View Full Version : MBK vs ark line flip
msstate7
03-07-2025, 10:13 PM
I refuse to get excited about this game, but the line is weird. It opened at ark -1.5, which is expected. Now it's state -1.5. WTH
EdwardDrayton
03-07-2025, 10:35 PM
I refuse to get excited about this game, but the line is weird. It opened at ark -1.5, which is expected. Now it's state -1.5. WTH
That makes no sense. I maybe could've bought us opening as the favorite with Thiero still out but not the flip.
RezDog7
03-07-2025, 10:49 PM
I expect to lose by double digits.
msstate7
03-07-2025, 11:14 PM
Now it's ark -1.5 again. Perhaps ESPN just made a mistake for a couple hours.
EdwardDrayton
03-07-2025, 11:17 PM
Now it's ark -1.5 again. Perhaps ESPN just made a mistake for a couple hours.
Now THAT is a likely explanation.
msstate7
03-07-2025, 11:18 PM
Now THAT is a likely explanation.
That's a hell of a mistake though when you can place bets on the site (not in MS).
Homedawg
03-07-2025, 11:24 PM
I refuse to get excited about this game, but the line is weird. It opened at ark -1.5, which is expected. Now it's state -1.5. WTH
If it were me I'd take the hogs. But I hope to be wrong
msstate7
03-07-2025, 11:26 PM
If it were me I'd take the hogs. But I hope to be wrong
I think ark at anything under 5 pts is free money. I hope to be wrong too
EdwardDrayton
03-07-2025, 11:31 PM
That's a hell of a mistake though when you can place bets on the site (not in MS).
Yes it is but would not surprise me given it's ESPN.
EdwardDrayton
03-07-2025, 11:32 PM
I think ark at anything under 5 pts is free money. I hope to be wrong too
Agree. And want to be wrong as well.
klong-dog
03-08-2025, 01:39 AM
Yep, Arkansas will beat us by 12. 75-63 ish.
MoreCowbell
03-08-2025, 02:56 AM
I think ark at anything under 5 pts is free money. I hope to be wrong too
This is a game we win- Right after we all hop off the wagon and have been saying for weeks now we will not win this game at Ark but will have won Texas. We will win tomorrow over a below average team at their place, but because we were not expecting it we kinda feel like it was a good road win and needed headed into SECT. We will scrape by SECT first round then get blown out second.
We go into NCAAT nervous but hopeful because we are higher seed and it is time to win a tourney game for State. We then will lose to higher seeded team in a frustrating game where we cannot put them away at points in the game and thus lose because other team shoots 44% from 3.
Bookmark this.
BigDawg81
03-08-2025, 07:28 AM
Yep, Arkansas will beat us by 12. 75-63 ish. I think it will be close. State plays better on the road even though I do not understand why State plays better on the road. It is like wiping before you poop. It does not make sense.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 09:04 AM
I think ark at anything under 5 pts is free money. I hope to be wrong too
We play better on the road honestly. And as we saw last Saturday, if we can jump on them early, they will roll over and die pretty quickly. I also think the pressure is off them as they are probably in the tournament at this point.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 09:16 AM
We play better on the road honestly. And as we saw last Saturday, if we can jump on them early, they will roll over and die pretty quickly. I also think the pressure is off them as they are probably in the tournament at this point.
I wanna believe, but our defense has been atrious lately.
basedog
03-08-2025, 10:17 AM
This game is iffy for us, we could squeak a win or get blown out. It's weird to watch us as we look energized at times and dead tired at times. I just don't think this team chemistry is very good, jealously creates problems.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 10:24 AM
This game is iffy for us, we could squeak a win or get blown out. It's weird to watch us as we look energized at times and dead tired at times. I just don't think this team chemistry is very good, jealously creates problems.
Most confounding team I've ever seen.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 10:30 AM
The last time this season I felt this defeated, we won at OM. I will take the same approach today and not watch.
