goal line stand in them? I?m not holding my breath

Yep, proud of them. They've only given up 13 points with 2 minutes left.

[msstate7]

Them scoring here wouldn't be the worse thing. Plenty of time to score

[1eyedog]

F

[msstate7]

I'm fine with this. Got plenty of time, but gotta get a 1st down at least

[Dawgology]

Well. That 14 points from the pick 6 and scoop and score is brutal

[1eyedog]

Time for the ‘DOGS”.....NOT dawgs......to win this game......we can do this....

[Brobi-wan]

This is Shapen’s time to show us that he is a mature 6th year guy

[maroonmania]

Well. That 14 points from the pick 6 and scoop and score is brutal

Yep, if you had told me that our offense would have given away 14 points and we would still have a chance I wouldn't have believed it.

[msstate7]

Gotta be smart here... I'm thinking run on 1st down. Can't go 3 and out

[EdwardDrayton]

OK Coach. Let Blake have it, win or lose.

[maroonmania]

Shapen looked horrible on those 3 plays.

[Maverick91]

Why did we not run the ball. That was dumb plenty of time with alll three of your timeouts

[civildawg]

Didn't run the ball one time?! Ballgame

[msstate7]

Shapen is a loser, period. All 3 passes were pathetic. Shapen, get lost, MF

[Brobi-wan]

Wow Blake

[Brobi-wan]

That was a loser drive

[DEDawg]

Blake is scared for some reason

[Bdawg]

Gotta be smart here... I'm thinking run on 1st down. Can't go 3 and out

We F’ed that up

[Statecoachingblows**]

Absolutely the one thing we couldn't do was go 3 and out in 20 seconds.

[civildawg]

Playcalling didn't help but yeah that was bad

[Saltydog]

Terrible series there. Left WAY too much time on the clock for a tired "D"..........

[Statecoachingblows**]

Come on D

[msstate7]

It's time to see the freshman at qb. Shapen shits his pants in big spots

[EdwardDrayton]

Shapen looked horrible on those 3 plays.

Just hoping he gets another shot in OT.

[Dawgology]

Well. They played hard but you can’t spot the #14 team 14 points. You just can’t. And that’s on Shapen

[Activated Alpha]

This is where we lose

[DEDawg]

Crazy no calls on the holds I?m seeing

[msstate7]

Heupel is the worst coach using TOs I've ever saw

[Brobi-wan]

3 runs and this game would’ve been in OT instead of the BS we did

[Really Clark?]

Well. They played hard but you can’t spot the #14 team 14 points. You just can’t. And that’s on Shapen

Can't really say 14 points was Shapen. 7 yes

[msstate7]

3 runs and this game would’ve been in OT instead of the BS we did

I'm fine with trying to win it. Shapen is thrash tho

[1eyedog]

del

[Dawgology]

Can't really say 14 points was Shapen. 7 yes

At the end of the day he threw a pick 6. Then he also fumbled for the scoop and score. Yes. He got hit hard but still you just can’t cough it up like that.

[msstate7]

Heupel is the worst coach using TOs I've ever saw

^^* he's the Shapen or coaches when it comes to time management

[EdwardDrayton]

Thank the Lord, Hupetee doesn't have a clue. :)

[Brobi-wan]

I'm fine with trying to win it. Shapen is thrash tho

I agree, but with 1:55 and three time outs, you have time to hand it to Fluff

[msstate7]

Are we stupid? 4 secs is too much time to play prevent

[bulldawg28]

We've got to rush at least 4 this last play

[Bdawg]

Heupel is the worst coach using TOs I've ever saw

That was the worst ever!! My God but thank God!

[Dawgology]

I'm fine with trying to win it. Shapen is thrash tho

He’s an average QB at best. We shouldn’t have let Van Buren walk. Shapen has an ok arm but he wilts in the big games. It takes a special QB to rise up to the occasion in the big games

[civildawg]

We all know how this ends right?

[Brobi-wan]

We all know how this ends right?

Yeah, 5-0

[DEDawg]

He’s an average QB at best. We shouldn’t have let Van Buren walk. Shapen has an ok arm but he wilts in the big games. It takes a special QB to rise up to the occasion in the big games

He did against ASU didn?t he?

[EdwardDrayton]

We 'won' the four quarters guys!!! We ALL would of taken that before the start!! Let's finish it!!!

[mparkerfd20]

Welp

[msstate7]

IF we score, go for 2. Our D is done

[Brobi-wan]

Ouch

[msstate7]

Get the TD!
Go for 2!

[msstate7]

Shapen is f'n horrible. That was mistake

[Brobi-wan]

Let’s goooooo

[msstate7]

Freshman qb, come on down!

[msstate7]

How much more you gotta see, Lebby? F, Shapen ain't it

[msstate7]

Shapen is aids! Bench that POS

[EdwardDrayton]

It's clear Lebby is conflicted about Shapen with his playcalling. We need that QB who can take us to the next level.

