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SteelCityDawg
03-18-2025, 07:09 AM
His average could drop to .100 (I hope it doesn't) but Lemonis will never take him out of the lineup. I hate to see the kid slowly get worse at the plate over the last couple of years, but at some point as a coach you gotta live in the present instead of hoping the past will come back.

parabrave
03-18-2025, 07:32 AM
His average could drop to .100 (I hope it doesn't) but Lemonis will never take him out of the lineup. I hate to see the kid slowly get worse at the plate over the last couple of years, but at some point as a coach you gotta live in the present instead of hoping the past will come back.

or at least move him in the lineup. Sometimes that helps a batter or motivates one to do better. But to keep him at 5th where he is expected to be a clutch hitter is just plain lazy on Lemons part.

Ranchdawg
03-18-2025, 07:55 AM
I’ve read were some peeps say that benching Hines would cause turmoil in the clubhouse. I see just the opposite. Causing turmoil by leaving him in the lineup. His hitting is killing a lot of momentum inning after inning. I have noticed multiple times opposing teams have pitched around our hitters to get to Hines spot in the lineup. Because his hitting is so awful.

basedog
03-18-2025, 08:10 AM
I’ve read were some peeps say that benching Hines would cause turmoil in the clubhouse. I see just the opposite. Causing turmoil by leaving him in the lineup. His hitting is killing a lot of momentum inning after inning. I have noticed multiple times opposing teams have pitched around our hitters to get to Hines spot in the lineup. Because his hitting is so awful.

The way we hit this past weekend Texas pitchers didn't have to pitch around anyone.

Pancho
03-18-2025, 01:05 PM
^^^^^^

Coach34
03-18-2025, 01:41 PM
Hines is hitting .306 in his last 9 games

maroonmania
03-18-2025, 02:07 PM
Hines is hitting .306 in his last 9 games

The issue is he's hitting about .500 with nobody on base and around .100 with runners on.

bulldogcountry1
03-18-2025, 02:07 PM
Hines is hitting .306 in his last 9 games

What about with RISP?


6 RBI to 11 LOB in that span. 1 RBI in his last 7 games.

HoopsDawg
03-18-2025, 02:14 PM
No need to run down Hines or Hancock. 2 loyal bulldogs that have given their all to the program.

The issue is we have lost 3-4 games that should have been won due to poor pitching decisions and poor defensive decisions.

The even bigger issue is not having a Saturday and Sunday starter at this point in the season and at this point in the Lemonis tenure.

And maybe the biggest issue is lack of evaluation, urgency, roster management, leadership and culture since the championship.

basedog
03-18-2025, 02:16 PM
Batting Statistics
year team name league level mlb # age pos g ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi sb cs bb so hbp sh sf iw dp tb pa xbh 1b avg obp slg ops seca iso babip bb% so% so_bb ab_hr

2025 Mississippi State SEC NCAA-1 31 22 3B 18 71 12 18 4 0 3 12 0 0 6 15 0 0 1 0 1 31 78 7 11 .254 .308 .437 .745 .268 .183 .278 7.69 19.23 2.50 23.67

basedog
03-18-2025, 02:17 PM
No need to run down Hines or Hancock. 2 loyal bulldogs that have given their all to the program.

The issue is we have lost 3-4 games that should have been won due to poor pitching decisions and poor defensive decisions.

The even bigger issue is not having a Saturday and Sunday starter at this point in the season and at this point in the Lemonis tenure.

And maybe the biggest issue is lack of evaluation, urgency, roster management, leadership and culture since the championship.

I agree especially your last statement

Pancho
03-18-2025, 02:20 PM
that in itself totally sums up why and how Lemo is simply lacking. I'm going to high school games tonite instead of paying attention to the Lemo show.

Goldendawg
03-18-2025, 02:29 PM
I read on here almost every year what a great recruiting class that Lemonis has had or especially how great the incoming class is to help right the ship next year. Does he and his staff develop anyone? Is it becoming like our football classes, good for us is the bottom third of conference?

