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BrunswickDawg
08-30-2025, 10:55 AM
Let's F****in Go!

starkvegasdawg
08-30-2025, 11:07 AM
National championship or bust.

ZedFedder
08-30-2025, 11:07 AM
Boom!

DawgFromOxford
08-30-2025, 11:08 AM
Let?s go!!!

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:08 AM
Shapen is good man. OL holds up and he stays healthy, 6 is absolutely a possibility

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:08 AM
Nice! Huge start!

Coach34
08-30-2025, 11:08 AM
nice double move

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:09 AM
I like that Lebby is doing the exact opposite of what we all expected AND IT WORKS. Dude might know how to coach and make a gameplan

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 11:10 AM
Is this Tight End Thing a new position in football? Must be because been a long time since I've seen one in maroon and white.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:12 AM
DL still getting pushed off the LOS. Very discouraging.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:12 AM
Defense looking suspect still this year. Getting pushed around up front, but it's clear we at least have side to side speed this year.

ZedFedder
08-30-2025, 11:14 AM
Honestly defense doesn?t look as bad as last year.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:16 AM
Honestly defense doesn?t look as bad as last year.
Not at all. Much faster. Physicality up front is a concern though

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 11:16 AM
DL still getting pushed off the LOS. Very discouraging.

Yep. Not good.

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 11:16 AM
Defense looking suspect still this year. Getting pushed around up front, but it's clear we at least have side to side speed this year.

Containment lost twice and the LB and Safety still got there to make a play for a minimal gain. Just don't get burned by a QB who can throw on the run.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:17 AM
Fair catching at the 5 yard line. How stupid.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:19 AM
Containment lost twice and the LB and Safety still got there to make a play for a minimal gain. Just don't get burned by a QB who can throw on the run.
Yep. after watching Auburn last night I?m very glad we don?t play them this year

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:19 AM
Damn Blake

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:20 AM
Come on Blake you throw that before he gets fully turned around

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:20 AM
Why are we throwing the ball so much?

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:22 AM
Kelly looks great

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:22 AM
Nice stop by the D. Gifted them 3 points though.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:29 AM
Finally running the ball and gashing them.

ZedFedder
08-30-2025, 11:30 AM
Usm was selling out to stop run early.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:35 AM
And now the flags start falling

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:36 AM
Damn Ferrie!!!!

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 11:37 AM
Great kick

Matt3467
08-30-2025, 11:37 AM
Shapen won't last very long.

Dawgology
08-30-2025, 11:37 AM
Same offense. Same results. Meh.

State82
08-30-2025, 11:37 AM
Nice! Perfect.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 11:38 AM
There needs to be another word with the OL.

EdwardDrayton
08-30-2025, 11:38 AM
We have a 17ing KICKER!!! Damn!!!

DawgFromOxford
08-30-2025, 11:38 AM
Ok Ferrie we see you. When?s the last time we had a kicker nail one from 50+?

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:38 AM
That may have been the longest FG in our history

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:39 AM
Dang, when is the last time we hit a 56 yard FG? Nice.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:40 AM
10-3, should be 14-0

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:41 AM
Whitson is a difference maker.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:43 AM
10-3, should be 14-0
Agreed but last year it would be 10-7 USM. I?ve seen 2 runs that absolutely would?ve been broken off for 20+ against last years D

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 11:44 AM
We are playing a ton of guys on D. Maybe too many.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 11:44 AM
I'm not digging our defense

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 11:45 AM
Too many plays for the defense. They got to get better quickly.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:45 AM
Give up 10 on 3rd and 11 and now they will go for it and likely keep the drive going. Defense doesn't look much better so far.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 11:45 AM
Whitson is a difference maker.

He has to be on the field more. Especially on 3rd downs.

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 11:46 AM
Give up 10 on 3rd and 11 and now they will go for it and likely keep the drive going. Defense doesn't look much better so far.

Same Ol same Ol!

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:46 AM
Should have pitched a shutout in first quarter. Flags and penalties were may have cost us a 14-0 first quarter. Play clean and it shouldn’t be a close final score.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:47 AM
Should have pitched a shutout in first quarter. Flags and penalties were may have cost us a 14-0 first quarter. Play clean and it shouldn’t be a close final score.

