Tenn QB skips practice over NIL

[Coach34]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44630900/qb-nico-iamaleava-skips-vols-practice-amid-nil-talks-sources-say


This sport is done

[sandjunky]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44630900/qb-nico-iamaleava-skips-vols-practice-amid-nil-talks-sources-say


This sport is done

Agreed
If I?m UT, I cut ties to make a point

[cheewgumm]

Econ 101 - supply and demand

Cut him.

There are many 5 stars that want to play QB at Tenn

[BravesDoggy]

Blake Shapen is going to end up being the best QB in the SEC

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is just the first time it's been really publicized. This has been happening since NIL became a thing. It's usually in season for games and in season practice, never actually seen it for spring practice.


If Tennessee has a backbone, his locker is cleaned out and his crap sat outside the front of the building. Although, he's extremely athletic, he's not a difference maker. You don't pay a non difference maker top of the market prices.

[EdwardDrayton]

And so it begins ...........

[Dawgology]

It’s cooked until they start drawing up pro contracts and adding settlements into for breach.

[parabrave]

Throw him out. I thought Tenn won despite him.

[DEDawg]

Cool, you wanna sit out, team can cut you at any time during the season then if you don't perform.

[parabrave]

Hey Bear sat out Joe Willy for an entire season fort having a drink. Just think more coaches need to be like him or like Deeds/

[ZedFedder]

Tell him to hit the road and save all the money. He was decent last year but not what he was billed to be. He may be in line to be the next Jayden Daniels, but you will certainly lose the team catering to him.

[Santiago]

This is just the first time it's been really publicized. This has been happening since NIL became a thing. It's usually in season for games and in season practice, never actually seen it for spring practice.


If Tennessee has a backbone, his locker is cleaned out and his crap sat outside the front of the building. Although, he's extremely athletic, he's not a difference maker. You don't pay a non difference maker top of the market prices.

Didn't Ole Miss players renegotiate during "Their Year" last year?

[coachnorm]

Does this tie in with the Jaden Rashada saga? Maybe there is a connection of contractual promises and bounced checks? Can you believe it, a now active Georgia quarterback has an active lawsuit against the University of Florida?

The name of the game of college football WAS covert money being channeled illegally to players. Under the guise of secrecy and deceit, issues like this rarely came to light. NOW the game has evolved from covert to overt money and nothing can be kept secret as proven by a contractual NIL lawsuit.

College Football will be dominated by overt money in the future. Covert money is something of the PAST. If an athletic program can not support a NIL contract, it will be at risk. Past powerhouse college programs may not function well in the OVERT ENVIORNMENT? Can Alabama and Auburn match Texas and Texas A&M monetarily? One more thing about OVERT MONEY, why do you think Dan Mullen is at UNLV?

FYI this monetary bullshit is ruining high school football also. Basically, Mater Dei Santa Ana CA, St John Bosco Los Angeles CA, and Bishop Gorman Las Vegas NV, have pumped so much money into their organization that no one is challenging them on the national level.

[STATEBALLIN]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44630900/qb-nico-iamaleava-skips-vols-practice-amid-nil-talks-sources-say


This sport is done

Well Done. Not sure I?ll even watch it this year, or ever again until something changes.

[Political Hack]

Does this tie in with the Jaden Rashada saga? Maybe there is a connection of contractual promises and bounced checks? Can you believe it, a now active Georgia quarterback has an active lawsuit against the University of Florida?

The name of the game of college football WAS covert money being channeled illegally to players. Under the guise of secrecy and deceit, issues like this rarely came to light. NOW the game has evolved from covert to overt money and nothing can be kept secret as proven by a contractual NIL lawsuit.

College Football will be dominated by overt money in the future. Covert money is something of the PAST. If an athletic program can not support a NIL contract, it will be at risk. Past powerhouse college programs may not function well in the OVERT ENVIORNMENT? Can Alabama and Auburn match Texas and Texas A&M monetarily? One more thing about OVERT MONEY, why do you think Dan Mullen is at UNLV?

FYI this monetary bullshit is ruining high school football also. Basically, Mater Dei Santa Ana CA, St John Bosco Los Angeles CA, and Bishop Gorman Las Vegas NV, have pumped so much money into their organization that no one is challenging them on the national level.

High school football in Georgia and north Atlanta specifically is becoming professionalized. Buford, Milton, Gainesville, & Carrollton and more high schools across Georgia are bringing in the top players in the state through NIL deals. Buford just dumped $60 million into a high school stadium. Gainesville ponied up right behind them. There's too much money in the game not to share some with the players, but there has to be rules and regulations just like in the NFL or dumb stuff like this is going to happen.

