Basketball Transfer Portal Thread

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well.....starting this a little earlier than I wanted to. We desperately need a true PG. Not a scoring PG. A guy who can run the offense and let Hubbard roam. We also need some sort of post player. A couple of 3 and D guys would be nice too but everyone who comes to State forgets either the 3, the D, or both so I imagine that ship has sailed. Bolded guys are officially in the portal.

Possible Targets:

Dedan Thomas-UNLV-PG
Josh Dix-Iowa-SG
Gabe Cupps-PG-Indiana
Adam Njie-PG-Iona
Bryce Hopkins-PF-Providence
Lawson Lovering-C-Utah
Nick Davidson-C-Nevada
Malik Reneau-PF-Indiana
Quimari Peterson-PG-ETSU
Pryce Sandfort-SF-Iowa
Chase Forte-PG-South Dakota St
Wes Enis-PG-Lincoln Memorial(D2)
Jaden Henley-SF-UNLV
Themus Fulks-Milwaukee
Tyler Lundblade-SG-Belmont
Alex Chaikin-SG-Lafayette
Carmelo Pacheko-SG-Mt. St. Mary's
DJ Richards-McNeese St
Kam Craft-SG-Miami(OH)
Joe Nugent-SF-Holy Cross
Moe Odum-PG-Pepperdine
Trevan Leonhardt-PG-Utah Valley
Sean Newman Jr.-PG-La Tech
Treysen Eaglestaff-SG-North Dakota


Departures:

Cam Matthews
Claudell Harris
RJ Melendez
Kanye Clary-transfer
Michael Nwoko-transfer to LSU
Martavious Russell-transfer
Adrian Myers-transfer
Jeremy Foumena-transfer
Riley Kugel-transfer

Possible Departures:

Keshawn Murphy
Del'Quan Warren

[msstate7]

Murphy would be a huge blow

[StarkVegasSteve]

Murphy would be a huge blow

He'll test the waters out of all likelihood. I do expect him to come back but I expect that at the very least, he tests the NBA waters.

[Tater]

PORTAL ANNOUNCEMENT

i have transferred from putting my heart into the men's team to the women's team

[Tripp McNeely]

Well.....starting this a little earlier than I wanted to. We desperately need a true PG. Not a scoring PG. A guy who can run the offense and let Hubbard roam. We also need some sort of post player. A couple of 3 and D guys would be nice too but everyone who comes to State forgets either the 3, the D, or both so I imagine that ship has sailed. Bolded guys are officially in the portal.

Possible Targets:

Dedan Thomas-UNLV-PG
Josh Dix-Iowa-SG
Gabe Cupps-PG-Indiana
Adam Njie-PG-Iona
Bryce Hopkins-PF-Providence
Lawson Lovering-C-Utah
Nick Davidson-C-Nevada

Departures:

Cam Matthews
Claudell Harris
RJ Melendez

Likely Departures:

Kanye Clary
Adrian Myers
Jeremy Foumena

Fixed it for ya...I don't think that we lose any of those other guys.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Fixed it for ya...I don't think that we lose any of those other guys.

Completely forgot about Foumena. Yea we'll definitely lose Clary. Also didn't know Adrian Myers was still on the team.

[maroonmania]

Completely forgot about Foumena. Yea we'll definitely lose Clary. Also didn't know Adrian Myers was still on the team.

I hope we didn't actually pay any NIL to Clary. If so money down the rathole.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I hope we didn't actually pay any NIL to Clary. If so money down the rathole.

We did. Now we didn't pay it all thankfully because our NIL payments are monthly so we did recoup some of that money. I also know our basketball NILs are mostly backloaded because of when the season is. Football guys are front loaded and basketball and baseball are more back loaded I believe. I could've gotten that completely backwards though.

[Coach34]

I don’t expect Murphy to return. I’m hopeful tho.

[RezDog7]

Murphy would be a huge blow
Huge blow to what, the warm seat and 45 minutes on the bench?

[BankerDog]

Until our fans and alumni get their heads out of sand in regards to NIL-we will continue to have to take the head cases because that?s what we have budgeted for.
You pay for what you get. It?s beyond sad Ole Miss has passed us in the Big 3 and women?s basketball even.

It?s time for Selmon to really step it up another gear and get everyone pulling in same direction. And there is going to be push back to that for obvious reasons.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Until our fans and alumni get their heads out of sand in regards to NIL-we will continue to have to take the head cases because that?s what we have budgeted for.
You pay for what you get. It?s beyond sad Ole Miss has passed us in the Big 3 and women?s basketball even.

It?s time for Selmon to really step it up another gear and get everyone pulling in same direction. And there is going to be push back to that for obvious reasons.

Well we basically have two guys heading up basketball NIL. We need about 10 more.

[HoopsDawg]

Until our fans and alumni get their heads out of sand in regards to NIL-we will continue to have to take the head cases because that?s what we have budgeted for.
You pay for what you get. It?s beyond sad Ole Miss has passed us in the Big 3 and women?s basketball even.

It?s time for Selmon to really step it up another gear and get everyone pulling in same direction. And there is going to be push back to that for obvious reasons.

I heard our hoops NIL is very healthy

[StarkVegasSteve]

I heard our hoops NIL is very healthy

Getting Oscar back in the fold was HUGE. We need about 3 more Oscar's

[Coursesuper]

Well we basically have two guys heading up basketball NIL. We need about 10 more.

One of them can afford all of it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

One of them can afford all of it.

Both of them can probably afford all of it. We just need about 10 more like the second one. We don't have many other alums like the first, especially ones that love basketball as much as he does.

[BankerDog]

Well we basically have two guys heading up basketball NIL. We need about 10 more.

Those two up enough for this portal class and to keep three big players. One personally had a hand in keeping Cam and Key.

[BankerDog]

I heard our hoops NIL is very healthy

It?s not bad-but we need to evaluate it better.

[msstate7]

OM winning today sucks, but I bet it helps us. I'm crazy enough to think the real money guys behind basketball help Jans even more now. OM putting pressure on us to raise our level.

[msstate7]

It?s not bad-but we need to evaluate it better.

After this season, I have a feeling Jans will prioritize defense. We going aTm style

[msstate7]

One of them can afford all of it.

Let them get a couple studs, and us poors pool enough to get some solid role players

[parabrave]

Murphy would be a huge blow

Murphy got to test the waters. Think he will be back somewhere in the NCAA but maybe not here. Face it guys we don't develop players.

[msstate7]

Murphy got to test the waters. Think he will be back somewhere in the NCAA but maybe not here. Face it guys we don't develop players.

Weird you said we don't develop players while taking about Murphy. We absolutely developed him from just raw, raw talent. I hope we get another offseason to polish him up more.

[parabrave]

2 main priorities should be a PG, over 6ft, and a big bodied center or PF. Plus get a clutch shooter because Hubb isn't it or is afraid to "be Kobe:".

[Saltydog]

Let's just go do what Drake did and go get 4 or 5 DII players. Seems to be working for them. At least they got past the first round.

[Saltydog]

Throw the bank at Augustas Marciulionis from Saint Mary's. Guy is a Shane Power clone. Yeah, yeah I know, we dont' have a chance but that guy is damn good, just like his Dad.

[R2Dawg]

Let's just go do what Drake did and go get 4 or 5 DII players. Seems to be working for them. At least they got past the first round.

Problem is we don't have Drake coaching.

[Saltydog]

Problem is we don't have Drake coaching.

Jans is the greatest, just ask our fans. You know, we've been to 3 straight NCAA tournaments. You obviously didn't get the memo.

[msstate7]

Jans is the greatest, just ask our fans. You know, we've been to 3 straight NCAA tournaments. You obviously didn't get the memo.

Jans is a damn good coach. We're lucky to have him. Remember when you used to cry about Mullen too? So much better off, eh?

[EdwardDrayton]

Problem is we don't have Drake coaching.

^^^^^^^^

[Goldendawg]

Hubbard took 503 shots during the season, 208 more than the next player, Murphy, (Hail State Individual Stats). What good offensive player, especially a guard wants to play in that offense? Next year will be the same if the offense is centered around him again. A balanced offense must be achieved. He can't help being 5' 10" or so, but is also a liability on defense as his man is most always taller than him, but constantly blowing by him is the real concern.

[BigDawg81]

Murphy definitely got developed from last year

[BigDawg81]

Well.....starting this a little earlier than I wanted to. We desperately need a true PG. Not a scoring PG. A guy who can run the offense and let Hubbard roam. We also need some sort of post player. A couple of 3 and D guys would be nice too but everyone who comes to State forgets either the 3, the D, or both so I imagine that ship has sailed. Bolded guys are officially in the portal.

Possible Targets:

Dedan Thomas-UNLV-PG
Josh Dix-Iowa-SG
Gabe Cupps-PG-Indiana
Adam Njie-PG-Iona
Bryce Hopkins-PF-Providence
Lawson Lovering-C-Utah
Nick Davidson-C-Nevada

Departures:

Cam Matthews
Claudell Harris
RJ Melendez

Possible Departures:

Riley Kugel
Keshawn Murphy
Del'Quan Warren
Kanye Clary
Jeremy Foumena
Adrian Myers
Looking at Iowa?s roster, they have a Seydou Traore.
So let me get this straight. Traore plays basketball for Iowa and plays football for Mississippi State? Cool

[StarkVegasSteve]

It was widely known but Rosebowl did officially that Clary is expected to enter the portal on Monday. We have to start knowing what we are getting and being up front with these kids. We cannot afford to get another Clary or another Andrew Taylor type player. That's two years in a row we've struck on something we needed and the kid wasn't even in the program by SEC play.


