Virginia didn't make it. Selmon, you're on the clock!

[Quaoarsking]

Reel him in! Announce it tomorrow!

Don't give UVA a chance to entice him back. Don't give Texas A&M a chance to swipe him away from him. Lock him down, and make it official!

[Coursesuper]

Reel him in! Announce it tomorrow!

Don't give UVA a chance to entice him back. Don't give Texas A&M a chance to swipe him away from him. Lock him down, and make it official!

You are going to be disappointed.

[basedog]

I imagine BOC is real sad right now.

[Quaoarsking]

You are going to be disappointed.

There are a few other names that I would be fine with, but O'Connor is arguably the top coach in all of college baseball, and we are the top fanbase in all of college baseball. It's a match made in Heaven.

[DownwardDawg]

You are going to be disappointed.

I believe so.

Butch is still coaching and will probably make a Super Regional.

[basedog]

I hope Bert Stare is headed to Virginia to pu our HC**
LOL

[Coursesuper]

There are a few other names that I would be fine with, but O'Connor is arguably the top coach in all of college baseball, and we are the top fanbase in all of college baseball. It's a match made in Heaven.

One of these days you people are going to figure out that the fan base of msu baseball is a double edged sword. It is one of the factors that makes this job a monster and not for just any coach out there. At least the guys running this search know that. As for that Selmon is going to hire who is told to on this one. At least he is smart enough to know that others can make the right choice for the program, much different than the last one. Could happen in ten days time or a little longer.

[Coursesuper]

I believe so.

Butch is still coaching and will probably make a Super Regional.

I can say that is highly unlikely.

[basedog]

One of these days you people are going to figure out that the fan base of msu baseball is a double edged sword. It is one of the factors that makes this job a monster and not for just any coach out there. At least the guys running this search know that. As for that Selmon is going to hire who is told to on this one. At least he is smart enough to know that others can make the right choice for the program, much different than the last one. Could happen in ten days time or a little longer.

No doubt smart leaders listen to good advice, and it seems he is getting good advice.

[DownwardDawg]

I can say that is highly unlikely.

Highly unlikely that Butch makes a Super? Or highly unlikely that we hire Butch?
I believe what you're saying, but I'm a 57 year old State fan. I just know what "we" do.

[Quaoarsking]

I think it's pretty unlikely that O'Connor, Bakich, and Wasikowski all tell us no, and even if they do, I'm not sure that Thompson is #4 on the list or that he would have any reason to come here anyway. Those other 3 would be leaving conferences that aren't committed to baseball to come to the SEC. That's not a concern for Thompson.

The key factor here is that O'Connor can openly negotiate for the job as of today, while the others have to wait at least a week, probably longer, and focus on their own current jobs.

[Coursesuper]

Highly unlikely that Butch makes a Super? Or highly unlikely that we hire Butch?
I believe what you're saying, but I'm a 57 year old State fan. I just know what "we" do.

Highly unlikely that Butch will be the next head baseball coach at MSU. This is not the normal search situation.

[DownwardDawg]

Highly unlikely that Butch will be the next head baseball coach at MSU. This is not the normal search situation.

Thanks. Good information.

[Todd4State]

I think it's pretty unlikely that O'Connor, Bakich, and Wasikowski all tell us no, and even if they do, I'm not sure that Thompson is #4 on the list or that he would have any reason to come here anyway. Those other 3 would be leaving conferences that aren't committed to baseball to come to the SEC. That's not a concern for Thompson.

The key factor here is that O'Connor can openly negotiate for the job as of today, while the others have to wait at least a week, probably longer, and focus on their own current jobs.

The reality is if it's O'Connor we will know pretty quickly if I had to guess. Just don't see us getting last Florida State but we have certainly done so before.

[Cowbell]

There are a few other names that I would be fine with, but O'Connor is arguably the top coach in all of college baseball, and we are the top fanbase in all of college baseball. It's a match made in Heaven.

