Msu Football History

[basedog]

The fact is overall we have history overall of not being very good in the Sec of beating those teams. We have a overall losing sec record. So, for those posted how things "will change" "we are last" "want recover".....makes me laugh somewhat. We have survived over the decades and yes things might not change as we never have been in the upper half of the Sec, nor we never will except for runs every once in a while. We use to say years ago IF we can just go bowling every 3 or 4 years out 10 we would be happy, LOL but true. Now it's we can win 5-7 wins every year is the motto and I think attainable. The sky isn't falling because the has always fallen for decades for Msu football. Let's put it this way, we are much better off now than say 40-50 years ago.
Yes, things have changed, so what, we will survive and yes again NIL has changed things along with transfer rules, but guess what, it's gonna change more. Have no clue if it gets worse or better.

I love Msu and wish the best for us, I ain't pissed off as bad as some are about this situation as I have seen the bad way more that the good as far as Msu football. I predict we will make a good run again one day or so LOL Hell it's our history!

Just saying and it's hard to read ED lots of days because it's always been "we eat our our" and will probably aways be. Social media such as message boards are fun but they are viscous now days also. We all have opinions and make up crap which start the pot.

Let's hope we get 5 wins with maybe 6.

[BrunswickDawg]

The hardest part of being an MSU fan is having the desire to win, while at the same time understanding the reality of our situation and reconciling them in someway.

What MSU, the SEC, and the NCAA did to our football program from 1944 through about 2011 was criminal. From firing Allyn McKeen, not supporting excellent coaches (Murray Warmath and Darryl Royal), scheduling LSU & Bama for 30 years and never playing in MS, abandoning Starkville as a venue for games (which strangled growth of the town), trumping up charges against Larry Gilliard, the persecution of Jackie, and the stupid case against Will Redmond - all parties involved did their damndest to keep MSU in it place.
And the power structure wants to keep things that way.

[basedog]

Very good Bruns!

[StarkVegasSteve]

The hardest part of being an MSU fan is having the desire to win, while at the same time understanding the reality of our situation and reconciling them in someway.

What MSU, the SEC, and the NCAA did to our football program from 1944 through about 2011 was criminal. From firing Allyn McKeen, not supporting excellent coaches (Murray Warmath and Darryl Royal), scheduling LSU & Bama for 30 years and never playing in MS, abandoning Starkville as a venue for games (which strangled growth of the town), trumping up charges against Larry Gilliard, the persecution of Jackie, and the stupid case against Will Redmond - all parties involved did their damndest to keep MSU in it place.
And the power structure wants to keep things that way.

So can someone older than me explain why we played in Jackson all those years? How did that make any sense whatsoever? Like you said, we choked the growth of Starkville for damn near 30 years because we MAYBE played two actual home games a year.

[Coach34]

What MSU, the SEC, and the NCAA did to our football program from 1944 through about 2011 was criminal. From firing Allyn McKeen, not supporting excellent coaches (Murray Warmath and Darryl Royal), scheduling LSU & Bama for 30 years and never playing in MS, abandoning Starkville as a venue for games (which strangled growth of the town), trumping up charges against Larry Gilliard, the persecution of Jackie, and the stupid case against Will Redmond - all parties involved did their damndest to keep MSU in it place.
And the power structure wants to keep things that way.

The same 6 teams have won the SEC title for the last 65 years. They dont want to let that go

[Coach34]

So can someone older than me explain why we played in Jackson all those years? How did that make any sense whatsoever? Like you said, we choked the growth of Starkville for damn near 30 years because we MAYBE played two actual home games a year.

