Offseason NIL/Portal Solution Thread

[Cowbell]

I enjoy the different perspectives that are brought to this board. It's gonna be a long 83 days now until we get to watch ball again so thought i would kick this thread off.

What are some long-term solution ideas to this mess we are in?

[parabrave]

Back to the original Transfer policy. When they get their money from the schools they sign a contract for a min of 3 years with an de-escalating buyout clause. Since they're getting money directly from the schools that should be legal.

[DownwardDawg]

Back to the original Transfer policy. When they get their money from the schools they sign a contract for a min of 3 years with an de-escalating buyout clause. Since they're getting money directly from the schools that should be legal.

Gotta be something like this. The transfer portal is what kills schools like State. If that gets shut down, we can compete for 7-9 wins again.

[MStateDawg]

NIl is fine. Players deserve to get paid. But the unlimited transfers with no penalty is what is killing college athletics.

Here's what I would do:
-5 years of eligibility for everyone. No additional years for any reason.
-1 transfer without penalty. Any additional transfer requires you sit out a year. This year counts against your 5.

[CaptainObvious]

NIl is fine. Players deserve to get paid. But the unlimited transfers with no penalty is what is killing college athletics.

Here's what I would do:
-5 years of eligibility for everyone. No additional years for any reason.
-1 transfer without penalty. Any additional transfer requires you sit out a year. This year counts against your 5.

Grandpaw. Tell me bout the good Ol' days when college athletes were students first and were considered Amateurs. Who screwed that up?

Why do they deserve to get paid?

Does the Research Student deserve to get paid if they help discover some breakthrough that brings $millions to the University? Do the Vet students deserve to get paid who treat small and large animals while learning?

Over-paying Coaches brought all this on. But Arch Manning getting more than half the football coaching staff combined is asinine. If he gets beat out he will carry a clipboard and still make more than half the Texas staff make combined! Ignorance is not confined to politicians any more!

[StarkVegasSteve]

The biggest thing is that we combined the portal annd unlimited transfers and NIL. If you take just one out then you do not have all the problems. Just my idea to fix it.

-5 years of eligibility
-one free transfer, unless you are a grad transfer and then you get an additional transfer.
-contracts have to become a thing because buyouts need to be a thing on these deals. Players cannot just keep walking on the agreements they sign with no penalty.
- I know this will never happen but a salary cap fixes everything. Every team has a cap of 30 million. Going over the cap makes you ineligible for postseason play.

[Quaoarsking]

Multi-year contracts are the solution.

If you want to transfer every year, you can, but you'll have to sign a 1 year contract and the team will know what they're getting.

[WPDawg]

The whole NIL thing is obviously a recruiting cheat. A player with no team to play for has in most cases no large value with their NIL. NIL is a collaborative stipend which benefits both parties. If a player wants to play for your school then they must sign over their NIL rights to that school for length of contract. It’s a partnership. One does not exist with the other. So NIL should be awarded to contracted school to use as they see fit to build their brand and athletic program and in return a bigger fanbase and enrollment.

All NIL monies received can be pooled by a school to distribute amongst all athletes as school sees fit. Obviously bigger contributors (or expected contributors) on the field will most likely benefit more. If a player’s contributions/productivity/stature bring more victories and more notoriety to your school, then that player’s salary will be more. But all team members should benefit to some degree and the wealth of a combined NIL pool can be used to spread the monies appropriately. Each school is governed to have a cap on total athlete salaries to retain a parity for competition.

Create contracts with each athlete that allows them to participate in competition for that school.
With that contract, the athlete is paid a salary set by athletic salary administration of that school. Contract can be reviewed annually.
The contract allows all NIL rights for that athlete to be held and used by the school until end of contract.

5 years of eligibility sounds good.
2 year minimum contract unless in 5th year.
Contracts can be canceled with mutual agreement. If player wants to cancel contract without mutual agreement then they will have to sit out of competition until end of contract. If player is not participating in team activities then their contract benefits would fall to a minimum award set in contract. That player sitting out would still count against a schools limits for roster size.