Top coach in all of college baseball LOL

[Cowbell]

Highly unlikely that Butch will be the next head baseball coach at MSU. This is not the normal search situation.

Correct / I second this

[Quaoarsking]

Top coach in all of college baseball LOL

Maybe #2 behind O'Sullivan, but I did say "arguably."

[Cowbell]

Maybe #2 behind O'Sullivan, but I did say "arguably."

This is an even worse take..

I love it when average fans try telling our AD (who is doing a dang good job this far) what to do over a message board. Good entertainment man

[Quaoarsking]

This is an even worse take..

I love it when average fans try telling our AD (who is doing a dang good job this far) what to do over a message board. Good entertainment man

It speaks volumes that you aren't telling me who you think is actually #1 over O'Connor and O'Sullivan by such a great margin that it isn't even arguable.

[cheewgumm]

This is an even worse take..

I love it when average fans try telling our AD (who is doing a dang good job this far) what to do over a message board. Good entertainment man

Rule 1

Never trust authority. Typically they screw up.

That is Selman in this case.

It?s up to us to hold them accountable via public pressure and damn sure don?t trust them.

Plus if we can?t talk about this stuff what are we gonna talk about on a sports message board?

[Coursesuper]

For the last time SELMON IS NOT THE LEADER OF THIS SEARCH! He is talking the advice of guys that are uniquely qualified to find the right man for the job of Head Coach Mississippi State Baseball.

[Tough Dawg]

Who are these guys you are referring to?

[cheewgumm]

For the last time SELMON IS NOT THE LEADER OF THIS SEARCH! He is talking the advice of guys that are uniquely qualified to find the right man for the job of Head Coach Mississippi State Baseball.

He?s gonna get the blame if it goes wrong .

So he is the authority in my mind.

[Quaoarsking]

For the last time SELMON IS NOT THE LEADER OF THIS SEARCH! He is talking the advice of guys that are uniquely qualified to find the right man for the job of Head Coach Mississippi State Baseball.

Hope you're right, but we heard that in football back in December 2023 and then we hired Selmon's grossly unqualified personal friend, a guy who our fanbase disliked from his time at Ole Miss, as well as having some ... personal baggage ... from before then.

Having said that, I think we're going to make a home run hire this time.

[DownwardDawg]

For the last time SELMON IS NOT THE LEADER OF THIS SEARCH! He is talking the advice of guys that are uniquely qualified to find the right man for the job of Head Coach Mississippi State Baseball.

So if we make a great baseball hire, folks on this board can't tell us what a great job Selmon is doing?
I was warming up to him when he fired Lemonis because I thought he had a plan for sure. Now some of y'all are telling us that he really plays no part in this. Interesting

[Todd4State]

So if we make a great baseball hire, folks on this board can't tell us what a great job Selmon is doing?
I was warming up to him when he fired Lemonis because I thought he had a plan for sure. Now some of y'all are telling us that he really plays no part in this. Interesting

It's very booster driven. Not Madison booster driven. Selmon is along for the ride unless he goes AWOL like Stricklin when he hired Rick Ray.

If it's Reggie Willits then Selmon went AWOL.

[Coursesuper]

So if we make a great baseball hire, folks on this board can't tell us what a great job Selmon is doing?
I was warming up to him when he fired Lemonis because I thought he had a plan for sure. Now some of y'all are telling us that he really plays no part in this. Interesting

It?s not no part, but he knows that others are better suited to help make the baseball hire. At least he is bright enough to know that it?s not his strongest area and to seek the assistance of those who are better suited for this role.

[DownwardDawg]

It?s not no part, but he knows that others are better suited to help make the baseball hire. At least he is bright enough to know that it?s not his strongest area and to seek the assistance of those who are better suited for this role.
That's a good trait. I hope that's what it is.