Our program was extremely poor so we would sell home games to other schools or cities. Plus, Sville did not have the hotels to house people for home games. So to keep the sports programs alive- we just kept selling home games. We played Auburn in different cities in Alabama. We played LSU in BR like 22 straight seasons. We did start playing more games in Jackson as it started to become more of a money maker for us there. People just werent driving to Sville to go to a game

You got to look at the history and how poor we have been as a state and how it greatly affected our football program

[StarkVegasSteve]

Our program was extremely poor so we would sell home games to other schools or cities. Plus, Sville did not have the hotels to house people for home games. So to keep the sports programs alive- we just kept selling home games. We played Auburn in different cities in Alabama. We played LSU in BR like 22 straight seasons. We did start playing more games in Jackson as it started to become more of a money maker for us there. People just werent driving to Sville to go to a game

You got to look at the history and how poor we have been as a state and how it greatly affected our football program

But wouldn't we have made more money by just having the game on campus?? Seems like that would've made just as much, if not more, money and we would have helped the Starkville economy. Might have had more than 4 hotels before 2012 at that rate.

[parabrave]

Our program was extremely poor so we would sell home games to other schools or cities. Plus, Sville did not have the hotels to house people for home games. So to keep the sports programs alive- we just kept selling home games. We played Auburn in different cities in Alabama. We played LSU in BR like 22 straight seasons. We did start playing more games in Jackson as it started to become more of a money maker for us there. People just werent driving to Sville to go to a game

You got to look at the history and how poor we have been as a state and how it greatly affected our football program

Also getting to Starkville was a total pain in the ass up to 1992 when they started 4 laning 45. before that time most of 45v was a 2 lane HWY with no shoulders and it was white knuckle driving esp at night.

[BrunswickDawg]

Our program was extremely poor so we would sell home games to other schools or cities. Plus, Sville did not have the hotels to house people for home games. So to keep the sports programs alive- we just kept selling home games. We played Auburn in different cities in Alabama. We played LSU in BR like 22 straight seasons. We did start playing more games in Jackson as it started to become more of a money maker for us there. People just werent driving to Sville to go to a game

You got to look at the history and how poor we have been as a state and how it greatly affected our football program

Oxford was smaller than Starkville back then, and just as hard for most of their fanbase to get to. But, they still managed to not have the same issues.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also getting to Starkville was a total pain in the ass up to 1992 when they started 4 laning 45. before that time most of 45v was a 2 lane HWY with no shoulders and it was white knuckle driving esp at night.

I remember before 82 was 4 lane all the way and you had to take 182 right after Mathiston and be on that two lane road for like the last 15 miles and that was a pain in the butt. I can't imagine 45 being 2 lane all the way.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Oxford was smaller than Starkville back then, and just as hard for most of their fanbase to get to. But, they still managed to not have the same issues.

And that was also around the same time that Ole Miss REALLY started embracing out of state students. This brought more money to Ole Miss and started bringing big time money to the city of Oxford.

[BrunswickDawg]

Also getting to Starkville was a total pain in the ass up to 1992 when they started 4 laning 45. before that time most of 45v was a 2 lane HWY with no shoulders and it was white knuckle driving esp at night.

Having driven to Athens many times in the 1980s, it was just as bad. It was 85 miles from my home north of Atl to Sanford Stadium. Yeah, we could take I-75, to 285, to 85 - for about half. That last 40 miles on Ga 316 - that was 2 lanes from Norcross thru Dacula, and Winder was 2:30 to 3:00 hours of bumper to bumper gridlock. No one tailgated in Athens because you couldn't get there.

[gtowndawg]

This is why I've just about given up on State, our fans just can't get out of the loser mentality. People saying it's not worth investing in football to "only" win 7 games. Only? Historically, 7 wins is a great year for us. 7 wins (as an SEC school) means we are borderline top 25, we are relevant, we probably host an SEC gameday for a good on campus game (exposure), and we've had some good wins including a great win somewhere (many times Ole Miss). You are also playing in a decent bowl for 8 wins, which is a top 10% year for us historically. But now 7 wins is pointless and we shouldn't even try.

