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Coach34
06-09-2025, 04:28 PM
https://www.outkick.com/sports/house-settlement-nil-college-football-basketball-tough-decisions-being-made

BeardoMSU
06-09-2025, 05:33 PM
Paywall'd.

What are the cliffs?

Coach34
06-09-2025, 06:03 PM
Works for me

Coach34
06-09-2025, 06:05 PM
"How are they going to say one deal is different from the other," one athletic director pointed out to OutKick. So, every time our school or a third party has an idea for a partnership that exceeds $600, we're at the mercy of this system that will determine if it's legit. What happens when an athlete decides not to disclose their ‘NIL’ deal with the clearinghouse, and just pockets the money from a booster?

"These are the types of scenarios that will present themselves in the short term. We have no idea how the system is going to work, and you're going to have players get their deals rejected. This will only lead to further lawsuits. This will be a non-stop problem in the first year. But, we have to find ways to raise more money, as well. The high-profile schools aren't just spending $14 to $16 million that rev-share allows. If we want to keep up, there has to be an influx of money, and we're just talking about one year."

Coach34
06-09-2025, 06:05 PM
This athletic director isn't wrong. While plenty of people want to act as if this settlement will not lead to the ‘old days’ returning, my question is, how can it not? If a school agreed to a $3 million contract with the star receiver, but can only pay half of the deal because of the revenue-sharing cap, you think that player is going to take a cut?

Heck no, they want what was agreed upon, and the minute one NIL deal is denied, there will be further litigation. According to the College Sports Commission, if a deal is denied, both parties can enter ‘neutral arbitration’ that starts with an appeal.

Quaoarsking
06-09-2025, 06:24 PM
It all comes down to whether people who violate the rules will be punished so harshly that schools and fanbases are afraid to cheat, but also don't decide to leave the NCAA altogether and make their own new rules.

I don't have a lot of faith that that needle can be threaded, but I hope they figure it out.

Leroy Jenkins
06-09-2025, 06:33 PM
Bagmen everywhere coming out of retirement.

parabrave
06-09-2025, 06:35 PM
Bagmen everywhere coming out of retirement.

Dang just saved the revs job.

viverlibre
06-09-2025, 07:11 PM
I didn't read the article, but anything in there about bringing sanity to the portal process? Continual transferring of players is eventually going to lessen interest in CFB and do real damage. There's still time to get a handle on it and right the ship, but it needs to be done soon.

BeardoMSU
06-09-2025, 07:24 PM
Works for me

Thanks for posting the text, 34.

starkvegasdawg
06-09-2025, 07:46 PM
Am I the only one that saw the post title and thought it was about our upcoming football season?

CaptainObvious
06-09-2025, 08:12 PM
So can anyone sue or does it have to be a player? Asking for a friend.

Offshore Dawg
06-10-2025, 10:58 AM
Am I the only one that saw the post title and thought it was about our upcoming football season?

Nope,

StarkVegasSteve
06-10-2025, 11:18 AM
So my thing is, how is Deloitte going to tell a kid that they aren't worth what a school is paying them? Like if the demand is there how can Deloitte tell a kid, "Well I know they offered you 1.2 million, but we think you're only worth 250K". The NCAA, and Deloitte, will be sued and lose in about 10 seconds.

Coach34
06-10-2025, 11:21 AM
So my thing is, how is Deloitte going to tell a kid that they aren't worth what a school is paying them? Like if the demand is there how can Deloitte tell a kid, "Well I know they offered you 1.2 million, but we think you're only worth 250K". The NCAA, and Deloitte, will be sued and lose in about 10 seconds.

Exactamundo. Why I been telling folks this BS wont help us. All it's doing is forcing the schools to basically pay $20MM of the NIL instead of boosters. The boosters will then fund the rest of whats needed to land top players. This will help us out to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but little else vs the big boys

Commercecomet24
06-10-2025, 11:26 AM
This whole "system" if you can call it that is a complete and total disaster.