[DownwardDawg]

It's very booster driven. Not Madison booster driven. Selmon is along for the ride unless he goes AWOL like Stricklin when he hired Rick Ray.

If it's Reggie Willits then Selmon went AWOL.

Yeah, let's hope he doesn't do that.

[BigDawg81]

I think if it is O?Connor, we will know fairly soon. Virginia will run a graphic on social media showing that they locked in O?Connor or it will be the national media leaking O?Connor is staying put. I think Virginia will want to lock O?Connor asap.

[BankerDog]

Hope you're right, but we heard that in football back in December 2023 and then we hired Selmon's grossly unqualified personal friend, a guy who our fanbase disliked from his time at Ole Miss, as well as having some ... personal baggage ... from before then.

Having said that, I think we're going to make a home run hire this time.

Lebby is not, for the last time, a personal friend. That narrative is so far from false it?s not even funny. Had he wanted to hire a friend, it would?ve been Shane Beamer.

And this post above is the core reason we never win. ?Personal baggage? get out of here. Saban had baggage, Ed O had baggage, Meyer had baggage, Kiffin had baggage. And you know what? They win..

[Todd4State]

Yeah, let's hope he doesn't do that.

I don't think he will. It would piss off way too many important people.

[Todd4State]

Lebby is not, for the last time, a personal friend. That narrative is so far from false it?s not even funny. Had he wanted to hire a friend, it would?ve been Shane Beamer.

And this post above is the core reason we never win. ?Personal baggage? get out of here. Saban had baggage, Ed O had baggage, Meyer had baggage, Kiffin had baggage. And you know what? They win..

Well said. We treat coaching searches like we're trying to hire a new church pastor or something.

[Tough Dawg]

Again. Curious to know who these guys are?

[Cooterpoot]

What a thread

[DownwardDawg]

What a thread

It's a good thread. It's the kind of thread that makes message boards. All over the place.

[SPMT]

Well said. We treat coaching searches like we're trying to hire a new church pastor or something.

Amen. Ridiculous how some people judge others while having their own issues.

I don?t give a 17 if a coach is a debaucherous prick. I don?t become friends with them and don?t want to be. I don?t want my mind clouded when they need to be fired.

[Quaoarsking]

And this post above is the core reason we never win. ?Personal baggage? get out of here. Saban had baggage, Ed O had baggage, Meyer had baggage, Kiffin had baggage. And you know what? They win..

I'm not sure if the best response is to point out that none of those 4 have anywhere near the "personal baggage" that Lebby has, or if it's better to point out that Lebby hasn't won a damn thing or given us any reason to think he ever will here.

I'm the reason we don't win because I think our 2-10 football coach probably sucks? And when I'm one of the few posters here who doesn't think we're unworthy of Brian O'Connor's attention? That's just not true on either count.

If Lebby starts winning, I'll keep forgetting about the icky situation at Baylor (I will give him some grace and say that these situations are complicated and he just can't condemn his father-in-law without tearing his family apart), but if we are looking for a new coach in 6 months, I'm sure going to unforget it, and I think the rest of our fans will too.

[BankerDog]

I'm not sure if the best response is to point out that none of those 4 have anywhere near the "personal baggage" that Lebby has, or if it's better to point out that Lebby hasn't won a damn thing or given us any reason to think he ever will here.

I'm the reason we don't win because I think our 2-10 football coach probably sucks? And when I'm one of the few posters here who doesn't think we're unworthy of Brian O'Connor's attention? That's just not true on either count.

If Lebby starts winning, I'll keep forgetting about the icky situation at Baylor (I will give him some grace and say that these situations are complicated and he just can't condemn his father-in-law without tearing his family apart), but if we are looking for a new coach in 6 months, I'm sure going to unforget it, and I think the rest of our fans will too.

Last thing I?ll say so I don?t hijack a thread?33 players transferred out, only 3 remained in the SEC. Two of the 30 (both defensive starters and captains) who didn?t remain in SEC wound up transferring to UNLV and Tulane-both got cut this spring. Draw from it what you think.