The financial part of it is complicated, but that WILL BE figured out... to me, the bigger problem is going to be the lack of fan interest. Nobody is going to care about high school recruiting anymore because your roster is brand new every year. That's a pretty big business now that's going to shrink considerably. And fans are going to gradually lose interest in their teams because their favorite players leave every season. You don't get to watch Dak develop over a couple of years and then make a Heisman run. Those days are gone.

[coachnorm]

High school football in Georgia and north Atlanta specifically is becoming professionalized. Buford, Milton, Gainesville, & Carrollton and more high schools across Georgia are bringing in the top players in the state through NIL deals. Buford just dumped $60 million into a high school stadium. Gainesville ponied up right behind them. There's too much money in the game not to share some with the players, but there has to be rules and regulations just like in the NFL or dumb stuff like this is going to happen.

The financial part of it is complicated, but that WILL BE figured out... to me, the bigger problem is going to be the lack of fan interest. Nobody is going to care about high school recruiting anymore because your roster is brand new every year. That's a pretty big business now that's going to shrink considerably. And fans are going to gradually lose interest in their teams because their favorite players leave every season. You don't get to watch Dak develop over a couple of years and then make a Heisman run. Those days are gone.

Just to add to the direction of high school football. You talked about the Georgia High School football form of NIL and I believe you. At least the Georgia folks can keep an eye on each other. In Southern California Trinity League, if Mater Dei or St John Bosco need players, they raid the Los Angeles Metroplex.

A case in point is the starting running back for the Georgia Bulldogs named Frazier from Mater Dei in Santa Ana, California. Frazier is from Compton, 27 miles away from the school he played for. Private schools, in California, have vans that pick up athletes.

Also, Mater Dei and St. John Bosco have some NIL going on too. But, the ultimate slap in the face to the national high school football community is the Samoa and Fiji scheme being ran out there. How in the hell is a State athletic governing body going to investigate family connections on the other side of the globe?

The Los Angeles Times has published to get ready for another predictable high school season again. FWIW, I have sent Coach34 content in the past and I would love to hear his take on this content.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/story/2025-01-06/high-school-football-transfer-tracker-for-2025-which-top-players-are-switching-schools

[Todd4State]

High school football in Georgia and north Atlanta specifically is becoming professionalized. Buford, Milton, Gainesville, & Carrollton and more high schools across Georgia are bringing in the top players in the state through NIL deals. Buford just dumped $60 million into a high school stadium. Gainesville ponied up right behind them. There's too much money in the game not to share some with the players, but there has to be rules and regulations just like in the NFL or dumb stuff like this is going to happen.

The financial part of it is complicated, but that WILL BE figured out... to me, the bigger problem is going to be the lack of fan interest. Nobody is going to care about high school recruiting anymore because your roster is brand new every year. That's a pretty big business now that's going to shrink considerably. And fans are going to gradually lose interest in their teams because their favorite players leave every season. You don't get to watch Dak develop over a couple of years and then make a Heisman run. Those days are gone.

Oh high school football recruiting is dead now. It simply doesn't matter because even if you lose a top prospect to your rival the odds are they're going to transfer out and possibly even be at MSU in a couple of years anyway. No one pays attention to it anymore.

The best thing for MSU to do is try to get the best in state players IMO. Those are the ones that are most likely to stay committed long term. We can fill in the gaps with the portal because most of any class isn't going to pan out. But we can build a good core around guys like Kamario Taylor and JJ Hill.

If we were proactive at MSU- which we aren't when it comes to football recruiting- we would use that new school on campus and try to eventually develop a high school where we could steer top prospects basically on campus and basically turn it into a Mississippi redneck version of IMG. MSMS is already going to be moved there so the seeds are already planted.

I'm sure we would have fans that would be very vocal about how MSU doing that is wrong and how we should just do things by the rules. Idiots they are while they bitch about our 2-10 team.

[Todd4State]

High school football in Georgia and north Atlanta specifically is becoming professionalized. Buford, Milton, Gainesville, & Carrollton and more high schools across Georgia are bringing in the top players in the state through NIL deals. Buford just dumped $60 million into a high school stadium. Gainesville ponied up right behind them. There's too much money in the game not to share some with the players, but there has to be rules and regulations just like in the NFL or dumb stuff like this is going to happen.

The financial part of it is complicated, but that WILL BE figured out... to me, the bigger problem is going to be the lack of fan interest. Nobody is going to care about high school recruiting anymore because your roster is brand new every year. That's a pretty big business now that's going to shrink considerably. And fans are going to gradually lose interest in their teams because their favorite players leave every season. You don't get to watch Dak develop over a couple of years and then make a Heisman run. Those days are gone.


Just to add to the direction of high school football. You talked about the Georgia High School football form of NIL and I believe you. At least the Georgia folks can keep an eye on each other. In Southern California Trinity League, if Mater Dei or St John Bosco need players, they raid the Los Angeles Metroplex.

