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Coach34
08-04-2025, 05:23 PM
Getting a look at practice. Always helps to get an experienced coach and another pair of eyes for evals

Todd4State
08-04-2025, 06:41 PM
And for the pearl clutchers I am fine with this.

vv83
08-04-2025, 07:50 PM
Happy to have a proven guy assisting

Tripp McNeely
08-04-2025, 08:05 PM
Nm

AlSwearengen
08-04-2025, 08:38 PM
I think the days of being offended by anything concerning college football are gone.

Extendedcab
08-04-2025, 09:07 PM
I think the days of being offended by anything concerning college football are gone.

I think you are right.

TrapGame
08-04-2025, 09:48 PM
Sounds like Art may be taking a more active role advising Lebby.

And I am not bothered by that one bit. Put him in a maroon hoodie and give him a headset as far as I'm concerned.

Brobi-wan
08-04-2025, 10:39 PM
Was anyone on this board really loud about Art being a problem?

CaptainObvious
08-04-2025, 11:26 PM
Bring Kendall on board too and let's get this thing rolling in the right direction!

Coach34
08-05-2025, 01:24 AM
Was anyone on this board really loud about Art being a problem?

Yes. Had a few talking about not supporting the program anymore if Art was around the program

Dawgface
08-05-2025, 06:53 AM
Yes. Had a few talking about not supporting the program anymore if Art was around the program

Today the landscape of college football has changed for the worse as we all know. Many simple don’t give a rats about the game anymore so I imagine those that don’t support AB have already checked out anyway. ✋

Cowbell
08-05-2025, 07:46 AM
Yes. Had a few talking about not supporting the program anymore if Art was around the program

Yes there were. Glad he is in town

TrapGame
08-05-2025, 08:51 AM
Was anyone on this board really loud about Art being a problem?

There were a few. However, another board had the blue hairs and lunch pail farmers in an uproar over this.

MBDawg601
08-05-2025, 09:28 AM
Not supporting the program? Where has there support gotten us? Get Art a spot on the staff and let's put some emphasis on winning football games instead of being "moral high road" bottom feeders in the SEC.

SaintDawg
08-05-2025, 10:48 AM
Not supporting the program? Where has there support gotten us? Get Art a spot on the staff and let's put some emphasis on winning football games instead of being "morale high road" bottom feeders in the SEC.
Zactly right. I could care less what a coach does in his own private time. The old ways of the college landscape are gone and they aint never coming back. Just win baby. It cures everything.

DEDawg
08-05-2025, 10:59 AM
Was anyone on this board really loud about Art being a problem?

Oh yeah. To that guys credit i dont think ive seen him post since we hired lebby

MBDawg601
08-05-2025, 11:11 AM
Oh yeah. To that guys credit i dont think ive seen him post since we hired lebby

That guy is now an Auburn fan.

Todd4State
08-05-2025, 02:17 PM
Zactly right. I could care less what a coach does in his own private time. The old ways of the college landscape are gone and they aint never coming back. Just win baby. It cures everything.

I would classify what Briles did as poor judgement and management of a situation.

Really Clark?
08-05-2025, 02:52 PM
Zactly right. I could care less what a coach does in his own private time. The old ways of the college landscape are gone and they aint never coming back. Just win baby. It cures everything.

How would the Baylor case and Briles involvement be considered private time?

Dawgface
08-05-2025, 03:10 PM
I would classify what Briles did as poor judgement and management of a situation.

To put it mildly.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33365146/the-line-art-briles-downfall-baylor-hire-grambling-state

Ranchdawg
08-05-2025, 03:12 PM
Moral high ground! Hahaha what Freeze did at ole miss was almost as bad. Heck Freeze had hookers for his player/recruits. Briles did not actually tell his stupid players to go and rape women. He did what his school president, athletic director and other coaches had let happen. The big cover up!

BrunswickDawg
08-05-2025, 03:35 PM
Moral high ground! Hahaha what Freeze did at ole miss was almost as bad. Heck Freeze had hookers for his player/recruits. Briles did not actually tell his stupid players to go and rape women. He did what his school president, athletic director and other coaches had let happen. The big cover up!

