Keep on eye on Jan and Texas A&M

[Coach34]

There has been talks

[EdwardDrayton]

I'd like to see him stay another year but we can replace him at least in kind. If not better.

[Coach34]

I'd like to see him stay another year but we can replace him at least in kind. If not better.

He is already one of the best coaches in State history. Not so fast my friend

[EdwardDrayton]

He is already one of the best coaches in State history. Not so fast my friend

Yes he is but our historical bar is not terribly high. I just simply don't think we will suffer as a program whenever he decides to leave. There are coaches out there I believe we can get that will at least be as good.

[AROB44]

Yes he is but our historical bar is not terribly high. I just simply don't think we will suffer as a program whenever he decides to leave. There are coaches out there I believe we can get that will at least be as good.

Well, you can believe it, but I sure don't. He's the best BB coach we've had since Babe......and that's a long time ago.

[NCMSTFAN]

He is already one of the best coaches in State history. Not so fast my friend

He is, but there seems to be something missing with him. In all 3 years we start off strong, beat a couple really good teams early in the season, but then fade off towards the end of the season and make no noise in the post season. I don't take for granted that we have made the tournament 3 years in a row and thats rare for us in recent years so I'm not running him off. I just don't think he is irreplaceable.

I also heard Chris Beards name thrown in there as a possible candidate for the A&M job.

[msstate7]

He is, but there seems to be something missing with him. In all 3 years we start off strong, beat a couple really good teams early in the season, but then fade off towards the end of the season and make no noise in the post season. I don't take for granted that we have made the tournament 3 years in a row and thats rare for us in recent years so I'm not running him off. I just don't think he is irreplaceable.

I also heard Chris Beards name thrown in there as a possible candidate for the A&M job.

If they're willing to hire beard, there's no question who you hire? He's a top 10 coach.

[msstate7]

Beard to aTm
Jans to OM
We hire Kermit Davis or someone similar

[NCMSTFAN]

If they're willing to hire beard, there's no question who you hire? He's a top 10 coach.

Agreed, Beard is the better coach. We did beat them twice this year but I'm taking Beard of the two if I had to choose. He's had more post season success, the man can coach when it counts most. People forget he had Texas Tech in the National Championship game several years ago.

[civildawg]

Honestly wouldn't be mad. He did an absolutely terrible job coaching this team this year. The problem is selmon hiring someone else.

[NCMSTFAN]

Honestly wouldn't be mad. He did an absolutely terrible job coaching this team this year. The problem is selmon hiring someone else.

Yea, alot of people use the fact that he got us to the tournament the last 3 years but I personally am not just satisfied with making the tournament if all we are going to do is lose in round 1. Its crazy to me how long its been since we've actually one a game in the NCAA tournament. Even Purcell has won a couple

[WinningIsRelentless]

You go throw 750k to a shane power type to come in and be the gm and hire the coach.

With NIL numbers where they are you need a dividing line between player evaluation/budget management and coaching.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You go throw 750k to a shane power type to come in and be the gm and hire the coach.

With NIL numbers where they are you need a dividing line between player evaluation/budget management and coaching.

That would be a 7 figure pay cut and making him relocate to Starkville. Why the hell would Shane go for that?

[BigDawg81]

I seen the graphic that on3 presented. It is funny to me that only 2 coaches on the graphic are Mississippi coaches.

[parabrave]

These days with the NIL we need the athletic office to operate like a pro football team with scouts and talent evaluators. Sorry but just having a coaching staff doesn't cut it anymore.

[DownwardDawg]

Honestly wouldn't be mad. He did an absolutely terrible job coaching this team this year. The problem is selmon hiring someone else.

This. Anytime we've had an average to above average coach, our AD always downgrades tremendously when we hire the next one. We can't get out of our own way. Leadership......

[StarkVegasSteve]

I feel pretty confident in my sourcing on this, Beard and A&M talks are pretty far along and they are confident the deal will get done before the end of the week.

[KB21]

I feel pretty confident in my sourcing on this, Beard and A&M talks are pretty far along and they are confident the deal will get done before the end of the week.

I knew Beard wouldn't stay at Ole Miss long.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I knew Beard wouldn't stay at Ole Miss long.

I mean he has been living in a boosters pool house for the last 2 seasons

[Coach34]

You go throw 750k to a shane power type to come in and be the gm and hire the coach.

Bart Hyche has been a big help to the program the last couple of years- in addition to the obvious ones.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bart Hyche has been a big help to the program the last couple of years- in addition to the obvious ones.

That is who I would look at hiring. I also know Jans likes him, which is big with Chris since he does not like a whole lot of people.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I could certainly see the appeal for Jans to go to aTm if they want him. Their basketball history is kind of on par with us, but their $$$ is much better flowing in the NIL era. I have no idea when people will learn that Beard or Kiffin are not going anywhere unless it's a major blue blood.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I could certainly see the appeal for Jans to go to aTm if they want him. Their basketball history is kind of on par with us, but their $$$ is much better flowing in the NIL era. I have no idea when people will learn that Beard or Kiffin are not going anywhere unless it's a major blue blood.

Well this one is pretty close to being done. Numbers being thrown around are pretty high. 7 mil for Beard and 12-15 million for NIL.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Well this one is pretty close to being done. Numbers being thrown around are pretty high. 7 mil for Beard and 12-15 million for NIL.

I mean I will believe it when I see it. No offense man but you said the same thing about him going to Indiana that it was wrapped up. I just think Carter is a really good AD and is going to do what it takes to keep coaches. Selmon on the other hand I am not sold on.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean I will believe it when I see it. No offense man but you said the same thing about him going to Indiana that it was wrapped up. I just think Carter is a really good AD and is going to do what it takes to keep coaches. Selmon on the other hand I am not sold on.