[bulldawg28]

Shapen has to do better.

[Brobi-wan]

That’s on Shapen

[Dawgology]

Hit him in the damn hands. Good grief

[DEDawg]

Awful play calling. Lebby called a great game then lost it in OT

[EdwardDrayton]

Props to our Dawgs. No doubt the polls were pitifully wrong not ranking us.

[msstate7]

Shapen is a f'n loser

[Maverick91]

Great job boys! We just didn't make the plays to win. We can win this year and I hope they know that.

[TrapGame]

I ain?t mad.

That was a good game.

[msstate7]

Shapen has to do better.

Nah, he has to ride pine. He lost that game. He had his shot. Let's see the future

[bulldawg28]

Dude was open on 3rd down. Of course Shapen wants to pull it down and run it.

[Bothrops]

Needed this one to get to a bowl

[civildawg]

Ended in heartbreak just like I knew it would

[msstate7]

Great job boys! We just didn't make the plays to win. We can win this year and I hope they know that.

Shapen didn't make plays. He lost it

[Dawgology]

Dude was open on 3rd down. Of course Shapen wants to pull it down and run it.

This. He’s just not an SEC QB

[msstate7]

Dude was open on 3rd down. Of course Shapen wants to pull it down and run it.

He took a dive. Only explanation for his last 2 drives

[Dawgology]

Needed this one to get to a bowl

Nah. I think we can beat 2 of Arkansas, Texas, and Florida.

[msstate7]

We played well. We're an ok team. Bench Shapen and we could be pretty good by year's end

[mparkerfd20]

Loss on Shapen

[msstate7]

Loss on Shapen

^^^ bench his ass

[EdwardDrayton]

It's not on Shapen. We made too many mistakes. He is not a QB who will carry us when we make too many mistakes. We're close but Lebby needs to fix the mistakes. So far he resembles a Mike McCarthy who can't seem to get it done.

[Bdawg]

Dude was open on 3rd down. Of course Shapen wants to pull it down and run it.

That was awful

[Brobi-wan]

This. He’s just not an SEC QB

Hate to agree. Not sure that Arnold would be a massive improvement, but it would add a better dynamic in the red zone O

[Activated Alpha]

We played well. We're an ok team. Bench Shapen and we could be pretty good by year's end

Who are we going to roll with?

[Bdawg]

Shapen didn't make plays. He lost it

We lost in the trenches too. We are not good enough there. But we have improved a lot

[Saltydog]

Typical State.........The more things change, the more they stay the same........We lead the nation in moral victories........

[msstate7]

It's not on Shapen. We made too many mistakes. He is not a QB who will carry us when we make too many mistakes. We're close but Lebby needs to fix the mistakes. So far he resembles a Mike McCarthy who can't seem to get it done.

The last 2 drives were freaking awful. Every pass was bad. The completion to get 1st and goal was a bad pass that happened to get caught by us. He lost the game, period

[DEDawg]

Some really dumb posts in here the last page or two

[Bothrops]

Nah. I think we can beat 2 of Arkansas, Texas, and Florida.

We won't play this hard on the road

[msstate7]

Who are we going to roll with?

The freshman. Let em get experience. No way he's worse than Shapen. At least he can move chains with his legs

[civildawg]

The last 2 drives were freaking awful. Every pass was bad. The completion to get 1st and goal was a bad pass that happened to get caught by us. He lost the game, period

This is correct. We should have did the read option for 4 plays at the 5 with Taylor and fluff

[Bdawg]

It's not on Shapen. We made too many mistakes. He is not a QB who will carry us when we make too many mistakes. We're close but Lebby needs to fix the mistakes. So far he resembles a Mike McCarthy who can't seem to get it done.

We have to many penalties for sure but Shapen made his share of mistakes

[Brobi-wan]

Be what it be. Onto the other maroon team

[parabrave]

Gonna learn how to win games like these.

[msstate7]

Some really dumb posts in here the last page or two

Yeah, Shapen was great. F'n Montana out there missing on all 7 of his last passes. No way I give him credit for an overthrow that happened to be complete

[BravesDoggy]

Fire Lebbro and Kyle Ferrie

[1eyedog]

Are we stupid? 4 secs is too much time to play prevent

Bellard has several, Sherrill has at least one, l EB loses they would disagree........and they were proven wrong.

[msstate7]

Bellard has several, Sherrill has at least one, l EB loses they would disagree........and they were proven wrong.

Heupel is dumb. If he throws it to the slot wr as soon as it was snapped, they get 10 yards and call a TO... long fg att

[EdwardDrayton]

We have to many penalties for sure but Shapen made his share of mistakes

Yes but we knew who Blake is coming in. No surprise there. Lebby needs to fix the mistakes overall. We don't have another QB who is ready to give us more at that position.

[EdwardDrayton]

Gonna learn how to win games like these.