Pinto
06-10-2025, 12:16 PM
Since you can?t limit players anymore, limit the schools. If we are going to have the idiotic 105 roster, then limit schools to 105 spots over 4 years. Only way you get an open spot is if a player graduates or completes their eligibility. Kids can transfer all they want but it limits if a school can take them.

State82
06-10-2025, 01:49 PM
This whole "system" if you can call it that is a complete and total disaster.

No doubt. It's about as reliable as an ice cream machine at McDonalds.

Coursesuper
06-10-2025, 02:14 PM
This whole "system" if you can call it that is a complete and total disaster.

Slow rolling train wreck.

confucius say
06-10-2025, 02:15 PM
So my thing is, how is Deloitte going to tell a kid that they aren't worth what a school is paying them? Like if the demand is there how can Deloitte tell a kid, "Well I know they offered you 1.2 million, but we think you're only worth 250K". The NCAA, and Deloitte, will be sued and lose in about 10 seconds.

They will use a 12 factor test to determine if it is true NIL or pay for play, which courts have said the ncaa is still free to prohibit. If it is true value NIL, it will be approved. Will be interesting to see how aggressive Deloitte is at striking down deals.

If the athlete disputes Deloitte's ruling, he/she can appeal it first to a commission and then submit it to neutral, binding arbitration. The NCAA has nothing to do with this.

The athletes, unless they opted out of the House class, bargained for and agreed to this setup (hopefully quells antitrust concerns), so that does create a legal argument to uphold the arbitration. Not saying it will win out, I'm just saying that legal argument now at least exits where it didn't before.

Coach34
06-10-2025, 03:44 PM
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1932207799058247724?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw


Texas Tech expects to pay its athletes $55MM between rev share and NIL this year

Coach34
06-10-2025, 03:45 PM
https://x.com/on3sports/status/1932153397517717694?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw

UCLA and Penn State have signed 8 figure private capital deals

But yeahhhhhh- we talking $600 in NIL deals to be scrutinized ��

Dawgface
06-10-2025, 03:57 PM
https://x.com/bmarcello/status/1932207799058247724?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw


Texas Tech expects to pay its athletes $55MM between rev share and NIL this year
Wow. If $$$ has a say in the matter TT should be in the football playoffs and bb final 4 four soon.

Pancho
06-10-2025, 04:39 PM
who are the 2 brothers who are the TT alums supporting their NIL?

War Machine Dawg
06-10-2025, 05:32 PM
Exactamundo. Why I been telling folks this BS wont help us. All it's doing is forcing the schools to basically pay $20MM of the NIL instead of boosters. The boosters will then fund the rest of whats needed to land top players. This will help us out to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but little else vs the big boys

Also does nothing to address the biggest problem, which is the Portal, I.e. unlimited free agency. Until kids are forced to stay put for more than 2 seconds, we have no hope of relevancy. Mullen proved our only viable path was becoming a development program, but that's impossible now. As soon as we have a player show any promise, they're being tapped up by bigger, richer programs. Enjoy Kamario Taylor, because of he's as good as some of y'all are saying, he'll be playing for Texas, Bama, UGA, TN, etc in two years at the most.

Leroy Jenkins
06-10-2025, 07:18 PM
who are the 2 brothers who are the TT alums supporting their NIL?

Cody Campbell and to a lesser degree his brother Brady.

Political Hack
06-10-2025, 07:48 PM
Administrators just fussing about change. It's a new market and will need sensible regulations put in place by the conferences. The SEC could decide on an equitable split amongst all sports. Small schools may go a different route. The money is there. The market is there. There's no stopping this now. As I predicted about 10 years ago, the NCAA has become largely irrelevant and been shown to be breaking laws by prohibiting student athletes from earning income. Their involvement in major college sports is coming to an end soon.

NIL deals will land in the lap of the athlete. They will lose eligibility but the schools likely won't be held responsible.