I mean you believe what you want. I also never said he was locked in at Indiana. He was one of their top targets, which I said. But they wanted to move fast and had a chance to get a very good coach in DeVries. Make no mistake though, Beard wanted that job.

[Coach34]

obviously most of us hope they go with Beard

[KB21]

I mean you believe what you want. I also never said he was locked in at Indiana. He was one of their top targets, which I said. But they wanted to move fast and had a chance to get a very good coach in DeVries. Make no mistake though, Beard wanted that job.

It cracks me up to see our fans glorify Keith Carter at Ole Miss while trashing Selmon at Mississippi State. It's very clear they don't understand the NIL situation that Selmon inherited.

[BankerDog]

Yes he is but our historical bar is not terribly high. I just simply don't think we will suffer as a program whenever he decides to leave. There are coaches out there I believe we can get that will at least be as good.

Said everyone when Stans left.

[DDawg]

obviously most of us hope they go with Beard

Yeah that?s really all we can hope for at this point please take a great coach from OM so we can feel better about being a dogshit program satisfied with THE DENTIST who can?t win in March to save his life. Hey as long as we have another chance of beating them in February or something that?s of the utmost importance.

I think the problem with our admin / programs whatever you want to call it is they are nowhere near as embarrassed as they should be over where things stand right now.

Maybe not quite a bold prediction but if Beard does leave OM I?d be willing to bet that whoever they hire next will win a tournament game before Mr Cool The Dentist Jans. Should be called Chris Jansuary bc that seems to be about his peak.

[DownwardDawg]

Said everyone when Stans left.

Again, that's because we have always lacked strong leadership. We replace average coaches with terrible coaches. That's what we do. We never upgrade.

[PGHBulldogBG]

It cracks me up to see our fans glorify Keith Carter at Ole Miss while trashing Selmon at Mississippi State. It's very clear they don't understand the NIL situation that Selmon inherited.

I don't really see fans glorifying Carter or trashing Selmon, but you are in denial if you think Carter is not a fantastic AD. There is no doubt Selmon inherited a NIL mess by Cohen, which is why I am willing to give him a longer leash. I am just not sold on him because he has not yet done anything to tell me he is good or bad. The Lebby hire is still a big question mark because last year nobody was winning with that team. This year will tell us a lot more about Lebby. Carter has done a great job keeping Kiffin though given his success. We never do a good job at keeping coaches around that long if they are flirting with other jobs.

[Coach34]

There is a case to be made that Mississippi has the best coaching staff in the SEC with Kiffin/Beard/Bunko. Those guys have maximized that shithole school to be better than they should be

[DDawg]

But Selmon gave us the state script and those sweet sweet interlocking helmets for a game. That?s gotta count for something, hell he might have even hired us a football coach that will win 5 games this year.

[ScottH]

There is a case to be made that Mississippi has the best coaching staff in the SEC with Kiffin/Beard/Bunko. Those guys have maximized that shithole school to be better than they should be

Currently top 2 with Tennessee.

[EdwardDrayton]

Said everyone when Stans left.

I admit there is a growing concern we are once again plagued by painfully ineffectual leadership both internally and externally that will not make a good decision.

[TrapGame]

I read this thread and it occurs to me that my apathy for Mississippi State sports has reached an all time low. I genuinely do not care. I would have been fuming over this five years ago. I'm still holding out for some improvement concerning football. Going 6-6 would be huge and some reassurance that Lebby was a good hire.

[Goldendawg]

I don't really see fans glorifying Carter or trashing Selmon, but you are in denial if you think Carter is not a fantastic AD. There is no doubt Selmon inherited a NIL mess by Cohen, which is why I am willing to give him a longer leash. I am just not sold on him because he has not yet done anything to tell me he is good or bad. The Lebby hire is still a big question mark because last year nobody was winning with that team. This year will tell us a lot more about Lebby. Carter has done a great job keeping Kiffin though given his success. We never do a good job at keeping coaches around that long if they are flirting with other jobs.

If he's done any big things, it is definitely behind the scenes and not shared with the majority of the fans. Going up on season football tickets and Bulldog Club (seating fees) dues after 2-10 was an insult to all State fans. I'm hearing sales are bad. Anyone got any info?

[AROB44]

If he's done any big things, it is definitely behind the scenes and not shared with the majority of the fans. Going up on season football tickets and Bulldog Club (seating fees) dues after 2-10 was an insult to all State fans. I'm hearing sales are bad. Anyone got any info?

Why do people think he needs to "share" with fans? I always thought that the best ADs were the ones who were not always "sharing".

[gtowndawg]

But Selmon gave us the state script and those sweet sweet interlocking helmets for a game. That?s gotta count for something, hell he might have even hired us a football coach that will win 5 games this year.

Where do I sign up for 5 wins? That would feel amazing compared to last year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Where do I sign up for 5 wins? That would feel amazing compared to last year.

I would sign up for 5 wins next year right now.

[PGHBulldogBG]

5 wins next year and I will believe in Lebby and think we are going in the right direction. 3 or under we made the wrong hire. 4 wins kind of still unsure.

[Coach34]

Vegas has our win total at 3.5

[99jc]

I may be a dumbass but i really think Lebby will be a good coach!

[Tater]

Beard to aggy is a done deal

[Tater]

There are about to be a ton of old Aggy tweets resurface trashing on Texsa.