On the PG front. I would look for us to be major players with Themus Fulks and Wes Enis. Enis is a D2 kid and I know we're already in talks with him about setting up a visit. Fulks is a guy we're in contact with but I don't know to the extent. He's the type of player we need. He's not going to be a scoring PG, but he's 20th in the country in assists and his assist to TO ratio is 2:1.

I've also added a few names to the list of guys I expect will jump into the portal in the next week or so.

[tcdog70]

We played most of the year with no point guard. You can’t win without a good point guard. We had Cam and Kugel trying to be a point guard.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We played most of the year with no point guard. You can’t win without a good point guard. We had Cam and Kugel trying to be a point guard.

Yea and that's an issue and you can tell we tried to remedy that with Clary. Just didn't work out. And a lot of people will just say teach Josh how to be a PG, but I think that changes the way he plays and I worry that would affect his entire game. I think it did in the first part of conference when he was struggling. It was almost paralysis by analysis. He just started playing like Josh again in the Bama game.

[basedog]

Yea and that's an issue and you can tell we tried to remedy that with Clary. Just didn't work out. And a lot of people will just say teach Josh how to be a PG, but I think that changes the way he plays and I worry that would affect his entire game. I think it did in the first part of conference when he was struggling. It was almost paralysis by analysis. He just started playing like Josh again in the Bama game.

Josh is not a point guard. It's a totally different position than shooting guard. It hurt Josh's game overall.
Btw he is our MVP, regardless of his defense.

[cheewgumm]

Hubbard should just transfer to Kentucky.

He?d make a fortune and our fans would be happier.

We could get a solid defender.

Who needs a great scorer when we can get a taller guy who scores 6 a game but defends well.

[R2Dawg]

Jans is a damn good coach. We're lucky to have him. Remember when you used to cry about Mullen too? So much better off, eh?

Jans is a good coach; Howland was a good coach. And I'm glad both came to MSU; we can and have done worse. But like Mullen after many years, we saw the potential to take next steps but Mullen just couldn't/wouldn't do it.

Jans is still early; he at least compromised on his D first and made an attempt to find balance.

Maybe Jans can adapt and show us he is great but so far he is just a good coach.

[maroonmania]

In today's basketball, you need a big guy underneath that can defend without a lot of help and a at least 3 guys that are knock down 3 point shooters in your lineup most of the time. Trying to double team in the post leading to wide open 3 pointers by the opposition won't work in today's game unless you have some incredible close out defenders which are very rare. We have got to rethink who we go after in the portal and our approach to defense.

[cheewgumm]

In today's basketball, you need a big guy underneath that can defend without a lot of help and a at least 3 guys that are knock down 3 point shooters in your lineup most of the time. Trying to double team in the post leading to wide open 3 pointers by the opposition won't work in today's game unless you have some incredible close out defenders which are very rare. We have got to rethink who we go after in the portal and our approach to defense.

This!

Agree. We need an eraser down low.

Problem is I?m sure they are in high demand.

But you are right.

[Offshore Dawg]

All of these are good but people in hell want ice water too.

[cheewgumm]

All of these are good but people in hell want ice water too.

True but it is importantly to define the direction you need to go.

[Saltydog]

Zakai Zeigler (5'9") made the defensive all SEC team 4 times and was the defensive player of the year twice. Josh has a couple of inches on him so it's not his size that's preventing him from being effective on the defensive end. I don't think he's lazy but yeah he needs to get better.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hubbard should just transfer to Kentucky.

He?d make a fortune and our fans would be happier.

We could get a solid defender.

Who needs a great scorer when we can get a taller guy who scores 6 a game but defends well.

The scary thing is how many of our fans would agree with you. That is an indictment on our fanbase tbh.

[EdwardDrayton]

Zakai Zeigler (5'9") made the defensive all SEC team 4 times and was the defensive player of the year twice. Josh has a couple of inches on him so it's not his size that's preventing him from being effective on the defensive end. I don't think he's lazy but yeah he needs to get better.

His size hurts him defensively and also on his drives to the rim. And he does not give the same effort on defense. He displays an explosive quickness on his drives to the basket. He does not on defense.

[cheewgumm]

His size hurts him defensively and also on his drives to the rim. And he does not give the same effort on defense. He displays an explosive quickness on his drives to the basket. He does not on defense.

His back is probably hurting from carrying our offense.

[StarkVegasSteve]

After watching the games today we need to prioritize two things:

1. A PG
2. A true C


Never thought I would say the second one but you just cannot win in college basketball without a true big.

[BigDawg81]

After watching the games today we need to prioritize two things:

1. A PG
2. A true C


Never thought I would say the second one but you just cannot win in college basketball without a true big.
Luckily, we have one in route but he will be a Freshman and will need time to adjust.

[Tater]

After watching the games today we need to prioritize two things:

1. A PG
2. A true C


Never thought I would say the second one but you just cannot win in college basketball without a true big.

May as well just go all the way with editing your first post into including a depth chart of sorts. Imo you need the following:

Talented Scorer - Retain Hubbard
True Point Guard -
Backup Point Guard - Warren?
3&D Wing #1 -
3&D Wing #2 - Retain Kugel (yes he runs more point but he's not good enough at it. He can be a 3&D guy tho)
3&D Wing #3 -
3&D Wing #4 - Put Shawn Jones in the Brook Lopez 3 point camp and hope he hits half his open corner or wing 3s.
Post Scorer who is a bucket - Retain Murphy and/or Nwoko and hope they take another leap
7 footer who doesn't have a major "weakness" -
Backup defensive specialist big -

I see minimum 5 holes to be filled. IMO order of priority is this:

Keep Hubbard
Get 3&D Wing #1
Retain Murphy
Get true point
Retain Nwoko
Get 7 footer
Retain Kugel
Get 3&D #3
Get defensive big
Teach Shawn Jones how to shoot
Keep Warren

That's the checklist to becoming an elite team. It's a tall order and looks much simpler said than done.

[Cooterpoot]

Jans has been horrible in the portal. Absolutely awful! I wouldn't bring back anyone other than the two bigs an Hubbard at most. We don't need to run it back again.

[BankerDog]

May as well just go all the way with editing your first post into including a depth chart of sorts. Imo you need the following:

Talented Scorer - Retain Hubbard
True Point Guard -
Backup Point Guard - Warren?
3&D Wing #1 -
3&D Wing #2 - Retain Kugel (yes he runs more point but he's not good enough at it. He can be a 3&D guy tho)
3&D Wing #3 -
3&D Wing #4 - Put Shawn Jones in the Brook Lopez 3 point camp and hope he hits half his open corner or wing 3s.
Post Scorer who is a bucket - Retain Murphy and/or Nwoko and hope they take another leap
7 footer who doesn't have a major "weakness" -
Backup defensive specialist big -

I see minimum 5 holes to be filled. IMO order of priority is this:

Keep Hubbard
Get 3&D Wing #1
Retain Murphy
Get true point
Retain Nwoko
Get 7 footer
Retain Kugel
Get 3&D #3
Get defensive big
Teach Shawn Jones how to shoot
Keep Warren

That's the checklist to becoming an elite team. It's a tall order and looks much simpler said than done.

Finishing games out would have made us elite this year. We didn?t finish games out. We lost our mojo. That?s it.

[Tater]

Finishing games out would have made us elite this year. We didn?t finish games out. We lost our mojo. That?s it.

Things you need to finish games out:

Hit FTs
Hit Open 3s
Have multiple "bucket" guys on O that can stop a scoring run.

The roster I'm envisioning answers all 3 of those things. Really we just need to make open corner 3s. So much goes different for us this year if we're 10% more accurate on open 3s.

[CadaverDawg]

Why is everyone so sure Hubbard returns? Anybody can match what we offer, and he probably wants to win, which we can't. I have a feeling he may give us the ole Van Buren treatment in a few weeks, but we'll see.

[Tater]

Why is everyone so sure Hubbard returns? Anybody can match what we offer, and he probably wants to win, which we can't. I have a feeling he may give us the ole Van Buren treatment in a few weeks, but we'll see.

I'm not but him staying last year and him showing improvement under Jans this year into a complete star even after struggling with a sophomore slump makes me have more hope. Hes priority n?mero uno and we should build a team to his strengths. If he leaves then we might as well get a full makeover as a team imo.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why is everyone so sure Hubbard returns? Anybody can match what we offer, and he probably wants to win, which we can't. I have a feeling he may give us the ole Van Buren treatment in a few weeks, but we'll see.

He will be here next year.

[BankerDog]

Things you need to finish games out:

Hit FTs
Hit Open 3s
Have multiple "bucket" guys on O that can stop a scoring run.

The roster I'm envisioning answers all 3 of those things. Really we just need to make open corner 3s. So much goes different for us this year if we're 10% more accurate on open 3s.

Better hope our two NIL guys are ready to spend up to $6MM and the rest of our NIL can make up the other $2MM.

Because you?re asking to build the dang dream team.

[BankerDog]

Why is everyone so sure Hubbard returns? Anybody can match what we offer, and he probably wants to win, which we can't. I have a feeling he may give us the ole Van Buren treatment in a few weeks, but we'll see.

We have him a multi year deal and it?s very good. Actually hard to believe for a 5?10 volume shooter. But our NIL guys who made this deal also put in a buyout in it as well.