Offense not helping. Turnover and then multiple penalties.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:48 AM
Give up 10 on 3rd and 11 and now they will go for it and likely keep the drive going. Defense doesn't look much better so far.

Those plays infuriate me

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:48 AM
Nice stop there!

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:49 AM
Nice stop

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:49 AM
Denied!!!

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 11:49 AM
We don?t make that stop last year

msstate7
08-30-2025, 11:50 AM
The D is suspect to me, but 2 big stops when they needed em

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:50 AM
Apparently we are afraid to run between the Tackles against this stout USM DL.

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 11:50 AM
Play calling is awful right now. Actually offensive line is awful!

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:51 AM
We look like crap now.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:51 AM
Play calling is awful right now.

Its horrible. We have a huge advantage up the middle and won't run there.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 11:51 AM
Lebby, don't go balls to the wall until you get a first down

Thick
08-30-2025, 11:51 AM
That series was complete shit!!!!

Coach34
08-30-2025, 11:51 AM
playcalling is awful

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 11:52 AM
I don?t remember this much East/West BS last year.

BulldogBear
08-30-2025, 11:52 AM
Shapen needs to look downfield more. Its a problem. That's the second time someone has been wide open downfield and no throw.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 11:52 AM
Haven’t seen much out of our WRs yet. 1 drop stands out but penalty negated it

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:53 AM
We are calling crap. Everything we are doing is sideways.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 11:53 AM
The offense kinda seems like numb nuts with all this wide stuff and lack of passes down field.

EdwardDrayton
08-30-2025, 11:53 AM
playcalling is awful

^^^^^

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 11:54 AM
Sorry, but based on what I'm seeing I don't see how we beat Arizona State next week unless they've regressed significantly.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 11:55 AM
I was hoping tenn was a game we could steal, but we don't look close to them early.

Activated Alpha
08-30-2025, 11:55 AM
Can we stop calling screens. I have never seen them work for a State team

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:56 AM
Whitson with sack. Dude can play

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:57 AM
3rd down curse again.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 11:57 AM
Their playcalling way better than ours.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 11:58 AM
I said Lebby ain't it in the 2nd quarter last season vs ASU. I've saw nothing to change my mind. Let's call that dude at unlv

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 11:58 AM
This is what our offense is supposed to look like.

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 11:59 AM
Booth was running all over them... then we stop giving him the ball. Joke

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:00 PM
Now we have given them all the confidence and momentum.

Activated Alpha
08-30-2025, 12:00 PM
I?ve seen an AIDs patient put up more of a fight than us

No BS Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:00 PM
Going to be another long year fellas.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:00 PM
We are calling crap. Everything we are doing is sideways.

Agree.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:01 PM
What a lucky play

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:01 PM
I hate football

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:01 PM
Whitson with sack. Dude can play

Whitson is the only SEC player we seem to have on the DL.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:01 PM
That's not luck? WTF! Vs any team but state, that's an int

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
Going to be another long year fellas.

If it is long this year, then next 2 years is the same so that will be 4 straight years. Suck. Lebby got another year then a new coach year again.

Pinto
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
Where are all those 4-0 threads now?

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
That should have been a pick 6 going the other way!

defiantdog
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
We are not an SEC team anymore

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
Can’t make the play as usual at the goal line. Tipped for a score. Awful

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:02 PM
What a lucky play

Of course it's luck, but the problem is vs a real sec team, they wouldn't have been in that spot. We're still the worst team in the sec

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:03 PM
I'm a 3 and out from turning the channel and adopting a team that doesn't make me sick

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:04 PM
If we only score 10 points in a half against USM then that is embarrassing.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:04 PM
Billion dollar endowment and this is the best we can do? Awful.

No BS Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:04 PM
This talent upgrade we supposedly got is right on par with mid level conference USA talent! Pathetic.

Dawgology
08-30-2025, 12:04 PM
Yeah. This program is toast. I hope we are able to stay in the P5 during realignment but it’s probably not going to hapoen

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:04 PM
To me, we look much more talented than USM. Mistakes, playcalling, bad player rotations is why we are tied.

bulldawg28
08-30-2025, 12:05 PM
The defense is fine. Add 4 DL in the game instead of 3 and this Qb will be running for his life. Shapen needs to wake up and Lebby stop calling Leach swing passes

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:05 PM
At this point I'm willing to say that USM has the better HC.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:05 PM
Must answer this drive or we lose.