HoopsDawg
03-18-2025, 02:54 PM
I read on here almost every year what a great recruiting class that Lemonis has had or especially how great the incoming class is to help right the ship next year. Does he and his staff develop anyone? Is it becoming like our football classes, good for us is the bottom third of conference?

The 2024 signing class was not good. He lost Noah Franco. At the time, everyone on this board said it didn't matter bc he was going pro. Of course, they were wrong and he's throwing 97 and hitting homers for TCU right now.

The 2025 class has a couple of questionable signings but is probably his best class assuming we don't lose 2-3 to the draft. That is very possible. He also missed out on a couple of really talented in-state players.

The development hasn't been awful but imagine our team without the portal. It would be pretty bad. In fairness, you can say that about several teams.

Pancho
03-18-2025, 02:58 PM
how many incoming freshmen have contributed on a large scale for Lemo since he has been here? He can't wait til they are self motivated juniors to contribute.

maroonmania
03-18-2025, 03:00 PM
No need to run down Hines or Hancock. 2 loyal bulldogs that have given their all to the program.

The issue is we have lost 3-4 games that should have been won due to poor pitching decisions and poor defensive decisions.

The even bigger issue is not having a Saturday and Sunday starter at this point in the season and at this point in the Lemonis tenure.

And maybe the biggest issue is lack of evaluation, urgency, roster management, leadership and culture since the championship.

Not going to let the offense totally off the hook. I realize they were 7 inning games but 6 runs in either game would have given us a win on Sunday and we couldn't get it done. We got 4 runs total in 2 games. That won't cut it. Statistically we look pretty good but our situational hitting is really bad for the most part. Only guy that showed some clutch ability over the weekend was Reese. When you don't hit well with RISP and you give away outs with stupid baserunning it's difficult to ever have a big scoring inning.

Coach34
03-18-2025, 03:00 PM
I read on here almost every year what a great recruiting class that Lemonis has had or especially how great the incoming class is to help right the ship next year. Does he and his staff develop anyone? Is it becoming like our football classes, good for us is the bottom third of conference?

We just had 12 guys drafted. I think evaluations and recruiting have been pretty good lately. Our freshmen group of pitchers are among the best groups in the country

He needs to get some W's

We have certainly lacked being "clutch". Thats why the stats are solid but have not produced enough wins

somebodyshotmypaw
03-18-2025, 08:29 PM
We just had 12 guys drafted. I think evaluations and recruiting have been pretty good lately. Our freshmen group of pitchers are among the best groups in the country

He needs to get some W's

We have certainly lacked being "clutch". Thats why the stats are solid but have not produced enough wins


This is true. We have talent and they are performing. We just aren’t performing in the clutch, and we are making questionable coaching decisions in crucial spots in close games, etc. We seem to be losing all of the close games.

Cowbell
03-18-2025, 08:41 PM
I have brought this up multiple times this season already but the bigger issue is why do we have so many hitters not hitting their full potential. I seem to remember our pitching staff in the same situation before we switched coaches. I'm not even mad at Hines. It's obvious our hitters don't collectively improve like they should and our best hitters every year are now transfers we bring in.

Coach34
03-18-2025, 09:10 PM
I have brought this up multiple times this season already but the bigger issue is why do we have so many hitters not hitting their full potential. I seem to remember our pitching staff in the same situation before we switched coaches. I'm not even mad at Hines. It's obvious our hitters don't collectively improve like they should and our best hitters every year are now transfers we bring in.

Trout is maximizing his potential
Stevens is hitting well
Downs is hitting well
Cupp is improved
O'Brien is getting better

Who is not getting better besides Hines?

Todd4State
03-18-2025, 09:39 PM
Trout is maximizing his potential
Stevens is hitting well
Downs is hitting well
Cupp is improved
O'Brien is getting better

Who is not getting better besides Hines?

And hell- Jake actually got Hines to use the whole field for a few games. A lot of people on here said that wasn't possible.