And we are winning-we just aren?t finishing out our wins. Kanye Cleary changes the whole make up of this team.

[NCMSTFAN]

Kanye Clary entered the portal today.. which isn't a surprise

[Johnson85]

I don?t expect Murphy to return. I?m hopeful tho.

You think we can't match NIL? Or does he just want to leave? Or you think he's going overseas?

[civildawg]

Kanye Clary entered the portal today.. which isn't a surprise


So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?

[StarkVegasSteve]

So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?

There's two schools of thought and I've heard both.

1. He was injured and he thought it was more serious than it was and didn't want to come back even when our doctors cleared him so he left the team.

2. He was injured and tried to come back too quickly, even though we told him not to, and reinjured it and left the team.


The only thing for certain is that he DID have an injury and he and the medical staff had a disagreement on the diagnosis.

[NCMSTFAN]

So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?

Good question and I wish I knew the reasons. We definitely needed him this year too. I have a feeling we will see some other departures as well.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Good question and I wish I knew the reasons. We definitely needed him this year too. I have a feeling we will see some other departures as well.

I think we see 2-4 more. Could be as little as just Myers and Foumena and could be as many as those two, Kugel, Warren, and Murphy.

[civildawg]

I don't want kugel back honestly

[BankerDog]

So we were lied to about it being an injury? What the heck happened? He was playing well and getting good playing time. Was he just a head case?

He got hurt, realized during rehab that he was vital to team and tried to renegotiate his NIL package. That?s it.

Him deciding that changed the whole trajectory of our season. He was the difference maker. Jans rode him early in the season and he was the reason we clicked.

[Tater]

Better hope our two NIL guys are ready to spend up to $6MM and the rest of our NIL can make up the other $2MM.

Because you?re asking to build the dang dream team.

Correct. I didn't sugar coat that this is a tall ask.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't want kugel back honestly

Why don't you want him back? I'm genuinely curious because the opinions on this kid are all over the place. At the end of the day he gave us exactly what we hoped for when we brought him in. 8-12 pts a game most nights and solid defense.

[cheewgumm]

Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.

We act like it was the missing piece.

Totally wrong imo.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.

We act like it was the missing piece.

Totally wrong imo.

He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.

[KB21]

He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.

Here's the elephant in the room. When your best player is a 5'10" scoring guard who is better at coming off screens on the catch than he is at scoring off the bounce, it's hard to build a team around that player.

[HoopsDawg]

He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.

You can't play 2 guys in the backcourt that are 6'0 and under. You also shouldn't have 2 ball dominant guards in the same backcourt. Clary was always a bad fit. Waste of NIL.

[msstate7]

Does Trayvon mark have another year? I would love a big guard that can defend and shoot

[StarkVegasSteve]

Does Trayvon mark have another year? I would love a big guard that can defend and shoot

I'm 99% sure he doesn't have another year but even he does, he won't be coming here.

[cheewgumm]

He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.

He was not making that big of a difference that I saw .

Also, everyone one here complains constantly that Hubbard is hurting us guarding the three. Adding another 5?10 guy doesn?t help that.

[msstate7]

You can't play 2 guys in the backcourt that are 6'0 and under. You also shouldn't have 2 ball dominant guards in the same backcourt. Clary was always a bad fit. Waste of NIL.

I guess 6'1" is ok since OM is in the sweet 16

[gtowndawg]

Clary was not nearly as good as our fans think he was.

We act like it was the missing piece.

Totally wrong imo.

I mean we were clearly better with him than without. He wasn't Chris Paul or anything but we got worse when he bailed.

[gtowndawg]

3&D Wing #4 - Put Shawn Jones in the Brook Lopez 3 point camp and hope he hits half his open corner or wing 3s.

Brother, we didn't have anyone even hit 35% from 3, much less 50% from 3.

[HoopsDawg]

I mean we were clearly better with him than without. He wasn't Chris Paul or anything but we got worse when he bailed.

Disagree. We lost to Butler with him. Then when on a nice run. With Hubbard in the backcourt, the other guard needs to be elite defensively.

[EdwardDrayton]

He was a true PG for a team that didn't have one.

^^^^^^^

[EdwardDrayton]

There's two schools of thought and I've heard both.

1. He was injured and he thought it was more serious than it was and didn't want to come back even when our doctors cleared him so he left the team.

2. He was injured and tried to come back too quickly, even though we told him not to, and reinjured it and left the team.


The only thing for certain is that he DID have an injury and he and the medical staff had a disagreement on the diagnosis.


Maybe he was thinking medical redshirt? Thinking he did not play in too many games. But can you get one if you leave the team?

[38843dawg]

Maybe he was thinking medical redshirt? Thinking he did not play in too many games. But can you get one if you leave the team?

We cleared him to play and he didn?t feel like he was ready (or his ?doctors?/handlers) and he just left. Nothing more nothing less. We took a gamble on a kid that had issues in the past and got burned.

[38843dawg]

As of RIGHT NOW we got three coming back:

Jones
Hubbard
Murphy

Another SEC team is making a big push for Nwoko and has offered him a nice deal.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As of RIGHT NOW we got three coming back:

Jones
Hubbard
Murphy

Another SEC team is making a big push for Nwoko and has offered him a nice deal.

I mean you can replace 6 pts and 5 rebounds pretty easily. Nwoko is a nice piece but he still has a lot of development to do.

[msstate7]

I mean you can replace 6 pts and 5 rebounds pretty easily. Nwoko is a nice piece but he still has a lot of development to do.

I'd like that development to be here. Murphy returning could make that difficult

ETA... if it's one or the other, I choose Murphy

[msstate7]

As of RIGHT NOW we got three coming back:

Jones
Hubbard
Murphy

Another SEC team is making a big push for Nwoko and has offered him a nice deal.

I'd like Warren back. Small deal with no promises of playing time. I think he has potential

[Tater]

Brother, we didn't have anyone even hit 35% from 3, much less 50% from 3.

I said half the open ones lmao.

Literally Shawn Jones and Riley Kugel should only be shooting 3s this offseason and doing nothing else if they have any hope of making the league after next year. Catch and shoot rhythm all day long.

[Tater]

I'd like that development to be here. Murphy returning could make that difficult

ETA... if it's one or the other, I choose Murphy

Murphy this year was a worse version of Tolu last year. Nwoko this year was a worse version of Murphy last year. Agree I'd like another year of Murphy - I really would love him and Hubbard to figure out the PnR. That duo should be damn near unstoppable next year.

[R2Dawg]

I see we got the latest Miss Gatoraid player of the year so nice haul on HS talent.

[Tater]

I see we got the latest Miss Gatoraid player of the year so nice haul on HS talent.

He's raw but hopefully can give us good defensive presence.

Scorer - Hubbard
Point -
Backup Point - Warren*
3&D #1 -
3&D #2 - Kugel*
3&D #3 -
3&D #4 - Jones
Post Bucket - Murphy/Nwoko*
7 footer with no major weakness -
Backup Defensive Specialist Big - JDF

[CaptainObvious]

I see we got the latest Miss Gatoraid player of the year so nice haul on HS talent.

Wasn't Eric Paymon from Raymond last years' POY for Mississippi? 4 star 6'9" 245# who redshirted this year? I mean, surely Jans didn't miss on him.

[Pancho]

can Paymon be expected to kinda take Cam Matthews place next season? What is expected from Bartlett, Fleming, Grace and Paul next year?

[gtowndawg]

Wasn't Eric Paymon from Raymond last years' POY for Mississippi? 4 star 6'9" 245# who redshirted this year? I mean, surely Jans didn't miss on him.

That's the role I see him filling.

[R2Dawg]

Wasn't Eric Paymon from Raymond last years' POY for Mississippi? 4 star 6'9" 245# who redshirted this year? I mean, surely Jans didn't miss on him.

Honestly how can you miss so bad on 2 Gatoraid player of year type players? They got to be good enough to help you compete?

[Tater]

Honestly how can you miss so bad on 2 Gatoraid player of year type players? They got to be good enough to help you compete?

I mean if he couldn't get on the court over Guy Chol then I'm assuming it's a weight room thing. Also like with the NBA, sometimes it's better to get the role player guys than the team carrier guys.

Jimmer Fredette could carry in college. Danny Green was miles better in NBA. Flip their college careers and UNC doesn't win that Natty / Danny Green doesn't carry BYU anywhere in the tourney.

We need more Danny Green types. Easier said than done.

It's like how Hubbard is the miles better player than Kugel but Kugel has way better pro trajectory.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will start updating later today the players we have been in contact with and adding them to the list. Just a couple to keep an eye on right now.

Jaylen Sellers-G-UCF
Ja’Borri McGhee-G-UAB

Sellers is in the portal. I would expect McGhee in within the next couple of days.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean if he couldn't get on the court over Guy Chol then I'm assuming it's a weight room thing. Also like with the NBA, sometimes it's better to get the role player guys than the team carrier guys.

Jimmer Fredette could carry in college. Danny Green was miles better in NBA. Flip their college careers and UNC doesn't win that Natty / Danny Green doesn't carry BYU anywhere in the tourney.

We need more Danny Green types. Easier said than done.

It's like how Hubbard is the miles better player than Kugel but Kugel has way better pro trajectory.