A case in point is the starting running back for the Georgia Bulldogs named Frazier from Mater Dei in Santa Ana, California. Frazier is from Compton, 27 miles away from the school he played for. Private schools, in California, have vans that pick up athletes.

Also, Mater Dei and St. John Bosco have some NIL going on too. But, the ultimate slap in the face to the national high school football community is the Samoa and Fiji scheme being ran out there. How in the hell is a State athletic governing body going to investigate family connections on the other side of the globe?

The Los Angeles Times has published to get ready for another predictable high school season again. FWIW, I have sent Coach34 content in the past and I would love to hear his take on this content.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/story/2025-01-06/high-school-football-transfer-tracker-for-2025-which-top-players-are-switching-schools

Only a matter of time before this happens in Mississippi. Really has been happening at the MAIS level for years to a degree- see Hartfield Academy.

Only a matter of time before schools like Jackson Prep, Madison Central, Oak Grove, Tupelo, a DeSoto County school to be determined later, and maybe a school on the coast like Ocean Springs or Gulfport decide to get in on this too. And when I say get in on this- I mean ALL IN.

The Metro area private schools have taken all of the best players from JPS already.

[BrunswickDawg]

High school football in Georgia and north Atlanta specifically is becoming professionalized. Buford, Milton, Gainesville, & Carrollton and more high schools across Georgia are bringing in the top players in the state through NIL deals. Buford just dumped $60 million into a high school stadium. Gainesville ponied up right behind them. There's too much money in the game not to share some with the players, but there has to be rules and regulations just like in the NFL or dumb stuff like this is going to happen.

The financial part of it is complicated, but that WILL BE figured out... to me, the bigger problem is going to be the lack of fan interest. Nobody is going to care about high school recruiting anymore because your roster is brand new every year. That's a pretty big business now that's going to shrink considerably. And fans are going to gradually lose interest in their teams because their favorite players leave every season. You don't get to watch Dak develop over a couple of years and then make a Heisman run. Those days are gone.

The machine at Buford was built by my high school coach and a former player who was 2 years ahead of me in high school. When the coach was at our school, my Senior year we had a damn good team returning with an All-American QB. Our boosters put together a fund to pay for apartments for transfer players to live in and coach recruited a team to make a run for a state title. We destroyed everyone in our region, but still couldn't compete with the old power programs like SW Dekalb and Valdosta. That was 1990. Recruiting in high school football in Georgia is as old as the game itself.

[Santiago]

This stuff is why now it is more fun to watch a North Dakota State, Montanna, South Dakota State, league during the season instead of this mess. I know they are playing the game on a smaller level and they are losing players, but at least it is more as it normally used to be, and they have tough players playing in bad weather at the end of the season.
Just looking for leagues and teams that still remind me of how college football used to be.

It is also a reminder, we really need an offense that is an equalizer on the field to compete with teams in the league passing us by on NIL funds.
Wait...we had that. But for now, anything that is different and other teams have trouble in one week preparing for.

[ZedFedder]

I?m really curious how this turns out.

If they pony up and pay him $4M, I would think that would cause a lot of dissension on the team.

[msstate7]

Tenn apparently moving on. College coaches need to band together on this, and no one take him. If they don't, this will be a common deal

[msudawg1200]

Tenn apparently moving on. College coaches need to band together on this, and no one take him. If they don't, this will be a common deal

Yep, it's called collusion and MLB owners did this in the free agent seasons of 85, 86, and 87. Several players signed for way less than market value and some remained unsigned until late-April/May. Owners were found guilty, had to pay restitution over a three year period and several players including Kirk Gibson and Jack Morris were awarded free agency. The owners were found guilty of this because it violated the labor agreement with the MLBPA.
However, there is no such system in place in this stupid, rouge shite that we are calling college athletics, so collude against these spoiled babies. That'd stop this horse crap, but you know there are Ole Miss' out there who'd break rank to sign these shitheads.

[Santiago]

I?m really curious how this turns out.

If they pony up and pay him $4M, I would think that would cause a lot of dissension on the team.

I just saw this morning that TN is parting ways with him. You are right, and I bet at this point they cannot cater to him or they have a team issue.

[parabrave]

These kids, and their handlers, will learn one day that the schools have all the bargaining power, but don't use it. The NFL doesn't have a development league. The NCAA is their dev league and without getting the exposure in the college ranks you ain't going to the NFL. It's just a matter of time before you become too much of a pain in the ass to be put up with.

[Quaoarsking]

This sport desperately needs to establish long-term contracts and salary caps like the NFL and other professional sports. That could curb 90% of the angst against the current system, all but the "they shouldn't be paid at all!!!" crowd.