[DownwardDawg]

Amen. Ridiculous how some people judge others while having their own issues.

I don?t give a 17 if a coach is a debaucherous prick. I don?t become friends with them and don?t want to be. I don?t want my mind clouded when they need to be fired.

Amen. Just win.

[msstate7]

Amen. Ridiculous how some people judge others while having their own issues.

I don?t give a 17 if a coach is a debaucherous prick. I don?t become friends with them and don?t want to be. I don?t want my mind clouded when they need to be fired.

What exactly has Lebby won?

[mparkerfd20]

What exactly has Lebby won?

Not a damn thing.

[CaptainObvious]

What exactly has Lebby won?

Hopefully the Locker Room after getting 33 n'v'r-do-wells out of it!

[Todd4State]

What exactly has Lebby won?

One less game than Dave Clawson did in year one at Wake Forest.

[Cowbell]

Guys this is a baseball thread. We will get to melt from Sep-Dec over football so save your energy on that. Gonna need it.

[KOdawg1]

I just went cross-eyed reading this thread.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Self delete

[BigDawg81]

No final decision has been made but O’Connor is expected to stay at Virginia.

[EdwardDrayton]

What exactly has Lebby won?

A rhetorical question he asked. :)

[msstate7]

No final decision has been made but O’Connor is expected to stay at Virginia.

Seems like I've saw this episode before...

[StateDawg44]

No final decision has been made but O’Connor is expected to stay at Virginia.

I'm shocked

[msstate7]

I'm shocked

Hopefully this time is different, but I'm old enough to remember all these exciting names getting thrown around only to hire some dude from Indiana

[Quaoarsking]

Disappointing if true. For my whole life, our fan base and administration have been infected with an inferiority complex. Every time I think that may be changing, things come crashing down.

[Coursesuper]

Disappointing if true. For my whole life, our fan base and administration have been infected with an inferiority complex. Every time I think that may be changing, things come crashing down.

Have you ever considered that you may have been wrong from day one? That the guy has never been a candidate for the job and we are talking to other people. And you and others have pushed a narrative to fit facts rather than facts to fit a narrative. Y'all have fallen for every line of bullshit that has been thrown out there by by the college baseball media types. Sadly this is what happens every time, they throw out fresh meat and y'all gobble it up, and when it doesn't happen the guy we hire is a disappointment.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Have you ever considered that you may have been wrong from day one? That the guy has never been a candidate for the job and we are talking to other people. And you and others have pushed a narrative to fit facts rather than facts to fit a narrative. Y'all have fallen for every line of bullshit that has been thrown out there by by the college baseball media types. Sadly this is what happens every time, they throw out fresh meat and y'all gobble it up, and when it doesn't happen the guy we hire is a disappointment.

I've literally cautioned against this exact thing once a week since O'Conner's name first appeared. Because it happens every time a coaching search occurs, and it's not just a Mississippi State thing.

[msstate7]

Have you ever considered that you may have been wrong from day one? That the guy has never been a candidate for the job and we are talking to other people. And you and others have pushed a narrative to fit facts rather than facts to fit a narrative. Y'all have fallen for every line of bullshit that has been thrown out there by by the college baseball media types. Sadly this is what happens every time, they throw out fresh meat and y'all gobble it up, and when it doesn't happen the guy we hire is a disappointment.

Ah yes, we didn't want him.

[Quaoarsking]

Have you ever considered that you may have been wrong from day one? That the guy has never been a candidate for the job and we are talking to other people. And you and others have pushed a narrative to fit facts rather than facts to fit a narrative. Y'all have fallen for every line of bullshit that has been thrown out there by by the college baseball media types. Sadly this is what happens every time, they throw out fresh meat and y'all gobble it up, and when it doesn't happen the guy we hire is a disappointment.