One of life's great ironies - that Ken Starr was brought down by a cover up of scandal

CaptainObvious
08-05-2025, 05:28 PM
So we finally get some real football info to talk about and we transition the discussion to Baylor's major faux pas. Did we Owen anything from today's practices we didn't already know?

EdwardDrayton
08-05-2025, 09:31 PM
The Right Reverend has been added to the staff as a burner phone consultant for Briles.

99jc
08-06-2025, 08:25 AM
I would love to have Briles on the staff. We live in a world full of coverups so what's the big deal.

BuckyIsAB****
08-06-2025, 09:08 PM
Getting a look at practice. Always helps to get an experienced coach and another pair of eyes for evals

If we made him the head coach tomorrow we would be a better program. Not defending what he did and its not acceptable but he?s a winner

Coach34
08-06-2025, 09:13 PM
If we made him the head coach tomorrow we would be a better program. Not defending what he did and its not acceptable but he?s a winner

You’ll get no argument from me. I think he should be paid 100K tomorrow as an “offensive analyst”

That’s what we do with college football’s **** ups- hire them as analysts

SaintDawg
08-06-2025, 09:38 PM
How would the Baylor case and Briles involvement be considered private time?

I fail to see what part of my statement mentioned Baylor or Briles. I was agreeing with the post and said I do not care what a coach does in his off time. Point being, I do not care about his past. Sorry if I misspoke, Mr. Language Policeman

parabrave
08-06-2025, 11:55 PM
You’ll get no argument from me. I think he should be paid 100K tomorrow as an “offensive analyst”

That’s what we do with college football’s **** ups- hire them as analysts

It worked for Saban

TrapGame
08-07-2025, 08:20 AM
If we made him the head coach tomorrow we would be a better program. Not defending what he did and its not acceptable but he?s a winner

Having him this involved with the program where he's taking an active role in practice evaluations is getting pretty close. It will make us a lot better going forward. Hell, we may actually have a legit shot at going bowling now.

Really Clark?
08-07-2025, 08:38 AM
I fail to see what part of my statement mentioned Baylor or Briles. I was agreeing with the post and said I do not care what a coach does in his off time. Point being, I do not care about his past. Sorry if I misspoke, Mr. Language Policeman

The post you quoted said nothing about private time. This thread is over a person whose issues were school and athletic program related, very public issues not private. That was my contention with your post. I don't have any problems with Art being out here looking at practice with his son in law.

Santiago
08-07-2025, 09:53 AM
Moral high ground! Hahaha what Freeze did at ole miss was almost as bad. Heck Freeze had hookers for his player/recruits. Briles did not actually tell his stupid players to go and rape women. He did what his school president, athletic director and other coaches had let happen. The big cover up!

It is old news, but Chris Peterson called out Briles for taking a transfer player he kicked off the team for domestic issues, and warned Briles not to take him. The woman he later raped at Baylor might disagree with you.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/baylor-sexual-assault-rape-art-briles-chris-peterson-sam-ukwuachu-domestic-violence/1aycgdek6n9jiz2hwro8126lu

hind sight gets to us all, so no judging on it. Just saying it is a little more than comparing to Freeze.

Political Hack
08-07-2025, 09:54 AM
Moral integrity is a characteristic of past humanity. It's no longer applicable. Winning is all that matters.

I think it's absolutely disgusting, but that's where we currently find ourselves.

MBDawg601
08-07-2025, 10:11 AM
It is old news, but Chris Peterson called out Briles for taking a transfer player he kicked off the team for domestic issues, and warned Briles not to take him. The woman he later raped at Baylor might disagree with you.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/baylor-sexual-assault-rape-art-briles-chris-peterson-sam-ukwuachu-domestic-violence/1aycgdek6n9jiz2hwro8126lu

hind sight gets to us all, so no judging on it. Just saying it is a little more than comparing to Freeze.

Very odd stance for Chris Peterson to pull an "I told you so" card on that. It was a terrible thing that happened and no-one person is condoning the guy's actions but come on man... Tell me you want to be in the news without telling me you want to be in the news.

Leroy Jenkins
08-07-2025, 10:29 AM
It worked for Saban

I called it "The Nick Saban Home for Wayward and Rehabilitated Coaches".