RezDog7
03-08-2025, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I hate being this negative but the only consistent thing about this team is inconsistency. A&M was the only complete game we've played.
Coach34
03-08-2025, 12:02 PM
This is a big game for us. Lose and we are likely an 8 seed
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 12:40 PM
Ark with 7 players and we getting it handed to us.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 12:41 PM
Can't hit the broad side of a barn
tcdog70
03-08-2025, 12:41 PM
Hub s defense is killing us
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 12:50 PM
Even I have to admit that's a terrible call against Arky on the Hubbard shot. But all gifts are kindly accepted.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 12:51 PM
Hub s defense is killing us
Has been all year; he is lazy on D. It leads to most open 3s when help has to come over.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 12:52 PM
Strong move by Harris
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 12:53 PM
Defense sucks; we'd be up big if we play some.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 12:54 PM
This color commentator dude is on my last nerve.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 12:55 PM
Has been all year; he is lazy on D. It leads to most open 3s when help has to come over.
Seems as if we've abandoned defense as our brand.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 01:01 PM
Looking like we peaked waaaaayyy too early this season. It also looks like mizzou did too... they're sorta falling apart
msstate7
03-08-2025, 01:01 PM
Seems as if we've abandoned defense as our brand.
I have a feeling we will put a premium on D in the portal this offseason.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:02 PM
Good thing Thiero is not playing. Game probably will hinge on who can stay out of further foul trouble the most.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:06 PM
Looking like we peaked waaaaayyy too early this season. It also looks like mizzou did too... they're sorta falling apart
No doubt. Mizzou has gone off the rails since the Alabama win.
PGHBulldogBG
03-08-2025, 01:13 PM
Losing 4 of the last 5 is a bad look going into the tournament and last year we lost the final 5
Bdawg
03-08-2025, 01:20 PM
Everything about the 3 point line and our basketball team sucks
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:24 PM
Everything about the 3 point line and our basketball team sucks
We steadfastly persist nonetheless, so we got that going for us. *****
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:26 PM
We are just not a good basketball team when measured against real good teams.
We have given them a +13 difference coming out at half.
We just are not good. Calipari will continue to punk us.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:27 PM
For the 200th time this season, the team we play kick it out and then we close out late on the 2nd pass. Drains the 3.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:27 PM
This team is unfortunately finished. We will probably end up either a 9 or 10 seed and lose in the 1st round. Just a really disappointing finish to the season.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:29 PM
+16 now. we refuse to play basketball.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:30 PM
This team is unfortunately finished. We will probably end up either a 9 or 10 seed and lose in the 1st round. Just a really disappointing finish to the season.
No doubt. we are a first weekend team. We just are not good at offense or defense. Its our entire scheme and our execution. I have zero faith we will win a single game in the tourney.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:30 PM
Not over yet but this truly is embarrassing.
CaptainObvious
03-08-2025, 01:31 PM
Really good Arkansas team. They may be the best team in the SEC and maybe in the entire country!!! Our pipsqueaks are way out matched by these professionals. Arkansas could be in the NBA! They are THAT good!
Did I do that right?
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:32 PM
Alright. Can we play defense? Damn.
civildawg
03-08-2025, 01:33 PM
Jans continuing to show how average he is. I honestly hope he leaves. He's done a terrible job with this team.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:33 PM
I gave Jans a B in coaching and our team a D for defense in my report card. I will go down a letter on both. This has been his worst coaching job since he has been here. We are again going to let a team score 80+ on us. It has happened 11 times this year. That happened 9 times in the previous two years combined.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:34 PM
Not over yet but this truly is embarrassing.
Its over. Hold up. Our first stop of the entire second half.
Turfdawg67
03-08-2025, 01:34 PM
We are MS Stake…
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:34 PM
Every single game, we run into a RAT.
