Lebby

[AlSwearengen]

I?m seeing a pretty good coach. The team looks pretty disciplined, which is the first thing I look for. I had multiple fans of other schools telling me last year that they thought he was a good coach and needed time.

If anyone should have known that he had no chance with last year?s roster, it should have been State fans; but there were more than enough bitching about him and Selmon. Now, it is looking like both might be pretty good.

[MetEdDawg]

What I liked yesterday is that he kept the team engaged in what could be considered a throw away game by rolling in a lot of new formations early. Mixed up personnel packages, did some off the wall stuff. And he was throwing deep shots early.

Best way to keep a team engaged off a big emotional win is to do all those things.

Lebby seems to have a plan. We still don't have the talent across the board to compete consistently. But Lebby coaches our players and he seems to have the balance of being able to do all the things.

[BravesDoggy]

What I liked yesterday is that he kept the team engaged in what could be considered a throw away game by rolling in a lot of new formations early. Mixed up personnel packages, did some off the wall stuff. And he was throwing deep shots early.

Best way to keep a team engaged off a big emotional win is to do all those things.

Lebby seems to have a plan. We still don't have the talent across the board to compete consistently. But Lebby coaches our players and he seems to have the balance of being able to do all the things.

Depends on what you mean by compete consistently. We are 3-0 on the verge of 4-0 for the first time in almost a decade. This offense has as much if not more firepower than any we have ever had. That’s not saying much but Shapen, fluff, Booth, Evans and Thompson are all very very good.

We will see on the defense but they are night and day from last year. They should be good enough to compete against most except maybe A&M and Georgia and potentially Arkansas.

[Todd4State]

What I liked yesterday is that he kept the team engaged in what could be considered a throw away game by rolling in a lot of new formations early. Mixed up personnel packages, did some off the wall stuff. And he was throwing deep shots early.

Best way to keep a team engaged off a big emotional win is to do all those things.

Lebby seems to have a plan. We still don't have the talent across the board to compete consistently. But Lebby coaches our players and he seems to have the balance of being able to do all the things.

Well said. What I like about Lebby is I feel like he believes in Mississippi State and our potential.

When Dan was here I felt like he was basically only out for himself and looked down on us and had really no interest in making us better except for his own benefit to get a job like Florida.

[Todd4State]

Depends on what you mean by compete consistently. We are 3-0 on the verge of 4-0 for the first time in almost a decade. This offense has as much if not more firepower than any we have ever had. That’s not saying much but Shapen, fluff, Booth, Evans and Thompson are all very very good.

We will see on the defense but they are night and day from last year. They should be good enough to compete against most except maybe A&M and Georgia and potentially Arkansas.

I think key goes back to recruiting. If we keep winning- they will come. Even if we have to go through the portal if we keep doing well we will add players.

I would add Tennessee to offenses I'm worried about as well.

[MaroonFlounder]

Shapen took too many hard hits....against a FCS opponent.

We may see Kamario sooner than expected.

[basedog]

Football players can't play the game thinking about getting hurt. Yes, you have to protect yourself and play smart but it's a violate sport. I understand this way better than many, if you guys knew my football history you would understand what I am saying. LOL I love the fact Shapen plays hard.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Shapen took too many hard hits....against a FCS opponent.

We may see Kamario sooner than expected.

It's football. You're going to take hits. We can't completely protect him, and Lebby is not going to. He needed to take some hits like he did Saturday so the first time he feels a hit like that it isn't against Tennessee when they delay stunt a middle LBer and he's coming with bad intentions.

[Goldendawg]

It's football. You're going to take hits. We can't completely protect him, and Lebby is not going to. He needed to take some hits like he did Saturday so the first time he feels a hit like that it isn't against Tennessee when they delay stunt a middle LBer and he's coming with bad intentions.

Was against Alcorn of course but, both Luke and Kamario looked so great tucking and running the ball. Honestly, watched closely to see if Blake got up after his TD run as I am so conditioned to his health issues with so much history and reading here on this and other sites. One thing too obvious to me in a college offense these days, if your QB is not a threat to run you are playing 10 1/2 against the 11 on "D". They must respect that option when we have the ball no matter who our QB is. JMO.

[Dawgface]

It's football. You're going to take hits. We can't completely protect him, and Lebby is not going to. He needed to take some hits like he did Saturday so the first time he feels a hit like that it isn't against Tennessee when they delay stunt a middle LBer and he's coming with bad intentions.