Todd4State
03-18-2025, 09:43 PM
The 2024 signing class was not good. He lost Noah Franco. At the time, everyone on this board said it didn't matter bc he was going pro. Of course, they were wrong and he's throwing 97 and hitting homers for TCU right now.

The 2025 class has a couple of questionable signings but is probably his best class assuming we don't lose 2-3 to the draft. That is very possible. He also missed out on a couple of really talented in-state players.

The development hasn't been awful but imagine our team without the portal. It would be pretty bad. In fairness, you can say that about several teams.

We lost Franco because of a NIL bidding war. Wouldn't surprise me if he enters the portal and tries to get as much as possible.

When our starting rotation is Landon Harmon, Charlie Foster, and Ryan McPherson in two years you'll be Ok with recruiting. We dominated in state recruiting and we flipped Mershon who is a guy that can help as a freshman and signed one of the top catchers in the country.

HoopsDawg
03-18-2025, 11:36 PM
We lost Franco because of a NIL bidding war. Wouldn't surprise me if he enters the portal and tries to get as much as possible.

When our starting rotation is Landon Harmon, Charlie Foster, and Ryan McPherson in two years you'll be Ok with recruiting. We dominated in state recruiting and we flipped Mershon who is a guy that can help as a freshman and signed one of the top catchers in the country.

We lost Franco bc we got out recruited. Some of you guys have no clue.

Todd4State
03-19-2025, 12:48 AM
We lost Franco bc we got out recruited. Some of you guys have no clue.

I have a pretty good clue on what happened with Franco.

Cowbell
03-19-2025, 08:59 PM
Trout is maximizing his potential
Stevens is hitting well
Downs is hitting well
Cupp is improved
O'Brien is getting better

Who is not getting better besides Hines?

Downs has improved but it has taken him a lifetime to get there. Chance ain't no different than he has been the last 2 years. Our hitting average is going to continue to decrease because we have faced very little above average pitching and we saw how we did this weekend. That's why I predicted us to go 0-3. Our best hitters are transfers.

RezDog7
03-19-2025, 10:18 PM
We just had 12 guys drafted. I think evaluations and recruiting have been pretty good lately. Our freshmen group of pitchers are among the best groups in the country

He needs to get some W's

We have certainly lacked being "clutch". Thats why the stats are solid but have not produced enough wins

12 players drafted yet we can't win enough games to host a regional. Sounds like a coaching issue to me.

Coach34
03-19-2025, 10:34 PM
12 players drafted yet we can't win enough games to host a regional. Sounds like a coaching issue to me.

2 teams hosted with worse resumes than ours. Our fans not realizing college baseball and college sports period have changed in these last 3 years is just mind blowing

RezDog7
03-19-2025, 10:44 PM
2 teams hosted with worse resumes than ours. Our fans not realizing college baseball and college sports period have changed in these last 3 years is just mind blowing

Just because you say things, doesn't make it true. Matter of fact, most everything you say, is complete nonsense.

parabrave
03-20-2025, 02:29 AM
The issue is he's hitting about .500 with nobody on base and around .100 with runners on.

This.

HoopsDawg
03-20-2025, 10:27 AM
2 teams hosted with worse resumes than ours. Our fans not realizing college baseball and college sports period have changed in these last 3 years is just mind blowing

Non conference scheduling.

Coach34
03-20-2025, 11:45 AM
Just because you say things, doesn't make it true. Matter of fact, most everything you say, is complete nonsense.

Well- it's 100% fact that two teams with lower RPI's hosted over us. I cant help idiots like you unable to understand that

State82
03-20-2025, 02:00 PM
Well- it's 100% fact that two teams with lower RPI's hosted over us. I cant help idiots like you unable to understand that

That was an unmitigated hosing we took last season during the host site selection.

RezDog7
03-20-2025, 10:54 PM
Well- it's 100% fact that two teams with lower RPI's hosted over us. I cant help idiots like you unable to understand that

The only idiot is the one trying to convince everyone that Lemonis is a good coach.