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cheewgumm
03-01-2025, 12:55 PM
I?m all for giving him a break get it together, but he has to hit too.

cheewgumm
03-01-2025, 12:56 PM
Sorry should have put under current thread

Pinto
03-01-2025, 02:25 PM
How many strikeouts and rollovers is he? Especially with runners in scoring position?

cheewgumm
03-01-2025, 02:30 PM
I get that, but hopefully this is temporary and he gets back to productivity

msstate7
03-01-2025, 02:42 PM
I agree. I'd like Hunter to get right and make lemonis keep him in the lineup

Coursesuper
03-01-2025, 03:11 PM
Nope, we are a better team with him watching. We have lacked the depth to replace him in years past. Now we have the depth to move on.

DawgFromOxford
03-01-2025, 03:16 PM
Nope, we are a better team with him watching. We have lacked the depth to replace him in years past. Now we have the depth to move on.

Maybe but if his bat comes around his defense has been top notch to start the season

MetEdDawg
03-01-2025, 03:52 PM
He gets the bench again today it looks like.

I'm shocked. Thought Lemonis would pencil him in. But I'm ok with it. He's a hole in our lineup right now.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 03:54 PM
I get that, but hopefully this is temporary and he gets back to productivity


I agree. I'd like Hunter to get right and make lemonis keep him in the lineup

Often times the bench is one of the best motivators.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 03:55 PM
Nope, we are a better team with him watching. We have lacked the depth to replace him in years past. Now we have the depth to move on.

I would say the odds of Hines getting back into the lineup at some point are very high.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 03:58 PM
He gets the bench again today it looks like.

I'm shocked. Thought Lemonis would pencil him in. But I'm ok with it. He's a hole in our lineup right now.

I'm not. Lemonis needs to get his point across. Hines is either putting too much pressure on himself or he is being a selfish player. I don't know which is which or if it is a combination of the two.

If it's too much pressure the hopefully Hines sees that we have others who can play and step up and therefore we don't need him to hit a baseball 500 feet every time up.

If it's a being selfish issue then we are showing him that he is going to have to be a team player to play.

Coursesuper
03-01-2025, 03:59 PM
I would say the odds of Hines getting back into the lineup at some point are very high.

Odds are also high that he is exactly the same hitter he has been since he stepped on campus.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 04:03 PM
Odds are also high that he is exactly the same hitter he has been since he stepped on campus.

That may be but if that happens he will sit again. He would be incredibly dumb to do that as I am 100% sure that Lemonis and Gautreau are going to work with him and make it very clear what he has to do to get back in the lineup. His Dad was a great hitter in college and that's sort of what is so confusing about this whole situation to me because I find it hard to believe that his Dad is teaching him to pull everything.

Coursesuper
03-01-2025, 04:15 PM
That may be but if that happens he will sit again. He would be incredibly dumb to do that as I am 100% sure that Lemonis and Gautreau are going to work with him and make it very clear what he has to do to get back in the lineup. His Dad was a great hitter in college and that's sort of what is so confusing about this whole situation to me because I find it hard to believe that his Dad is teaching him to pull everything.

I?m not gonna try to read any more into it than what the kid has shown. He has been unable or unwilling to adapt and it?s hurting the team, period. For the past couple of years there was not another choice and now we have options. What his daddy did or does has zero relevance to the current situation. We shouldn?t care if his daddy was Babe Ruth, this one is a hole in the lineup right now.

bulldogcountry1
03-01-2025, 08:14 PM
I see the same selfish pull hitter who can?t reach anything on the outer half. He?s never in a hitter?s count because he?s so predictable.

cheewgumm
03-01-2025, 08:27 PM
I think he?s in a A little slump.

I see people saying he has the wrong approach.

It?s not like his approach has been unsuccessful. Quite the opposite.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 08:47 PM
I?m not gonna try to read any more into it than what the kid has shown. He has been unable or unwilling to adapt and it?s hurting the team, period. For the past couple of years there was not another choice and now we have options. What his daddy did or does has zero relevance to the current situation. We shouldn?t care if his daddy was Babe Ruth, this one is a hole in the lineup right now.

Who his Dad is is relevant in this situation since he is his hitting coach.

Coach34
03-01-2025, 09:29 PM
I think he?s in a A little slump.

I see people saying he has the wrong approach.