And with all that, where does the academics come in to play? Does an athlete still have to go to class or just concentrate on their sport? You would hope that an athlete can still benefit from obtaining some educational learning with free schooling in areas of interest or at least the school can provide environments that enrich them for life after sports. Interesting to listen to Dabo talk about what Clemson built for their Football Complex and made it a home away from home for their players to live and learn while enrolled. Maybe MSU has something similar but looks as though Clemson’s is outstanding.

[parabrave]

The whole NIL thing is obviously a recruiting cheat. A player with no team to play for has in most cases no large value with their NIL. NIL is a collaborative stipend which benefits both parties. If a player wants to play for your school then they must sign over their NIL rights to that school for length of contract. It’s a partnership. One does not exist with the other. So NIL should be awarded to contracted school to use as they see fit to build their brand and athletic program and in return a bigger fanbase and enrollment.

All NIL monies received can be pooled by a school to distribute amongst all athletes as school sees fit. Obviously bigger contributors (or expected contributors) on the field will most likely benefit more. If a player’s contributions/productivity/stature bring more victories and more notoriety to your school, then that player’s salary will be more. But all team members should benefit to some degree and the wealth of a combined NIL pool can be used to spread the monies appropriately. Each school is governed to have a cap on total athlete salaries to retain a parity for competition.

Create contracts with each athlete that allows them to participate in competition for that school.
With that contract, the athlete is paid a salary set by athletic salary administration of that school. Contract can be reviewed annually.
The contract allows all NIL rights for that athlete to be held and used by the school until end of contract.

5 years of eligibility sounds good.
2 year minimum contract unless in 5th year.
Contracts can be canceled with mutual agreement. If player wants to cancel contract without mutual agreement then they will have to sit out of competition until end of contract. If player is not participating in team activities then their contract benefits would fall to a minimum award set in contract. That player sitting out would still count against a schools limits for roster size.

And with all that, where does the academics come in to play? Does an athlete still have to go to class or just concentrate on their sport? You would hope that an athlete can still benefit from obtaining some educational learning with free schooling in areas of interest or at least the school can provide environments that enrich them for life after sports. Interesting to listen to Dabo talk about what Clemson built for their Football Complex and made it a home away from home for their players to live and learn while enrolled. Maybe MSU has something similar but looks as though Clemson’s is outstanding.

So you're saying bring back Athletic Dorms. One Male and one Female or a gender neutral Dorm?

[Cowbell]

Back to the original Transfer policy. When they get their money from the schools they sign a contract for a min of 3 years with an de-escalating buyout clause. Since they're getting money directly from the schools that should be legal.

This is where I am at. We need performance clauses for these kids

[Cowbell]

The biggest thing is that we combined the portal annd unlimited transfers and NIL. If you take just one out then you do not have all the problems. Just my idea to fix it.

-5 years of eligibility
-one free transfer, unless you are a grad transfer and then you get an additional transfer.
-contracts have to become a thing because buyouts need to be a thing on these deals. Players cannot just keep walking on the agreements they sign with no penalty.
- I know this will never happen but a salary cap fixes everything. Every team has a cap of 30 million. Going over the cap makes you ineligible for postseason play.

I like a salary cap but it would need an enforcement institution to go with it

[StarkVegasSteve]

I like a salary cap but it would need an enforcement institution to go with it

Well and the minute they try to institute one then a kid will sue, and win, by saying that a salary cap infringes upon their NIL earning potential.

I think the Deloitte thing was the NCAA's way of trying to institute a salary cap without instituting it but it's poorly thought out and will be torpedoed the second a kid sues the NCAA because Deloitte said their deal should only be worth 250K instead of the 850K they were offered.

[parabrave]

Well and the minute they try to institute one then a kid will sue, and win, by saying that a salary cap infringes upon their NIL earning potential.

I think the Deloitte thing was the NCAA's way of trying to institute a salary cap without instituting it but it's poorly thought out and will be torpedoed the second a kid sues the NCAA because Deloitte said their deal should only be worth 250K instead of the 850K they were offered.

Wait till Title 9 comes into play when the girls want to be paid the same as the Football starters.

[DownwardDawg]

Wait till Title 9 comes into play when the girls want to be paid the same as the Football starters.

I absolutely cannot wait for this to happen!!!
Burn it down.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Wait till Title 9 comes into play when the girls want to be paid the same as the Football starters.

Oh I would expect that to happen any day now.