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cheewgumm
02-27-2025, 01:06 AM
Power to left field

Let?s see it

Coursesuper
02-27-2025, 07:28 AM
Power to left field

Let?s see it

I think he's proven that he isn't willing to adjust his approach. He has had three full seasons and 4 off seasons to do that.

Pancho
02-27-2025, 07:30 AM
Had he done this prior, he wouldn't be here currently.

ZedFedder
02-27-2025, 07:41 AM
Hines swing is not conducive to going opposite, and it is a major weakness.

WinningIsRelentless
02-27-2025, 09:24 AM
Our dumbass fans don?t help the situation with the ?He Still Hates Baseballs? bs every time he hits a hr. It only fuels his ego more.

EdwardDrayton
02-27-2025, 12:24 PM
I think he's proven that he isn't willing to adjust his approach. He has had three full seasons and 4 off seasons to do that.

Absolutely true. He has shown that rare occasion of trying to be more of a hitter rather than a swinger and has shown he CAN do it. It's apparent he's just not willing for whatever reason.

BrunswickDawg
02-27-2025, 01:16 PM
Absolutely true. He has shown that rare occasion of trying to be more of a hitter rather than a swinger and has shown he CAN do it. It's apparent he's just not willing for whatever reason.

I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with being willing. Some of y'all act like players can just magically snap their fingers and "DO" something. Guys spend hours trying to train themselves to break habits like being a dead pull hitter. I know. I was there myself. I worked relentlessly on breaking it. Went to hitting camps. Hired a swing coach and worked everyday. I could hit in the cage and do it. I could do it in BP. Come game time, I could maybe effectively go up the middle or opo 10% of the time. And that's why y'all don't know my name - because otherwise I'd be just like Jon Shave or Tracy Echols or some other 90s MSU folk-hero dirt bag. That ability to "DO" something is the difference between all of us and Chipper Jones.

basedog
02-27-2025, 01:39 PM
He takes too many pitches, swings at bad pitches and gets behind the count way too much. If he would just shorten is stroke and concentrate on contact, way too many strikeouts. I wish him luck the rest of the season, I know it's not easy hitting ball but he looks clueless so many times at the plate.

EdwardDrayton
02-27-2025, 01:48 PM
I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with being willing. Some of y'all act like players can just magically snap their fingers and "DO" something. Guys spend hours trying to train themselves to break habits like being a dead pull hitter. I know. I was there myself. I worked relentlessly on breaking it. Went to hitting camps. Hired a swing coach and worked everyday. I could hit in the cage and do it. I could do it in BP. Come game time, I could maybe effectively go up the middle or opo 10% of the time. And that's why y'all don't know my name - because otherwise I'd be just like Jon Shave or Tracy Echols or some other 90s MSU folk-hero dirt bag. That ability to "DO" something is the difference between all of us and Chipper Jones.

We've seen enough to believe he is capable IMHO. He is not dedicated to the time and effort to change the habit. Changing something you've been doing your whole life is hard. Don't believe this is a capability issue in his case specifically though. We've seen him do it. He's just not committed to it.

Homedawg
02-27-2025, 03:46 PM
Absolutely true. He has shown that rare occasion of trying to be more of a hitter rather than a swinger and has shown he CAN do it. It's apparent he's just not willing for whatever reason.

I don't ever remember him hitting an oppo hr. Maybe he has and I forgot. He won't use the other side of the field period. And , his swing and miss rate at change ups is earth shattering

Homedawg
02-27-2025, 03:47 PM
We've seen enough to believe he is capable IMHO. He is not dedicated to the time and effort to change the habit. Changing something you've been doing your whole life is hard. Don't believe this is a capability issue in his case specifically though. We've seen him do it. He's just not committed to it.

When have we seen him do it??

EdwardDrayton
02-27-2025, 03:56 PM
When have we seen him do it??

Oh Lord, Home, I've never had eidetic memory. Just made a mental note that he attempted it in a couple of plate appearances. Don't even remember if he was successful or not. But it was worthy of note that he even attempted on a couple of rare occasions.

MoreCowbell
02-27-2025, 09:59 PM
I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with being willing. Some of y'all act like players can just magically snap their fingers and "DO" something. Guys spend hours trying to train themselves to break habits like being a dead pull hitter. I know. I was there myself. I worked relentlessly on breaking it. Went to hitting camps. Hired a swing coach and worked everyday. I could hit in the cage and do it. I could do it in BP. Come game time, I could maybe effectively go up the middle or opo 10% of the time. And that's why y'all don't know my name - because otherwise I'd be just like Jon Shave or Tracy Echols or some other 90s MSU folk-hero dirt bag. That ability to "DO" something is the difference between all of us and Chipper Jones.