But all we want to do is fight about going back to a silly logo from 30 years ago (that means nothing to anyone nationally) and who will be the starting mid week pitcher next year. Our fans will be the one that kills this program and school.

[Todd4State]

But wouldn't we have made more money by just having the game on campus?? Seems like that would've made just as much, if not more, money and we would have helped the Starkville economy. Might have had more than 4 hotels before 2012 at that rate.

Davis Wade was a lot smaller at that time. Was more about crowd size than anything plus Jackson js centrally located. Ole Miss played as many games in Jackson as we did for the same reasons. Sometimes there would be doubleheaders of MSU/Ole Miss games at times.

[Todd4State]

And heck- we stopped playing in Jackson before Ole Miss did. I remember Ole Miss playing Arkansas and VMI at the Vet in the 1990's. MSU hasn't played in Jackson since the 1990 Egg Bowl.

[Coach34]

But wouldn't we have made more money by just having the game on campus?? Seems like that would've made just as much, if not more, money and we would have helped the Starkville economy. Might have had more than 4 hotels before 2012 at that rate.

Well not really as people didnt travel as much then. I only saw 2 football games on campus before I got to college. We would only average 18-20K for campus games. But would get 35-40K in Jackson. The 1980's and the growth of our economy in the USA and especially in Mississippi was huge for us. They bowled in the stadium in Jackson. Scott Field only held about 33K then but in 1980- The Egg Bowl was packed in Jackson and had over 60K there

[Todd4State]

This is why I've just about given up on State, our fans just can't get out of the loser mentality. People saying it's not worth investing in football to "only" win 7 games. Only? Historically, 7 wins is a great year for us. 7 wins (as an SEC school) means we are borderline top 25, we are relevant, we probably host an SEC gameday for a good on campus game (exposure), and we've had some good wins including a great win somewhere (many times Ole Miss). You are also playing in a decent bowl for 8 wins, which is a top 10% year for us historically. But now 7 wins is pointless and we shouldn't even try.

But all we want to do is fight about going back to a silly logo from 30 years ago (that means nothing to anyone nationally) and who will be the starting mid week pitcher next year. Our fans will be the one that kills this program and school.

I think our ceiling is 10 wins. So slightly higher than what we did with Dan, Jackie, etc.

It's a big jump to go from 6-8 wins to 8-10 every year but I think we can realistically do it with better scheduling and better recruiting.

[Coach34]

Davis Wade was a lot smaller at that time. Was more about crowd size than anything plus Jackson js centrally located. Ole Miss played as many games in Jackson as we did for the same reasons. Sometimes there would be doubleheaders of MSU/Ole Miss games at times.

October 29th, 1977

I saw State play Alabama in Jackson at 1pm...we had to exit the stadium. Went to the parking lot with my dad and hung out eating a hot dog and looking at the crazy LSU people tailgating. Went back in when the gates opened at 5:30- watched Mississippi play LSU on national TV.

An SEC doubleheader at one stadium

Edited to add- those that know Jackson- for big SEC games traffic would start backing up to a craawl on 55 all the way back past Northside side as it was only 2 lanes then.

[NWADAWG]

But wouldn't we have made more money by just having the game on campus?? Seems like that would've made just as much, if not more, money and we would have helped the Starkville economy. Might have had more than 4 hotels before 2012 at that rate.

Couldn't see the forest of long term vision for all the trees of short term survival. All cities should have, and routinely update, a 10 (or 20 or ??) year vision with action items on how to get there. They should have committee's with city employee, council members, and citizens that force the action items into completion. Otherwise the city will function in a paycheck to paycheck mentality.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Couldn't see the forest of long term vision for all the trees of short term survival. All cities should have, and routinely update, a 10 (or 20 or ??) year vision with action items on how to get there. They should have committee's with city employee, council members, and citizens that force the action items into completion. Otherwise the city will function in a paycheck to paycheck mentality.