Santiago
08-07-2025, 11:03 AM
Very odd stance for Chris Peterson to pull an "I told you so" card on that. It was a terrible thing that happened and no-one person is condoning the guy's actions but come on man... Tell me you want to be in the news without telling me you want to be in the news.

Football is secondary to people being injured.
Peterson was livid about it.

99jc
08-07-2025, 01:37 PM
Football is secondary to people being injured.
Peterson was livid about it.

I agree with Peterson

MBDawg601
08-07-2025, 03:01 PM
Football is secondary to people being injured.
Peterson was livid about it.

Yeah just do not see the need for the ?I told you so? segment. It?s a terrible thing that could not entirely be prevented, if not at Baylor then likely somewhere else. Just my thoughts on it.

Gutter Cobreh
08-08-2025, 07:20 AM
If we made him the head coach tomorrow we would be a better program. Not defending what he did and its not acceptable but he?s a winner


You’ll get no argument from me. I think he should be paid 100K tomorrow as an “offensive analyst”

That’s what we do with college football’s **** ups- hire them as analysts

You two finally agree on something... never thought I'd see it... the world is healing!

StarkVegasSteve
08-08-2025, 08:27 AM
Moral integrity is a characteristic of past humanity. It's no longer applicable. Winning is all that matters.

I think it's absolutely disgusting, but that's where we currently find ourselves.

Winning is all that's ever mattered. If it didn't we never would've moved on from Rockey Felker, never would've hired a known cheater in Jackie, kept good ole Sly Croom, and never would've hired Dan Mullen who called the entire athletic dept losers in his first meeting.

We can act like winning matters more now, but we're lying to ourselves if we do. Winning is all that has ever and should ever matter. You're not measured by how many people are on the Dean's List as a HC, you're measured by Ws and Ls. A coach has never been fired because a kid got a 0.4 GPA, because those can be fixed. Ask Jackie. But coaches are fired all the times because they have too few Ws and too many Ls.

Thick
08-08-2025, 10:18 AM
Winning is all that's ever mattered. If it didn't we never would've moved on from Rockey Felker, never would've hired a known cheater in Jackie, kept good ole Sly Croom, and never would've hired Dan Mullen who called the entire athletic dept losers in his first meeting.

We can act like winning matters more now, but we're lying to ourselves if we do. Winning is all that has ever and should ever matter. You're not measured by how many people are on the Dean's List as a HC, you're measured by Ws and Ls. A coach has never been fired because a kid got a 0.4 GPA, because those can be fixed. Ask Jackie. But coaches are fired all the times because they have too few Ws and too many Ls.

True!

DEDawg
08-08-2025, 11:33 AM
So is he still at practice each day or was it a 1 day thing? Any chance we see him with a headset or on the sidelines?

StarkVegasSteve
08-08-2025, 12:42 PM
So is he still at practice each day or was it a 1 day thing? Any chance we see him with a headset or on the sidelines?

I can unequivocally guarantee you will not see him with a headset on the sidelines. He's in Starkville a good bit, since his daughter lives there, but he will not be on staff in any official capacity. He was at half the games last year and I'd expect him at around the same this year.

DEDawg
08-08-2025, 08:16 PM
I can unequivocally guarantee you will not see him with a headset on the sidelines. He's in Starkville a good bit, since his daughter lives there, but he will not be on staff in any official capacity. He was at half the games last year and I'd expect him at around the same this year.

ah that sucks. I like Lebby but you don't know what you don't know and Art could help tremendously there

BuckyIsAB****
08-09-2025, 08:45 AM
You two finally agree on something... never thought I'd see it... the world is healing!

We agree on a lot tbh haha I just don?t give him the satisfaction of posting I agree

Coach34
08-09-2025, 09:19 AM
ah that sucks. I like Lebby but you don't know what you don't know and Art could help tremendously there

There ways he can help without being at practice everyday. He could have practice film access to watch what is going on everyday and give Lebby his thoughts on what he sees. Teams have drones filming practice and shit now. Everything is captured

FISHDAWG
08-09-2025, 04:30 PM
There ways he can help without being at practice everyday. He could have practice film access to watch what is going on everyday and give Lebby his thoughts on what he sees. Teams have drones filming practice and shit now. Everything is captured

Totally agree... I'm on record saying pay the man. Screw the virtue signaling

Political Hack
08-10-2025, 07:59 PM
Winning matters is like saying oxygen matters. Sacrificing moral integrity in an attempt to win is a separate issue.