Kugel could be a quintessential 3 and D guy if he would tailor his game to that. He is still trying to operate as a primary option instead of a 3 and D type player. And the thing is, Kugel would be our first ACTUAL 3 and D guy. We tried to make Melendez and Jeffries that but they just are not those types of players. If Kugel can accept that role he can make a difference for us and make himself some really money in the NBA because that is what he will be in the NBA

[Goldendawg]

I can see letting Clary finish the semester in the classroom (or in the Templeton Center with tutors or online, as they are "student athletes", LOL), but did he continue to sit on the bench during games and worse than that continue to collect NIL? Taylor, Whitmore, and now Clary, do we have a big "S" for sucker on our coaches' foreheads?

[msstate7]

I will start updating later today the players we have been in contact with and adding them to the list. Just a couple to keep an eye on right now.

Jaylen Sellers-G-UCF
Ja’Borri McGhee-G-UAB

Sellers is in the portal. I would expect McGhee in within the next couple of days.

Why did sellers only play 3 games?

[Goldendawg]

Kugel could be a quintessential 3 and D guy if he would tailor his game to that. He is still trying to operate as a primary option instead of a 3 and D type player. And the thing is, Kugel would be our first ACTUAL 3 and D guy. We tried to make Melendez and Jeffries that but they just are not those types of players. If Kugel can accept that role he can make a difference for us and make himself some really money in the NBA because that is what he will be in the NBA

He is definitely not a point guard (but after the Clary debacle and Warren not ready, Jans had no options), and a below average ball handler and a very poor passer. Will not sniff NBA, but will make $ somewhere overseas.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Michael Nwoko officially in the portal.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why did sellers only play 3 games?

Got injured so we need to do our due diligence on him.

[NCMSTFAN]

Michael Nwoko officially in the portal.

I actually like how he was coming along but this isn't a huge loss, he can be replaced.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I actually like how he was coming along but this isn't a huge loss, he can be replaced.

We can replace 5-7 minutes at the beginning of the game. We are already on a portal post guy as we have set up a zoom with Gabe Dynes of Youngstown St. 7-3 Center.

[HoopsDawg]

I actually like how he was coming along but this isn't a huge loss, he can be replaced.

The do not contact is hilarious. Dead giveaway of tampering.

[msstate7]

The do not contact is hilarious. Dead giveaway of tampering.

Where's he headed?

[38843dawg]

Where's he headed?

LSU

[msstate7]

LSU

Good pick up for lsu. I think he will be a good player. I prefer Murphy though.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The do not contact is hilarious. Dead giveaway of tampering.

Everyone does it. That tag is just for kids who don't want to talk to programs. They want to speak with them through the agents.

Every last one of these kids has a pretty good idea where they're going when they enter. Most have it down to 3 schools by the time they officially enter. Some enjoy the visit portion, generally it's the G5 or lower level guys who didn't get to experience it, but most just prefer to let the agents handle everything and they are just told who will meet the price and that's how the final decision is made

[gtowndawg]

LSU

I don't know where but I read he was headed to an SEC school so this could be correct.

[38843dawg]

I don't know where but I read he was headed to an SEC school so this could be correct.

Probably earlier in the thread, I mentioned it a day or two ago. Something could change but they?ve offered him a very nice deal and got him in the portal. It?s been in the works for a while now, never say never though if another team tries to come in last minute.

The staff may keep Foumena on now to help provide some depth for down low. I wouldn?t expect his usage to change much though.

[CaptainObvious]

Hopefully we can sign Josh Dix and Themus Fulks! That would be fun on TV and for other teams student sections!

[EdwardDrayton]

Everyone does it. That tag is just for kids who don't want to talk to programs. They want to speak with them through the agents.

Every last one of these kids has a pretty good idea where they're going when they enter. Most have it down to 3 schools by the time they officially enter. Some enjoy the visit portion, generally it's the G5 or lower level guys who didn't get to experience it, but most just prefer to let the agents handle everything and they are just told who will meet the price and that's how the final decision is made

So that sparks a thought. We've always heard that roughly 40% of those who enter the portal never land at a new school. But intuitively it's likely a much lower percentage for SEC players? Meaning a much higher percentage are sought after and actually have a pretty good idea where they'll land. Has anybody seen an actual figure for the SEC?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Probably earlier in the thread, I mentioned it a day or two ago. Something could change but they?ve offered him a very nice deal and got him in the portal. It?s been in the works for a while now, never say never though if another team tries to come in last minute.

The staff may keep Foumena on now to help provide some depth for down low. I wouldn?t expect his usage to change much though.

LSU will be a big spender in NIL this year. This is going to be Matt McMahon's prove it year and they are going to spend large to see if he can get it done. I highly doubt it.

[gtowndawg]

LSU will be a big spender in NIL this year. This is going to be Matt McMahon's prove it year and they are going to spend large to see if he can get it done. I highly doubt it.

Fingers crossed it's our big spending year too!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Fingers crossed it's our big spending year too!

Well but they have a big 3 of Todd, Gordon McKernan, and Dudley Debosier funding most of their stuff. We don't have a big 3 like that for any sport. Especially Todd.

We're going to spend big, but I don't think it'll be to that level.

[Commercecomet24]

It?s not bad-but we need to evaluate it better.

Yeah this is the 100% correct answer.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Martavious Russell officially in the portal. I would expect we see 1-2 more join before the end of the weekend.

[3dawgnight15]

MJ flashed some potential. Interested to see where he ends up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

MJ flashed some potential. Interested to see where he ends up.

My guess is mid major. Somewhere like Samford, UNA, or Lipscomb.

[NCMSTFAN]

My guess is mid major. Somewhere like Samford, UNA, or Lipscomb.

He has potential, he is one of those guys that will go to a school like Mcnesse or UAB and average 15 ppg.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would expect that we will start seeing some visitors this week. It seems like we passed on Jaylin Sellers.

And for those wanting Kugel gone, I would expect that he is back as of now. Could change, but I would think he'd already be in the portal if he was coming back.

[msstate7]

I would expect that we will start seeing some visitors this week. It seems like we passed on Jaylin Sellers.

And for those wanting Kugel gone, I would expect that he is back as of now. Could change, but I would think he'd already be in the portal if he was coming back.

I'd love kugel back but not as a primary ball handler

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nwoko to LSU as expected. They threw a big NIL offer his way.

[HoopsDawg]

I'd love kugel back but not as a primary ball handler

Goodman saying 2.5 to 3 million for a top transfer. Geez!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Goodman saying 2.5 to 3 million for a top transfer. Geez!!!

Pretty close. The Eaglestaff kid got over a million to go to USCe and he's from North Dakota.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Jeremy Foumena into the portal.

Unless we're really confident about Chol or Tee Bartlett, we'll be bringing two post players.

[NCMSTFAN]

Jeremy Foumena into the portal.

Unless we're really confident about Chol or Tee Bartlett, we'll be bringing two post players.

Tee Bartlett is going to be a good big for us. He is more of a traditional wide body big that Jans normally likes. He will only be a Freshman though so I expect us to get another big or two out of the portal, especially with Foemana and Nwoko leaving

[NCMSTFAN]

I would expect that we will start seeing some visitors this week. It seems like we passed on Jaylin Sellers.

And for those wanting Kugel gone, I would expect that he is back as of now. Could change, but I would think he'd already be in the portal if he was coming back.

I hope to keep Kugel, the kid can play. He was just too inconsistent but he can work on that in the off season

[StarkVegasSteve]

I hope to keep Kugel, the kid can play. He was just too inconsistent but he can work on that in the off season

If we can just make him strictly a 3 and D guy and not make him the primary ballhandler I think it would help a lot. He played his best this year when he didn't have to try and be a facilitator and could just be that 3 and D slasher type.

[NCMSTFAN]

If we can just make him strictly a 3 and D guy and not make him the primary ballhandler I think it would help a lot. He played his best this year when he didn't have to try and be a facilitator and could just be that 3 and D slasher type.

I agree, that's why it's so important for Jans to go get a true PG, we desperately needed one this year. Kugel was forced to play PG but thats not his natural position. Hubbard is more of 2 gaurd and Warren is still learning. We have to go find a true PG

[KB21]

Pretty close. The Eaglestaff kid got over a million to go to USCe and he's from North Dakota.

Buyer beware on that guy. Scoring numbers are what people see, but he finished the season with a -2.6 DBPM and shot only 51% at the rim.

[KB21]

I agree, that's why it's so important for Jans to go get a true PG, we desperately needed one this year. Kugel was forced to play PG but thats not his natural position. Hubbard is more of 2 gaurd and Warren is still learning. We have to go find a true PG

It has to be one with size as well to offset Hubbard's lack of size.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Buyer beware on that guy. Scoring numbers are what people see, but he finished the season with a -2.6 DBPM and shot only 51% at the rim.

He got paid on two games. The Bama game and the SD State game in their conference tournament.

[EdwardDrayton]

We have to accept these NIL numbers will continue to escalate as long as we're in an essentially free market.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We have to accept these NIL numbers will continue to escalate as long as we're in an essentially free market.

I've wondered if rev share will cause the numbers to go down a bit, but I doubt it. I think the only thing to slow it down is to institute a salary cap. And the moment they do that, they'll be sued to oblivion and lose.

[EdwardDrayton]

I've wondered if rev share will cause the numbers to go down a bit, but I doubt it. I think the only thing to slow it down is to institute a salary cap. And the moment they do that, they'll be sued to oblivion and lose.

Unfortunately likely.

[BigDawg81]

Bryce Lindsay from James Madison is a name to watch. 6?3 guard that averages 13.4 ppg and 2.2 ast 40% from 3. Former Texas A&M player.