Which is unfortunately how Starkville, and Mississippi State, functioned until about the last 15-20 years

[basedog]

It's pisses me off we are playing the Buzzards in Hattiesburg! No reason even it was a 2-1 deal. What a sh*t crap stadium anyway!

If you haven't been on their campus, you sure as hell ain't missing anything! What A Dump!!

[basedog]

Which is unfortunately how Starkville, and Mississippi State, functioned until about the last 15-20 years

Some of your questions you asked in a few of your post, pretty simple, poor decision makers in the athletic department, several sold our souls for a few dollars only! No visions, finally Carl Maddox did change a few things but he was old and pretty much was too late to do any good for Msu.

But we are way better off now days!

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's pisses me off we are playing the Buzzards in Hattiesburg! No reason even it was a 2-1 deal. What a sh*t crap stadium anyway!

If you haven't been on their campus, you sure as hell ain't missing anything! What A Dump!!

Cohen being Cohen. In 2027 we get to go to Troy!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Some of your questions you asked in a few of your post, pretty simple, poor decision makers in the athletic department, several sold our souls for a few dollars only! No visions, finally Carl Maddox did change a few things but he was old and pretty much was too late to do any good for Msu.

But we are way better off now days!

Templeton and his small minded and penny pinching nature kept us from really exploding as an athletic dept. Hell, thank god for President Zacharias or Templeton would've hired Bobby Wallace instead of Jackie.

He really was a plague on our athletic dept. He convinced everyone for so long that we were this poor school that had to pinch pennies, cut costs, and sell home games just to survive as an athletic dept.

[basedog]

Cohen being Cohen. In 2027 we get to go to Troy!!!

Yep and no doubt. Hiring the right AD is very important, no wonder our history has been so bad, LOL!

[basedog]

Templeton and his small minded and penny pinching nature kept us from really exploding as an athletic dept. Hell, thank god for President Zacharias or Templeton would've hired Bobby Wallace instead of Jackie.

He really was a plague on our athletic dept. He convinced everyone for so long that we were this poor school that had to pinch pennies, cut costs, and sell home games just to survive as an athletic dept.

Totally agree!

[Goldendawg]

Templeton and his small minded and penny pinching nature kept us from really exploding as an athletic dept. Hell, thank god for President Zacharias or Templeton would've hired Bobby Wallace instead of Jackie.

He really was a plague on our athletic dept. He convinced everyone for so long that we were this poor school that had to pinch pennies, cut costs, and sell home games just to survive as an athletic dept.

While I was completing my third career teaching Middle School for 11 years there was a Sports Illustrated book in the HS library that had the history to date at that publishing of every major college football program. Not only were our "powers to be" making all these football decisions like playing Alabama or LSU 20 or so straight times on the road as we played them continually for about 75 plus years , look what OM did in their "glory years" under Vaught. They didn't even play Alabama as a regular season game in those years and you should see their OOC opponents. You could even have a SW Conference cupcake like opponent designated as one of your SEC games and only had to play about 5 or 6 SEC games a year. They also had Vandy as a regular all those years and beyond. We have a terrible history of those running our program since our success after the 1940"s. Heck, as a preteen and teenager, every year we finished every season with a Murderer's Row of bama, Auburn, LSU and OM and many of those games in Jackson. No wonder our history is what it is! "Yes Sir, May I Have Another?"

[Coach34]

Terrible school location and then terrible school leadership doomed our programs for decades

[Pancho]

yea, should a been in tupelo

[basedog]

One thing that has improved in our small town StarkVegas. It’s come a long ways. We just have to get better to good in leadership from all involved in MSU. Football is important and hopefully we surprise everyone. Now days rosters can change quickly with portal as we know. The so called blue blood might buy big bucks for 25 4 and 5 stars every year but not all 25 will graduate there with either portal or overrated and transferring.

[Coach34]

And heck- we stopped playing in Jackson before Ole Miss did. I remember Ole Miss playing Arkansas and VMI at the Vet in the 1990's. MSU hasn't played in Jackson since the 1990 Egg Bowl.