I wouldn’t having him do a design run as he did for his td. Unnecessary against an Alcorn St. He was barely touched but injuries do happen against crap teams.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I wouldn’t having him do a design run as he did for his td. Unnecessary against an Alcorn St. He was barely touched but injuries do happen against crap teams.

I mean it's a zone read. End crashed and Shapen kept it and walked in. He made the perfect read. He tripped himself up as much as he got hit.

[Todd4State]

I mean it's a zone read. End crashed and Shapen kept it and walked in. He made the perfect read. He tripped himself up as much as he got hit.

This.

[R2Dawg]

Was against Alcorn of course but, both Luke and Kamario looked so great tucking and running the ball. Honestly, watched closely to see if Blake got up after his TD run as I am so conditioned to his health issues with so much history and reading here on this and other sites. One thing too obvious to me in a college offense these days, if your QB is not a threat to run you are playing 10 1/2 against the 11 on "D". They must respect that option when we have the ball no matter who our QB is. JMO.

Yep, must have in today's game. It is even important in the pros too. Dak doesn't run on his last play, who knows they may not win.

[BravesDoggy]

Shapen took too many hard hits....against a FCS opponent.

We may see Kamario sooner than expected.

Linemen miss blocks. Defensive tackles and linebackers blow an assignment and give up a decent run. It happens whether you are playing Tiddlywink Tech or Alabama. What matters is how you respond over the course of 4 quarters. For all the whining that some were doing about a couple of less than 20 yard runs in the first quarter, we ended up giving up less than 200 total yards. The 3rd and 4th stringers played lights out and kept the game a shutout. Thats all you can ask for.

A QB is going to get hit during a football game. It is unavoidable. We can't play Shapen in bubble wrap nor can we expect him to never get touched by the opponent.

[Coach34]

Lebby is Mullen 2.0

I dont know if he will job shop the way Mullen did- but he will take that Blue Blood when offered. We'll see how hard he pursues them. As long as we can fund the program to get enough players to compete- he will stay here. Mullen got kids to come here and develop- Lebby has to find portals that can develop so we can get them at a cut rate.

Lots of optimism right now. Basically what we knew- talent level was low- especially on D. Roster is better and suddenly the coaching looks better. Amazing isnt it?

[Todd4State]

Lebby is Mullen 2.0

I dont know if he will job shop the way Mullen did- but he will take that Blue Blood when offered. We'll see how hard he pursues them. As long as we can fund the program to get enough players to compete- he will stay here. Mullen got kids to come here and develop- Lebby has to find portals that can develop so we can get them at a cut rate.

Lots of optimism right now. Basically what we knew- talent level was low- especially on D. Roster is better and suddenly the coaching looks better. Amazing isnt it?

I hope that doesn't happen for at least another 6-7 years. But if he wins enough there will be interest.

[Coach34]

I hope that doesn't happen for at least another 6-7 years. But if he wins enough there will be interest.

Just depends on job openings. We now know Florida is going to be open. That's happening. LSU likely will not altho if u saw the press conference the Yankee did after they beat Fla u know that relationship is awful and will not last. Bama is trying to course correct but Jawja is coming up. A Jawja win and that mumble becomes a shout. Clemson may get irritated soon- the guy that elevated them is starting to struggle to keep them there.

[DEDawg]

Just depends on job openings. We now know Florida is going to be open. That's happening. LSU likely will not altho if u saw the press conference the Yankee did after they beat Fla u know that relationship is awful and will not last. Bama is trying to course correct but Jawja is coming up. A Jawja win and that mumble becomes a shout. Clemson may get irritated soon- the guy that elevated them is starting to struggle to keep them there.

Unless he goes 9-3 this year while averaging 33 ppg in SEC play, there is no chance he is top 5 for any of those jobs.

[Coach34]

Unless he goes 9-3 this year while averaging 33 ppg in SEC play, there is no chance he is top 5 for any of those jobs.

oh I agree. I'm hoping we get to 6-6 and in a bowl. Just talking down the line. Going 7-5 at State means u can damn sure go 10-2 at Clemson

[Todd4State]

Unless he goes 9-3 this year while averaging 33 ppg in SEC play, there is no chance he is top 5 for any of those jobs.

The Art Briles stench is in our favor and may help us keep him too.