Why? Because we are not good.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:35 PM
We are just terrible. Not a tourney team at all. Bottom feeder in SEC. We going to lose 4 in row to close season. We had what 2 decent wins all year and then 2 from OM. That is it.
basedog
03-08-2025, 01:35 PM
They have just quit. Sad to watch.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:35 PM
Jans continuing to show how average he is. I honestly hope he leaves. He's done a terrible job with this team.
If he leaves: Hubbard leaves, Warren leaves, and Murphy leaves.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:36 PM
Jans continuing to show how average he is. I honestly hope he leaves. He's done a terrible job with this team.
I want Calipari. I hate the guy, but dammit I want a team that can make it to the 2nd weekend of the tourney.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:36 PM
80% shooting by Ark in second
civildawg
03-08-2025, 01:37 PM
And? I mean those guys are the ones letting Arkansas take it to them and under .500 in sec play.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:37 PM
That's gotta be Cam's third attempt at least from three??!!!?? Does Jans have any control of this team left??!!??
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:37 PM
Can we for once tighten up the defense on 3. Like get in their jock. I don't care if we give up drives.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:37 PM
I want Calipari. I hate the guy, but dammit I want a team that can make it to the 2nd weekend of the tourney.
That ain't been Cal lately.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:38 PM
That's gotta be Cam's third attempt at least from three??!!!?? Does Jans have any control of this team left??!!??
That was Kugal.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:38 PM
That's gotta be Cam's third attempt at least from three??!!!?? Does Jans have any control of this team left??!!??
No, He lost this team a month ago.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:38 PM
That ain't been Cal lately.
Still whipping our ass. Mark my words, we won't beat Ark until he leaves.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:39 PM
They have just quit. Sad to watch.
We ain't played with a give a shit in a month.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:39 PM
No, He lost this team a month ago.
The day we got sprayed in the face by Missouri.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:40 PM
Still whipping our ass. Mark my words, we won't beat Ark until he leaves.
May be but that wasn't your argument - 2nd weekend of tourney Cal. That is why UK canned him.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:40 PM
The day we got sprayed in the face by Missouri.
Sure seemed like it.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:40 PM
Jans is going to have to get really uncomfortable this offseason because he is going to need to fire some assts that have been with him for a long time. Our scouting is terrible, our recruiting is in need of an overhaul since we still have not recruited a knock down shooter in 3 years, and our defense has been downright god awful this year.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:41 PM
The day we got sprayed in the face by Missouri.
It was the Kentucky game. Just like last year. We have not been right since.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:43 PM
We give Kugel a lot of crap, and most of it is deserved, but at least he will attack the basket. Everyone else just seems scared shitless. Heck that is the only reason Matthews needs to be playing other than defense.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:43 PM
That was Kugal.
It was Cam and was his third three attempt of the game.
Bdawg
03-08-2025, 01:45 PM
Every single game, we run into a RAT.
Why? Because we are not good.
Exactly. I know what RAT means but what is the acronym stand for? I forget.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 01:45 PM
It was Cam and was his third three attempt of the game.
It was Cam. He has been terrible since about January. He really does not need to be playing anymore. Unfortunately, he has to unless we want to play Jones 35 minutes.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 01:46 PM
Jans is going to have to get really uncomfortable this offseason because he is going to need to fire some assts that have been with him for a long time. Our scouting is terrible, our recruiting is in need of an overhaul since we still have not recruited a knock down shooter in 3 years, and our defense has been downright god awful this year.
Zac needs to create some tension with this staff including the head coach.
Bdawg
03-08-2025, 01:49 PM
We give Kugel a lot of crap, and most of it is deserved, but at least he will attack the basket. Everyone else just seems scared shitless. Heck that is the only reason Matthews needs to be playing other than defense.
I mostly see drive halfway to the basket, pickup the dribble, pivot around, and kick out and start over. And now we on an 11-0 run! Ha. Let’s see if we can steal one.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:50 PM
They have made a push. But it won't last. On the road. Ark is about to put it away.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:50 PM
It was Cam. He has been terrible since about January. He really does not need to be playing anymore. Unfortunately, he has to unless we want to play Jones 35 minutes.
