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Quaoarsking
06-30-2025, 10:21 PM
Go 9-21 in back-to-back seasons: "Keep your job! Just making a Regional is good enough and he wasn't too far off!"

Go 16-11 after having made Omaha in 3 of the last 4, only to be screwed over by the committee and fate: "What an underachiever!"

KOdawg1
06-30-2025, 10:23 PM
Sad we've got someone in our fanbase rooting for our elite, national championship winning coach to fail just so he can be right on a message board.

A psychiatrist could have a field day studying his brain and how 17ed up it is.

BeardoMSU
06-30-2025, 10:45 PM
Sad we've got someone in our fanbase rooting for our elite, national championship winning coach to fail just so he can be right on a message board.

A psychiatrist could have a field day studying his brain and how 17ed up it is.

He's really an LSU fan**

BeardoMSU
06-30-2025, 10:46 PM
Go 9-21 in back-to-back seasons: "Keep your job! Just making a Regional is good enough and he wasn't too far off!"

Go 16-11 after having made Omaha in 3 of the last 4, only to be screwed over by the committee and fate: "What an underachiever!"

Yep. Total lunacy...but expected.

The Federalist Engineer
07-01-2025, 12:23 AM
Ending with a burst?

1B/RHP Chris Arroyo from UVA (193 for MLB, Draft Risk)

SS/2B Henry Godbout from UVA (73 for MLB, Draft Risk)

LHP Dylan Loy from Tennessee much trusted Reliver, comes supremely tested and no draft risk.

Maybe they have a flip on a quality SS from HS, not the portal. Seems you could pull an All American with an open SEC position.

bulldogcountry1
07-01-2025, 06:33 AM
I hope every draft eligible player we go after is a draft risk. After all, MLB can only take so many, and it?s the only way to build an elite program. I?d rather keep 50% of draft risk players than 100% of players that nobody wants to draft.

If our NIL stays strong, we will win some battles, unlike the days of when players with a 1/2 scholarship would bolt for a $25k signing bonus.

basedog
07-01-2025, 06:58 AM
I hope every draft eligible player we go after is a draft risk. After all, MLB can only take so many, and it?s the only way to build an elite program. I?d rather keep 50% of draft risk players than 100% of players that nobody wants to draft.

If our NIL stays strong, we will win some battles, unlike the days of when players with a 1/2 scholarship would bolt for a $25k signing bonus.

Better to have than not have signees. What is somewhat funny is reading where we have a regional team already with what was left by Bucket Coach, then we sign and get portal players and the "sky may fall" LOL. The futures way better in years to come with BOC and staff. But their will be naysayers.

WSOPdawg
07-01-2025, 09:12 AM
I hope every draft eligible player we go after is a draft risk. After all, MLB can only take so many, and it?s the only way to build an elite program. I?d rather keep 50% of draft risk players than 100% of players that nobody wants to draft.

If our NIL stays strong, we will win some battles, unlike the days of when players with a 1/2 scholarship would bolt for a $25k signing bonus.

100% agree. You definitely don't want a roster with zero draft risks, which means you are void of talent or have holes in your classes.

Coach34
07-01-2025, 12:17 PM
100% agree. You definitely don't want a roster with zero draft risks, which means you are void of talent or have holes in your classes.

I'm talking about landing more guys that arent eligible for the 2025 draft. 2026 draft guys- not limited talent guys

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 12:31 PM
Seems to be some cautious.....very cautious.....optimism on our side regarding Reese.

I would still say it's very touch and go. Maybe 52 he stays/48 he goes. I might be willing to go as high as like 55/45

Pancho
07-01-2025, 12:55 PM
LSU's 3rd baseman does seem to be leaning toward the draft.

Coach34
07-01-2025, 12:56 PM
Seems to be some cautious.....very cautious.....optimism on our side regarding Reese.

I would still say it's very touch and go. Maybe 52 he stays/48 he goes. I might be willing to go as high as like 55/45

Not that there is any correlation- but LSU's Freshman All-SEC OF'er hit the portal yesterday

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 01:14 PM
And.......Ace Reese is back. Like he never left. Because he didn't.

basedog
07-01-2025, 01:15 PM
Lsu has had around a dozen hit the portal. Tn has had a lot as well. Sh*t happens now days.

State82
07-01-2025, 01:24 PM
And.......Ace Reese is back. Like he never left. Because he didn't.

BOOM!

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 01:24 PM
Lsu has had around a dozen hit the portal. Tn has had a lot as well. Sh*t happens now days.

The number of pitchers Tennessee has had hit the portal is shocking. I think I've seen it's around 20.

Todd4State
07-01-2025, 01:26 PM
And.......Ace Reese is back. Like he never left. Because he didn't.

I felt pretty good when I saw LSU was going after Carraway.

confucius say
07-01-2025, 02:00 PM
Oregon state 3B got in the portal yesterday. That seemed good for us. Maybe lsu was behind that

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 02:12 PM
Oregon state 3B got in the portal yesterday. That seemed good for us. Maybe lsu was behind that

He and Curiel are apparently friends. He may have been a fallback option.

Todd4State
07-01-2025, 02:14 PM
The number of pitchers Tennessee has had hit the portal is shocking. I think I've seen it's around 20.

There is something up with that. That's not normal.

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 02:23 PM
There is something up with that. That's not normal.