There were way too many sources out there saying he was a candidate, including UVA beat writers, for it to have been "wrong since day one."

[Coursesuper]

Ah yes, we didn't want him.

Where did I say that? You would glean that. This is being run the right way that will hire a great coach. But we collectively know exactly dick about who the real candidates are and when and how they are contacting them, but feel free to continue to fall for everything you hear that you want to believe.

[StarkVegasSteve]

There were way too many sources out there saying he was a candidate, including UVA beat writers, for it to have been "wrong since day one."

I don't think it was ever wrong that he was a candidate. But I think some got out over their skis thinking it was a done deal and we were just waiting for the ink to dry. He was a candidate and we spoke to his reps and backchanneled with him a bit. Just like we have already done with around 12-14 other candidates. WE NEVER FORMALLY SAT DOWN WITH HIM.

[msstate7]

Where did I say that? You would glean that. This is being run the right way that will hire a great coach. But we collectively know exactly dick about who the real candidates are and who they are when and how they are contacting them, but feel free to continue to fall for everything you hear that you want to believe.

I didn't fall for anything. I said from the get go that we won't get the big name just like we didn't last time.

[Turfdawg67]

I didn't fall for anything. I said from the get go that we won't get the big name just like we didn't last time.

Exactly. I said it too. We are who we are… come on down coach from West Virginia.

[parabrave]

Where did I say that? You would glean that. This is being run the right way that will hire a great coach. But we collectively know exactly dick about who the real candidates are and when and how they are contacting them, but feel free to continue to fall for everything you hear that you want to believe.

you mean Pete Carroll isn't going to be the next OM Coach****. Hey SR, Yancy and the rest of the clickbaitors must be crappy dart players cause they never hit the bullseye.

[DownwardDawg]

Have you ever considered that you may have been wrong from day one? That the guy has never been a candidate for the job and we are talking to other people. And you and others have pushed a narrative to fit facts rather than facts to fit a narrative. Y'all have fallen for every line of bullshit that has been thrown out there by by the college baseball media types. Sadly this is what happens every time, they throw out fresh meat and y'all gobble it up, and when it doesn't happen the guy we hire is a disappointment.

Yep. This 100%.

[Dawgology]

Where did I say that? You would glean that. This is being run the right way that will hire a great coach. But we collectively know exactly dick about who the real candidates are and when and how they are contacting them, but feel free to continue to fall for everything you hear that you want to believe.

Isnt the whole “this is being run the right way” the same story we hear every time? It’s the same people making the same choices for the same reasons. It will be the same results. Also why I dont spend a lot of time or money on MSU sports anymore

[The Federalist Engineer]

Yep. This 100%.

Yep, we don't know if Selmon is presently negotiating how to pay Skip Johnson's buyout and will reveal this garbage after OU is quickly eliminated. Or even the K State duffer, Pete Hughes.

We are thinking Studs like Bakcik or Waz but our leaders might be signing Ming. This might be why Kentucky suddenly sucks.

If I hear that Selmon consulted John Cohen before hiring someone, I might just quit MSU sports.

[KB21]

There wasn?t anything wrong with the process of how they hired a football coach, and this idea that Selmon just hired his buddy is one of the laziest thought processes ever. Jeff Lebby was at worst a top 3 offensive coordinator in college football when he was hired.

Some of you need to realize that the only established head coaches we can hire in football are either at the end of their careers or have so much baggage that no one else will hire them.

Hiring a Willie Fritz wouldn?t have changed the results of the 2024 season. Jamey Chadwell wouldn?t even entertain the thought of taking the job. Lance Liepold wasn?t interested in our job.

[Pancho]

I'm with you KB21. thing is, regardless who is hired will be better than what we had a few weeks ago. Even the current assistants being lightly considered are better than what we had.

[Quaoarsking]

He did it!

[BeardoMSU]

He did it!

Ha! Got your man!