^^^^^

[DawgFromOxford]

Some really dumb posts in here the last page or two

Facts. 99% of the posts in the game prediction were for us to lose, most by double digits and we came up 5 yards short. Shapen isn?t an all American but dang he was getting rocked all night in the pocket. If Shapen is sharper we probably win. If the o line is sharper we probably win. If the defense was sharper we probably win. To act like benching Shapen is the answer because we lost in OT to a playoff team is wild

Take a breath and enjoy the fact that this team is light years ahead of last season!

[msstate7]

Yes but we knew who Blake is coming in. No surprise there. Lebby needs to fix the mistakes overall. We don't have another QB who is ready to give us more at that position.

This season is a just bowl or bust. Let the freshman take his lumps. He will be better next year with experience

[parabrave]

^^^ bench his ass

1st bench Lewis cause he got Shapen killed tonite. The kid just can't pass block. Now Reese is hurt and it looked serious.

[Maverick91]

Competitive frustration is what that is. Non of those boys should hang their head. That is purely "give me one more play"

[msstate7]

Facts. 99% of the posts in the game prediction were for us to lose, most by double digits and we came up 5 yards short. Shapen isn?t an all American but dang he was getting rocked all night in the pocket. If Shapen is sharper we probably win. If the o line is sharper we probably win. If the defense was sharper we probably win. To act like benching Shapen is the answer because we lost in OT to a playoff team is wild

Take a breath and enjoy the fact that this team is light years ahead of last season!

Anyone blaming is the D is brain dead. Seriously herpes on the brain

[bulldawg28]

We abandoned the run game too soon in the 2nd half. Booth needs to play more.

[msstate7]

1st bench Lewis cause he got Shapen killed tonite. The kid just can't pass block. Now Reese is hurt and it looked serious.

At nut cutting time, he had time every pass and missed them all

[BuckyIsAB****]

Nah, he has to ride pine. He lost that game. He had his shot. Let's see the future

I 1000000 percent agree. He was bad vs Alcorn and NIU

[BravesDoggy]

Good grief. If you think that Taylor is ready AT ALL just stop being a fan. You are delusional

[StarkVegasSteve]

A few of things:

1. The Ferrie miss was massive in hindsight.

2. We are going to win 5 no matter who the QB is, go with Kamario and see what he can give you at this point. Shapen is not going to win you any games and he may well lose one. He is the better QB at the present moment but Kamario has a much higher ceiling. You are not making the playoffs anyways so play Kamario and see what he can do well, needs to work on, etc so we know for next year.

3. Hutzler has improved by leaps and bounds and so has our D but our inability to wrap up late cost us. We would have had them 4 and 3 or 4 with the game on the line and we let the WR weasel out of it to a 1st down.

4. If Manning picks off the Hail Mary we may win. There was nothing but green grass ahead and he had a 10 yd head start on anyone who could have caught him.

[DawgFromOxford]

Anyone blaming is the D is brain dead. Seriously herpes on the brain

The D played great. But they also got 42 hung them and on TN last touchdown drive couldn?t make the plays to keep TN out of the end zone. Not sure how that?s any different than Shapen not scoring in OT.

[msstate7]

Good grief. If you think that Taylor is ready AT ALL just stop being a fan. You are delusional

How do you get ready? Playing! Shapen isn't shit

[Dawgface]

Yes but we knew who Blake is coming in. No surprise there. Lebby needs to fix the mistakes overall. We don't have another QB who is ready to give us more at that position.

True. Those calling for the benching of Shapen are nuts. I don?t have a problem working Taylor in a little more.

[Bothrops]

A few of things:

1. The Ferrie miss was massive in hindsight.

2. We are going to win 5 no matter who the QB is, go with Kamario and see what he can give you at this point. Shapen is not going to win you any games and he may well lose one. He is the better QB at the present moment but Kamario has a much higher ceiling. You are not making the playoffs anyways so play Kamario and see what he can do well, needs to work on, etc so we know for next year.

3. Hutzler has improved by leaps and bounds and so has our D but our inability to wrap up late cost us. We would have had them 4 and 3 or 4 with the game on the line and we let the WR weasel out of it to a 1st down.

4. If Manning picks off the Hail Mary we may win. There was nothing but green grass ahead and he had a 10 yd head start on anyone who could have caught him.

Agreed that hail Mary was a missed opportunity

[Brobi-wan]

I agree with you guys that Shapen is the better QB overall, but he is at his ceiling and Taylor’s RS is burned. Why not just let him start? He’s going to grow and Shapen is going to go. If we’re playing for the future, what does it hurt?

[msstate7]

The D played great. But they also got 42 hung them and on TN last touchdown drive couldn?t make the plays to keep TN out of the end zone. Not sure how that?s any different than Shapen not scoring in OT.