You just have to wonder if the way they have recruited is finally catching up to them, in terms of numbers. I mean they had 29 pitchers on their roster this year and recruited 10 from the HS ranks. That's not including anything they bring in from the portal. When you recruit as well as Tennessee does, eventually a log jam is going to happen. Add in to that there's only so many innings to go around and so many starters and you have this type of attrition.

basedog
07-01-2025, 02:30 PM
I never thought Ace would leave after he signed his NIL deal before the House bill passed. He and his agent are smart.

Yep, something is wrong at Tn.

Coursesuper
07-01-2025, 02:36 PM
You just have to wonder if the way they have recruited is finally catching up to them, in terms of numbers. I mean they had 29 pitchers on their roster this year and recruited 10 from the HS ranks. That's not including anything they bring in from the portal. When you recruit as well as Tennessee does, eventually a log jam is going to happen. Add in to that there's only so many innings to go around and so many starters and you have this type of attrition.

The portal is not as simple as many believe. Yes, it is a quick fix for brining in talent, but you must bring in talent that fits your system and fits with the type players that you have on the current roster. On bad apple can ruin the pie so recruiting the right guy for you is important.

ZedFedder
07-01-2025, 02:45 PM
Vitello is the kind of guy who can have really high highs but low lows. He encourages his players to be arrogant and disrespectful. The only problem is that goes both ways. You teach guys to engrave that into who they are, but they are also going to have that same personality towards their coaches eventually.

Coach34
07-01-2025, 02:49 PM
The number of pitchers Tennessee has had hit the portal is shocking. I think I've seen it's around 20.

I saw the other day they had over 50 guys in the baseball program this Spring. That's crazy.

basedog
07-01-2025, 03:06 PM
Vitello is the kind of guy who can have really high highs but low lows. He encourages his players to be arrogant and disrespectful. The only problem is that goes both ways. You teach guys to engrave that into who they are, but they are also going to have that same personality towards their coaches eventually.

Yep

BrunswickDawg
07-01-2025, 03:18 PM
There is something up with that. That's not normal.

Why should anyone be shocked. His ways and attitude will eventually wear thin and cause a lot of friction. Chase Burns leaving and going to Wake a couple of years ago was a red flag to me.
I kind of look at Vitello as a Billy Martin type - winner. hard charging, scrapping and clawing to always win, but those demons are going to cause teams to blow up.

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2025, 03:25 PM
Vitello is the kind of guy who can have really high highs but low lows. He encourages his players to be arrogant and disrespectful. The only problem is that goes both ways. You teach guys to engrave that into who they are, but they are also going to have that same personality towards their coaches eventually.

But to Tony's credit, when your low lows are a Super Regional then people don't care too much. I mean this guy has been on an incredible run the last 5 years.

257-81(.761) with a national championship, 3 CWS appearances, and 2 Supers. Like that's ELITE. We may hate the guy but make no mistake, he can recruit and motivate as good as anyone in America at hte moment.

Todd4State
07-01-2025, 04:06 PM
You just have to wonder if the way they have recruited is finally catching up to them, in terms of numbers. I mean they had 29 pitchers on their roster this year and recruited 10 from the HS ranks. That's not including anything they bring in from the portal. When you recruit as well as Tennessee does, eventually a log jam is going to happen. Add in to that there's only so many innings to go around and so many starters and you have this type of attrition.

That's true but in theory there are going to be innings for several guys. Losing guys like Burns and Loy is a red flag.

And it's not like this is a coaching change situation.

ZedFedder
07-01-2025, 04:07 PM
But to Tony's credit, when your low lows are a Super Regional then people don't care too much. I mean this guy has been on an incredible run the last 5 years.

257-81(.761) with a national championship, 3 CWS appearances, and 2 Supers. Like that's ELITE. We may hate the guy but make no mistake, he can recruit and motivate as good as anyone in America at hte moment.

I don?t disagree. I am interested in how the next couple of years play out.

Todd4State
07-01-2025, 04:09 PM
Why should anyone be shocked. His ways and attitude will eventually wear thin and cause a lot of friction. Chase Burns leaving and going to Wake a couple of years ago was a red flag to me.
I kind of look at Vitello as a Billy Martin type - winner. hard charging, scrapping and clawing to always win, but those demons are going to cause teams to blow up.

It has felt like a powder keg for years there. I'm surprised that no one has gotten into a brawl with them.

I just have to wonder if it's on the verge of exploding at some point in several different ways.

AlSwearengen
07-01-2025, 04:33 PM
It has felt like a powder keg for years there. I'm surprised that no one has gotten into a brawl with them.

I just have to wonder if it's on the verge of exploding at some point in several different ways.


Ark/Tenn have had an ongoing drama since Vitello left for Tenn. After this season’s episode, I paid a little attention to press conferences, interviews, and online fan chatter. I didn’t think it before, but now I believe that if DVH retired today, Vitello very well might leave for Ark. You get a vibe that fans are tired of DVH not getting it done and you get more than a vibe that they want Vitello. Add in that Vitello was being nostalgic about Ark in a press conference and if I were Tenn, I’d be a little nervous. Of course, things could change between now and when DVH retires, but right now, things with Tenn and Vitello feel a little wonky.

The Federalist Engineer
07-02-2025, 12:23 AM
The Portal is not over:

"Once they're in, they can take visits, talk to coaches, and commit even after the window closes. The deadline is just for entering, not committing."

So in 11-12 days, all the drafted guys can be replaced with other portal kids. With pitchers, still plenty of dudes. If Arroyo and Godbout don't like their draft position, they can take their talents to Starkville.