Jackie said no more games in Jackson. We were about done there anyway- but there was a push to play at least 1 game there a year for the south Miss folks. Jackie ended that

[memsu06]

Couldn't see the forest of long term vision for all the trees of short term survival. All cities should have, and routinely update, a 10 (or 20 or ??) year vision with action items on how to get there. They should have committee's with city employee, council members, and citizens that force the action items into completion. Otherwise the city will function in a paycheck to paycheck mentality.

It's probably been 8 years since I've been to Starkville. Earlier this year I had a jobsite visit near Starkville and stayed in town.

There's so much more to do and development everywhere contrasted with what it was like when I was there during the Croom years.

I have to think that the success Mullen had actually brought good attention to Starkville and made it a more inviting town.

All the more reason we really need to make an effort to be competitive in the SEC in football.

Still going to be hard to compete when we're a poor lower population state with 2 SEC schools.

[1eyedog]

I have repeated this ad nauseam ........I am old and remember when the ONLY club in STARK?VUHL? burned down....that?s how pathetic is was. As on old observer it is amazing how that other school has flipped the coverage from hateful racist school to where ?enlightened? people want to go. When you look at a game at the ?grove?.......the announcers almost have a sexual experience. The tv camera people focus on the most incredible striking coeds and milf?s under the fake chandeliers and cold chicken tinders and ham. While at Stark?vuhl? the cameras focus on the most overweight, unattractive or half dressed fat frat boys with painted bodies instead of the incredible food and cookers and striking people. You may find that great but it doesn?t fly with the Texas or Georgia money people. I?m sure I will get hate for this, but I?ve seen both game days and the ?DOGS? need the pirate the national coverage.....expand the footprint.....and change the national persona.....JMHO

[Cowbeller]

This is why I've just about given up on State, our fans just can't get out of the loser mentality. People saying it's not worth investing in football to "only" win 7 games. Only? Historically, 7 wins is a great year for us. 7 wins (as an SEC school) means we are borderline top 25, we are relevant, we probably host an SEC gameday for a good on campus game (exposure), and we've had some good wins including a great win somewhere (many times Ole Miss). You are also playing in a decent bowl for 8 wins, which is a top 10% year for us historically. But now 7 wins is pointless and we shouldn't even try.

But all we want to do is fight about going back to a silly logo from 30 years ago (that means nothing to anyone nationally) and who will be the starting mid week pitcher next year. Our fans will be the one that kills this program and school.

This is exactly the loser mentality you have a problem with. Set the bar at 9 and chase that, bowls do not matter anymore so go for the playoff. You think any respectable program in the country has to have this conversation every week on a message board.

And I promise no one knows the state script is us. ESPN has not even updated it on our broadcasts. So yea go with the better logo and start winning until people realize it is us. Worked with the banner M.

[Cowbeller]

I have repeated this ad nauseam ........I am old and remember when the ONLY club in STARK?VUHL? burned down....that?s how pathetic is was. As on old observer it is amazing how that other school has flipped the coverage from hateful racist school to where ?enlightened? people want to go. When you look at a game at the ?grove?.......the announcers almost have a sexual experience. The tv camera people focus on the most incredible striking coeds and milf?s under the fake chandeliers and cold chicken tinders and ham. While at Stark?vuhl? the cameras focus on the most overweight, unattractive or half dressed fat frat boys with painted bodies instead of the incredible food and cookers and striking people. You may find that great but it doesn?t fly with the Texas or Georgia money people. I?m sure I will get hate for this, but I?ve seen both game days and the ?DOGS? need the pirate the national coverage.....expand the footprint.....and change the national persona.....JMHO

Not far off with this one.

[parabrave]

I remember before 82 was 4 lane all the way and you had to take 182 right after Mathiston and be on that two lane road for like the last 15 miles and that was a pain in the butt. I can't imagine 45 being 2 lane all the way.