If you didn't watch, just say so. They gave up 27 in regulation

[Maverick91]

We won't play this hard on the road

Why the crap would we not. You think Lebby just isn't going to care because it's a road game?

[msstate7]

I agree with you guys that Shapen is the better QB overall, but he is at his ceiling and Taylor’s RS is burned. Why not just let him start? He’s going to grow and Shapen is going to go. If we’re playing for the future, what does it hurt?

^^^

[StarkVegasSteve]

The D played great. But they also got 42 hung them and on TN last touchdown drive couldn?t make the plays to keep TN out of the end zone. Not sure how that?s any different than Shapen not scoring in OT.

They got 27 hung on them. And 20 in regulation. Tennessee had 2 defensive TDs. Our D played well enough to win by 3 TDs. The O Line pass blocking and Shapen lost that one.

[EdwardDrayton]

A few of things:

1. The Ferrie miss was massive in hindsight.

2. We are going to win 5 no matter who the QB is, go with Kamario and see what he can give you at this point. Shapen is not going to win you any games and he may well lose one. He is the better QB at the present moment but Kamario has a much higher ceiling. You are not making the playoffs anyways so play Kamario and see what he can do well, needs to work on, etc so we know for next year.

3. Hutzler has improved by leaps and bounds and so has our D but our inability to wrap up late cost us. We would have had them 4 and 3 or 4 with the game on the line and we let the WR weasel out of it to a 1st down.

4. If Manning picks off the Hail Mary we may win. There was nothing but green grass ahead and he had a 10 yd head start on anyone who could have caught him.

Respectfully SVS, Lebby needs to impose discipline and clean up the mistakes. Roll with Blake, get to 6 and go bowling. We can still get there. KT is not ready.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If you didn't watch, just say so. They gave up 27 in regulation

Apparently you did not either. They gave up 20 in regulation. It was 34 all at the end of regulation and we had given them a pick 6 and a scoop and score.

[msstate7]

They got 27 hung on them. And 20 in regulation. Tennessee had 2 defensive TDs. Our D played well enough to win by 3 TDs. The O Line pass blocking and Shapen lost that one.

Yep, it was 20, not 27. Hero gave em 14, and some here would take up for him no matter what

[msstate7]

Apparently you did not either. They gave up 20 in regulation. It was 34 all at the end of regulation and we had given them a pick 6 and a scoop and score.

lol, I drink a little

[StarkVegasSteve]

Respectfully SVS, Lebby needs to impose discipline and clean up the mistakes. Roll with Blake, get to 6 and go bowling. We can still get there. KT is not ready.

I do not disagree about the discipline thing. We have far too many penalties, and back breaking ones at that, but Shapen is not going to get us 6 unless he elevates his game to a level we have never seen from him. He is what he is at this point, a game manager. He would be the perfect QB for the 2015 Bama team, but he is not for the 2025 Mississippi State team.

And I am not trying to come down on Shapen. I said earlier he is the better QB right now. But play the potential. You are not making the playoffs and you are going to win 5 no matter what. Play Shapen next week at A&M and let him have his swan song and then make the switch in the bye week.

[msstate7]

I do not disagree about the discipline thing. We have far too many penalties, and back breaking ones at that, but Shapen is not going to get us 6 unless he elevates his game to a level we have never seen from him. He is what he is at this point, a game manager. He would be the perfect QB for the 2015 Bama team, but he is not for the 2025 Mississippi State team.

^^^

[MStateME13]

I agree with you guys that Shapen is the better QB overall, but he is at his ceiling and Taylor’s RS is burned. Why not just let him start? He’s going to grow and Shapen is going to go. If we’re playing for the future, what does it hurt?

We should at least see a lot more KT. Our OL actually run blocks pretty well - lean into our strength and have KT/Fluff/Booth run with short throws and occasional deep shots. KT would mitigate some of our OL pass blocking issues with his mobility too. Our offense would probably be at least similar to what we have now, and definitely better in the redzone.

[Maverick91]

Respectfully SVS, Lebby needs to impose discipline and clean up the mistakes. Roll with Blake, get to 6 and go bowling. We can still get there. KT is not ready.

I can agree with this. The penalties are inexcusable, not picking off that Hail Mary is inexcusable.

[Mjoelner34]

Back from the game with 4 things:
1. Fluff is a MO-FO!
2. We are an average offensive line away from putting up 10 or 20 more a game. Horrific pass protection and not many open holes in the running game.
3. Run D is a LOT better than we thought it was going to be (they were gassed late in the game). Pass D is what we thought it was going to be. USM and Ariz. St. had athletes playing QB, NIU had multiple guys open deep last week and QB couldn't hit them. He did hit one for what would have been a TD but dude bobbled it backwards for an int. Thank you Heupel for trying to run the ball so much. You would have scored 70 going 80/20 pass run.
4. Fluff is a MO-FO! Worth saying twice.

