Haters weep- AZ ST

[Cowbeller]

ASU, like us, is struggling against an inferior opponent. If you think for a second we don?t have a chance you have lost your 17mind

[R2Dawg]

What happened? Where can we exploit them?

[Ezsoil]

I watched the whole game ....Their opponent was an FCS opponent at home ..Northern Arizona was very small and had very few athletes ..their QB was decent but not very mobile ..AZ State had many penalties that killed them ..I thought their defense was slow and even though northern AZ was one dimensional, they couldn't adjust ....Az St. relied on their one stud receiver ..Tyson, I'll be looking for Jones to be assigned to him.....I'd game plan to take Tyson away from them and take your chances with their backs. There is no Scattaboo and that defense couldn't consistently stop a smaller, one dimensional FCS team at home. So I know it's cool to crap on all things MSU but id say there is a path there and AZ State has more questions than MSU

[BeardoMSU]

I watched the whole game ....Their opponent was an FCS opponent at home ..Northern Arizona was very small and had very few athletes ..their QB was decent but not very mobile ..AZ State had many penalties that killed them ..I thought their defense was slow and even though northern AZ was one dimensional, they couldn't adjust ....Az St. relied on their one stud receiver ..Tyson, I'll be looking for Jones to be assigned to him.....I'd game plan to take Tyson away from them and take your chances with their backs. There is no Scattaboo and that defense couldn't consistently stop a smaller, one dimensional FCS team at home. So I know it's cool to crap on all things MSU but id say there is a path there and AZ State has more questions than MSU

Good stuff. Thanks.

[Ezsoil]

MSU was able to play every defensive player that traveled and almost every offensive player against a G5 school on the road ..AZ State had to rely on their stud receiver to catch 12 balls and played their starters well into the 4th quarter against an FCS team at home....

[TrapGame]

https://youtu.be/6Y0Go9CNHhY?si=zO0_RO1Vk-fkAVQg

Here's the highlights. Leavitt was also sacked multiple times by a lightweight defense.Tyson and Leavitt were the stars of the show. NAU moved the ball well on ASU defense but couldn't capitalize on red zone opportunities.

[Coursesuper]

Week 1 is a crap shoot. We will have to improve next week as will ASU to be able to win. I don?t put much into what we saw this week. We will know more about what we have late next Saturday evening.

[chef dixon]

ASU will be worse than last year. Programs like that simply cannot sustain that level year to year. Doesn't mean we will win but I expect a good game

[maroonmania]

May have to try and beat them without Shapen. Listened to a little of the post-game press conference and Lebby just said he would have to check on the status of Blake and Jett Jefferson for next week. Shapen is just one of those guys that will always be injured, and for that reason, I wish we hadn't brought him back as a starter. I still think Shapen coming back was a big factor in Arnold not wanting to come here. Hope LK is the real deal because he may be starting next week.

[TrapGame]

May have to try and beat them without Shapen. Listened to a little of the post-game press conference and Lebby just said he would have to check on the status of Blake and Jett Jefferson for next week. Shapen is just one of those guys that will always be injured, and for that reason, I wish we hadn't brought him back as a starter. I still think Shapen coming back was a big factor in Arnold not wanting to come here. Hope LK is the real deal because he may be starting next week.

We are making ASU prepare for both QBs. Smart.

[DEDawg]

May have to try and beat them without Shapen. Listened to a little of the post-game press conference and Lebby just said he would have to check on the status of Blake and Jett Jefferson for next week. Shapen is just one of those guys that will always be injured, and for that reason, I wish we hadn't brought him back as a starter. I still think Shapen coming back was a big factor in Arnold not wanting to come here. Hope LK is the real deal because he may be starting next week.

Arnold was a business decision. He would be our starter if he came

[BravesDoggy]

May have to try and beat them without Shapen. Listened to a little of the post-game press conference and Lebby just said he would have to check on the status of Blake and Jett Jefferson for next week. Shapen is just one of those guys that will always be injured, and for that reason, I wish we hadn't brought him back as a starter. I still think Shapen coming back was a big factor in Arnold not wanting to come here. Hope LK is the real deal because he may be starting next week.

He was talking about Blake Steen. Not Shapen

[maroonmania]

He was talking about Blake Steen. Not Shapen

Oh ok, thanks for clarifying that.

[NCDawg]

Seems to me our OL appears slow, weak, and lethargic. I don't see us winning very muich if we can't improve the OL play.

[Dawgology]

Watching the highlight they definitely relied on Levitts legs to win that game. A lot of broken plays where he uses his speed to make something happen.

[1bigdawg]

Seems to me our OL appears slow, weak, and lethargic. I don't see us winning very muich if we can't improve the OL play.

I saw Steen whiff on a couple of blocks and get beaten on another. The OL looked much better after he came out with his injury.

[Skydawg1]

Luke Work didn't play either. I was looking forward to seeing how he did.

[wrapit]

ASU, like us, is struggling against an inferior opponent. If you think for a second we don?t have a chance you have lost your 17mind

nm

[archdog]

We beat them last year if they didn?t have Scattabo. Hell we almost came back and beat them anyway.

[TrapGame]

We beat them last year if they didn?t have Scattabo. Hell we almost came back and beat them anyway.

Traore dropped a TD in the end zone. Shapen fumbled the ball for an easy scoop and score. Skattebo did the rest. The kid they got from Army is a good back but he ain't Skattebo.

We play a clean game with hardly any penalties and we got a decent shot to win this one.

And you could tell by Lebby's presser today that the team wants this one. They want some payback for last year.

[BeardoMSU]

This dude, lol...

https://twitter.com/MaxZepedaSports/status/1962603461142553071

[Coach34]

I still think Shapen coming back was a big factor in Arnold not wanting to come here.

Arnold got $1MM more dollarinos to go to Auburn. Had zero to do with Shapen. Arnold was told he would be the starter. But we are trying to be ballers on a budget- Auburn isnt.

[Coach34]

We beat them last year if they didn?t have Scattabo. Hell we almost came back and beat them anyway.

They had a huge lead and were just trying to run out the clock. They beat us soundly. Hopefully we play better this Sat

[Cowbeller]

nm

Exactly my point in this post. Week 1 does not give the full story and everyone is shaking off dust.

What can be seen is ASU had to get more creative as the game went on bc they cannot establish the run easily like they did last year.

What we saw were some of the same issues from last year but also some potential improvements that make us more competitive. Ie our secondary.

My gut tells me that we flip the script from last years game and establish the run early and work more play action than death by screens. Hell if I am Lebby I take the ball first if we win the toss bc I truly believe we can work from ahead all game instead of chasing everyone like last year.

State-34
ASU-31

[archdog]

We should have won last year. Seriously. Take Skattebo off the field and we beat them. That dude was the absolute best rusher in all of college football last year.

[archdog]

They had a huge lead and were just trying to run out the clock. They beat us soundly. Hopefully we play better this Sat

Disagree. They were not playing scrubs at the end of the game. WE tightened up on defense and start executing on offense.
The jumped on us to start the game, by the end, they were happy we ran out of time.