Most of it north of Meridian to Macon was on a dike going through the swamps. No room for swerving at all. You can still see the old bridges on parts south of Macon.

[CaptainObvious]

It WILL start with the Head Coach. The Powers that be HAVE to convince a Top Notch Coach to take on the project! Doesn't have to be Sabanesq! But definitely needs to be at or above Kiffin level! Start there. Drill into the Wealthy Alum including Professional athletes that their donations are not only needed but will get their Name on Buildings, Streets, Parade Fields, Parking lots, Message Boards, Score Boards, Private Suites, South End Zone Pavilions, etc....

[Bothrops]

We dont even claim 1940 as a National Championship. We dont even care to bring our old helmets back. This isn't serious business here.

[MoreCowbell]

Also what makes now harder, at least for me, was I have only been alive during our peaks.

Born in 88 I grew up becoming a fan when the Kang was rolling. West championship, 10-2 Peach Bowl win. Madkin, JJ Johnson, Dicenzo, Jerious, Moulds. Joe Lee Dunn defenses. We were legit during my coming of age years.

Then we hired Croom and sucks because we were on probation but ended up winning 7 and a bowl game in 2007.

Hired Mullen, 9 win seasons, Michigan, Dak, 2014, #1, stayed in top 25, 2017, Fitz. NFL talent everywhere.

Even 2018 had #1 defense and 3 first rounders. Stayed in top 25.

Won 9 with Leach although I knew we were declining and was the most boring and least exciting 9 win season ever.

So during my lifespan our program has been at its best. Reality is setting in I will never see a run again. Guess I have been lucky enough to grow up during the best era Miss. State will ever have.

[Todd4State]

We dont even claim 1940 as a National Championship. We dont even care to bring our old helmets back. This isn't serious business here.

It's like MSU is scared to promote itself in football. But sometimes the problem is the fans because let's say MSU has a top 15 recruiting class. We're immediately going to have fans who are going to be like "we're going to be embarrassed if they don't pan out."

Like we have fans that don't want to claim the 1940 NC because "it's embarrassing and it looks like something Ole Miss would do."

The helmet is really weird and I think that has more to do with LT than anything at least the root of it anyway. 15 out of the other 16 schools would just bring the logo back and be done with it.

[Todd4State]

It WILL start with the Head Coach. The Powers that be HAVE to convince a Top Notch Coach to take on the project! Doesn't have to be Sabanesq! But definitely needs to be at or above Kiffin level! Start there. Drill into the Wealthy Alum including Professional athletes that their donations are not only needed but will get their Name on Buildings, Streets, Parade Fields, Parking lots, Message Boards, Score Boards, Private Suites, South End Zone Pavilions, etc....

I agree 100%. Look at what O'Connor has done in baseball.

There is a lot of untapped potential in football booster wise and I think it's because MSU simply doesn't pursue them. Byrne did a good job of that with Dan. Probably not a coincidence.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I agree 100%. Look at what O'Connor has done in baseball.

There is a lot of untapped potential in football booster wise and I think it's because MSU simply doesn't pursue them. Byrne did a good job of that with Dan. Probably not a coincidence.

Dan walked in a room of high level boosters his first week, called them all losers, cussed them out, and then left. Byrne backed him up on that and then the ones that stayed got in line and we were pretty streamlined under Bryne, Strick, and Mullen. Unfortunately Cohen blew up the streamline for baseball. That ran a lot of the boosters off.

We pursue plenty of high level boosters but a lot stayed away because of Cohen. We're getting some of them back currently, including a VERY BIG ONE that could be on the verge of making a Leo Seal type donation.

[CaptainObvious]

Dan walked in a room of high level boosters his first week, called them all losers, cussed them out, and then left. Byrne backed him up on that and then the ones that stayed got in line and we were pretty streamlined under Bryne, Strick, and Mullen. Unfortunately Cohen blew up the streamline for baseball. That ran a lot of the boosters off.