[DawgFromOxford]

If you didn't watch, just say so. They gave up 27 in regulation

Ok my b. 14 were off turnovers congrats

[Thick]

If any of you think KT is going to do better then Shapen?..well, you bitches are going to really bitch when he gets pressured or a disguised coverage confuses the feck out of him. He played at Noxubee High last year. Do you really think he?s ready for SEC defenses coached by SEC/ D1 DCs?..seriously? That?s why you guys are on message boards and are not coaching at any level of college football. He?s not ready for a LOT of reasons!

[msstate7]

Ok my b. 14 were off turnovers congrats

20 in regulation vs Tenn is outstanding. Shapen gave em 14

[Bothrops]

Folks we shouldn't have been in this game tonight. This was an exceptional effort by the team. Mistakes are part of who we are.

[msstate7]

If any of you think KT is going to do better then Shapen?..well, you bitches are going to really bitch when he gets pressured or a disguised coverage confuses the feck out of him. He played at Noxubee High last year. Do you really think he?s ready for SEC defenses coached by SEC/ D1 DCs?..seriously? That?s why you guys are on message boards and are not coaching at any level of college football. He?s not ready for a LOT of reasons!

Us that want him have said we know he isn't ready. We just know this is a lost season where him gaining experience is a good thing. Hell if he played, he might have gifted Tenn 14 pts like Shapen, coach

[Thick]

Again?.if he was remotely ready, don?t you think the HC/OC would know from his experience in D1 football. My God?.you guys are really 17ing oblivious!

[Todd4State]

Us that want him have said we know he isn't ready. We just know this is a lost season where him gaining experience is a good thing. Hell if he played, he might have gifted Tenn 14 pts like Shapen, coach

How the **** is this a lost season? We're 4-1 and we have Florida and Arkansas left. And we just gave away a game to a top whatever team and gave them everything they wanted.

Just bullshit comment by you.

[smootness]

Ok my b. 14 were off turnovers congrats

LOL dude, you cannot be that wrong and then try to play it off like nothing.

They never even scored 42 total, it was 41?7 of which were OT?and 14 of which were with the defense off the field. Nice going!

[Todd4State]

Again?.if he was remotely ready, don?t you think the HC/OC would know from his experience in D1 football. My God?.you guys are really 17ing oblivious!

He has thrown what? Three passes all year. If he starts our offense is literally going to be QB run and Fluff.

I have yet to see him go through a progression read yet to this point. But we have fans that think he should start because he can run and throw it a mile.

[msstate7]

How the **** is this a lost season? We're 4-1 and we have Florida and Arkansas left. And we just gave away a game to a top whatever team and gave them everything they wanted.

Just bullshit comment by you.

I think the freshman if he took over now would be better than Shapen by game 10. Shapen has a big part in this lost, and if he isn't elevating us, why is he a better option? Take the lumps this season, not next

[DEDawg]

How the **** is this a lost season? We're 4-1 and we have Florida and Arkansas left. And we just gave away a game to a top whatever team and gave them everything they wanted.

Just bullshit comment by you.

7 is in his midseason form lol

[Vandownbytheriver]

7 is in his midseason form lol

If he doesn’t have a weed card, he could use one.

[Bothrops]

I think the freshman if he took over now would be better than Shapen by game 10. Shapen has a big part in this lost, and if he isn't elevating us, why is he a better option? Take the lumps this season, not next

Shapen is limited but he has the experience. Next year will be a completely different roster and that probably won't be a good thing. Taylor will be training on the fly next season. If we go to a bowl it will be a miracle.

[parabrave]

Us that want him have said we know he isn't ready. We just know this is a lost season where him gaining experience is a good thing. Hell if he played, he might have gifted Tenn 14 pts like Shapen, coach

Now guys 7 is having a bad year with the Braves sucking and the Aints about to go winless so we will give him a break this year. Heck if I'm correct he was ecstatic when Carr got signed with the saint so it's been spiraling for the last 3 years..

[Thick]

Exactly Todd! If we don?t miss a fg or Thompson doesn?t drop a TD pass in the bread basket, guess what. We would be celebrating a W! Shapen is not perfect, but the dude throws a great deep ball, and we ran the ball tonight vs a much more talented defense that we have faced this year. We should have won this game! Don?t go after Shapen though, bc KT would not have done ANY better!

[AlSwearengen]

We need a big wr for possession plays and in the red zone; it would also give Shapen a security blanket. The little guys are good in the open, but they aren’t going to body up defenders and outmuscle them for the ball in tight situations.

[DownwardDawg]

Nah. I think we can beat 2 of Arkansas, Texas, and Florida.

We are beating ole Miss in Starkville.

[Thick]

I think the freshman if he took over now would be better than Shapen by game 10. Shapen has a big part in this lost, and if he isn't elevating us, why is he a better option? Take the lumps this season, not next

You must be drunk!