[BeardoMSU]

This sport desperately needs to establish long-term contracts and salary caps like the NFL and other professional sports. That could curb 90% of the angst against the current system, all but the "they shouldn't be paid at all!!!" crowd.

Agreed, and to get to that point, we need more stupid moments like this to show how said changes are needed asap.

[Coursesuper]

What is the real push to change the current system? Ask this first, are the most powerful institutions under duress in any way under the current circumstances? Are they put in a position of need? Quick answer is no. They still benefit from the current system, until they hurt there will be no change.

[Bothrops]

A rare win in this hurricane of shit

[CaptainObvious]

It's not a win for the fans. Somebody will pay him what he wants and sign him. Count on it. They may structure it using some scheming, but someone like maybe Auburn will find a way. Ole Miss probably want because they think they have their guy.

[DEDawg]

It's not a win for the fans. Somebody will pay him what he wants and sign him. Count on it. They may structure it using some scheming, but someone like maybe Auburn will find a way. Ole Miss probably want because they think they have their guy.

I don?t think he gets $4M. UT is not some virtuous ethical program, he simply is not worth that much money.

[sandjunky]

Good on UT

[The Federalist Engineer]

It's gross but to the player, "these rich idiots will pay me, let's see how much".

But from a roster perspective, a coach would love to delete his number and basically freeze him out. "We are going to see who wants his current deal".

[EdwardDrayton]

I commend TN for drawing a line. But they're 17ed now. Ain't it grand. :)

[Coach34]

I commend TN for drawing a line. But they're 17ed now. Ain't it grand. :)

They will pull a starting QB from another school happy to accept $2MM to wear that jersey. It could be one of ours. They will be fine

[Pinto]

This sport desperately needs to establish long-term contracts and salary caps like the NFL and other professional sports. That could curb 90% of the angst against the current system, all but the "they shouldn't be paid at all!!!" crowd.

I think then you will just get back to the under the table money. Who?s going to enforce the salary cap? The NCAA? The box is open and a lid will never be put back on it.

[Quaoarsking]

I think then you will just get back to the under the table money. Who?s going to enforce the salary cap? The NCAA? The box is open and a lid will never be put back on it.

Who enforces the NFL salary cap? It can definitely be done if there is the will to do so, and harsh punishments for schools that break the rules.

[Todd4State]

I think then you will just get back to the under the table money. Who?s going to enforce the salary cap? The NCAA? The box is open and a lid will never be put back on it.

The best way to stop that and no one wants to say it or do it- especially Mississippi State- is to pay the players so much that the under the table offers don't matter.

That's what happens in college baseball. No boosters is ever going to outbid a MLB team for a player that gets drafted if the MLB team really wants that player.

[EdwardDrayton]

They will pull a starting QB from another school happy to accept $2MM to wear that jersey. It could be one of ours. They will be fine

Tennessee won't be shopping at second hand QB stores, so ours are safe. We'll see if they are able to dredge a comparable replacement.

[Todd4State]

They will pull a starting QB from another school happy to accept $2MM to wear that jersey. It could be one of ours. They will be fine

I didn't know that things made out of glass like Blake Shapen were going for that much.

[ZedFedder]

Listening to a podcast yesterday, they seemed to insinuate that a lot of this is not necessarily Nico but his camp (his dad and a friend).

[Pancho]

Yep, it's called collusion and MLB owners did this in the free agent seasons of 85, 86, and 87. Several players signed for way less than market value and some remained unsigned until late-April/May. Owners were found guilty, had to pay restitution over a three year period and several players including Kirk Gibson and Jack Morris were awarded free agency. The owners were found guilty of this because it violated the labor agreement with the MLBPA.
However, there is no such system in place in this stupid, rouge shite that we are calling college athletics, so collude against these spoiled babies. That'd stop this horse crap, but you know there are Ole Miss' out there who'd break rank to sign these shitheads.

I get your point but not in this case. Kiffin knows this guy ain't a real QB.

[DownwardDawg]

Listening to a podcast yesterday, they seemed to insinuate that a lot of this is not necessarily Nico but his camp (his dad and a friend).

One of them is most likely a "reverend".

[Political Hack]

The machine at Buford was built by my high school coach and a former player who was 2 years ahead of me in high school. When the coach was at our school, my Senior year we had a damn good team returning with an All-American QB. Our boosters put together a fund to pay for apartments for transfer players to live in and coach recruited a team to make a run for a state title. We destroyed everyone in our region, but still couldn't compete with the old power programs like SW Dekalb and Valdosta. That was 1990. Recruiting in high school football in Georgia is as old as the game itself.

They police it more now but someone has to report it. Kids are driving an hour to school just to play football at a certain place. Gwinnett County's biggest import is high school athletes.