[38843dawg]

Jeremy Foumena into the portal.

Unless we're really confident about Chol or Tee Bartlett, we'll be bringing two post players.

Foumena likely to another SEC school. They?ve been on him over a week or two now.

[38843dawg]

We tried to get Foumena to stay for depth, but he got a better offer.

[HoopsDawg]

We tried to get Foumena to stay for depth, but he got a better offer.

Who are we on?

[NCMSTFAN]

Foumena likely to another SEC school. They?ve been on him over a week or two now.

Can't blame him for leaving. Jans did nothing with him

[msstate7]

Can't blame him for leaving. Jans did nothing with him

I thought Jans handled our bigs well this season. Wonder what sec team wants a totally unproven guy.

[NCMSTFAN]

I thought Jans handled our bigs well this season. Wonder what sec team wants a totally unproven guy.

I'm not saying he deserved more playing time but he was barely used so I can understand wanting to leave. He has good size, someone will take a shot on him. Not sure if it will be an SEC team though

[38843dawg]

As of RIGHT NOW we got three coming back:

Jones
Hubbard
Murphy

Another SEC team is making a big push for Nwoko and has offered him a nice deal.

As expected kugel in the portal also.

[NCMSTFAN]

As expected kugel in the portal also.

I kind of figured this one. I think Murphy either test the NBA waters or leaves also.

[msstate7]

As expected kugel in the portal also.

He's one I think we might can get a deal with. He destroyed his value last season

[gtowndawg]

Just saw Indiana (Indiana!) has nobody currently on their roster. Zero. None.

[38843dawg]

I kind of figured this one. I think Murphy either test the NBA waters or leaves also.

He very well may test the waters but he will be back. He?s going to get paid.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He's one I think we might can get a deal with. He destroyed his value last season

There is a way back for him. Similar to Murpy last year. He is seeing what his value is and kudos to him for doing that.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He very well may test the waters but he will be back. He?s going to get paid.

Murphy will be back. Very close to Oscar and his family.

[38843dawg]

He's one I think we might can get a deal with. He destroyed his value last season

His issue isn?t so much his value, (of course his perception is warped of what his value is some) but the bigger issue is the relationship between him and the staff.

[StarkVegasSteve]

His issue isn?t so much his value, (of course his perception is warped of what his value is some) but the bigger issue is the relationship between him and the staff.

Sounds exactly like Murphy last year. There will be a way back for Riley just like there was for Murph. I like Riley a lot. I think he has had some definite mental struggles from how the Florida stuff ended and I think he is still trying to prove himself in a sense. He is a good kid though. I really get sick of the shit I see from dumbasses who hide behind fake Twitter profiles running the kid down.

[Coach34]

Kugel is a flake a but a talented one. I'd like to see him stay and mature but we shall see what happens

[NCMSTFAN]

Kanye Clary to Oklahoma State

[StarkVegasSteve]

Kanye Clary to Oklahoma State

I would set the O/U of games played at 12.5

[msstate7]

I would set the O/U of games played at 12.5

I expect a huge season bc well... that's sorta what happens with us to make us say what if for 5 years

[msstate7]

LSU already got 3 nice transfers. We need to pick up the pace

[KOdawg1]

LSU already got 3 nice transfers. We need to pick up the pace

Ja'borri McGhee is down to us and OM and seems to be leaning our way at the moment.

Would be a solid combo guard that gets a good amount of minutes off the bench.

[BigDawg81]

Ja'borri McGhee is down to us and OM and seems to be leaning our way at the moment.

Would be a solid combo guard that gets a good amount of minutes off the bench.committed

[KOdawg1]

Annnddd Ja'Borri McGhee just committed.

Averaged 11 points and shot 40% from 3.

Solid get.

[BigDawg81]

Annnddd Ja'Borri McGhee just committed.


Averaged 11 points and shot 40% from 3.

Solid get. Solid start for Jans

[msstate7]

Annnddd Ja'Borri McGhee just committed.

Averaged 11 points and shot 40% from 3.

Solid get.

Asked and I received

[StarkVegasSteve]

Great get with McGhee. He is a guy we needed.

[KOdawg1]

Need another SG with height and size to pair with Hubb, a SF that can make 3s and defend, and then a rim protector/glass cleaner down low.

[NCMSTFAN]

Riley Kugel to Central Florida

[StarkVegasSteve]

Riley Kugel to Central Florida

Interesting take for Dawkins and staff. I kind of thought he would go G5. Interesting to see him stick at the P4 level.

[gtowndawg]

Interesting take for Dawkins and staff. I kind of thought he would go G5. Interesting to see him stick at the P4 level.

He's from Orlando so I guess he's just going home.

[Coach34]

Annnddd Ja'Borri McGhee just committed.

Averaged 11 points and shot 40% from 3.

Solid get.

spent 2 months working that and it pays off

[Coach34]

Interesting take for Dawkins and staff. I kind of thought he would go G5. Interesting to see him stick at the P4 level.

P4 talent with a 10 cent head

[StarkVegasSteve]

P4 talent with a 10 cent head

I talked to some Florida GAs Saturday night and they said the same thing. Said he's got lottery pick talent but just has too many mental issues that he needs to work through. Said they did everything they could to help him

[LC Dawg]

Annnddd Ja'Borri McGhee just committed.

Averaged 11 points and shot 40% from 3.

Solid get.

His 3 pt percentage dropped 10 points just by committing to us.****

[BigDawg81]

Who is the next commit?

[Tater]

Kugel still is chasing being more of a focal than a role player.

He could be great as 3&D. Oh well. Find some more.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who is the next commit?

Quincy Ballard, 6-11 C from Wichita State, is the name a lot of people are zeroing in on. I am decently confident but Memphis being on him is going to muddy the waters.

[BeardoMSU]

Welp...

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1910016317974782241?t=0gfuvjAzPU2Y5y1d1tti5Q&s=19

[BeardoMSU]

https://y.yarn.co/a9ad63aa-45af-46f7-afef-61c85e7bb91b_text.gif

[StarkVegasSteve]

Welp...

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1910016317974782241?t=0gfuvjAzPU2Y5y1d1tti5Q&s=19

Was hoping that would not happen but he would have to be stupid to not test the market. If the rumor of what Nwoko got is true then Murphy will be pushing 7 figures.

[38843dawg]

Was hoping that would not happen but he would have to be stupid to not test the market. If the rumor of what Nwoko got is true then Murphy will be pushing 7 figures.

Bama getting involved. It will take at least that to keep him.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bama getting involved. It will take at least that to keep him.

Because of how we have the Hubbard deal structured, Murph will end up making over double what Josh will make next year.

[msstate7]

I find myself moving farther and farther to pro sports

[38843dawg]

Bama getting involved. It will take at least that to keep him.

And auburn

[Coach34]

and this is why I harp that everything changed in 2022. We wont win battles against SEC Big Dawgs

Barring a furniture miracle- he gone

[CaptainObvious]

I find myself moving farther and farther to pro sports

I find myself moving closer and closer to the Club Sports. We have no shot in Football, a 5% shot in Men's Basketball, a 25% shot in Women's Basketball, Softball and Golf, a 40% shot in Baseball, and a 50% shot at Men's Tennis!

While the majority of the country doesn't give a rats patuty about baseball, put your emphasis on it and women's sports, where NIL is not quite as detrimental!

[HoopsDawg]

I find myself moving closer and closer to the Club Sports. We have no shot in Football, a 5% shot in Men's Basketball, a 25% shot in Women's Basketball, Softball and Golf, a 40% shot in Baseball, and a 50% shot at Men's Tennis!

While the majority of the country doesn't give a rats patuty about baseball, put your emphasis on it and women's sports, where NIL is not quite as detrimental!

Say What?

[maroonmania]

I find myself moving closer and closer to the Club Sports. We have no shot in Football, a 5% shot in Men's Basketball, a 25% shot in Women's Basketball, Softball and Golf, a 40% shot in Baseball, and a 50% shot at Men's Tennis!

While the majority of the country doesn't give a rats patuty about baseball, put your emphasis on it and women's sports, where NIL is not quite as detrimental!

Been saying basically the same thing to the MSU fans that think we should throw all of our money into football and MBB. We are fighting a losing battle in those 2 sports no matter what we do until some NIL/portal rules are changed. Baseball is the only mens sport left that fans care about where we still have a chance to compete at a high level.

[BravesDoggy]

Been saying basically the same thing to the MSU fans that think we should throw all of our money into football and MBB. We are fighting a losing battle in those 2 sports no matter what we do until some NIL/portal rules are changed. Baseball is the only mens sport left that fans care about where we still have a chance to compete at a high level.

Yet we are closer to the middle of the SEC (from below) than the top of the SEC.

[CaptainObvious]

And I'm not saying throw our money at those sports. While there are a few "me", "me" "me" prima donas in those minor sports, it is primarily the football and basketball programs that have the guys who say " what ya gonna pay me? Cause I think I'm worth this much and I'll go over there if they will pay me more than you will while also offering me a better chance to win cause you ain't overbuying the players to make us a winner and I ain't playing for nobody who ain't spending all their money to win"!


We can spend the university into oblivion and still be in the bottom 6 in those sports! So spend proportionately based on where you have the better chance at success! Football is still going to get more because it cost more to finish dead last there then it does to finish in the Top 6 in the minor sports.

We had a pretty decent basketball team this year but where did they finish? In the middle of the SEC and made the top 68 but we're not one of the Top 48 teams this year. You can spend less there and get the same results as the past 3 years because you only have a 13 person roster with a 25 person traveling entourage.