It?s not like his approach has been unsuccessful. Quite the opposite.

He was unsuccessful in 2024. He hit .260

Coach34
03-01-2025, 09:31 PM
Who his Dad is is relevant in this situation since he is his hitting coach.

His Dad was a better hitter but didnt have as much power altho had solid power...He simply wont go the other way. and that is a killa

Coursesuper
03-01-2025, 09:42 PM
He was unsuccessful in 2024. He hit .260

The more book teams have on him the better they will approach him as have clearly been seeing. They attack his weaknesses without much hesitation.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 11:28 PM
His Dad was a better hitter but didnt have as much power altho had solid power...He simply wont go the other way. and that is a killa

Yes. It's actually a bit bizarre to me. His Dad had a completely different approach as a player. And had a lot of success with it.

And it's not just going the other way. There is nothing wrong with a line drive single. That in and of itself would have beaten Troy if he had done that once in the game.

Offshore Dawg
03-02-2025, 08:15 AM
Yes. It's actually a bit bizarre to me. His Dad had a completely different approach as a player. And had a lot of success with it.

And it's not just going the other way. There is nothing wrong with a line drive single. That in and of itself would have beaten Troy if he had done that once in the game.

Point well made.

StarkVegasSteve
03-02-2025, 09:25 AM
I suspect we see Hines today.

tcdog70
03-02-2025, 11:43 AM
Why not start by letting play against right handers. When he gets his mojo back play him everyday

EdwardDrayton
03-02-2025, 02:59 PM
The more book teams have on him the better they will approach him as have clearly been seeing. They attack his weaknesses without much hesitation.

Absolutely true. Even the right handers are pounding the outside half and then tying him up high and inside.

Coursesuper
03-02-2025, 04:54 PM
Oh no, our ?20 HR guy on the bench ? just faltered again with risp.

KOdawg1
03-02-2025, 10:20 PM
Our 20 HR guy on the bench is also a 30% K-er and the least clutch hitter I possibly have ever seen, so yeah I'm okay with leaving him on the bench for awhile.

Lord McBuckethead
03-03-2025, 07:57 PM
I?m all for giving him a break get it together, but he has to hit too.

20HRs? He went 0-5 with 4ks, with three of those looking and the other was a check swing. His only time he put the ball in play was when he somehow upper cutted and still rolled over a nice slow chopper to first.

Troy game it felt like he left 9 players on base himself.

He is zero HRs until he gets his swing back on plane, stops guessing at pitches when the guy throws 87 mph, and starts to hit line drives.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:56 AM
I'm amazed how quickly people are ready to sit him. And for what? None of the other 1 B guys will match his production, once he gets it going. He'll hit 280 and hit 20 HRs.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:57 AM
20HRs? He went 0-5 with 4ks, with three of those looking and the other was a check swing. His only time he put the ball in play was when he somehow upper cutted and still rolled over a nice slow chopper to first.

Troy game it felt like he left 9 players on base himself.

He is zero HRs until he gets his swing back on plane, stops guessing at pitches when the guy throws 87 mph, and starts to hit line drives.



He hit 16 last year and 22 the year before.

We are what,7 games in?

StateDawg44
03-04-2025, 09:34 AM
He hit 16 last year and 22 the year before.

We are what,7 games in?

Right. Not even in SEC play yet. Do you expect to see him all of a sudden turn it on when we start facing even better SEC pitching after he?s already been exposed by mid-major pitching.

Cooterpoot
03-04-2025, 10:02 AM
I?m all for giving him a break get it together, but he has to hit too.

This has been happening for a couple years now. It's not some slump, he's been figured out and hasn't been able to adjust.

Goldendawg
03-04-2025, 11:08 AM
This has been happening for a couple years now. It's not some slump, he's been figured out and hasn't been able to adjust.

Batting .200 right now. Has he started this slow in previous seasons?

KOdawg1
03-04-2025, 11:21 AM
This has been happening for a couple years now. It's not some slump, he's been figured out and hasn't been able to adjust.

Correct. This isn't just 11 games making this decision. He sucked last year and has continued to suck this year while making 0 adjustments. Want to get HH out? Throw him breaking balls away. He won't adjust. He'll either K, pop it up, or dribble it into the shift.