Westdawg
06-10-2025, 09:30 PM
This is the thing so many aren?t realizing.
We keep thinking about the Big names in P4, but it?s going to be places like Texas Tech, North Texas, Central Florida, and others who have such an immensely large and financially capable alumni base that has until now been untapped potential. There?s a new era of sports and those with the most to spend will see it flourish to levels never before seen outside of the Pony Express years.
I coached about 90 miles from Tech for the better part of a decade, and those guys have more money than we could ever fathom. They?ve just never wanted to go all in illegally to compete with Texas. With today?s sports climate, they are about to roll up and spend money like it?s the dust blowing in a west Texas storm.

StarkVegasSteve
06-11-2025, 08:27 AM
who are the 2 brothers who are the TT alums supporting their NIL?

Cody Campbell is the one doing all the heavy lifting. Had an oil company based in Ft Worth and sold it for 4 billion. He is the real life Monty Miller from Landman.

Goldendawg
06-11-2025, 12:01 PM
Am I the only one that saw the post title and thought it was about our upcoming football season?

Sadly, I thought the same when I clicked on it. First game viewed in person was as an 8 year old vs OM in 1963 where we tied their Top 10 team 10-10. My hopes for a good season last year and this have been at an all time low and I've seen a lot of lows since 1963. No coach should ever go 2-10 and 0-8 in the SEC, even in our worse years. We need to be competitive in losses and go 6-6 this year very badly. Hail State!

mckeen
06-11-2025, 01:52 PM
Sadly, I thought the same when I clicked on it. First game viewed in person was as an 8 year old vs OM in 1963 where we tied their Top 10 team 10-10. My hopes for a good season last year and this have been at an all time low and I've seen a lot of lows since 1963. No coach should ever go 2-10 and 0-8 in the SEC, even in our worse years. We need to be competitive in losses and go 6-6 this year very badly. Hail State!

Actually, we didn't tie them, they tied us in 1963. Instead of going for the win, they opted to kick a tying field goal on 4th and 3 with a minute left in the game.

Coach34
06-12-2025, 09:57 AM
https://x.com/on3sports/status/1932846353874386976?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw


Andddddd the women have already filed a lawsuit against the House settlement

StarkVegasSteve
06-12-2025, 10:30 AM
https://x.com/on3sports/status/1932846353874386976?s=46&t=OwYh-8ppYKXqKt8QQD9Mtw


Andddddd the women have already filed a lawsuit against the House settlement

Took no time at all. That's a slippery slope for them honestly. They're playing with fire big time.

Extendedcab
06-12-2025, 10:51 AM
Well if Michigan is impacted in this way because of paying players, then how will it affect MSU? See below - article I found on LinkedIn.

The University of Michigan athletic department is planning a 10% reduction in staff following the recent House settlement allowing schools to pay student-athletes, per MLive.com ��

In a letter to fans, alumni, and supporters, AD Warde Manuel detailed the department’s plans to rein in its spending to address a projected $27M budget deficit for 2025-26.

Key points:
1️⃣ Michigan plans to add 82.1 new scholarships across 19 sports this fall at a cost of roughly $6.2M.

2️⃣ Only six home football games this fall, down from eight in 2024, causing a $19.1M year-over-year decline in revenue.

3️⃣ Committed to $10M in budget cuts and worked with the school to reduce TV revenue allocation from $8M to $2M.

4️⃣ These measures have helped shave $12M from the deficit, creating a need for only $15M in the upcoming year.

Dawgology
06-13-2025, 09:21 AM
Just institute contracts like the pro’s have, a salary cap, and make it where the company offering the NIL to the player may not have any major connection with the school he is playing for. This isn’t rocket science. If the owner, CEO, major board member of an entity is alumni or booster of the educational institution they may not offer a prospect or current player an NIL. The end

Extendedcab
06-13-2025, 02:26 PM
You know universities will share their sports revenue with "student athletes" in order to keep up with the Jones'. Otherwise a school looses monetary advantage to recruit and retain athletes coming out of high school or those in the portal or even those currently on their team.

This will put a financial strain on universities as stated in the article on Michigan! See previous post!