Will be a very funny couple of haterade days.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Beard to aggy is a done deal

McCready is saying he is staying. TexAgs and some basketball Twitter accounts say he is going. Looks like we are about to have a source off. I would usually be inclined to believe Neal but I think he is being a little blinded by his love for basketball and Beard. He has made no attempt to hide that Beard is the best basketball coach OM has had and his favorite to cover because he will come on their show. Be interesting to see how this one plays out. I still say Beard ends up an Aggy. I do not think Ole Miss can go to the level A&M will go without sacrificing football a little

[EdwardDrayton]

McCready is saying he is staying. TexAgs and some basketball Twitter accounts say he is going. Looks like we are about to have a source off. I would usually be inclined to believe Neal but I think he is being a little blinded by his love for basketball and Beard. He has made no attempt to hide that Beard is the best basketball coach OM has had and his favorite to cover because he will come on their show. Be interesting to see how this one plays out. I still say Beard ends up an Aggy. I do not think Ole Miss can go to the level A&M will go without sacrificing football a little

A lot of folks in the Grove 'bout to be renting their clothes and gnashing their teeth. LOL!!

[Tater]

McCready is saying he is staying. TexAgs and some basketball Twitter accounts say he is going. Looks like we are about to have a source off. I would usually be inclined to believe Neal but I think he is being a little blinded by his love for basketball and Beard. He has made no attempt to hide that Beard is the best basketball coach OM has had and his favorite to cover because he will come on their show. Be interesting to see how this one plays out. I still say Beard ends up an Aggy. I do not think Ole Miss can go to the level A&M will go without sacrificing football a little

I don't have sources in OM land.
I have some (but not to the levels of others here) sources in State.
I have top notch sources in OU, Aggy, and Texsa land.

Aggy sources are saying Beard is done deal. OU and Texsa sources are cackling and repeating it. Texsa is ready to give their little brother so much shit upon arrival.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Beard is using this to get a bigger raise at Ole Miss. It definitely might work because Ole Miss is all in to be successful in sports.

[NCMSTFAN]

Beard is using this to get a bigger raise at Ole Miss. It definitely might work because Ole Miss is all in to be successful in sports.

Yes they are, they had success this year with both basketball teams and football. They have stepped it up, I have to give them respect for that. Losing Beard would hurt them but I never expected him to stick around long and to be honest if Jans gets a decent offer elsewhere I don't think he stays long either.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yes they are, they had success this year with both basketball teams and football. They have stepped it up, I have to give them respect for that. Losing Beard would hurt them but I never expected him to stick around long and to be honest if Jans gets a decent offer elsewhere I don't think he stays long either.

Jans buyout is going to be a nonstarter for a lot of teams.

[Tater]

I will say this. For Beard and whomever is right on where he coaches next year - it's a win win for him. He can freely hit his wife at either school.

[BeardoMSU]

Doesn't look like he's going to A&M, lol.

https://twitter.com/ChaseParham/status/1907510455448600842

[Tater]

Doesn't look like he's going to A&M, lol.

https://twitter.com/ChaseParham/status/1907510455448600842

Swing and a miss by me. Funny either way tbh.

[msstate7]

And to top it off, watch aTm take jans.

[DownwardDawg]

And to top it off, watch aTm take jans.

Lol. Yep.

[TrapGame]

And to top it off, watch aTm take jans.

Well, of course that's what they'll do. We are Mississippi State by God.

[Tater]

And to top it off, watch aTm take jans.

Sounds like cope now, but I'm told this is all negotiation posturing and Aggy will end up around 7.5 mil + 18 mil NIL + minimal buyout after 2 years for Beard. Gut is he's stepping up towards Kansas whenever Self eventually retires which is sooner rather than later.

If OM lets him walk away scot free with a future buyout from his end then he's staying. Flexibility seems to be his biggest piece. Interesting that the ability to walk away is what he values most when he didn't let his wife have that ability.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I will never understand why our fans continue to believe Kiffin and Beard are leaving. It's not happening unless it's Kansas in hoops or someone like Bama in football. Especially as long as Carter is the AD.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And to top it off, watch aTm take jans.

On the off chance that starts to become a possibility, I have a hot board ready to go. I do not think it will happen though, Jans buyout is HIGH

[NCMSTFAN]

On the off chance that starts to become a possibility, I have a hot board ready to go. I do not think it will happen though, Jans buyout is HIGH

I don't know numbers like you do but wouldn't a school like aTm have the money to buy him out?

[NCMSTFAN]

On the off chance that starts to become a possibility, I have a hot board ready to go. I do not think it will happen though, Jans buyout is HIGH

Again, I don't follow numbers and salaries closely but according to USA today Beard's buyout is 19.8 million and Jans' is 10.6 million. If they were willing to buyout Beard, I'm sure they would for Jans if they think he is good enough.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Again, I don't follow numbers and salaries closely but according to USA today Beard's buyout is 19.8 million and Jans' is 10.6 million. If they were willing to buyout Beard, I'm sure they would for Jans if they think he is good enough.

His buyout is not 19. That is if OM fired him. His buyout was 3.5.

[Activated Alpha]

Well, of course that's what they'll do. We are Mississippi State by God.

Chimed in because this made me laugh. If this isn't the truest damn statement about our university I don't know what is

[CarolinaDawgs]

I mean you believe what you want. I also never said he was locked in at Indiana. He was one of their top targets, which I said. But they wanted to move fast and had a chance to get a very good coach in DeVries. Make no mistake though, Beard wanted that job.

"Beard to Indiana is as signed, sealed, and delivered as it can be."-- StarkVegasSteve 3-14-25 1:56pm (Fran McCaffrey thread post #9)

I mean believe what you want....