Yeah I don't know what happened to Cam. He would dominate every game now he just disappears on both ends much of the game.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:51 PM
They have made a push. But it won't last. On the road. Ark is about to put it away.
Probably what happens. That 3 by Harris was huge for a chance.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:51 PM
We ain't won a game when other team scores 85 so don't look good.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:54 PM
Just like that Cam shows up
parabrave
03-08-2025, 01:55 PM
At least we remembered how to play defense.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:56 PM
that was not a foul
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:56 PM
We missed like 3 FT in a row.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:56 PM
2 minutes left. who wants it?
I want Kugal to shoot the ball, if we are taking a jumper
parabrave
03-08-2025, 01:57 PM
Big shot Melendez.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:57 PM
Can we finish?
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:57 PM
1:23 left. Who wants it more?
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:58 PM
They drain the last what feels like 10 free throws. We need to hit some.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 01:58 PM
Probably ballgame
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 01:59 PM
They should get an open look coming out of this timeout. That is Coach Cal does. Hope they miss and we get the rebound.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:00 PM
Whoever takes the lead next is probably going to win. We will see.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:00 PM
89 points allowed. <sigh>
'The Dentist' nickname is hereby suspended until further notice.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 02:00 PM
Ballgame. We are so cursed as a program.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:00 PM
Not much you can do about that one. Great shot and good defense.
Quaoarsking
03-08-2025, 02:01 PM
Does anyone ever miss a big shot against us?
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:01 PM
Jeez/
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:01 PM
Alright. Got to be a clean look at 3 or a quick 2.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:02 PM
Big shot there Hubbard.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:02 PM
That was a big time shot as well. 2-13 heading into that shot. Hubbard buries it.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:03 PM
If we play this right, we get the ball last. Let's do it. Dagger to win it. Let's go. One steal away, one tipped ball, one block. Lets go.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 02:05 PM
Get a gift miss and can't get a RB
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:05 PM
Wow, gave up an open layup, and then didn't rebound. Damn.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:05 PM
Dam ref just give them another free TO/
Bdawg
03-08-2025, 02:05 PM
Shot clock gives them free timeout
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 02:05 PM
They win on last shot or we lose in OT.
Only thing in OT is Hogs in foul trouble, need to foul them out if we get OT
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 02:06 PM
Now we still got a shot.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:06 PM
We have an opportunity, just get the stop first. Go man to man.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:07 PM
Well they gave us more time on the game shot where we get the last shot.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:07 PM
Good foul/
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:08 PM
One opportunity. Lets see.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:08 PM
Wow. Missed a point blank shot. Open for the win.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:08 PM
Why didn't Hubb take the final Shot.
mparkerfd20
03-08-2025, 02:09 PM
**** this team
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 02:09 PM
Suck ass ending. Kugell never should have had the ball. Hubbard shot or dish for the win.
Quaoarsking
03-08-2025, 02:09 PM
Cam Matthews was 8-10 in all 5 of his seasons.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:09 PM
Well they actually surprised me.
Lord McBuckethead
03-08-2025, 02:11 PM
Suck ass ending. Kugell never should have had the ball. Hubbard shot or dish for the win.
I didn't mind kugell having the rock there. hubbard was covered up obviously. You have to drive and look for an open shot.
Dawgology
03-08-2025, 02:12 PM
This team is toast in the first round of the NCAA tourney. Loss by 15+ whoever we play. They are cooked
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:13 PM
We played true to form for the latter part of the season.
AROB44
03-08-2025, 02:15 PM
This team is toast in the first round of the NCAA tourney. Loss by 15+ whoever we play. They are cooked
Love how our "fans" back our teams.
StarkVegasSteve
03-08-2025, 02:15 PM
If we would not have dug ourselves such a damn hole, we win that one easily.