[Todd4State]

I think the freshman if he took over now would be better than Shapen by game 10. Shapen has a big part in this lost, and if he isn't elevating us, why is he a better option? Take the lumps this season, not next

Yeah. Because QB's "taking lumps" has worked so well for us in the past. I remember when we did that with Dak- oh wait no we didn't.

KT can't read a defense period. Not as well as Shapen at this point. Shapen gives us a much better chance to win. Yes, Shapen's pocket awareness sucks. His offensive line also sucked tonight. His receivers and tight ends sucked too for the most part. His pick six was because of a TE who ****s up majorly at least once every game tipped the pass he should have caught.

Right now KT is Mike Wright with actual upside and without that stupid hat he used to wear.

[EdwardDrayton]

I do not disagree about the discipline thing. We have far too many penalties, and back breaking ones at that, but Shapen is not going to get us 6 unless he elevates his game to a level we have never seen from him. He is what he is at this point, a game manager. He would be the perfect QB for the 2015 Bama team, but he is not for the 2025 Mississippi State team.

And I am not trying to come down on Shapen. I said earlier he is the better QB right now. But play the potential. You are not making the playoffs and you are going to win 5 no matter what. Play Shapen next week at A&M and let him have his swan song and then make the switch in the bye week.

38 seconds. 58 yards. Brenen Thompson. Win. Shapen has the wherewithal to win a game.

[parabrave]

We are beating ole Miss in Starkville.

We should beat Arky and be in play for every remaining game.

[Todd4State]

You must be drunk!

We really have fans that honestly think that there is no difference between playing QB at Nocubee HS and in the SEC. It's the only logical conclusion I can come up with at this point.

[msstate7]

We are beating ole Miss in Starkville.

Not with Shapen

[bulldawg28]

Exactly Todd! If we don?t miss a fg or Thompson doesn?t drop a TD pass in the bread basket, guess what. We would be celebrating a W! Shapen is not perfect, but the dude throws a great deep ball, and we ran the ball tonight vs a much more talented defense that we have faced this year. We should have won this game! Don?t go after Shapen though, bc KT would not have done ANY better!

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

[EdwardDrayton]

We are beating ole Miss in Starkville.

I'm on board Down.

[Mjoelner34]

One thing all of yall will agree on is this. Pulliam has Punter locked up. 5 punts with a 50.6 avg.

[StarkVegasSteve]

38 seconds. 58 yards. Brenen Thompson. Win. Shapen has the wherewithal to win a game.

So when a team blows coverage he has the wherewithal to take advantage of the mistake. Congrats. He is a FBS QB. No one is saying that RIGHT NOW Shapen is not the better QB. But if you are going to win 5 anyways, you are not going to the playoffs, and you have what most believe to be the QB of the future right there you take your lumps and play him. He is going to make some mistakes? Yep. Is he going to be perfect? Nope. But he will not take away anything from the offense and he gives you a legit dual threat guy.

[Todd4State]

I do not disagree about the discipline thing. We have far too many penalties, and back breaking ones at that, but Shapen is not going to get us 6 unless he elevates his game to a level we have never seen from him. He is what he is at this point, a game manager. He would be the perfect QB for the 2015 Bama team, but he is not for the 2025 Mississippi State team.

And I am not trying to come down on Shapen. I said earlier he is the better QB right now. But play the potential. You are not making the playoffs and you are going to win 5 no matter what. Play Shapen next week at A&M and let him have his swan song and then make the switch in the bye week.

Shapen is just streaky. He might get hot next week for all we know. Playing KT right now would be a bad idea. We need to put some kind of simple pass plays in for him. We can't just run the ball every time and win.

[msstate7]

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

You must be drunk!

Let's be drunk together and go with the freshman

[StarkVegasSteve]

We are beating ole Miss in Starkville.

Agree. We beat them to give them loss number 3 and keep them out of thr playoff. Then we will all migrate to The Hump?..for hoops?.and watch us beat SMU by half a hundred.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Shapen is just streaky. He might get hot next week for all we know. Playing KT right now would be a bad idea. We need to put some kind of simple pass plays in for him. We can't just run the ball every time and win.

It is deep ball or check down for Shapen. He was 18/29 for 180 yds today. And if you take away the one deep ball to Ayden he is 17/28 for 131.

[EdwardDrayton]

So when a team blows coverage he has the wherewithal to take advantage of the mistake. Congrats. He is a FBS QB. No one is saying that RIGHT NOW Shapen is not the better QB. But if you are going to win 5 anyways, you are not going to the playoffs, and you have what most believe to be the QB of the future right there you take your lumps and play him. He is going to make some mistakes? Yep. Is he going to be perfect? Nope. But he will not take away anything from the offense and he gives you a legit dual threat guy.

Blown coverage against the fastest guy in football. The definition of perspective.

[SailingDawg]

What happened? Did we win?

[basedog]

We are still a work in progress. Much improved and so is our coaching stuff. Yes we made mistakes but big thing is keep recruiting and get some talent.