No BS Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:06 PM
I'm a 3 and out from turning the channel and adopting a team that doesn't make me sick

Yeah, very close to turning the channel myself to watch real college football.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:06 PM
The defense is fine. Add 4 DL in the game instead of 3 and this Qb will be running for his life. Shapen needs to wake up and Lebby stop calling Leach swing passes

Don't understand why we're passing so much. We're supposed to have two badass RBs. We've looked on run blocking. Play to your strength. Feed Booth and Bothwell.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:06 PM
That's not luck? WTF! Vs any team but state, that's an int

Yep. Good players make the pick

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:06 PM
Of course it's luck, but the problem is vs a real sec team, they wouldn't have been in that spot. We're still the worst team in the sec

And there was zero evidence that we weren't. The optimism of our fans is astonishing.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:07 PM
The defense is fine. Add 4 DL in the game instead of 3 and this Qb will be running for his life. Shapen needs to wake up and Lebby stop calling Leach swing passes

Agree

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:08 PM
This OL couldn't block me.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:08 PM
We went from looking questionable to downright bad in the last couple of series.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:08 PM
We f'n suck. Lebby isn't any better than arnett. Mullen, come save us

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:08 PM
Must answer this drive or we lose.

Nice answer.***

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:09 PM
Where are all those 4-0 threads now?

And the predictions of 40+ pts. Lolz

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:09 PM
Don't understand why we're passing so much. We're supposed to have two badass RBs. We've looked on run blocking. Play to your strength. Feed Booth and Bothwell.

Love how we go away from what works!!

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:09 PM
And there was zero evidence that we weren't. The optimism of our fans is astonishing.

Optimism is all we have. If we can't talk ourselves into being decent leading up to the season, what's the point?

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:10 PM
Don't understand why we're passing so much. We're supposed to have two badass RBs. We've looked on run blocking. Play to your strength. Feed Booth and Bothwell.

We are stupid

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:10 PM
We f'n suck. Lebby isn't any better than arnett. Mullen, come save us

Can't even field a decent offense which is why we hired Lebby.

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 12:10 PM
So we hire another Coordinator who can't produce and USM hires a sitting G5 Head Coach who lead his previous team to a conference championship. Which school is really more serious about football????

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:10 PM
Optimism is all we have. If we can't talk ourselves into being decent leading up to the season, what's the point?

I don't think you have to worry about the optimism any more.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:11 PM
We f'n suck. Lebby isn't any better than arnett. Mullen, come save us

Mullen can't save us. His days in the sun are probably over.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:11 PM
Can't even field a decent offense which is why we hired Lebby.

Yep complete failure. Not only that, we lost the D that MSU has always had.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:11 PM
We f'n suck. Lebby isn't any better than arnett. Mullen, come save us

Hard pass. The problem is we can't compete financially in the era of NIL and unlimited free agency. It takes 25 or 30 mil just to be competitive, much less capable of winning more than 5-7.

NCDawg
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
Difference is Southern MS seems to want it more than we do. Remeinds me of previous State-USM games and the reasons we stopped playing them.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
I feel confident we will win this game, but if this is our level of play, it's better to lose. Lebby needs to be gone

AlSwearengen
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
Oline is garbage. That’s all you need to know.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
Mullen can't save us. His days in the sun are probably over.

I think Mullen is done. He had his chance and blew it.

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
Optimism is all we have. If we can't talk ourselves into being decent leading up to the season, what's the point?

Yeah, after 50 years, I can't do it anymore. The saddest part is I'm not all that upset watching this game. Just numb...

Brobi-wan
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
If we suck, we suck. Just is what it is. I’m not ready to throw in the towel after halfway through the second. Jesus. Why would anyone want to play for us if that is the type of support we give? We will suck forever.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:12 PM
Mullen can't save us. His days in the sun are probably over.

Maybe. Lebby won't ever see the sun

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:13 PM
So we hire another Coordinator who can't produce and USM hires a sitting G5 Head Coach who lead his previous team to a conference championship. Which school is really more serious about football????

Yep, we never hire anyone that's proven anything. I guess Leach was the exception. We are always experimenting with first time HCs.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:13 PM
Difference is Southern MS seems to want it more than we do. Remeinds me of previous State-USM games and the reasons we stopped playing them.