CaptainObvious
03-08-2025, 02:16 PM
I didn't mind kugell having the rock there. hubbard was covered up obviously. You have to drive and look for an open shot.
I think if you look back on games where we lost on a missed shot at the buzzer, Kugel was the one trying to win it. He has a "I want to be the hero" Gene in him.
PGHBulldogBG
03-08-2025, 02:16 PM
I?ve kind of just accepted that we will check the box that we made the tournament again. It definitely is better than we are used to but we just spiral at the end of the year and that is concerning. The Texas loss was just horrible at home and that should not have happened.
maroonmania
03-08-2025, 02:16 PM
I've come to despise basketball. Refs give them 2 free throws for the win on a non-foul foul and then we have a point blank shot for the win at the buzzer and miss. Just another massive gut punch to follow up the Texas game.
Dawgology
03-08-2025, 02:18 PM
Love how our "fans" back our teams.
Meh. They are entertainment. At some point all the losses and letdowns in every program becomes not entertaining. Mismanagement, lack luster recruiting, etc. meh.
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:20 PM
If we would not have dug ourselves such a damn hole, we win that one easily.
Yup. We looked almost lifeless until deep in the second half.
Goldendawg
03-08-2025, 02:22 PM
Suck ass ending. Kugell never should have had the ball. Hubbard shot or dish for the win.
I disagree, tough way to lose it but Hubbard was 4-14 in this game as usual with his volume shooting. He is also a tremendous disability on defense and big reason we give up about 90 points a game. You cannot tell me that there is not dissension on this team as he has taken over 100 more shots than the next closest player. We are now 6-10 in our last 16 games and don't look like they even enjoy playing together. I can't blame them with a scheme of Hubbard being the center of the offense and getting his win or lose, with most of them losses recently.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 02:23 PM
This team is toast in the first round of the NCAA tourney. Loss by 15+ whoever we play. They are cooked
Bold prediction... I'll take us +10 for $100
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:23 PM
Love how our "fans" back our teams.
Fans are allowed to be dissatisfied with their team's performance, especially when it's become a pattern and is happening against inferior teams like today. It doesn't make them lesser fans.
maroonmania
03-08-2025, 02:24 PM
We can't beat Calipari anyway.
parabrave
03-08-2025, 02:26 PM
I disagree, tough way to lose it but Hubbard was 4-14 in this game as usual with his volume shooting. He is also a tremendous disability on defense and big reason we give up about 90 points a game. You cannot tell me that there is not dissension on this team as he has taken over 100 shots than the next closet player. We are now 6-10 in our last 16 games and don't look like they even enjoy playing together. I can't blame them with a scheme of Hubbard being the center of the offense and getting his win or lose, with most losses recently.
True about Hubb from 3 but when he drives he almost always get the basket or fouled and he is dam near perfect from the foul line. Still those shots should have been made.
maroonmania
03-08-2025, 02:26 PM
Fans are allowed to be dissatisfied with their team's performance, especially when it's become a pattern and is happening against inferior teams like today. It doesn't make them lesser fans.
We finished the year losing to OK, TX and Ark and 4 of the final 4 SEC games. Are the fans supposed to be throwing out compliments?
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:32 PM
If we had opened the second half with any kind of energy at all, we probably win handily. One of the most confounding teams we've ever had. Very frustrating.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 02:32 PM
We finished the year losing to OK, TX and Ark and 4 of the final 4 SEC games. Are the fans supposed to be throwing out compliments?
I don't see anyone throwing out compliments, but "we will lose by 15+ guaranteed" seems extreme. Those 3 losses are by 13 combined
EdwardDrayton
03-08-2025, 02:33 PM
I don't see anyone throwing out compliments, but "we will lose by 15+ guaranteed" seems extreme. Those 3 losses are by 13 combined
Yes that was extreme but understand the frustration from which it emanates.
chef dixon
03-08-2025, 02:42 PM
Those 3 losses are against the caliber teams we are going to face round 1. Our luck will flip at some point I hope
maroonmania
03-08-2025, 02:45 PM
I don't see anyone throwing out compliments, but "we will lose by 15+ guaranteed" seems extreme. Those 3 losses are by 13 combined
Whatever, we also won some close games. Bottom line is we finished 6-10 in our last 16 games and only 2-10 against anyone not named OM or SC. Just a very disappointing season given what this team could have done.