We pursue plenty of high level boosters but a lot stayed away because of Cohen. We're getting some of them back currently, including a VERY BIG ONE that could be on the verge of making a Leo Seal type donation.

Good to hear about a big time booster stepping up. But.... these NFL guys have got to be pursued hard, even on the knees and begging by Keenum. Give them a building like I said. Hell, give them an Honorary Doctorate Degree!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Good to hear about a big time booster stepping up. But.... these NFL guys have got to be pursued hard, even on the knees and begging by Keenum. Give them a building like I said. Hell, give them an Honorary Doctorate Degree!

Most NFL players are not donating to their schools. It's just not a thing they do. And that's not just a State thing. It's really at any college. I mean Bama has billions in NFL contracts and their guys don't really give back to Bama other than 25-50K here and there, which ours do as well. Dak has donated more than a few times. Jeff and Chris Jones have as well.

[CaptainObvious]

So our Multi-millionaires can't give back but our Hundredaires are expected to step up and carry the program. Saban is giving back hundreds of thousands to Bama. Too bad we haven't had a multi- million dollar head coach retire at State.

[CaptainObvious]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16n4gry7Ap/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Shaq off the Top Rope!

[Coach34]

So our Multi-millionaires can't give back but our Hundredaires are expected to step up and carry the program. Saban is giving back hundreds of thousands to Bama. Too bad we haven't had a multi- million dollar head coach retire at State.

Nope. Guys that make it usually have their Bros on payroll with them and have to get Momma a house plus other goodies. Not to mention they spend some damn money on everyday life.

[parabrave]

Dan walked in a room of high level boosters his first week, called them all losers, cussed them out, and then left. Byrne backed him up on that and then the ones that stayed got in line and we were pretty streamlined under Bryne, Strick, and Mullen. Unfortunately Cohen blew up the streamline for baseball. That ran a lot of the boosters off.

We pursue plenty of high level boosters but a lot stayed away because of Cohen. We're getting some of them back currently, including a VERY BIG ONE that could be on the verge of making a Leo Seal type donation.

You talking about a former reliever???? I know of a former player who was really trying to hide his donation from his wife, so the rumor that a few of our former MLB players pooled their money is kinda true.

[parabrave]

Most NFL players are not donating to their schools. It's just not a thing they do. And that's not just a State thing. It's really at any college. I mean Bama has billions in NFL contracts and their guys don't really give back to Bama other than 25-50K here and there, which ours do as well. Dak has donated more than a few times. Jeff and Chris Jones have as well.

When the U was real big back in the 80's and 90s you had better believe the former players supported them and still do.

[Coach34]

You talking about a former reliever???? I know of a former player who was really trying to hide his donation from his wife, so the rumor that a few of our former MLB players pooled their money is kinda true.

Our baseball guys stepped the **** up. What they did changed our program for the next decade. They made sure we didnt fall behind

[War Machine Dawg]

Oxford was smaller than Starkville back then, and just as hard for most of their fanbase to get to. But, they still managed to not have the same issues.

It's a stereotype, but stereotypes exist for a reason. Their school was producing doctors and lawyers, ours was putting out farmers. In terms of disposable income and time to go to football games, those weren't even comparable until maybe the 90s. Their fans had the time and money to support a football program in Oxford and ours didn't. A bit of an oversimplification, but indisputably true.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You talking about a former reliever???? I know of a former player who was really trying to hide his donation from his wife, so the rumor that a few of our former MLB players pooled their money is kinda true.

Not a former reliever. He did not play sports at Mississippi State, or sports anywhere.

[mparkerfd20]

You talking about a former reliever???? I know of a former player who was really trying to hide his donation from his wife, so the rumor that a few of our former MLB players pooled their money is kinda true.

So Paps was one that stepped up?