Yep. This is their Super Bowl. 17 Cohen fir scheduling them, especially a straight home and home. He might've been worse for us than LT.

Dawgology
08-30-2025, 12:14 PM
I feel confident we will win this game, but if this is our level of play, it's better to lose. Lebby needs to be gone

This. If this program under the current leadership can’t recruit/purchase and coach well enough to beat a conference USA team handily then they need to be gone. The issue is our dumbass major boosters just care about baseball which they hang their hat on….even though we’ve sucked in that for the past 3 seasons also. Just stupid. The whole program and everyone associated with it are dumbasses

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:14 PM
Yeah, after 50 years, I can't do it anymore. The saddest part is I'm not all that upset watching this game. Just numb...

Same. Except it hasn't been 50 years for me.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:15 PM
I feel confident we will win this game

You do??

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:15 PM
Another 3rd down without Whitson on the field

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:15 PM
I say Mullen, but I doubt he'd come back anyway. We need a guy like him though that can find undeveloped talent at other schools now that the portal is here. We need a guy that has his eye for what could be, not necessarily what is now

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:15 PM
Where is 7 going at LB when the qb can run. Ran totally out of position

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:15 PM
I don't think you have to worry about the optimism any more.

But we was number 1!!! Before losing 3 of 4. Mulliz come save us!! Lolz.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:16 PM
You do??

Yes, both teams suck, but they suck more

Coursesuper
08-30-2025, 12:17 PM
I'm a 3 and out from turning the channel and adopting a team that doesn't make me sick

Well Bye

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:17 PM
I say Mullen, but I doubt he'd come back anyway. We need a guy like him though that can find undeveloped talent at other schools now that the portal is here. We need a guy that has his eye for what could be, not necessarily what is now

Mullen doesnt have time to develop players in this era.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:17 PM
I say Mullen, but I doubt he'd come back anyway. We need a guy like him though that can find undeveloped talent at other schools now that the portal is here. We need a guy that has his eye for what could be, not necessarily what is now

No one can be a development program anymore. NIL and the portal ruined that. Until we go back to 1 transfer and done, we're screwed.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:18 PM
Well Bye

I like punishment too much

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:19 PM
All the penalties

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:20 PM
Steen kinda sucks

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:20 PM
No one can be a development program anymore. NIL and the portal ruined that. Until we go back to 1 transfer and done, we're screwed.

Yeah you can. You don't do it through redshirting, but you can absolutely find guys that have another level. We have to find a guy with that eye for talent bc we're at huge financial disadvantage. ASU last season did just this

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:22 PM
Lol... stupid penalties

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:23 PM
OL still sucks

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:23 PM
Steen is terrible

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:24 PM
Yeah you can. You don't do it through redshirting, but you can absolutely find guys that have another level. We have to find a guy with that eye for talent bc we're at huge financial disadvantage. ASU last season did just this

That might work in the Big 12, but it doesn't in the SEC. It takes studs to win. We can't afford studs and there's no patience or ability to develop them. Our best QB is sitting on the bench in Baton Rouge.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:24 PM
Talk about a big play. Great run

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 12:24 PM
54 couldn't block my 72 year old ass!

Dawgology
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
This oline is pure trash

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
RTDF

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
Steen looks like a decoy

Thick
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
Steen?s not very good (RT)

Cowbell
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
This team sucks. We are getting beat on the LOS on both sides and Hurzler needs to be fired. Hutzlers defensive scheme ain't helping.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:25 PM
That might work in the Big 12, but it doesn't in the SEC. It takes studs to win. We can't afford studs and there's no patience or ability to develop them. Our best QB is sitting on the bench in Baton Rouge.

I mean if you trying to win the sec, you might as well give up now. I'm talking like vandy last season. With our budget, 8 win seasons should be the goal, not actually competing.

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 12:26 PM
So when did WORK get injured? In pregame warmups? Getting on the bus? Getting OFF the bus? Eating breakfast? Damn!

Cowbell
08-30-2025, 12:26 PM
RTDF

But outside. Quit running it up the gut. Same thing that got him in hot water at OU.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:26 PM
54 couldn't block my 72 year old ass!

He's turrable. I'm fairly sure me and my two fat buddies, one with mild CP, could get pressure on Shapen. We have not improved the OL at all.