I do agree folks saying we will lose by 15+ is extreme. I missed the comment.
Dawgology
03-08-2025, 04:21 PM
I don't see anyone throwing out compliments, but "we will lose by 15+ guaranteed" seems extreme. Those 3 losses are by 13 combined
Is it extreme? We will probably be a 10 - 12 seed meaning we will play against 5-7 seed. On a neutral floor. We will get stomped per usual. If Lunardi’s predictions are close we will be in Indianapolis probably playing Clemson, Marquette or UCLA. We will get beat handily.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 06:33 PM
I disagree, tough way to lose it but Hubbard was 4-14 in this game as usual with his volume shooting. He is also a tremendous disability on defense and big reason we give up about 90 points a game. You cannot tell me that there is not dissension on this team as he has taken over 100 more shots than the next closest player. We are now 6-10 in our last 16 games and don't look like they even enjoy playing together. I can't blame them with a scheme of Hubbard being the center of the offense and getting his win or lose, with most of them losses recently.
Hubbard draws a double team and someone is open or he can hit the big shot. He just hit the big 3 on previous shot to put us ahead. I don't care if Hub had a bad shooting night, he is the guy.
The team losses are just that team - no one has played well all year. If not for Hub late season, we'd been embarrassed several more times.
R2Dawg
03-08-2025, 06:35 PM
Whatever, we also won some close games. Bottom line is we finished 6-10 in our last 16 games and only 2-10 against anyone not named OM or SC. Just a very disappointing season given what this team could have done.
I do agree folks saying we will lose by 15+ is extreme. I missed the comment.
4-10 not OM or SC
Should have beat UK, Bama and TX at home and OK and Ark on road. That is 5 more wins. Do that and we feel pretty good about year. Just 3 of those games and we feel good.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 06:38 PM
4-10 not OM or SC
Going by current standings...
1-4: 0-5
5-8: 3-2
9-12: 2-1
13-16: 3-2
maroonmania
03-08-2025, 07:30 PM
4-10 not OM or SC
Should have beat UK, Bama and TX at home and OK and Ark on road. That is 5 more wins. Do that and we feel pretty good about year. Just 3 of those games and we feel good.
We are 6-10 in our last 16 SEC games. But yea, it's technically 3-10 against anyone other than OM or SC because one of our wins against SC was in our first two conference game of the year. And yes, there are other wins we could have had but other losses as well. We won @ GA by 1, @ SC in OT,, OM at home in OT.. We had actually been good in the really tight ones in conference until the last two. But we don't really make any big shots or FTs at the end of games to win. The close ones we've won we had a lead and were trying to hold on at the end.
CarolinaDawgs
03-08-2025, 07:56 PM
Anybody wanna take a guess at the 3pt % for Ark?? If you guess below 40% you need help.
msstate7
03-08-2025, 08:11 PM
Anybody wanna take a guess at the 3pt % for Ark?? If you guess below 40% you need help.
No idea why we stink so bad at defending 3s, but I'm gonna chalk it up to bad season. Last year, we were #1 defending the 3 in the sec, and we were 6th two seasons ago. For whatever reason, we are horrible at this season, but I will say it has to some luck for our opponents. I've said it over and over, but I will again... I watch 80% of grizzlies games, and nba teams don't hit open 3s anywhere close to the level they hit vs us.