Dawgology
08-10-2025, 09:51 PM
Make him OC immediately. Reading the article it sounds like the school didn’t handle some of the allegations correctly. It also sounds like they got caught in the #metoo virtue signaling movement and lawsuit payout era. There’s a lot of allegations there with no charges, dismissed charges, and women so angry about what happened that they will happily take money from the university…

CaptainObvious
08-10-2025, 09:55 PM
Winning matters is like saying oxygen matters. Sacrificing moral integrity in an attempt to win is a separate issue.

I feel confident, with 12 National Championships, there have been Alabama fans that probably offered to sell their mother's kidneys if it meant winning!

Based on our football history, I also surmise Mississippi State has chosen to take the moral integrity route more than most college football teams with the exception of maybe Rice, Vandy and Kansas.

Brobi-wan
08-10-2025, 10:38 PM
I think sacrificing moral integrity to win is what everyone does. In most cases, it only matters when it doesn’t work any longer. It’s just about how much you’re willing to sacrifice.

Todd4State
08-11-2025, 12:06 AM
I feel confident, with 12 National Championships, there have been Alabama fans that probably offered to sell their mother's kidneys if it meant winning!

Based on our football history, I also surmise Mississippi State has chosen to take the moral integrity route more than most college football teams with the exception of maybe Rice, Vandy and Kansas.

Bear Bryant was far from who Alabama fans make him out to be.

Todd4State
08-11-2025, 12:13 AM
Make him OC immediately. Reading the article it sounds like the school didn’t handle some of the allegations correctly. It also sounds like they got caught in the #metoo virtue signaling movement and lawsuit payout era. There’s a lot of allegations there with no charges, dismissed charges, and women so angry about what happened that they will happily take money from the university…

Well, the thing about it this. It's Lebby's family that he married into. How many of us have had family members go to jail for something and then they get out later. Does that mean that they never get to be involved with their family ever again? No.

It's another ridiculous media double standard.

I just wish for once that pro athletes could comb through journalist's personal lives and then air their dirty laundry for all the world to see while taking away their journalism awards.

And we have fans complaining about MSU not giving fans enough access. Well, stuff like this is why teams like MSU don't just give the media carte blance media access.

Todd4State
08-11-2025, 12:16 AM
I think sacrificing moral integrity to win is what everyone does. In most cases, it only matters when it doesn’t work any longer. It’s just about how much you’re willing to sacrifice.

No one is perfect. I remember Joe Paterno talking about he didn't want to leave college football to the Jackie Sherrill's of the world. In the meantime, while Jackie was appearing at hospitals dressed as a clown to entertain sick children on his own time Joe Paterno was covering up one of the biggest scandals while his DC was molesting children. I think we all should be thankful that the college football world wasn't left to the Joe Paterno's out there.

StarkVegasSteve
08-11-2025, 08:19 AM
I know this for pretty much a guarantee, Art gets all our film and studies it through the week. He's helping Lebby out a lot behind the scenes, he was actually the one that told Jeff last year that establishing the run and mixing in deep shots was the recipe for last year. It's a little bit how Hugh Freeze was helping Kirby and UGA out in the 17 and 18 seasons. It's nothing official but I'm fairly certain he has an iPad with all the cut-ups on it just like the players do.

Political Hack
08-11-2025, 01:51 PM
No one is perfect. I remember Joe Paterno talking about he didn't want to leave college football to the Jackie Sherrill's of the world. In the meantime, while Jackie was appearing at hospitals dressed as a clown to entertain sick children on his own time Joe Paterno was covering up one of the biggest scandals while his DC was molesting children. I think we all should be thankful that the college football world wasn't left to the Joe Paterno's out there.

Great point. Lots of gray area here... but I don't expect Briles to help us make some significant leap vs the rest of the SEC. If we had sold our souls to acquire Cam Newton, I get it. Not for this one though.