Baseball is about to be strained with a 34 person full scholarship roster who also get NIL. Same with Softball. Football going to 105 scholarships is stupid! Just means the top programs will have 2 sets of starters while the lesser programs like State will have guys on the roster with a scholarship thst will never see game action. That's silly! And stupid!

[Thick]

And I'm not saying throw our money at those sports. While there are a few "me", "me" "me" prima donas in those minor sports, it is primarily the football and basketball programs that have the guys who say " what ya gonna pay me? Cause I think I'm worth this much and I'll go over there if they will pay me more than you will while also offering me a better chance to win cause you ain't overbuying the players to make us a winner and I ain't playing for nobody who ain't spending all their money to win"!


We can spend the university into oblivion and still be in the bottom 6 in those sports! So spend proportionately based on where you have the better chance at success! Football is still going to get more because it cost more to finish dead last there then it does to finish in the Top 6 in the minor sports.

We had a pretty decent basketball team this year but where did they finish? In the middle of the SEC and made the top 68 but we're not one of the Top 48 teams this year. You can spend less there and get the same results as the past 3 years because you only have a 13 person roster with a 25 person traveling entourage.

Baseball is about to be strained with a 34 person full scholarship roster who also get NIL. Same with Softball. Football going to 105 scholarships is stupid! Just means the top programs will have 2 sets of starters while the lesser programs like State will have guys on the roster with a scholarship thst will never see game action. That's silly! And stupid!

Right on!!

[CaptainObvious]

I can see it now in about 3 years.

Alabama A team schedules to play Georgia A team, while Alabama B team schedules to play Mississippi State A team and Georgia B team schedules to play Vandy A team!

[gtowndawg]

NIL sucks but just a reminder of what sports fans care about:

Football Championship - 23 million viewers
Basketball Championship - 18 million viewers
Baseball Championship - 3 million viewers

If you want to matter, you have to figure out how to be competitive in football or men's basketball (or some combo of both). I'm not talking about winning it all, I just mean be good with some occasional really good years.

We could win the natty in baseball, golf, tennis and soccer every year and it will not matter if we want to be relevant. That's just real talk even though it's a hard one to solve.

[BigDawg81]

NIL sucks but just a reminder of what sports fans care about:

Football Championship - 23 million viewers
Basketball Championship - 18 million viewers
Baseball Championship - 3 million viewers

If you want to matter, you have to figure out how to be competitive in football or men's basketball (or some combo of both). I'm not talking about winning it all, I just mean be good with some occasional really good years.

We could win the natty in baseball, golf, tennis and soccer every year and it will not matter if we want to be relevant. That's just real talk even though it's a hard one to solve.
It?s been mentioned a couple of times and once by 34. Where does baseball stand with Selmon? From a business standpoint, I get it if baseball is 3rd in priority and less resources goes into baseball. I guess my question is that ? Will the boosters allow taking resources away from baseball and add those resources to football and basketball?

[NCMSTFAN]

I don't understand why some of you are saying we will never win in Mens basketball with NIL. To be honest that's one of the easier sports that can be rebuilt in a season. Football is by far the hardest and we are just too far behind the curveball to win at a high level consistently. Basketball can be rebuilt in an off season. Look at Florida for example who just won't the National Championship, they have 5 transfers in and 4 of them contributed heavily in their run. Their top 3 scorers transferred in.

Supposedly we got some NIL money for basketball, if that's the case why can't we rebuild in a season and be competitive? I hate these new rules as much as most of you do but until changes are made we have to adapt like everyone else.

[Tater]

I don't understand why some of you are saying we will never win in Mens basketball with NIL. To be honest that's one of the easier sports that can be rebuilt in a season. Football is by far the hardest and we are just too far behind the curveball to win at a high level consistently. Basketball can be rebuilt in an off season. Look at Florida for example who just won't the National Championship, they have 5 transfers in and 4 of them contributed heavily in their run. Their top 3 scorers transferred in.

Supposedly we got some NIL money for basketball, if that's the case why can't we rebuild in a season and be competitive? I hate these new rules as much as most of you do but until changes are made we have to adapt like everyone else.

Historically we (and most teams) have gotten good through good rebuilding / building.

It feels weird to be in the reload era, but until we make these real multi-year contracts - it's reality.

In our NCAA tournament game we had the following scoring output:

2025
Hubbard - 26
Transfers - 32
Murphy - 10
Matthews - 2
Jones - 2

Just surround Hubbard with a team of 4 3&D guards/wings, a 7' rim protector, a post "bucket", and a true point. That 9 man rotation is what you need. If we just hit our ****ing open 3s man.

Let's see what we round out the team. Got 2 spots filled. Jones / Warren need to step up to be able to fill one of those roles. Murphy ain't gone for sure but his money will be costly. He has to take another big leap to be worth it. I think he does personally, but not sure we agree for that price point.

[Coach34]

The thing is tho- just to get a guy like Murphy costs you a million or more in the portal now. That kind of market is out of our pocketbook. We are trying to keep up with Del Frisco's and Peter Luger when we are Shapley's.

[gtowndawg]

It?s been mentioned a couple of times and once by 34. Where does baseball stand with Selmon? From a business standpoint, I get it if baseball is 3rd in priority and less resources goes into baseball. I guess my question is that ? Will the boosters allow taking resources away from baseball and add those resources to football and basketball?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question (what Selmon thinks about Baseball) but from everything I've seen revenue sharing will be broken down like:

Football - 75%
Men's Basketball - 15%
All other sports, including baseball, will share the last 10%

I think that's a pretty standard breakdown at every school, but I've seen some closer to 85% for football (Georgia for example).

[gtowndawg]

Historically we (and most teams) have gotten good through good rebuilding / building.

It feels weird to be in the reload era, but until we make these real multi-year contracts - it's reality.

In our NCAA tournament game we had the following scoring output:

2025
Hubbard - 26
Transfers - 32
Murphy - 10
Matthews - 2
Jones - 2

Just surround Hubbard with a team of 4 3&D guards/wings, a 7' rim protector, a post "bucket", and a true point. That 9 man rotation is what you need. If we just hit our ****ing open 3s man.

Let's see what we round out the team. Got 2 spots filled. Jones / Warren need to step up to be able to fill one of those roles. Murphy ain't gone for sure but his money will be costly. He has to take another big leap to be worth it. I think he does personally, but not sure we agree for that price point.

Agreed on all points.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Quincy Ballard=DAWG

[Bdawg]

Quincy Ballard=DAWG

Nice!

[KOdawg1]

The thing is tho- just to get a guy like Murphy costs you a million or more in the portal now. That kind of market is out of our pocketbook. We are trying to keep up with Del Frisco's and Peter Luger when we are Shapley's.

I don't claim to be an insider, but I know for a fact we didn't lose Murphy because of money.

He's shopping himself out there to see what he can get, but we are prepared to pay him.

[Coach34]

I don't claim to be an insider, but I know for a fact we didn't lose Murphy because of money.

He's shopping himself out there to see what he can get, but we are prepared to pay him.

Oh we have money- we just dont have top line money. We had the money to pay Murphy as you said- but now in the portal- his price goes up 40-50%. That's what I mean about being able to put together a Final Four level roster. We just cant. We would have to Moneyball it- which is possible as well. Get a couple of expensive toys and surround them with solid vets. Thats what we tried to do this past season. But our vets couldnt knock down open shots.

[KB21]

Quincy Ballard=DAWG

Ballard is a better fit for the style that Chris Jans wants to play than what he had this season. He?s an elite finisher at the rim, strong rebounder, and will give you rim protection.

[NCMSTFAN]

Lets talk a little more about the Quincy Ballard commit. 6'11 250 pound commit out of Wichita State. Averaged 10 ppg 9 rpg on 75% shooting. Pretty nice pickup!! Everyone has been wanting a rim protecting big... here you go

[Coach34]

great pick-up. Is more of the toughness we need in the paint.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lets talk a little more about the Quincy Ballard commit. 6'11 250 pound commit out of Wichita State. Averaged 10 ppg 9 rpg on 75% shooting. Pretty nice pickup!! Everyone has been wanting a rim protecting big... here you go

This is a MASSIVE upgrade over Nwoko.

[vv83]

Ahhh damn losing Murphy sucks now because Hubbard, Murphy, and Ballard are 3 you could really focus this roster around.

[Coach34]

This is a MASSIVE upgrade over Nwoko.

BUT:

Murphy/Nwoko > Ballard/Bok Choi

We got to keep upgrading

[BeardoMSU]

BUT:

Murphy/Nwoko > Ballard/Bok Choi

We got to keep upgrading

Unless we can somehow revert back to early 90s ball....

[Coach34]

Unless we can somehow revert back to early 90s ball....

Yeah- having a dude on the block is great but that guy also needs to hit a 15 footer and defend in space

[CaptainObvious]

NIL sucks but just a reminder of what sports fans care about:

Football Championship - 23 million viewers
Basketball Championship - 18 million viewers
Baseball Championship - 3 million viewers

If you want to matter, you have to figure out how to be competitive in football or men's basketball (or some combo of both). I'm not talking about winning it all, I just mean be good with some occasional really good years.

We could win the natty in baseball, golf, tennis and soccer every year and it will not matter if we want to be relevant. That's just real talk even though it's a hard one to solve.