ZedFedder
08-30-2025, 12:27 PM
Steen is bad.

Thick
08-30-2025, 12:28 PM
OL and DL are not impressing me to this point. One half of football, first game of the year is a little too quick to judge, but we really need to turn it up soon!

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:29 PM
USM has more new players than we do and they are having all the penalties.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:29 PM
Awful clock management there. Huddle after that Booth run.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:29 PM
we are so sloppy

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:30 PM
I mean if you trying to win the sec, you might as well give up now. I'm talking like vandy last season. With our budget, 8 win seasons should be the goal, not actually competing.

8 wins means beating four SEC teams. That takes studs. Virtually every team in the conference will be ranked most years. We aren't getting the guys to do that.

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:31 PM
False start on the entire OL. 🤡

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:31 PM
Love it

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:32 PM
I don't' trust our O on this 4th. WOuld rather just take the points.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
Good hold. Wouoda been 10-10

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
Penalties cost us 8 points that half.

ZedFedder
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
Penalties killed them too. Disappointing. We will see what happens.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
The body language of this team wasn't right from the start. This is a bad bad thing we've got going on.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
SEC refs strike again!

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 12:34 PM
OL and DL are not impressing me to this point. One half of football, first game of the year is a little too quick to judge, but we really need to turn it up soon!

It's not though. We suck again.

Coursesuper
08-30-2025, 12:35 PM
Thanks SEC officials

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:35 PM
Penalties cost us 8 points that half.

That penalty saved us 3 pts.

State82
08-30-2025, 12:36 PM
This is 17ing comedic. It's worse than I imagined. A pathetic Charlie Foxtrot.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:36 PM
That penalty saved us 3 pts.

Nah, it was bad form. Just make the block.

Cowbell
08-30-2025, 12:36 PM
That penalty saved us 3 pts.

Yep. He had him held and was still getting pushed backwards.

Travelingdawg
08-30-2025, 12:36 PM
To me, we look much more talented than USM. Mistakes, playcalling, bad player rotations is why we are tied.

I agree with this statement.
Looks like it on coaching to me, mistakes and penalties.

NCDawg
08-30-2025, 12:37 PM
Southern MS seems to be better on the OL and DL. We appear to be unable to run up the middle-have to take it to the outside.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:37 PM
To me, we look much more talented than USM. Mistakes, playcalling, bad player rotations is why we are tied.

I agree with this statement.
Looks like it on coaching to me, mistakes and penalties.
Unfortunately true. Hopefully it?s just game 1 on the road and gets cleaned up. OL looks awful

Cowbell
08-30-2025, 12:37 PM
I'm gonna say this now and I should've said it two weeks ago. This offensive line is fat and out of shape. Badly. Everybody was raving about how big they are. They're just freaking overweight. They're not athletic enough for this league

CaptainObvious
08-30-2025, 12:38 PM
The penalties are on things that should be drilled into the players heads.

Hands not inside the defenders pads.
Fake Snap Count entire line moves.
WR holding on screen plays.
Tackles not lined up properly.

Just basic stuff. Clownish performance.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:38 PM
This is what I hate about so many transfers that have never played together. You dont know what you're going to get. The body language shows this.

Cowbell
08-30-2025, 12:38 PM
To me, we look much more talented than USM. Mistakes, playcalling, bad player rotations is why we are tied.

I agree with this statement.
Looks like it on coaching to me, mistakes and penalties.

We are pretty athletic at different positions. But not on offensive line. And our defensive coordinator has our players out of position.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:41 PM
This is what I hate about so many transfers that have never played together. You dont know what you're going to get. The body language shows this.

I'm gonna chill on my beeching. I think they'll win this game by a couple scores. Next week is the test.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:41 PM
We are pretty athletic at different positions. But not on offensive line. And our defensive coordinator has our players out of position.

Our DC somehow managed to neutralize Isaac.

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 12:41 PM
I'm gonna say this now and I should've said it two weeks ago. This offensive line is fat and out of shape. Badly. Everybody was raving about how big they are. They're just freaking overweight. They're not athletic enough for this league

Agree. Big does not equal good, especially fat and out of shape

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:42 PM
So they get an extra 4 points on a ball that pops straight up in the air but back in their receiver's lap and we lose 4 points on a questionable holding call. We are not only bad but have bad luck as well. Those 2 things would change the score from 13-10 to 17-6.

chef dixon
08-30-2025, 12:42 PM
Shapen is a liability. His playmaking ability is almost 0. He's not terrible but it's too generic

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:43 PM
Shapen is a liability. His playmaking ability is almost 0. He's not terrible but it's too generic

How's the fsu guy been in practice?