MBDawg601
03-04-2025, 11:24 AM
Line up is better without him. Let him start some mid week games to see if his mind is right - if it's not, he better get out the seeds and pom poms for the weekends.

Pancho
03-04-2025, 01:54 PM
He look like a large 9th grader who hasn't seen off speed

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:15 PM
I can?t reply to all the nonsensical things said in this thread.

Thinking Hines is essentially broken and figured out, is crazy. Especially after 7 games. Ludicrous.

EVERY year Rowdy Jordan started slow. Did they figure him out?

These other coaches and pitchers haven?t figure out shit .

Hines will be hitting bombs soon?

Guaranteed.

KOdawg1
03-04-2025, 03:16 PM
I can?t reply to all the nonsensical things said in this thread.

Thinking Hines is essentially broken and figured out, is crazy. Especially after 7 games. Ludicrous.

EVERY year Rowdy Jordan started slow. Did they figure him out?

These other coaches and pitchers haven?t figure out shit .

Hines will be hitting bombs soon?

Guaranteed.

It's not just 7 games. That's what you're failing to acknowledge.

Teams absolutely have figured him out. It's on him to adjust. He hasn't.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:16 PM
Hell, we?re gonna have to play him for defensive purposes.

Which of you called that?

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:18 PM
It's not just 7 games. That's what you're failing to acknowledge.

Teams absolutely have figured him out. It's on him to adjust. He hasn't.

He hit 16 HRs last year.

Who on our team is doing that this year?

KOdawg1
03-04-2025, 03:20 PM
He hit 16 HRs last year.

Who on our team is doing that this year?

And hit .250 and struck out 70 something times.

Homeruns are cool but it's not the only stat to look at.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:26 PM
He?ll definitely start ripping again.

Many of you cut bait way too quickly.

KOdawg1
03-04-2025, 03:29 PM
He?ll definitely start ripping again.

Many of you cut bait way too quickly.

Haven't cut bait. But he needs to ride the pine for awhile and it's not just because of 7 games.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 03:30 PM
Haven't cut bait. But he needs to ride the line for awhile and it's not just because of 7 games.

The guy who took his place had 3 errors in 2 games.


Does he need to sit ?

KOdawg1
03-04-2025, 03:35 PM
The guy who took his place had 3 errors in 2 games.


Does he need to sit ?
Did he have them at first base?

Mrs. Hines, it's okay. Your son will get another chance.

Coursesuper
03-04-2025, 03:45 PM
He?ll definitely start ripping again.

Many of you cut bait way too quickly.

Try to put it in these terms. There are 27 out for a team in a 9 inning game. Why would we continue to approach a game in which the other team only has to worry about getting 23 outs? That?s where we are. This is not 12 year old travel ball, the margins for winning and losing are very thin. How can we justify allowing Hines to continue to be an out when we have viable options that are productive right now?

Tbonewannabe
03-04-2025, 04:11 PM
He barely put the ball in play in the back half of last season. He is striking out at a crazy rate before we even see good to great pitching. He has proven from last year that he isn't hitting his way out of a slump.

The book on him is thick and consistent. He essentially is boom or bust. Make a mistake and throw it in his wheel house then he can yank it out to right field.

Pitch him like most people and he is a strike out or weak hit into the right field shift. He is very consistent.

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 04:49 PM
If this was all so clear down even last year?


Then our coaches should not have brought him back.

They damn sure should t have batted him clean up.

When he gets out of the slump I look forward to all the


? Glad I was wrong ?

DawgFromOxford
03-04-2025, 05:08 PM
If this was all so clear down even last year?


Then our coaches should not have brought him back.

They damn sure should t have batted him clean up.

When he gets out of the slump I look forward to all the


? Glad I was wrong ?

Looked up last years stats. Out of his 16 home runs, 10 were when no one was on base (in fairness, I don't know how this ratio compares to other players, maybe I'll look that up when I have more time). But I'll gladly trade a few less home runs for more productive run scoring at bats when people are on base.

Coach34
03-04-2025, 07:35 PM
Stallman and Frei are simply outplaying him right now. How do you justify sitting them?

Stallman already has 4 HR's in 24 AB's. I certainly think he could hit 15 or more this year

cheewgumm
03-04-2025, 09:03 PM
Stallman and Frei are simply outplaying him right now. How do you justify sitting them?