I don't give a good crap about what "sports fans" (assuming you mean nationwide) care about. Wisconsin and Penn State and Ohio State and Michigan are going to care more about football and basketball because baseball isn't a cold weather sport and the have 100,000 plus seat Football Stadiums and they have played football at the top of the mountain. But they also love Ice Hockey and probably give more than 2 shits about Curling. So what. What I do know is Mississippi State has played for 2 National Championships in Baseball and on two really freaky seasons got a whiff of a Basketball Final 4 rarified air, and found lightening in a bottle for 9 weeks in Football until they do what they always do against Aladamnbama and lost 3 of the last 4 games they played. The BEST DAMN FOOTBALL TEAM we ever had, lost to our hated rivals!

The pinnacle of College Football is now the CFP and the only year State came close in any of our lifetimes only 4 teams qualified and the team that took our place at #4. AFTER we lost to Ole Miss, won the whole thing that first 4 Team Year!

The pinnacle of College Basketball ( some here think it's just qualifying for the 68 team tourney) is the Final 4 and State made it 1 time in history as a 5 seed!

The pinnacle of Women's Basketball is the same and not only did State make it to the Final 4, they made it to the Final 2!

The pinnacle of College Baseball is Omaha and I believe State has made it 9 or 10 times with Two 3rd place finishes, one 2nd place finish, and ONE 1st place finish!

So crow about how the country doesn't care about College Baseball all you want! It's the closest thing State will EVER COME TO WINNING a sport that is also played at the professional level!

[KB21]

Yeah- having a dude on the block is great but that guy also needs to hit a 15 footer and defend in space

A 15 footer is a terrible shot and doesn?t need to be shot that often.

[Turfdawg67]

and this is why I harp that everything changed in 2022. We wont win battles against SEC Big Dawgs

Barring a furniture miracle- he gone

You can keep harping, but most knew it changed with the NIL? I posted a meme of Colonel Trautman saying to Rambo as such. ?It?s over Johnny.? It ain?t rocket science dude

[cheewgumm]

I?ll take the rim protector over Murphy.


That allows us to be way more aggressive guarding the 3.

Love to have both , but I?m good if not.

[msstate7]

Need a scorer. I like both of our pick ups, but neither scored as much as I'd like to see coming from a lower conference.

[Turfdawg67]

You can keep harping, but most knew it changed with the NIL? I posted a meme of Colonel Trautman saying to Rambo as such. ?It?s over Johnny.? It ain?t rocket science dude

Can Scooba stickie a thread how to stop the question marks again? It just started happening again

[Turfdawg67]

Welp...

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1910016317974782241?t=0gfuvjAzPU2Y5y1d1tti5Q&s=19

Damn. Or as Chewgum says, Dam!!

[HoopsDawg]

Lets talk a little more about the Quincy Ballard commit. 6'11 250 pound commit out of Wichita State. Averaged 10 ppg 9 rpg on 75% shooting. Pretty nice pickup!! Everyone has been wanting a rim protecting big... here you go

Huge need. Great fit for Jans. Great fit for Hubbard. Excellent work. This is a big piece guys.

[HoopsDawg]

Need a scorer. I like both of our pick ups, but neither scored as much as I'd like to see coming from a lower conference.

Right now we have 2 starters: Hubbard and Ballard. We have 2 nice reserves in Jones and McGhee. Need to land legitimate pieces at the 2-3-4 and 1 front court rotation piece. So focus money on Hubbard and 3 guys. I've been telling yall for 10 years that depth is overrated.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I don't give a good crap about what "sports fans" (assuming you mean nationwide) care about. Wisconsin and Penn State and Ohio State and Michigan are going to care more about football and basketball because baseball isn't a cold weather sport and the have 100,000 plus seat Football Stadiums and they have played football at the top of the mountain. But they also love Ice Hockey and probably give more than 2 shits about Curling. So what. What I do know is Mississippi State has played for 2 National Championships in Baseball and on two really freaky seasons got a whiff of a Basketball Final 4 rarified air, and found lightening in a bottle for 9 weeks in Football until they do what they always do against Aladamnbama and lost 3 of the last 4 games they played. The BEST DAMN FOOTBALL TEAM we ever had, lost to our hated rivals!

The pinnacle of College Football is now the CFP and the only year State came close in any of our lifetimes only 4 teams qualified and the team that took our place at #4. AFTER we lost to Ole Miss, won the whole thing that first 4 Team Year!

The pinnacle of College Basketball ( some here think it's just qualifying for the 68 team tourney) is the Final 4 and State made it 1 time in history as a 5 seed!

The pinnacle of Women's Basketball is the same and not only did State make it to the Final 4, they made it to the Final 2!

The pinnacle of College Baseball is Omaha and I believe State has made it 9 or 10 times with Two 3rd place finishes, one 2nd place finish, and ONE 1st place finish!

So crow about how the country doesn't care about College Baseball all you want! It's the closest thing State will EVER COME TO WINNING a sport that is also played at the professional level!

It sure worked out well for Oregon State only caring about baseball. That will be us in the next realignment if we don?t start performing in the two sports that matter ugh so many of our fans don?t get it

[Tater]

Talented Scorer - Hubbard
True Point Guard -
Backup Point Guard - Warren?
3&D Wing #1 -
3&D Wing #2 -
3&D Wing #3 - McGhee
3&D Wing #4 - Jones
Post Scorer who is a bucket -
7 footer who doesn't have a major "weakness" - Ballard
Backup defensive specialist big - One of the "mississippi gatorade player of the year" kids?

Still work to be done. Like others said, we need scorers. Paying for Murphy would be good. Murphy + true point + 3&D wing is the best case scenario for our starting lineup.

[Tater]

Any chance we're on Watkins from FSU, Wood Harris i mean Tre Holloman from otherMSU, Mackenzie Mgabko from Indiana, Jaron Pierre from Jax State?

Yes this is pie in the sky and unrealistic, but those 4 + Murphy would make us a top 10 maybe top 5 team.

[Rawdawg]

Was hoping that would not happen but he would have to be stupid to not test the market. If the rumor of what Nwoko got is true then Murphy will be pushing 7 figures.

I?m not sourcing it here because I don?t feel comfortable doing that but we offered him 7 figures to stay.

[msstate7]

I?m not sourcing it here because I don?t feel comfortable doing that but we offered him 7 figures to stay.

Man, would we be able to get more help if we pay that?

[Goldendawg]

It sure worked out well for Oregon State only caring about baseball. That will be us in the next realignment if we don?t start performing in the two sports that matter ugh so many of our fans don?t get it

Glad we won a NC in baseball but it is a regional college sport just like college hockey in the North and East. How many on the board can tell me who won the last couple of NCAA hockey championships? Few fans outside the South can name baseball champs. Last time I checked, top college revenue by sport was football (far and away), MBB (makes $), hockey (don't now if it finishes in the black), and fourth baseball (doubt very few programs finish in the black). Football wags all the other college sports $ wise.

[CaptainObvious]

Glad we won a NC in baseball but it is a regional college sport just like college hockey in the North and East. How many on the board can tell me who won the last couple of NCAA hockey championships? Few fans outside the South can name baseball champs. Last time I checked, top college revenue by sport was football (far and away), MBB (makes $), hockey (don't now if it finishes in the black), and fourth baseball (doubt very few programs finish in the black). Football wags all the other college sports $ wise.

Y'all just don't get it! It ain't about the money for those of us who like baseball Mississippi State Style. It's about the winning! And State has done most of her winning in Baseball! And Javelin chunking!

[StarkVegasSteve]

I?m not sourcing it here because I don?t feel comfortable doing that but we offered him 7 figures to stay.

That is correct. Or at least the opening offer was close to 7 figures so I feel like before he went to the portal 7 figures would have been the offer. The rumor is Bama pushed him in. I mean maybe they think he can be a Grant Nelson replacement but I really don't see it. Murphy just does not fit the type of player Oats has been recruiting at Bama

[StarkVegasSteve]

Y'all just don't get it! It ain't about the money for those of us who like baseball Mississippi State Style. It's about the winning! And State has done most of her winning in Baseball! And Javelin chunking!

But that money you don't care about will dry up if we only start caring about non revenue sports. So all the stuff baseball gets because we have money from football goes with it. Football pays for everything else on campus, including baseball, and if you suck at football and get relegated to the sun belt in the next realignment then all this money we have for baseball and how we are a top spender go away. We'll be picking between the Oak Hill SS and the Central Hinds 2B on who we give our last scholarship to. Not knocking either of those schools but that's who you'll be recruiting. And they'll be coached by either someone who volunteers to be the coach or someone you are paying 75K-150K to. You have to have money to enjoy that winning you like. Therefore, you have to support football and men's basketball first and foremost. It's weird that no other big time program has this issue. They all support football and most support men's basketball. So why is it that there is such a divide in our fanbase over embracing what actually makes money?

[Tater]

That is correct. Or at least the opening offer was close to 7 figures so I feel like before he went to the portal 7 figures would have been the offer. The rumor is Bama pushed him in. I mean maybe they think he can be a Grant Nelson replacement but I really don't see it. Murphy just does not fit the type of player Oats has been recruiting at Bama

If Murphy wants to make the NBA he has to be able to knock down 3s. If that's his motivation and the money difference is negligible then why wouldn't you go play for Bama instead of us.

[BigDawg81]

That is correct. Or at least the opening offer was close to 7 figures so I feel like before he went to the portal 7 figures would have been the offer. The rumor is Bama pushed him in. I mean maybe they think he can be a Grant Nelson replacement but I really don't see it. Murphy just does not fit the type of player Oats has been recruiting at Bama

I seen something that said Oats is linked to a NBA job.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I seen something that said Oats is linked to a NBA job.