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:43 PM
Agree. Big does not equal good, especially fat and out of shape

A lot of these guys didn't even get spring practice with us either. Hard to gel that quickly in a new scheme for a lot of our OL.

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:44 PM
Shapen is a liability. His playmaking ability is almost 0. He's not terrible but it's too generic

Yea, he needs to run to be much of a factor. If he gets hurt he gets hurt and we move on. He is just not good enough as a pure pocket QB.

Pinto
08-30-2025, 12:45 PM
I think the bitcoin guys were right all along. Should have put the 15 M in that not in the team.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:46 PM
So they get an extra 4 points on a ball that pops straight up in the air but back in their receiver's lap and we lose 4 points on a questionable holding call. We are not only bad but have bad luck as well. Those 2 things would change the score from 13-10 to 17-6.

Don?t forget the 4 we lost bc our RT was lined up. That?s 21-6.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:46 PM
Blake Shapen is Sawyer Robertson. The OL is worse than last year. The DL is only marginally better because of Will Whitson. A TE is the leading reciever because of the limited passing game.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:47 PM
Yea, he needs to run to be much of a factor. If he gets hurt he gets hurt and we move on. He is just not good enough as a pure pocket QB.

I thought Shapen looked good other than 1 decision.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 12:48 PM
A lot of these guys didn't even get spring practice with us either. Hard to gel that quickly in a new scheme for a lot of our OL.

I like Albert Reese but we should have been very concerned when the depth chart came out and he was the starting LT.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:49 PM
Arch manning is 5/10 for 26 yards in the first half. Don't know why, but this makes me feel better. It's still extremely early in the season, and even immensely talented players/teams can take a second to get going. Granted they're playing a great team, but still. Get this team in gear, Lebby

maroonmania
08-30-2025, 12:49 PM
I thought Shapen looked good other than 1 decision.

He is fairly accurate when he makes the right read but I just think this offense needs a QB that runs to be effective.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:51 PM
I thought Shapen looked good other than 1 decision.

Too stationary too often

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 12:52 PM
He is fairly accurate when he makes the right read but I just think this offense needs a QB that runs to be effective.

Yep. Unless you're a blue blood, you need a dual threat QB to give you extra threat. I've never bought the Shapen hype. He's average.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:53 PM
I'm gonna say this now and I should've said it two weeks ago. This offensive line is fat and out of shape. Badly. Everybody was raving about how big they are. They're just freaking overweight. They're not athletic enough for this league

We run an awful scheme for what they are. We are pulling and zone blocking. With our RB corps I want to see us line up and put a hat on someone and push them back. Get 4 yards and wear them down.

DawgFromOxford
08-30-2025, 12:54 PM
O line is a clear concern early. Penalties have kept us from breaking the game open.

Defense hasn?t been exceptional but has more or less made plays when needed minus what should?ve been a pick 6

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:55 PM
I thought Shapen looked good other than 1 decision.

he is good enough to throw people open and with anticipation and he needs to freaking do it. He is waiting for guys to come out of breaks and turn around. He throws that INT on time instead of waiting for him to turn around and wait for it, it's an easy 7 yard gain. 5th year senior, he needs to step up

gravedigger
08-30-2025, 12:55 PM
I think we are barely average

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:56 PM
He is fairly accurate when he makes the right read but I just think this offense needs a QB that runs to be effective.

losing Arnold probably cost us 3 more wins this year

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 12:56 PM
Arch manning is 5/10 for 26 yards in the first half. Don't know why, but this makes me feel better. It's still extremely early in the season, and even immensely talented players/teams can take a second to get going. Granted they're playing a great team, but still. Get this team in gear, Lebby

Now that's Heisman hay right there. Everyone else should just forget trying.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 12:57 PM
I think we are barely average

we are def below average from what ive seen but have the potential (mostly OL step up) to be average.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 12:57 PM
We bout to kick their ass

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:01 PM
That was a blitz that didn't get through at all. Come on

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:02 PM
Good job. Now TD

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:05 PM
Stop holding!