[Bothrops]

If A &M wants him he's gone. He would definitely have a lot more options in the portal over there that he doesn't have now.

[Patrick Tibbons]

"Beard to Indiana is as signed, sealed, and delivered as it can be."-- StarkVegasSteve 3-14-25 1:56pm (Fran McCaffrey thread post #9)

I mean believe what you want....

I?m not sure when people are going to realize that StarkVegasSteve just makes stuff up.

[Turfdawg67]

Yeah that?s really all we can hope for at this point please take a great coach from OM so we can feel better about being a dogshit program satisfied with THE DENTIST who can?t win in March to save his life. Hey as long as we have another chance of beating them in February or something that?s of the utmost importance.

I think the problem with our admin / programs whatever you want to call it is they are nowhere near as embarrassed as they should be over where things stand right now.

Maybe not quite a bold prediction but if Beard does leave OM I?d be willing to bet that whoever they hire next will win a tournament game before Mr Cool The Dentist Jans. Should be called Chris Jansuary bc that seems to be about his peak.


But Selmon gave us the state script and those sweet sweet interlocking helmets for a game. That?s gotta count for something, hell he might have even hired us a football coach that will win 5 games this year.


This guy is back with a new handle. Lolz

[Turfdawg67]

Where do I sign up for 5 wins? That would feel amazing compared to last year.

Geez? how low our standards have become. We won 9 games three years ago.

[R2Dawg]

If A &M wants him he's gone. He would definitely have a lot more options in the portal over there that he doesn't have now.

I'm not sure about that. TAMU basketball ain't much. What have they done? They got more money but that ain't won them nothing in anything. They got Garcia from MSU - big get. Buzz had most recent success there as anyone.

TAMU has a weird culture and no one wants to go there.

[DownwardDawg]

Geez? how low our standards have become. We won 9 games three years ago.

It's incredible

[Thick]

Beard staying at OM.

[HoopsDawg]

"Beard to Indiana is as signed, sealed, and delivered as it can be."-- StarkVegasSteve 3-14-25 1:56pm (Fran McCaffrey thread post #9)

I mean believe what you want....

Receipts. Dayum.

[BeardoMSU]

Beard staying at OM.

Really?!?**

[Turfdawg67]

"Beard to Indiana is as signed, sealed, and delivered as it can be."-- StarkVegasSteve 3-14-25 1:56pm (Fran McCaffrey thread post #9)

I mean believe what you want....

The guy provides great content, leave him be. He's right much more of the time.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The guy provides great content, leave him be. He's right much more of the time.

Turf like I have said before, I just pass along what I hear. It would please me to no end to be right all the time. That does not happen in college sports though. I will own up to being wrong when I am. Missed on Beard. Pool house won out.

[StateDawg44]

Geez? how low our standards have become. We won 9 games three years ago.

Yeah hoping for 5 wins is very bleak

[Coach34]

Turf like I have said before, I just pass along what I hear. It would please me to no end to be right all the time. That does not happen in college sports though. I will own up to being wrong when I am. Missed on Beard. Pool house won out.

Part of the gig. I get a ton of shit correct- but people will always dwell on when you miss. Part of it around the boards

[DEDawg]

Part of the gig. I get a ton of shit correct- but people will always dwell on when you miss. Part of it around the boards

lol okay yeah sure that is the reason people dwell on you.

@SVS you were wrong about JA and Beard but outside of those 2 you've been pretty spot on and its impossible to know what a college kid is gonna do last second with a million dollars on the line so keep it coming

[Coach34]

lol okay yeah sure that is the reason people dwell on you.

This board exists because of me. And it wasnt because I was wrong alot

And Slickdawg setting it up on April Fools Day is legendary!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

lol okay yeah sure that is the reason people dwell on you.

@SVS you were wrong about JA and Beard but outside of those 2 you've been pretty spot on and its impossible to know what a college kid is gonna do last second with a million dollars on the line so keep it coming

The Beard stuff was just wild because Indiana people had said he was the priority candidate and they would wait for him and then they up and hire DeVries. And hell even Billy Liucci said that Beard to A&M was basically a done deal as of about 8 AM this morning. Kudos to Keith and that staff for pulling it off to bring him back though.

[BeardoMSU]

Them committing to Beard and getting him to commit to them, via NIL guarantees....is...a problem.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Them committing to Beard and getting him to commit to them, via NIL guarantees....is...a problem.

They will commit to him until it interferes with Kiffin. The minute it does that, and it will, Beard will be like Kevin Willard at Maryland.

[Coach34]

So back to the original post- A&M is ramping up to get a guy quickly.

[Cooterpoot]

Won't be Jans

[CarolinaDawgs]

Turf like I have said before, I just pass along what I hear. It would please me to no end to be right all the time. That does not happen in college sports though. I will own up to being wrong when I am. Missed on Beard. Pool house won out.


I absolutely love the info. It?s what we all come to the board for. Dont stop sharing, but dont gaslight somebody on here that called you out. Thats BS and we all know it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Won't be Jans

Jans will be here next year. After that….well we better have a good replacement lined up every year.

[LC Dawg]

They will commit to him until it interferes with Kiffin. The minute it does that, and it will, Beard will be like Kevin Willard at Maryland.