He'll probably get an interview request this cycle. There's been rumors in the last few weeks that he's unhappy with the NIL situation at Bama. I think he'd be down any list of coaches for a franchise though. I really don't know why college coaches ever think going to the NBA will work out for them. There's really only ever been 2, Larry Brown and Brad Stevens. Billy Donovan looks ok just because he's stayed so long. NIL doesn't change the fact that college coaches will still struggle to coach in the NBA.

[msstate7]

He'll probably get an interview request this cycle. There's been rumors in the last few weeks that he's unhappy with the NIL situation at Bama. I think he'd be down any list of coaches for a franchise though. I really don't know why college coaches ever think going to the NBA will work out for them. There's really only ever been 2, Larry Brown and Brad Stevens. Billy Donovan looks ok just because he's stayed so long. NIL doesn't change the fact that college coaches will still struggle to coach in the NBA.

Go get em grizzlies. I think he's good, but even if he isn't, he's out the sec

[CaptainObvious]

But that money you don't care about will dry up if we only start caring about non revenue sports. So all the stuff baseball gets because we have money from football goes with it. Football pays for everything else on campus, including baseball, and if you suck at football and get relegated to the sun belt in the next realignment then all this money we have for baseball and how we are a top spender go away. We'll be picking between the Oak Hill SS and the Central Hinds 2B on who we give our last scholarship to. Not knocking either of those schools but that's who you'll be recruiting. And they'll be coached by either someone who volunteers to be the coach or someone you are paying 75K-150K to. You have to have money to enjoy that winning you like. Therefore, you have to support football and men's basketball first and foremost. It's weird that no other big time program has this issue. They all support football and most support men's basketball. So why is it that there is such a divide in our fanbase over embracing what actually makes money?

Never said I don't "care" about then money. I'm saying you don't take money from Baseball and other so called minor sports to prop up football so thst thst football program can continue to be everybody else's whipping boy in this conference so y'all can puff your chest out and say "WE ARE PART OF THE ALL MIGHTY SEC" while being said whipping boy! We spend more on football than all other sports combined! I'm saying don't destroy other sports that "most" MSU fans also like and enjoy watching to move from 15th to 13th in Football! Spend enough to be competitive in football and basketball without PISSING on baseball because it isn't a so-called money maker!

You are welcome to donate as much to football as you want. Sane for basketball. But a lot of fans aren't going to take the money they give to baseball and move it over to football and basketball. And for some fans on here to keep trying to piss on baseball and push those fans to move their money all in on football and basketball when they don't get the same rewards baseball has given them (STATE FANS not Penn State fans or Midwest and northeast schools) it is asinine and I will keep pushing back. We are NEVER going to win in football as long as we play in the same conference as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, LSU, A&M, Auburn, Oklahoma, et. al, regardless if we spend ALL athletics funding on it and shut down every other men's program except basketball! So just STOP with the Baseball HATE!

[CaptainObvious]

Oh yeah. For the ones who keep pointing out no one around the country remembers who won the college World Series over the last 5 years, probably 90% of sports fans can't tell you who was the Football or basketball champs over the last 10 years without googling it. I love football and basketball! I love all MSU athletics equally!

I sure can't tell you who the D1 Champs were every year for the past 10 years in football or basketball without looking it up! Nor the NBA, NFL, MLB, or the NHL champs over the past 6 years. But there are some on here who can tell you who the last 5 European Soccer Champs were! Talk about useless knowledge!

[PGHBulldogBG]

Never said I don't "care" about then money. I'm saying you don't take money from Baseball and other so called minor sports to prop up football so thst thst football program can continue to be everybody else's whipping boy in this conference so y'all can puff your chest out and say "WE ARE PART OF THE ALL MIGHTY SEC" while being said whipping boy! We spend more on football than all other sports combined! I'm saying don't destroy other sports that "most" MSU fans also like and enjoy watching to move from 15th to 13th in Football! Spend enough to be competitive in football and basketball without PISSING on baseball because it isn't a so-called money maker!

You are welcome to donate as much to football as you want. Sane for basketball. But a lot of fans aren't going to take the money they give to baseball and move it over to football and basketball. And for some fans on here to keep trying to piss on baseball and push those fans to move their money all in on football and basketball when they don't get the same rewards baseball has given them (STATE FANS not Penn State fans or Midwest and northeast schools) it is asinine and I will keep pushing back. We are NEVER going to win in football as long as we play in the same conference as Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, LSU, A&M, Auburn, Oklahoma, et. al, regardless if we spend ALL athletics funding on it and shut down every other men's program except basketball! So just STOP with the Baseball HATE!

So you are fine then with us being left out of the next realignment and being in the AAC just so we can have an average baseball team which will then lose when they play an SEC team in the regional? Because that is exactly what is going to happen until our fans get their heads out of the sand. Not only will it be a blow to our athletic department, but also our funding for academics and other aspects.

[Coach34]

We are not going to get left out of anything. The next realignment will still need easy wins for the Big Boys in football. Nobody is kicking Cleveland out of the NFL- they play a role

[gtowndawg]

But that money you don't care about will dry up if we only start caring about non revenue sports. So all the stuff baseball gets because we have money from football goes with it. Football pays for everything else on campus, including baseball, and if you suck at football and get relegated to the sun belt in the next realignment then all this money we have for baseball and how we are a top spender go away. We'll be picking between the Oak Hill SS and the Central Hinds 2B on who we give our last scholarship to. Not knocking either of those schools but that's who you'll be recruiting. And they'll be coached by either someone who volunteers to be the coach or someone you are paying 75K-150K to. You have to have money to enjoy that winning you like. Therefore, you have to support football and men's basketball first and foremost. It's weird that no other big time program has this issue. They all support football and most support men's basketball. So why is it that there is such a divide in our fanbase over embracing what actually makes money?

Exactly! I want football to be good SO baseball can have the money to be good. That's the only way this formula can work.

[Coach34]

Exactly! I want football to be good SO baseball can have the money to be good. That's the only way this formula can work.

Football doesnt really pay the bills. SEC money pays the bills.

[Thick]

We are not going to get left out of anything. The next realignment will still need easy wins for the Big Boys in football. Nobody is kicking Cleveland out of the NFL- they play a role

That?s funny at first, and then reality steps in, and it becomes sad and depressing!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Football doesnt really pay the bills. SEC money pays the bills.

But why does the SEC give us the money? FOOTBALL CONTRACT allotment.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We are not going to get left out of anything. The next realignment will still need easy wins for the Big Boys in football. Nobody is kicking Cleveland out of the NFL- they play a role

It's more real than you think. Why do they need us? They already have Kentucky, Vandy, USCe, and Arky for that. Those schools bring something to the table besides baseball attendance records.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We are not going to get left out of anything. The next realignment will still need easy wins for the Big Boys in football. Nobody is kicking Cleveland out of the NFL- they play a role

Ask Oregon State and Washington State fans.

[Coach34]

Ask Oregon State and Washington State fans.

They didnt get left out for being shitty programs tho. Wash St has been to bowls 7 out of the last 10 years

[Tater]

It's more real than you think. Why do they need us? They already have Kentucky, Vandy, USCe, and Arky for that. Those schools bring something to the table besides baseball attendance records.

Ole Miss is more likely to get left out than us because they aren't as easy of a win and also bring nothing else to the table.

Party school, Racist name, etc. - lots of reasons to get rid of them.

If you're kicking one mississippi school out, it's them. 4D chess by our admin to suck to make us more desirable to have than OM in a future conference. Free win + no baggage + same TV footprint and market.

[msstate7]

But why does the SEC give us the money? FOOTBALL CONTRACT allotment.

True, but wouldn't the money be basically the same whether we're good or bad?

[Coach34]

https://thespun.com/college-hoops/8-college-basketball-teams-spending-10-million-for-next-seasons-roster

So basically a good roster costs 8-10 million now in basketball

[NCMSTFAN]

The Sun Belt player of the year Tayton Conerway is on campus today. 6'3" big gaurd who is a really good defender. He played at Troy, averaged 14ppg 5rpg 5apg 3 steals. He fits Jans style because of his hard nosed defense and toughness. Simillar to Cam Matthews he fills the stat sheet up and does a little bit of everything including running as a true PG but is listed as a Combo gaurd. Definitely a Jans type player

[R2Dawg]

We are not going to get left out of anything. The next realignment will still need easy wins for the Big Boys in football. Nobody is kicking Cleveland out of the NFL- they play a role

The Harlem Globetrotters needed the Washington Generals or whatever they were called. Yeah, we'll hang around, that is way SEC has treated us for decades.

[Coach34]

The Harlem Globetrotters needed the Washington Generals or whatever they were called. Yeah, we'll hang around, that is way SEC has treated us for decades.

exactly. Not sure why our fans dont understand that. Our football program was basically Vandy until Jackie came along

[Tater]

.

[StateDawg44]

Ole Miss is more likely to get left out than us because they aren't as easy of a win and also bring nothing else to the table.

Party school, Racist name, etc. - lots of reasons to get rid of them.

If you're kicking one mississippi school out, it's them. 4D chess by our admin to suck to make us more desirable to have than OM in a future conference. Free win + no baggage + same TV footprint and market.

You?re an idiot if you believe this would happen and especially for those reasons you listed.