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 01:05 PM
We bout to kick their ass

Were

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:05 PM
this is insane

Brobi-wan
08-30-2025, 01:05 PM
What a dumbass hold

starkvegasdawg
08-30-2025, 01:06 PM
We've stepped on our own dicks way too much this game.

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 01:06 PM
Bench him, now! Stupid

Brobi-wan
08-30-2025, 01:06 PM
We should be up by 11, minimum

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:07 PM
ngl that should not have been called. horrible call by the refs, but with how touchy they've been today you gotta let him go

Bdawg
08-30-2025, 01:08 PM
Are we so stupid to not line up correctly!!!

Dawgology
08-30-2025, 01:08 PM
Our offense has cost us 14 points. This is inexcusable. What a ****ing joke

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:08 PM
Lebby, this is you. Do better

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:09 PM
Like them in his ass there.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:09 PM
we just have to get out of here with a W and spend all week working on cleaning up the slop

EdwardDrayton
08-30-2025, 01:11 PM
We've stepped on our own dicks way too much this game.

^^^^^

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 01:11 PM
Like them in his ass there.

Did we not have refs at our scrimmages?! 3 illegal formation penalties bc our tackles are in the backfield

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 01:12 PM
ngl that should not have been called. horrible call by the refs, but with how touchy they've been today you gotta let him go

Or... you don't hold the guy. That was absolutely the dumbest penalty I've ever seen in my life and that's not hyperbole.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:13 PM
Or... you don't hold the guy. That was absolutely the dumbest penalty I've ever seen in my life and that's not hyperbole.

that does not get called 7/10 times. agreed, you don't do it. but the refs have been bad. it was a make up for the phantom roughness call on USM

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:14 PM
Or... you don't hold the guy. That was absolutely the dumbest penalty I've ever seen in my life and that's not hyperbole.

I've seen dumber. But that one was incredibly dumb. Unnecessary.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:16 PM
lets see how this game ends up I'm going to try to be cautiously optimistic. we are clearly much better than them and they're only in the game because we are beating ourselves.

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 01:16 PM
Damn. Ike to smart for his own good. He had a foot down

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:17 PM
We still look really poorly coached. So many pre-snap penalties. When you can't even line up right, that's coaching. This staff needs to go.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:17 PM
TD here, and we can move attention to ASU. Feeling better about our staff with this 2nd half start

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 01:18 PM
We still look really poorly coached. So many pre-snap penalties. When you can't even line up right, that's coaching. This staff needs to go.

It?s the details. Steen was on extra point. Steen got hurt. And we only have 10 on the next extra point. Almost miss it.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:22 PM
That was the easiest targeting call ever and they get it wrong.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:23 PM
We are clicking now.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 01:24 PM
Pick 6 coming?

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:25 PM
We look like an sec team this half

HoopsDawg
08-30-2025, 01:26 PM
Oline looks better with Lewis and Reese.

R2Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:26 PM
Half time adjustments seemed to have worked.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:26 PM
Coaches got us calmed down and right at half time. massively good sign

War Machine Dawg
08-30-2025, 01:26 PM
That was the easiest targeting call ever and they get it wrong.

Nah, that wasn't targeting. I'd have been pissed if one of our players got ejected for that.

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:27 PM
Oline looks better with Lewis and Reese.

yeah need to keep it here for next week

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 01:27 PM
We definitely look better. Maybe we all had diarrhea.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:27 PM
Coaches got us calmed down and right at half time. massively good sign

^^^

Turfdawg67
08-30-2025, 01:33 PM
Half time adjustments seemed to have worked.

Looking like a different team. That could've been pick number three.

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:33 PM
We bout to kick their ass

^^^

Brobi-wan
08-30-2025, 01:34 PM
Everyone on the field knows Shapen isn’t catching a pass and heading upfield.

Bothrops
08-30-2025, 01:34 PM
^^^

^^^

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:36 PM
Everyone on the field knows Shapen isn’t catching a pass and heading upfield.

Love that formation for later in the season with KT. Im good working on it now while the game is out of reach

msstate7
08-30-2025, 01:37 PM
Who is 2nd string qb?

DEDawg
08-30-2025, 01:38 PM
Who is 2nd string qb?

LK