And baseball doesn't figure in at all for them and we don't and don't want to accept that.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Part of the gig. I get a ton of shit correct- but people will always dwell on when you miss. Part of it around the boards

Nobody expects 100% accuracy. The problem people have with you is you're 1) 100% confident in everything you say, right or wrong, and 2) you don't admit when you were wrong. A little humility goes a long way

[PGHBulldogBG]

SVD and 34 you both are right more so than wrong and info is appreciated. I just think our fans need to accept the fact Kiffin and Beard are going nowhere while Carter is there. I just get tired of seeing it over and over. Now from solely State sports perspective your news is usually always accurate and much appreciated

[StarkVegasSteve]

SVD and 34 you both are right more so than wrong and info is appreciated. I just think our fans need to accept the fact Kiffin and Beard are going nowhere while Carter is there. I just get tired of seeing it over and over. Now from solely State sports perspective your news is usually always accurate and much appreciated

I still do not think Beard is there for the long haul. Hell the guy is still living in a pool house. Kiffin on the other hand, I think he will be there. Although I will be honest, he really does not scare me anymore. His best team had trouble moving the ball on one of the worst defenses we have ever had. I also think they are going to take a massive step back this year.

[Tater]

Nobody expects 100% accuracy. The problem people have with you is you're 1) 100% confident in everything you say, right or wrong, and 2) you don't admit when you were wrong. A little humility goes a long way

Right. No one's ripping on me for being wrong. I literally flat said (because I was told verbatim) Beard to A&M is a done deal.

Personally I'm cracking up because Aggy is learning that they aren't as rich as their ego thinks they are. Hence the confident comment I was given. Side note - said source said this morning that this is all posturing and negotiation and he's confident Beard hasn't "fully shut the door".

Based on the backtrack - you can interpret it how you want. I would say he's probably 90% to staying at OM this year.

But yea - I just run with what people high up in OU/Texsa/Aggy circles tell me. I'd say 80% of the time they're right. Likely a 20% of the time here but there's still a chance. And the longer it drags out, the funnier imo.

[R2Dawg]

I still do not think Beard is there for the long haul. Hell the guy is still living in a pool house. Kiffin on the other hand, I think he will be there. Although I will be honest, he really does not scare me anymore. His best team had trouble moving the ball on one of the worst defenses we have ever had. I also think they are going to take a massive step back this year.

I tend to agree on all counts.

[Coach34]

Jan is talking to A&M again

[EdwardDrayton]

Jan is talking to A&M again

Wow. I could say some ugly things here but I'll just go with I hope he gets the job this time.

[HoopsDawg]

Jan is talking to A&M again

Be interesting to see how Selmon handles this.

[msstate7]

I wanna keep him, but if he wants to go, go. Let's find a guy to get lined up for portal

[msstate7]

If he goes, what about Scott cross? Won at 3 different spots, and he's done a good job at Troy.

[EdwardDrayton]

I wanna keep him, but if he wants to go, go. Let's find a guy to get lined up for portal

He obviously wants to go.

[NCMSTFAN]

I wanna keep him, but if he wants to go, go. Let's find a guy to get lined up for portal

If this is true and he is talking to aTm I hope he gets offered and I hope he goes. Last year he tried going to Arkansas now aTm?... again if it's true he can leave for all im concerned. He just doesn't seem like he wants to be here or that he even enjoys having the job

[msstate7]

I'd probably take the OM approach and try to keep a good coach if possible. I don't hold grudges... I'm sure they're offering him more money and more NIL money, so better chance of winning. I hope we up both to keep him personally. If we can't though, just do it soon, so we can get the process going

[EdwardDrayton]

If this is true and he is talking to aTm I hope he gets offered and I hope he goes. Last year he tried going to Arkansas now aTm?... again if it's true he can leave for all im concerned. He just doesn't seem like he wants to be here or that he even enjoys having the job

It's a very surprising move for someone I assume wants to be seen as a top line coach.

[CaptainObvious]

Jan is talking to A&M again

Since their baseball program is also struggling, offer thrn a package deal. They can have Jans if they take Croomonis too.

[Tater]

Jan is talking to A&M again

This is weird framing.

"Again"

He never stopped talking. Just like Beard hasn't stopped talking. Both agents are doing their job. Beard is more likely because A&M doesn't want Buzz Ball. They want someone who can grow high octane offense. Jans hasn't proven that YET.


Neither coach to A&M is dead nor has the agent communication ever broken down. It's there. Beard is more serious and would get more money. Jans is looking at about 5.5 mil.

My State "sources" say we'd match. But I don't think either Jans or Aggy really want that marriage. Jans knows he can minimum drag us to the tourney now. He just needs to win two games in march to double his salary.

Hes got a 14 against the dealer showing 13 and he's saying hit me.

[EdwardDrayton]

This is weird framing.

"Again"

He never stopped talking. Just like Beard hasn't stopped talking. Both agents are doing their job. Beard is more likely because A&M doesn't want Buzz Ball. They want someone who can grow high octane offense. Jans hasn't proven that YET.


Neither coach to A&M is dead nor has the agent communication ever broken down. It's there. Beard is more serious and would get more money. Jans is looking at about 5.5 mil.

My State "sources" say we'd match. But I don't think either Jans or Aggy really want that marriage. Jans knows he can minimum drag us to the tourney now. He just needs to win two games in march to double his salary.

Hes got a 14 against the dealer showing 13 and he's saying hit me.

Your take does not square with what has been reported.

[msstate7]

This is weird framing.

"Again"

He never stopped talking. Just like Beard hasn't stopped talking. Both agents are doing their job. Beard is more likely because A&M doesn't want Buzz Ball. They want someone who can grow high octane offense. Jans hasn't proven that YET.


Neither coach to A&M is dead nor has the agent communication ever broken down. It's there. Beard is more serious and would get more money. Jans is looking at about 5.5 mil.

