Chris Low Article from On3

[Todd4State]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really good read ? and strong words from Selmon in this piece. <a href="https://t.co/V6MdfgsyFF">https://t.co/V6MdfgsyFF</a> <a href="https://t.co/mMCU4TMkzN">pic.twitter.com/mMCU4TMkzN</a></p>&mdash; Tru Maroon Nation (@TruMaroonNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/TruMaroonNation/status/1962866644666970401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>







I think baseball definitely catches some unfair flack for how the AD has handled baseball and football. MSU has funded baseball like it should be funded IMO. And Selmon has continued to do that and I think has even did better than Cohen did with the hire of O'Connor. At the same time, football has been chronically underfunded and that is MSU's fault. I think we can and should fund both baseball and football the way we should fund both. I will say that people have forgotten but before Byrne baseball wasn't funded like it needed to be. And Cohen came in and made some changes that needed to be made and that culminated with the new baseball stadium. It has been funded so well since 2009 that people have forgotten that.

Now, with football MSU has simply never fully committed to it like they should. And the Dak era ended and Stricklin was the AD at the time. He is the one that should have taken advantage of the success of the 2014 team from the start and simply did not. Cohen should have fixed it but he wasn't qualified to be the AD and as a result he didn't fix it, made a bad hire in Moorhead because "we can only hire up and coming coordinators as head coaches" and then made a good hire in Leach who tragically passed away. The BIGGEST issue was Cohen did not develop NIL like he should have and he just hoped it would go away. Meanwhile others embraced it. And it hurt Leach, Arnett who I despise but to be fair it hurt him too, and it hurt Lebby.

You can say what you want about Leach passing away but MSU made another poor hire in Arnett and because they didn't have the funding MSU was hamstring with how they could flip the roster which would have been easier to do with a fully funded NIL war chest.

[Goldendawg]

This article has been on sixpack for a couple of days with hundreds of posts. Just now showing up here through your new thread. This site leans baseball very heavily in my opinion. I want us to succeed in all sports, but football wags the dog in many way$. If we don't fix football asap, a regional sport like baseball , though very successful, will not carry us into a coming super conference if it happens in the future. Don't know how many "Washington Generals" the blue bloods "Globetrotter" teams will need to keep to pad their schedules, but we can't take the chance on being in that group. We must start winning again in big boy football starting with ASU! Hail State!

[Pancho]

I'd be real bored to look at sixpack

[War Machine Dawg]

Someone want to post the full article? It's behind the pay wall.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'd be real bored to look at sixpack

The new On3 stuff is a completely different board than SPS. Same site but different boards.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This article has been on sixpack for a couple of days with hundreds of posts. Just now showing up here through your new thread. This site leans baseball very heavily in my opinion. I want us to succeed in all sports, but football wags the dog in many way$. If we don't fix football asap, a regional sport like baseball , though very successful, will not carry us into a coming super conference if it happens in the future. Don't know how many "Washington Generals" the blue bloods "Globetrotter" teams will need to keep to pad their schedules, but we can't take the chance on being in that group. We must start winning again in big boy football starting with ASU! Hail State!

Very baseball heavy. Winning in football will help drive interest, but we also have lost some good posters in the last few years that had been here for a while. Not that they're dead, they just don't post

[Political Hack]

We don't have the economic base or booster$ to keep up in football with A&M, Florida, Bama, etc... If you're looking at a return on investment, it's a lot more attainable for us to concentrate limited money in baseball and basketball. Also, from an investment standpoint, it's really up to the people who are handing over the money. So it's not completely in the hands of the Ath Dept.

I do think there's a lot more that could be done in football, especially when it comes to getting organized and prioritizing NIL funding, but Omaha and the NCAA basketball tournament are going to be an easier "buy" than the college football playoffs.

[1bigdawg]

We don't have the economic base or booster$ to keep up in football with A&M, Florida, Bama, etc... If you're looking at a return on investment, it's a lot more attainable for us to concentrate limited money in baseball and basketball. Also, from an investment standpoint, it's really up to the people who are handing over the money. So it's not completely in the hands of the Ath Dept.

I do think there's a lot more that could be done in football, especially when it comes to getting organized and prioritizing NIL funding, but Omaha and the NCAA basketball tournament are going to be an easier "buy" than the college football playoffs.

While it is much easier in baseball and basketball, that is the start of a downward spiral. It is football that makes the money that allows the other sports to be competitive. If we do not emphasize and do what's needed there, we won't have the resources for baseball and basketball.

[Todd4State]

We don't have the economic base or booster$ to keep up in football with A&M, Florida, Bama, etc... If you're looking at a return on investment, it's a lot more attainable for us to concentrate limited money in baseball and basketball. Also, from an investment standpoint, it's really up to the people who are handing over the money. So it's not completely in the hands of the Ath Dept.

I do think there's a lot more that could be done in football, especially when it comes to getting organized and prioritizing NIL funding, but Omaha and the NCAA basketball tournament are going to be an easier "buy" than the college football playoffs.

I think what Ole Miss is doing in football right now is our ceiling. And the reality is they are in the same state, same conference and have a comparable amount of alumni that MSU does so they are a good comparison IMO.