Positive was we didn’t quit, negative we looked really tired the last 5minutes of the regulation. Injuries played a part of us losing tonight.

[DEDawg]

So when a team blows coverage he has the wherewithal to take advantage of the mistake. Congrats. He is a FBS QB. No one is saying that RIGHT NOW Shapen is not the better QB. But if you are going to win 5 anyways, you are not going to the playoffs, and you have what most believe to be the QB of the future right there you take your lumps and play him. He is going to make some mistakes? Yep. Is he going to be perfect? Nope. But he will not take away anything from the offense and he gives you a legit dual threat guy.

doesn't make sense with where we are. We HAVE to get to a bowl this year after starting 4-0. We HAVE to be competitive in all our games and put points on the board so we can get back in the portal and recruiting game. Putting KT in there to "learn" as a true freshman doesn't get it done.

[DownwardDawg]

How the **** is this a lost season? We're 4-1 and we have Florida and Arkansas left. And we just gave away a game to a top whatever team and gave them everything they wanted.

Just bullshit comment by you.

We're winning 3 more after what I saw today.

[EdwardDrayton]

We're winning 3 more after what I saw today.

^^^^^

Florida, Missouri, Ole Miss, Arkansas all in play

We just need two

[Thick]

Quick question for the board. Did you see the amount of orange on the east side of DWS? It looked like a neutral site game. What are we doing with ticket sales? You want?em, we sell them to you. Way too many visitors in our house! That crap needs to stop. Don?t know how, but it needs to be addressed asap!

[EdwardDrayton]

1:1. 2:1. 1:2. Doesn't matter. We're close. Two more. Just win.

[Thick]

So when a team blows coverage he has the wherewithal to take advantage of the mistake. Congrats. He is a FBS QB. No one is saying that RIGHT NOW Shapen is not the better QB. But if you are going to win 5 anyways, you are not going to the playoffs, and you have what most believe to be the QB of the future right there you take your lumps and play him. He is going to make some mistakes? Yep. Is he going to be perfect? Nope. But he will not take away anything from the offense and he gives you a legit dual threat guy.

Yeah right! He?s from Macon, MS. Played in a low level, low football IQ conference, and he?s going to step in and be ?somewhat? productive in the best collegiate conference in the country vs the best DC?s in NCAA football. Tell me how much it cost to go to Starkville for a football weekend. Nobody?s willing to waste their money on a ?freshman experiment? in the NIL era! We would have lost by 3 TD?s with him running the offense tonight. MS high school football is not a spring board for players to start their freshman year in this conference! There?s absolutely no one you can use as an example at the QB position to make that argument! Dak was not ready as freshman, neither was Tebow.

[Thick]

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

If that were true, then wouldn?t Lebby start KT?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah right! He?s from Macon, MS. Played in a low level, low football IQ conference, and he?s going to step in and be ?somewhat? productive in the best collegiate conference in the country vs the best DC?s in NCAA football. Tell me how much it cost to go to Starkville for a football weekend. Nobody?s willing to waste their money on a ?freshman experiment? in the NIL era! We would have lost by 3 TD?s with him running the offense tonight. MS high school football is not a spring board for players to start their freshman year in this conference! There?s absolutely no one you can use as an example at the QB position to make that argument! Dak was not ready as freshman, neither was Tebow.

Well then let’s just send him down the river. Obviously he will have to drop down a level, probably 2-3, since he sucks and would never improve with playing time.

[Thick]

KT wouldn't have done worse. Shapen spotted them 14 points and couldn't make the plays he wanted with his feet. Shapen isn't throwing anyone open and is only throwing to wide open guys. Lebby does a fabulous jobs of putting defenses into a crisis and man coverage. I honestly think KT would produce similar results with this scheme.

Do you really think a kid from Noxubee county that is by far the best athlete on the field on any given night can step on an SEC field and produce wins in this conference as the leader of the offense??? The game is so much faster and physical than playing MS high school football, it?s not even comparable. KT has got the POTENTIAL to be good, maybe great (at MSU), but he?s not mentally capable of leading an SEC team his true freshman year. All it takes is one solid hit, and he?s questioning his abilities. It?s maturity first, athleticism and God?s gift come in second!

[Thick]

Well then let’s just send him down the river. Obviously he will have to drop down a level, probably 2-3, since he sucks and would never improve with playing time.

You just don?t get it bc you?ve never played at that level. A HS qb can read coverages somewhat at a high school level, but SEC is way different. It?s not even comparable. I like your informational posts, but REAL football posts are not your forte. Start KT vs FL, aTm, GA, OM, Texas and guess what, everyone of you on this board will throwing his ass under the bus for bad decisions/results. MS high school football is not going to prepare ANY qb to be be a starter as a true freshman?.PERIOD!!!! You can?t win that argument EVER! The only thing you will win is the bitchfest that will follow!