My State "sources" say we'd match. But I don't think either Jans or Aggy really want that marriage. Jans knows he can minimum drag us to the tourney now. He just needs to win two games in march to double his salary.

Hes got a 14 against the dealer showing 13 and he's saying hit me.

The style is a good point. Jans and buzz are both defense first guys that usually struggle to consistently score.

[Tater]

Your take does not square with what has been reported.

Yea well Ole Miss has guys who always toe the company line and we have a disarray of folks who just want to make a name for themselves.

Neal reporting that Beard is staying keeps him his job of being an OM reporter. If he leaves - "well Carter decided X coach with +4 mil in NIL was better than beard and we let Aggy overspend."

Random State jackass reporting that Jan's is staying earns him no favor with org nor any street cred. Pumping up the story and being first to be right gets him noticed by a bigger publication and he can get out of the reporting hellhole we have.

Thats just reality and until we play the fluff piece reporting game. That will always be reality and OM will get pumped to oblivion by ESPN while we get nothing.

[EdwardDrayton]

Yea well Ole Miss has guys who always toe the company line and we have a disarray of folks who just want to make a name for themselves.

Neal reporting that Beard is staying keeps him his job of being an OM reporter. If he leaves - "well Carter decided X coach with +4 mil in NIL was better than beard and we let Aggy overspend."

Random State jackass reporting that Jan's is staying earns him no favor with org nor any street cred. Pumping up the story and being first to be right gets him noticed by a bigger publication and he can get out of the reporting hellhole we have.

Thats just reality and until we play the fluff piece reporting game. That will always be reality and OM will get pumped to oblivion by ESPN while we get nothing.

There are some pretty prominent sources saying Beard is staying put; and there are details about what Ole Miss is giving him. Seems more credible than not. So if true, Jans is circling back as a second or third choice. We would never see a top line coach being a part of such a scenario. Just smacks of Jans really wanting out.

[Coach34]

Beard used A&M for a pay raise

Jan may be doing the same thing- we'll see

[EdwardDrayton]

Beard used A&M for a pay raise

It sure appears so. And more NIL.

[EdwardDrayton]

Beard used A&M for a pay raise

Jan may be doing the same thing- we'll see

Not likely given the way it appears to be playing out. He likely will take it if offered.

[Tater]

There are some pretty prominent sources saying Beard is staying put; and there are details about what Ole Miss is giving him. Seems more credible than not. So if true, Jans is circling back as a second or third choice. We would never see a top line coach being a part of such a scenario. Just smacks of Jans really wanting out.

Follow the source. All of your "major sources" cite back to Neal.

It's the same concept as if Person A goes and tweets something but "I can't tweet till I have double confirmation" says ESPN.

Source B tweets something citing source A.
Source C tweets something citing source B.

ESPN reports it citing source B and source C now that they have double confirmation.

Welcome to 21st century reporting.

Highly recommend the Newsroom if you haven't watched it.

[EdwardDrayton]

Follow the source. All of your "major sources" cite back to Neal.

It's the same concept as if Person A goes and tweets something but "I can't tweet till I have double confirmation" says ESPN.

Source B tweets something citing source A.
Source C tweets something citing source B.

ESPN reports it citing source B and source C now that they have double confirmation.

Welcome to 21st century reporting.

Highly recommend the Newsroom if you haven't watched it.

That is simply not true.

[Cooterpoot]

Beard is staying at OM
Jan's is staying at State

Y'all can shut this down

[EdwardDrayton]

Beard is staying at OM
Jan's is staying at State

Y'all can shut this down

Then why is Jans talking to A&M?

Who's right, you or Coach?

Seems like there's too much dog$hit info that's thrown out here.

[HoopsDawg]

Beard is staying at OM
Jan's is staying at State

Y'all can shut this down

I hope Jans stays. I also hope we don't offer him a foolish contract.

[msstate7]

I hope Jans stays. I also hope we don't offer him a foolish contract.

If he's smart, he's pushing for more NIL, not salary. Get more NIl, and salary increase will follow here or somewhere

[EdwardDrayton]

I hope Jans stays. I also hope we don't offer him a foolish contract.

Exactly. Don't mind if he stays. But let's not be stupid. Especially given what appears to be happening.

[EdwardDrayton]

If he's smart, he's pushing for more NIL, not salary. Get more NIl, and salary increase will follow here or somewhere

Only if he stays and shows he can get past the first round. He will take the A&M job if it's offered.

[msstate7]

He will take the A&M job if it's offered.
You go from accusing others of making stuff up to speaking in an absolute that you don't know for sure, too.

[EdwardDrayton]

You go from accusing others of making stuff up to speaking in an absolute that you don't know for sure, too.

I am predicting. There's a difference. Neal being the sole source is simply not true.

[Tater]

That is simply not true.

Lol. So some like ESPN don't even cite the work. Great technicality. Spirit of what I say still stands true.


On3 - Neal
SI - On3
ESPN - "sources"
USA Today - "multiple reports"
CBS - "multiple sources"

Please show me anything that goes back to someone other than Neal. The reality is that major reporting just has a bigger platform than message boards and you won't know the truth of negotiations until pen is to paper.

[Cooterpoot]

Then why is Jans talking to A&M?

Who's right, you or Coach?

Seems like there's too much dog$hit info that's thrown out here.

He's not

[DEDawg]

Hes got a 14 against the dealer showing 13 and he's saying hit me.

Completely not the point here, but how could a dealer be showing 13?

[msstate7]

Completely not the point here, but how could a dealer be showing 13?