To me, it's always like MSU is afraid to commit to football. For whatever reason. It almost seems like we're afraid of making the SEC mad if we're too good at football. Or we're afraid that if we invest in it and have a losing season that our fans will be "embarrassed." In many ways it is very puzzling because we treat baseball very much the opposite way. Now, yes, you are right we have a much better chance of winning a NC in baseball and we are a blueblood in that sport but that's partially because we have committed to it as a fanbase and a University. And I think that Dan Mullen quote about "fans show up and then winning starts" or whatever it was is kind of chicken and the egg. Because to me, it's MSU's responsibility from an AD level to get fans to show up.

And you think about it- what did Stricklin do after Dak? Did MSU do a bunch of things to try to keep getting fans to come out for football? Not really. I think he made a HUGE mistake in taking up for Dan when Keenum wanted him to leave for Maryland after 2015 that in my opinion set a lot of things in motion to where we are today. Because at the time in 2015 Dan lost Dak's senior Egg Bowl in part because he was looking around and MSU essentially allowed him to do it and a lot of MSU fans weren't happy about how that all played out. So, Scott needed to do something to try to capitalize on 2014 and 2015 and he did nothing and we lost to South Alabama. Then he left for Florida in part because of the Dan situation and the Rick Ray situation and then things happened that led to Cohen becoming the AD. Which was NOT what MSU needed at the time. So, for much of 2016 and all of 2017 we had an unqualified AD and a coach that didn't want to be here. And eventually Dan left and Cohen hired Moorhead in part because of the poor ol MSU mindset that MSU can only hiring up and coming coordinators and retreads. Moorhead didn't work out and we got Leach who was successful but then he passed away after only three years and then MSU had no AD and a vacant HC spot and we ended up with Arnett. Until Selmon came along and has started to try to fix things.

In the meantime, the game day atmosphere has changed very little since 2009 if we are being honest. And then you have MSU fighting fans over things like end zone paint, uniforms, football logos, what song to play after the third quarter, and LED lightshows in the meantime. Now, I know that stuff doesn't win games in and of itself but those are things that you sell to fans and that make the program better. In short, the past administration didn't care what the fans wanted and it almost felt like they were giving us the middle finger with BS about Nike owning logos and boring lessons on "branding."

[Coach34]

Sixpack is still online? Damn. I may need to check that out. It's been a couple years

[Coach34]

We don't have the economic base or booster$ to keep up in football with A&M, Florida, Bama, etc... If you're looking at a return on investment, it's a lot more attainable for us to concentrate limited money in baseball and basketball. Also, from an investment standpoint, it's really up to the people who are handing over the money. So it's not completely in the hands of the Ath Dept.

I do think there's a lot more that could be done in football, especially when it comes to getting organized and prioritizing NIL funding, but Omaha and the NCAA basketball tournament are going to be an easier "buy" than the college football playoffs.

agree Hack and let me repeat again- We arent going to be left out of any rebranding or Superconference. The SEC has so much power- its never going to give it up. Why would the SEC give up its controlling power it has now- to join another conference where they had less of a voice? Makes no sense.

[Goldendawg]

I'd be real bored to look at sixpack

Some irony - I found out about Elitedawgs years ago when it was mentioned in a thread on the old Sixpack. Said ED was a bunch of know it all snobs. I checked ED out anyway and joined because I liked the format much better and enjoyed many of the posters. As previously mentioned, many of those I enjoyed no longer post here but a couple of familiar names are posting on ON3.

I am retired and read several free MSU websites including free content on 24/7 MSU (genespage). I also read ED & yes Sixpackspeak (now operated by ON3) daily. On3 breaks many MSU stories with often accurate info sometimes before ED with many more posts, especially regarding football. They also have non-sports threads allowed and it is all mixed up in the posts. Never joined anything but ED, except the old free genespage board many years ago, but there is MSU sports opinions and knowledge to be gained on many different sites. Hail State! Beat ASU! Our 8 will be there for family consecutive season ticket year number 58 or so, dressed in our best black Johnny Cash shirts.

[Goldendawg]

Bump: This article with Selmon's comments about our football and baseball programs in the grand scheme of things appeared on Sixpack (On3) last Tuesday and has now had 267 posts vs the 13 here and 2 of them are mine. This site is about dead to football and has become a heavily leaning baseball site about year round. Where have all our posters gone, so many familiar names? Maybe a win over ASU will help. Hail State!

[Coursesuper]

Bump: This article with Selmon's comments about our football and baseball programs in the grand scheme of things appeared on Sixpack (On3) last Tuesday and has now had 267 posts vs the 13 here and 2 of them are mine. This site is about dead to football and has become a heavily leaning baseball site about year round. Where have all our posters gone, so many familiar names? Maybe a win over ASU will help. Hail State!

The hire of John Cohen will go down as one of the single worst moves ever made by MSU Athletics. Completely short sighted, confident only in their own ignorance alumni screwed us for years with that one.

[DownwardDawg]

Bump: This article with Selmon's comments about our football and baseball programs in the grand scheme of things appeared on Sixpack (On3) last Tuesday and has now had 267 posts vs the 13 here and 2 of them are mine. This site is about dead to football and has become a heavily leaning baseball site about year round. Where have all our posters gone, so many familiar names? Maybe a win over ASU will help. Hail State!

This site has become a shell of what it once was.

[Pancho]

what do we do to get it back up?

[was21]

I think the article reference is on the Hail State website or at least it was. I also received it in the email. Maybe it was emailed by the Bulldog Club.