Can understand not being able to do, it does not look like he even tries

Coach34
02-27-2025, 10:14 PM
He hit one double to LCF last season. Only big hit oppo I remember last season

MetEdDawg
02-28-2025, 06:27 AM
His approach is the currently the worst on the team and considering he's been here the longest, it's not a resounding positive for Gautreau.

He lets good fastballs go early in the count and chases breaking balls. He's constantly 0-2. He tries to pull everything. And he strikes out at a rate that is not ok for an experienced hitter like him.

I'm not going to say he single handedly lost us the Troy game, but 4 strikeouts and that many men LOB is a problem that lies squarely on him. They pitched around Sullivan to get to him multiple times. Time to look at a change if your most experienced hitter in the middle of your lineup is someone people want to face.

Cooterpoot
02-28-2025, 08:46 AM
We need fat Hines back. Since losing that weight, he's gone south. He's on the Lemonis diet of L's.

schddog72
02-28-2025, 05:58 PM
His approach is the currently the worst on the team and considering he's been here the longest, it's not a resounding positive for Gautreau.

He lets good fastballs go early in the count and chases breaking balls. He's constantly 0-2. He tries to pull everything. And he strikes out at a rate that is not ok for an experienced hitter like him.

I'm not going to say he single handedly lost us the Troy game, but 4 strikeouts and that many men LOB is a problem that lies squarely on him. They pitched around Sullivan to get to him multiple times. Time to look at a change if your most experienced hitter in the middle of your lineup is someone people want to face.

Well, he's getting an opportunity to shine the pine with the butt-side of his pants today. His uni won't need to be washed at all if Frei continues to kill it at the plante.

MetEdDawg
02-28-2025, 07:48 PM
Well, he's getting an opportunity to shine the pine with the butt-side of his pants today. His uni won't need to be washed at all if Frei continues to kill it at the plante.

Yeah the guy who replaced him in the field (Frei) went 3-5 with 2 RBI and the guys who took his spot in the lineup order (Stallman/Downs) went 2-3 with 3 RBI and a walk.

Interested to see what Lemonis decides to do. I imagine he starts tomorrow.

Coursesuper
02-28-2025, 09:01 PM
Yeah the guy who replaced him in the field (Frei) went 3-5 with 2 RBI and the guys who took his spot in the lineup order (Stallman/Downs) went 2-3 with 3 RBI and a walk.

Interested to see what Lemonis decides to do. I imagine he starts tomorrow.

If Lemonis starts him tomorrow and the usual happens, he?s done.

Coach34
02-28-2025, 09:10 PM
Unless we are facing a lefty- I start the same line-up

Lefty? I'd go Downs/Pulliam in LF and RF

Todd4State
02-28-2025, 09:16 PM
His approach is the currently the worst on the team and considering he's been here the longest, it's not a resounding positive for Gautreau.

He lets good fastballs go early in the count and chases breaking balls. He's constantly 0-2. He tries to pull everything. And he strikes out at a rate that is not ok for an experienced hitter like him.

I'm not going to say he single handedly lost us the Troy game, but 4 strikeouts and that many men LOB is a problem that lies squarely on him. They pitched around Sullivan to get to him multiple times. Time to look at a change if your most experienced hitter in the middle of your lineup is someone people want to face.

Having spoken to Gautreau about approach in general I'm 99% sure Hines is doing his own thing up at the plate.

The difference is last year we didn't have the depth in the lineup to bench him.

We do now.

The Federalist Engineer
02-28-2025, 10:30 PM
Are we sure his names in "Hines" and not "Hine"?

EdwardDrayton
03-01-2025, 12:49 AM
Are we sure his names in "Hines" and not "Hine"?

LOL! Well played Fed!!

MetEdDawg
03-01-2025, 01:08 PM
Having spoken to Gautreau about approach in general I'm 99% sure Hines is doing his own thing up at the plate.

The difference is last year we didn't have the depth in the lineup to bench him.

We do now.

If that's true, that's even more reason to be concerned about playing him.

You can't have his approach and be successful consistently at the plate.

He really seems to be the only one that doesn't look like they have an approach.

Todd4State
03-01-2025, 04:00 PM
If that's true, that's even more reason to be concerned about playing him.

You can't have his approach and be successful consistently at the plate.

He really seems to be the only one that doesn't look like they have an approach.

Absolutely.

And last year we had several guys that were bad at it. Two of the other big culprits have moved on.