Uhhh... a 3

[StarkVegasSteve]

If this is true and he is talking to aTm I hope he gets offered and I hope he goes. Last year he tried going to Arkansas now aTm?... again if it's true he can leave for all im concerned. He just doesn't seem like he wants to be here or that he even enjoys having the job

He never even interviewed with Arkansas. And they never even asked to interview Jans. I was in Phoenix for that whole saga and know people very high up on the Arkansas side, that deal was done Thursday night between John Tyson, Yurachek, and Cal. Agents around Phoenix knew that and were just trying to get raises for their clients out of it. Jans' agent was no different.

Here's the thing on Jans though. If he wants to go, and they actually offer him the job, then maybe it will be best for him to go. His buyout is STOUT and we can take that buyout and go hire a really good coach with it.

[AROB44]

He never even interviewed with Arkansas. And they never even asked to interview Jans. I was in Phoenix for that whole saga and know people very high up on the Arkansas side, that deal was done Thursday night between John Tyson, Yurachek, and Cal. Agents around Phoenix knew that and were just trying to get raises for their clients out of it. Jans' agent was no different.

Here's the thing on Jans though. If he wants to go, and they actually offer him the job, then maybe it will be best for him to go. His buyout is STOUT and we can take that buyout and go hire a really good coach with it.

i know that the standard belief is that the next coach will be much much better than the current one (regardless of sport), but we already have a really good basketball coach.

[StarkVegasSteve]

i know that the standard belief is that the next coach will be much much better than the current one (regardless of sport), but we already have a really good basketball coach.

Oh we do and I'm not saying we'll go hire someone better than Jans. I'm saying with the buyout money we could. Also, Jans isn't talking with A&M so it really is a moot point.

[Tater]

He's not

SVS explained it a bit below.

But every agent is talking in some fashion with a high profile job and trying to get raises for their clients. Beard and Jans are included in that list.

[StarkVegasSteve]

SVS explained it a bit below.

But every agent is talking in some fashion with a high profile job and trying to get raises for their clients. Beard and Jans are included in that list.

Every agent does this every year. Jans is just mentioned because the national media looks at the job he's done and knows what he could do with greater resources at a blueblood or somewhere with DEEP pockets. Same with Mullen. Same with Beard. I'd much rather have a coach mentioned than have a coach that no one wants. Because usually if no one wants him, it means your fan base doesn't want him either.

[Cooterpoot]

SVS explained it a bit below.

But every agent is talking in some fashion with a high profile job and trying to get raises for their clients. Beard and Jans are included in that list.

I can tell you, his agent ain't talking to A&M and Beard cobtract has already been announced. Holy shit you guys are desperate for attention!

[NCMSTFAN]

Every agent does this every year. Jans is just mentioned because the national media looks at the job he's done and knows what he could do with greater resources at a blueblood or somewhere with DEEP pockets. Same with Mullen. Same with Beard. I'd much rather have a coach mentioned than have a coach that no one wants. Because usually if no one wants him, it means your fan base doesn't want him either.

I'm not saying your wrong, I know success brings attention from bigger blue bloods with more resources but if that's ultimatley what it is about, we will never have consistent success in any sport. We will always be a stepping stone job for coaches, just look at the History of our successful coaches. Mullen had success then left, Shaeffer had success then left, heck our Women's soccer coach took us farther than we had ever gone in the history of our program then left. Yes I completely get it and that's the nature of the business but it would be nice to actually get a Coach in who stays and builds the program because they love it. That happens too believe it or not, its rare but it does happen.

[Brobi-wan]

I'm not saying your wrong, I know success brings attention from bigger blue bloods with more resources but if that's ultimatley what it is about, we will never have consistent success in any sport. We will always be a stepping stone job for coaches, just look at the History of our successful coaches. Mullen had success then left, Shaeffer had success then left, heck our Women's soccer coach took us farther than we had ever gone in the history of our program then left. Yes I completely get it and that's the nature of the business but it would be nice to actually get a Coach in who stays and builds the program because they love it. That happens too believe it or not, its rare but it does happen.

Well, that just means everything stays the same. We were consistently middling until 2021 and have consistently been middling or sucked at everything since. The girls Bball was a bright spot for a minute as well.

[KB21]

Bucky McMillan to TAMU. That?s the guy I would have gone after if Jans had left.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I just talked to Jans in San Antonio. He is staying and Hubbard is staying. Also, portal about to be fun

[BeardoMSU]

I just talked to Jans in San Antonio. He is staying and Hubbard is staying. Also, portal about to be fun

Unpopular opinion: I like Josh, but we'd probably be better off if he moved on. He's an inefficient volume shooter who is undersized and can't defend....and considering the amount of NIL he gets, I can't help but think that money could be spent elsewhere.

Now even with his flaws, him being the only semi "reliable" offensive weapon on the team is worrisome, obviously...

[StarkVegasSteve]

Unpopular opinion: I like Josh, but we'd probably be better off if he moved on. He's an inefficient volume shooter who is undersized and can't defend....and considering the amount of NIL he gets, I can't help but think that money could be spent elsewhere.

Now even with his flaws, him being the only semi "reliable" offensive weapon on the team is worrisome, obviously...

Jans thinks differently. Which is probably why he is making 5 mil, oh btw he got a raise. He was also PISSED at how the season ended.

[BeardoMSU]

Jans thinks differently. Which is probably why he is making 5 mil, oh btw he got a raise. He was also PISSED at how the season ended.

That's fine. I'm glad Jans is staying, too, btw.

I'd definitely like to see Josh on the court off the ball with a true PG and other players around him who can reliably hit shots...something we haven't had yet, clearly.