Stallman already has 4 HR's in 24 AB's. I certainly think he could hit 15 or more this year



I think this is a good argumnet and I'd agree. They should play if they are outplaying him.

I disagree that Hines is "done".

These other guys will cool off as well.

Cooterpoot
03-05-2025, 02:00 PM
He hit 16 HRs last year.

Who on our team is doing that this year?

Stallman, Sullivan, Frie possibly but those 16 HRs come with a shit ton of Ks and a low batting average with runners on and in general a low average for Hines.

Coach34
03-05-2025, 02:18 PM
Reese already has 5. Will be shocked if he doesnt get to 16

Coach34
03-05-2025, 02:29 PM
We hit 79 HR's last year. On pace for about 100 this year

Commercecomet24
03-05-2025, 04:39 PM
He barely put the ball in play in the back half of last season. He is striking out at a crazy rate before we even see good to great pitching. He has proven from last year that he isn't hitting his way out of a slump.

The book on him is thick and consistent. He essentially is boom or bust. Make a mistake and throw it in his wheel house then he can yank it out to right field.

Pitch him like most people and he is a strike out or weak hit into the right field shift. He is very consistent.

This. Last half of last season he was awful and a lot of his hrs were solos. He's currently striking out at 43% rate and he has 20% of our total strike outs, and almost 20% of our lob. You can't keep running that out there.

If you want to try and get him going let him hit some against podunks in the 8 or 9 hole and use him as a late inning defensive replacement.

Coursesuper
03-05-2025, 04:41 PM
This. Last half of last season he was and a lot of those hrs were solos. He's currently striking out at 43% rate and he has 20% of our total strike outs, and almost 20% of our lob. You can't keep running that out there.

If you want to try and get him going let him hit some against podunks in the 8 or 9 hole and use him as a late inning defensive replacement.

Absolutely.

StarkVegasSteve
03-05-2025, 04:41 PM
This. Last half of last season he was and a lot of those hrs were solos. He's currently striking out at 43% rate and he has 20% of our total strike outs, and almost 20% of our lob. You can't keep running that out there.

If you want to try and get him going let him hit some against podunks in the 8 or 9 hole and use him as a late inning defensive replacement.

Use him like Hatcher.

Commercecomet24
03-05-2025, 04:43 PM
Use him like Hatcher.

I concur.

KOdawg1
03-05-2025, 05:17 PM
Finally a pro AB from Hines. Didn't try to do too much. Shortened his swing. Didn't go the other way but it got the job done. Good AB.

EdwardDrayton
03-05-2025, 05:20 PM
Finally a pro AB from Hines. Didn't try to do too much. Shortened his swing. Didn't go the other way but it got the job done. Good AB.

Absolutely. That is what we've been looking for from him.

Pancho
03-05-2025, 09:43 PM
at least he in his first AB

Todd4State
03-06-2025, 12:52 AM
Hunter made some progress tonight. I hope he keeps doing it. If he does the home runs will come.

That's kind of the paradox of power hitting for me. If you are a great hitter and have the God given bat speed the home runs will come if you are a power hitter. Look at the batting average of guys like Ruth, Bonds, Aaron, Pujols, etc. and compare it to Dave Kingman and Joey Gallo and then look at how many home runs each of them hit.

EdwardDrayton
03-06-2025, 10:33 AM
Hunter made some progress tonight. I hope he keeps doing it. If he does the home runs will come.

That's kind of the paradox of power hitting for me. If you are a great hitter and have the God given bat speed the home runs will come if you are a power hitter. Look at the batting average of guys like Ruth, Bonds, Aaron, Pujols, etc. and compare it to Dave Kingman and Joey Gallo and then look at how many home runs each of them hit.

Yes he did. I only remember one pitch in his third at bat where the shoulder/hip were way too quick and he spun out. In his defense though it was a mean sweeping slider from the lefthander. Otherwise he did a good job of controlling the aggressive rotation, he was balanced with a good hitting posture and did pretty good squaring through the zone. Think some more ABs for it to become second nature and he's on to something.

Lord McBuckethead
03-06-2025, 09:50 PM
Thank you. I am not an mlb scout, but what was true last season is still true. Exactly what you said about breaking pitches.

Now if he would drive those opp field, he would average around .400 with way more extra base hits. And they wouldn?t be able to shift and pitch him outside.