PGHBulldogBG
03-08-2025, 08:19 PM
I am trying to just do a reset. It ended bad but let?s look at this realistically. We were picked 10th in the SEC preseason and the biggest bubble team. We are a lock and finished 10th. Let?s see how things play out come tournament time. I really hope we get Houston as our 1 seed because UF Duke and Auburn would be nightmares. At least Houston isn?t a good shooting team compared to the rest and could give us a small chance
msstate7
03-08-2025, 08:22 PM
I am trying to just do a reset. It ended bad but let?s look at this realistically. We were picked 10th in the SEC preseason and the biggest bubble team. We are a lock and finished 10th. Let?s see how things play out come tournament time. I really hope we get Houston as our 1 seed because UF Duke and Auburn would be nightmares. At least Houston isn?t a good shooting team compared to the rest and could give us a small chance
I would be thrilled with just finishing with the following...
Beat lsu and Missouri
Win 1 game and don't be embarrassed in round 2
Goldendawg
03-08-2025, 08:51 PM
4-10 not OM or SC
Should have beat UK, Bama and TX at home and OK and Ark on road. That is 5 more wins. Do that and we feel pretty good about year. Just 3 of those games and we feel good.
Our last three losses of our four game losing streak have been to OK, TX and AR who were at the time very low in the SEC standings and we were favored in all three I think. I sit on row four with a friend looking at the goal at home games. Hubbard can't help being about 5'!0" but he is usually a real mismatch on "D" which contributes to us giving up about 90 or so per game recently. Someone posted his shooting % in the last 8 or so games and it hasn't been good in the majority. I feel the lack of a point guard and him having to play it is also bad. He should be the two, shooting guard. It is what it is.
Goldendawg
03-08-2025, 09:12 PM
If he leaves: Hubbard leaves, Warren leaves, and Murphy leaves.
I want Jans and all three of these players back next year, all of these leaving and continuing to build around Hubbard forced to play out of position at point guard and being stubborn with the same doomed defensive scheme doubling the post and being about last defending the three in all the NCAA would bring about the same results no matter what college where the four of them were hypothetically together. Yes, I remember the Rick Ray disaster, but we are now 8-10 in the SEC regular season for three consecutive years under Jans with Howland's guys year one and two or so and now his revamped portal bunch with a few holdovers this season. Only winning the first game in the NCAA will show improvement or maybe even two games here in year three. Maybe this team was over rated. Kugel and Melendez weren't the 3 point shooters to take pressure off Hubbard and Clary may well have been a bad fit at State just as he was at Penn State(?). 6-10 last 16 games and recently giving up 90 ppg or so? Something is wrong with this "team". JMO.
StarkVegasSteve
03-10-2025, 08:24 AM
I want Jans and all three of these players back next year, all of these leaving and continuing to build around Hubbard forced to play out of position at point guard and being stubborn with the same doomed defensive scheme doubling the post and being about last defending the three in all the NCAA would bring about the same results no matter what college where the four of them were hypothetically together. Yes, I remember the Rick Ray disaster, but we are now 8-10 in the SEC regular season for three consecutive years under Jans with Howland's guys year one and two or so and now his revamped portal bunch with a few holdovers this season. Only winning the first game in the NCAA will show improvement or maybe even two games here in year three. Maybe this team was over rated. Kugel and Melendez weren't the 3 point shooters to take pressure off Hubbard and Clary may well have been a bad fit at State just as he was at Penn State(?). 6-10 last 16 games and recently giving up 90 ppg or so? Something is wrong with this "team". JMO.
None of that is wrong. No one is wrong to think that Jans has done a bad job this year. I think if you asked him he'd say the same thing. But here's the facts, from 2008-2019 we made the tournament twice. And would've only made it once had it not been for a miracle run through the SEC tournament. We lost both times in the first round. We haven't won a game in the tournament since Charles Rhodes erupted on Oregon in March of 08. We are about to make our 3rd straight tournament, something we haven't done since we made 4 straight from 01-02 to 04-05. It's ok to be ticked off with how we ended the season. It's ok to want more. You should as a fan base. But it also needs to be said that we're a hell of a lot better and more consistent than we've been in a very long time.
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