[Goldendawg]

Unpopular opinion: I like Josh, but we'd probably be better off if he moved on. He's an inefficient volume shooter who is undersized and can't defend....and considering the amount of NIL he gets, I can't help but think that money could be spent elsewhere.

Now even with his flaws, him being the only semi "reliable" offensive weapon on the team is worrisome, obviously...

I agree with you 100% and have posted this opinion several times. Check out the stats for the season just completed. He took 205 more shots than the next closest player, Murphy. I blame Jans for making him the center of the offense and I don't see how any pretty good guard would want to play in it. Next year will be more of the same. I watched him closely at every home game from row 4 and far too many times, he doesn't even stay in front of the player he is trying to guard. He can't help being 5'10, but keep in mind we lost about 7 of our last 10 games and were one and done in the NCAA tournament for the third straight year. Building a team so heavily around him is not the answer.

[EdwardDrayton]

Unpopular opinion: I like Josh, but we'd probably be better off if he moved on. He's an inefficient volume shooter who is undersized and can't defend....and considering the amount of NIL he gets, I can't help but think that money could be spent elsewhere.

Now even with his flaws, him being the only semi "reliable" offensive weapon on the team is worrisome, obviously...

Not so unpopular me thinks. Jans staking his job on Hubb seems a risky play.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's fine. I'm glad Jans is staying, too, btw.

I'd definitely like to see Josh on the court off the ball with a true PG and other players around him who can reliably hit shots...something we haven't had yet, clearly.

There are some different things we are going to do with Josh this year to alleviate things. Again, the portal is about to be fun is what he told me tonight.

[parabrave]

I agree with you 100% and have posted this opinion several times. Check out the stats for the season just completed. He took 205 more shots than the next closest player, Murphy. I blame Jans for making him the center of the offense and I don't see how any pretty good guard would want to play in it. Next year will be more of the same. I watched him closely at every home game from row 4 and far too many times, he doesn't even stay in front of the player he is trying to guard. He can't help being 5'10, but keep in mind we lost about 7 of our last 10 games and were one and done in the NCAA tournament for the third straight year. Building a team so heavily around him is not the answer.

Yep. He better get a real PG, Make Hub drive inside, Which he did a dam good job when he did, and get a real Center/PF who actually is a Basketball player,

[StarkVegasSteve]

Everything is taken care of. That is all I will say. Chris and Sheri are happy. He is here for the long haul and the portal haul is about to be NICE

[Pancho]

thx SVS

[StateDawg44]

Again, the portal is about to be fun is what he told me tonight.

Yeah we?ll see. I hope he is right.

Maybe we wont sign a player who contributes absolutely nothing for the 3rd year in a row.

[EdwardDrayton]

Everything is taken care of. That is all I will say. Chris and Sheri are happy. He is here for the long haul and the portal haul is about to be NICE

So he really wasn't talking with A&M? And please don't be that guy who says no because it was through his agent.

[MoreCowbell]

Everything is taken care of. That is all I will say. Chris and Sheri are happy. He is here for the long haul and the portal haul is about to be NICE

Any names to look out for?

[StarkVegasSteve]

So he really wasn't talking with A&M? And please don't be that guy who says no because it was through his agent.

Shockingly enough we did not discuss that at all. But I know he was not himself talking to them.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Any names to look out for?

No names. I just know we got a good amount of NIL funding that is a lot more than folks think we have.

[DEDawg]

Bucky McMillan was not on my list for them but I could see it working. It?s fun to see these guys who do more with less in mid majors suddenly get access to a ton of new resources and funds and see what happens

[Coach34]

Kinda like Mississippi with Kiffin- we are making it tough for him to leave unless its just a no-brainer job

[msstate7]

Kinda like Mississippi with Kiffin- we are making it tough for him to leave unless its just a no-brainer job

Good. He's a good coach and a good fit. Hopefully stark is right about the influx of money bc I feel we just not on par talent wise

[PGHBulldogBG]

Bucky McMillan was not on my list for them but I could see it working. It?s fun to see these guys who do more with less in mid majors suddenly get access to a ton of new resources and funds and see what happens

Bucky is a really good coach and I think he will do well at aTm. He has lived his whole life in the Birmingham Metro so it will be interesting to see how he does outside of his familiar grounds, but aTm is about to have a completely change in style.

[Coach34]

Good. He's a good coach and a good fit. Hopefully stark is right about the influx of money bc I feel we just not on par talent wise

We just couldnt make 3's enough consistently. We have got to get a couple of guys that can shoot the rock. Hubbard did a really good job of elevating his offensive game this past season- now he has to find a way to get a little better defensively

[EdwardDrayton]

With the increasing physicality the game is allowing, we better find some bodies or we're going to get bounced off the floor.

[Cowbell]

Everything is taken care of. That is all I will say. Chris and Sheri are happy. He is here for the long haul and the portal haul is about to be NICE

Thanks for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. If his wife is happy and they are at baseball games, that really means a lot. Also means he believes we can win here.

[Cowbell]

With the increasing physicality the game is allowing, we better find some bodies or we're going to get bounced off the floor.

Yeah we are nothing without a legit big

[StarkVegasSteve]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. If his wife is happy and they are at baseball games, that really means a lot. Also means he believes we can win here.

It honestly shocked me a bit to hear her speak of Starkville. Absolutely loves it. Very encouraging to hear. They are very happy here.

[sandjunky]

It honestly shocked me a bit to hear her speak of Starkville. Absolutely loves it. Very encouraging to hear. They are very happy here.
If they love Starkville, they will absolutely love Homewood



















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