[basedog]

Way too early to discuss, think or post about Lebby and his future of leaving, just saying. Few weeks ago, he was "trash" by some on ED.

[KB21]

Even during last season, I saw signs that Jeff was not only a good coach but a very good coach.

1. The buy in - He gets his players to buy into what he's saying and the system he uses. The players also play hard and never give up, even when they were clearly overmatched.
2. Player Development - He's showing this year, now that he has a second spring and training camp under his belt with the players he inherited, that those players are getting better. Even the players who played a lot on defense last season that weren't ready or physically prepared to play, are suddenly ready and more physically prepared to play. They have gotten better.

[Pancho]

I agree that Lebby is fine and actually doesn't put himself before anyone. He is no different than any other quality college football mind, he simply needs talented players who buy in and he needs lots of em.

[HoopsDawg]

We do not need to waste Kamario. Need to go all in on a roster to support his next 3 years.

[Pancho]

Some of the 26 high schoolers and some lower level portal guys are showing traction to come and play with Kamario

[R2Dawg]

Some of the 26 high schoolers and some lower level portal guys are showing traction to come and play with Kamario

We got some real momentum. Kamario is going to be complete the resurgence of MSU football. This year will be similar to 09 and hope ends in a bowl. You can see how talented KT is. He reminds me of Cam Newton but better passer as a freshman.

[Coach34]

The Art Briles stench is in our favor and may help us keep him too.

This is wayyyy overblown. Too much money in college sports and winning is everything. Briles walks around our campus with no problem. It will be the same at Lebby's next coaching stop

[Todd4State]

This is wayyyy overblown. Too much money in college sports and winning is everything. Briles walks around our campus with no problem. It will be the same at Lebby's next coaching stop

It is overblown. But it may keep him at MSU for another year or two. It was definitely an issue at Oklahoma.

Ironically, if the Clarion-Ledger keeps bringing it up every year they're actually helping us out for a change.

[BrunswickDawg]

It is overblown. But it may keep him at MSU for another year or two. It was definitely an issue at Oklahoma.

Ironically, if the Clarion-Ledger keeps bringing it up every year they're actually helping us out for a change.

I think some that at Oklahoma was blown up by people not wanting Lebby, so they used the Briles angle to drive a wedge. Add to it that Baylor was a Big XII rival for 30 years and I think that impacted somethings too.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think some that at Oklahoma was blown up by people not wanting Lebby, so they used the Briles angle to drive a wedge. Add to it that Baylor was a Big XII rival for 30 years and I think that impacted somethings too.

They didn't want Lebby there and used whatever they could to get him out of there. The Venables lifers were very fearful that Jeff was gunning for Venables job.

[Todd4State]

They didn't want Lebby there and used whatever they could to get him out of there. The Venables lifers were very fearful that Jeff was gunning for Venables job.

Interesting.

[Goldendawg]

Way too early to discuss, think or post about Lebby and his future of leaving, just saying. Few weeks ago, he was "trash" by some on ED.

I too, have been very critical of another OTJ training HC (and even DC) by our so called "powers to be", especially during and after 2-10 and 0-8. We are improved in many ways at 3-0 to date but, can we pump the brakes on losing him to a Blue Blood until we play the 8 SEC games this year and count the wins and how we look in the losses? We have a bi-polar fan base especailly when it comes to football and I too have been guilty since my first game on campus in 1963 as an 8 year old. Hail State!

[basedog]

I too, have been very critical of another OTJ training HC (and even DC) by our so called "powers to be", especially during and after 2-10 and 0-8. We are improved in many ways at 3-0 to date but, can we pump the brakes on losing him to a Blue Blood until we play the 8 SEC games this year and count the wins and how we look in the losses? We have a bi-polar fan base especailly when it comes to football and I too have been guilty since my first game on campus in 1963 as an 8 year old. Hail State!

No doubt we are improved, mainly because the coaching staff which in most part were new to the situation of being at "Small town Vegas", sec football and of course being a first-year coach. Why anyone is already thinking of him leaving after a year plus is crazy or even discussing. Coaches move around all the time now days. There is nothing to see or worry about.

[DanDority]

In my Opinion in todays college sports you don't need to have a so called "BIG NAME" coach in any sport. Because, of everything that has made me HATE todays college sports with the "I don't play so many snaps or minutes then I'm gone" or "How much money can I get". Just hire a qualified high school coach and get the best players, and roll with it.