[Thick]

Let?s be clear as well, Shapen is not quick making decisions, but his experience at this level makes a difference. KT is used to getting hit by smaller less physical players in high school. When he tucks it and runs, then gets lit up a few times by some grown ass men in the SEC. That ?scrambling/making things happen with his feet? will be tempered down a bit, especially if he realizes that he doesn?t like being hit by more physical defenders. The mental/physical aspect of playing in the SEC is real, and it can ruin a player.

[LC Dawg]

Quick question for the board. Did you see the amount of orange on the east side of DWS? It looked like a neutral site game. What are we doing with ticket sales? You want?em, we sell them to you. Way too many visitors in our house! That crap needs to stop. Don?t know how, but it needs to be addressed asap!

I sit in Section 19 and there was way too much orange and I hear the upper deck was much worse. I hope the State fans that sold them their tickets choke on the money.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Let?s be clear as well, Shapen is not quick making decisions, but his experience at this level makes a difference. KT is used to getting hit by smaller less physical players in high school. When he tucks it and runs, then gets lit up a few times by some grown ass men in the SEC. That ?scrambling/making things happen with his feet? will be tempered down a bit, especially if he realizes that he doesn?t like being hit by more physical defenders. The mental/physical aspect of playing in the SEC is real, and it can ruin a player.

No one is saying that Kamario is better than Blake right now, at least I have not seen it. What most are saying is that you are winning 5 regardless because Parker Puckett could start against Arky and just hand the ball off and we would win. So why not give Kamario the reps now and get him ready to go next year. And hell, you may steal 1-2 because no one has any film on him. Are we going to take our lumps? Yes. But guess what, we are going to take them with Blake too.

[Thick]

I sit in Section 19 and there was way too much orange and I hear the upper deck was much worse. I hope the State fans that sold them their tickets choke on the money.

Watch the play back if you get a chance. Lots of orange on the east side?..everywhere!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Watch the play back if you get a chance. Lots of orange on the east side?..everywhere!

Tennessee fans had us outnumbered 55:45 unfortunately. The East side was 75:25 UT fans.

[tcdog70]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

[Thick]

No one is saying that Kamario is better than Blake right now, at least I have not seen it. What most are saying is that you are winning 5 regardless because Parker Puckett could start against Arky and just hand the ball off and we would win. So why not give Kamario the reps now and get him ready to go next year. And hell, you may steal 1-2 because no one has any film on him. Are we going to take our lumps? Yes. But guess what, we are going to take them with Blake too.

Nobody wants to spend the weekend in Starkville for a freaking freshman experiment when the portal is available for immediate ROI. Jesus, where in the 17 have you been lately? ?It?s not what can you do for me in the future, it?s what can you do for me NOW!!? Nobody wants to drop a grand a weekend for football/baseball for future gains. They want immediate ROI. Welcome to collegiate sports!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nobody wants to spend the weekend in Starkville for a freaking freshman experiment when the portal is available for immediate ROI. Jesus, where in the 17 have you been lately? ?It?s not what can you do for me in the future, it?s what can you do for me NOW!!? Nobody wants to drop a grand a weekend for football/baseball for future gains. They want immediate ROI. Welcome to collegiate sports!

No one wants to drop a grand to lose with Shapen either. It least with Taylor we can sell hope.

[parabrave]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

Also had 3 future NFLers on the team with one of our best defenses ever.

[Todd4State]

It is deep ball or check down for Shapen. He was 18/29 for 180 yds today. And if you take away the one deep ball to Ayden he is 17/28 for 131.

Well with KT you can take away the other 28 attempts because they would all be scrambles.

[Todd4State]

The only time MSU ever beat a #1 team , we did it with a Freshman QB.there is nothing Shapen can do that Kamario can’t do better.

Yeah. In 1980.

[Todd4State]

No one wants to drop a grand to lose with Shapen either. It least with Taylor we can sell hope.

No. What will happen is he will look lost and lose more games. And then fans will start to say that he is a bust.

I've seen this story play out time and time again for MSU football.

Except for Dak who we redshirted first. And then he was the back up for year and a half or so. And then he started.

Hell the two turnovers weren't even his fault. Why not bench West who has at least one major **** up a game at TE? He should have caught that pass that was picked. And why not bench the tackle that got worked when Shapen fumbled?

[Bothrops]

Quick question for the board. Did you see the amount of orange on the east side of DWS? It looked like a neutral site game. What are we doing with ticket sales? You want?em, we sell them to you. Way too many visitors in our house! That crap needs to stop. Don?t know how, but it needs to be addressed asap!

They brought about 12-13,000 fans from the looks of it. Our fan base is smaller than it was 10 years ago.

[Todd4State]

They brought about 12-13,000 fans from the looks of it. Our fan base is smaller than it was 10 years ago.

This is a major issue. I don't know what we can do about it though.