Show the damn game and stop studio updating Game thread vs. Bammer

[Tater]

Jesus show your regularly scheduled programming not a ****in highlight of a game not on this channel mid the game you're supposed to air while it's in play.

[Tater]

Man if we ever grow up from eating crayons half the time on offense to just huffing glue a quarter of the time we'd be so good

[PGHBulldogBG]

Cam hits a 3 and then 3 turnovers in 4 minutes

[EdwardDrayton]

Kugel needs his scope re-calibrated.

[Bdawg]

I cut the game on and we miss badly on 2 WIDE open 3s and bama makes both of theirs.

[EdwardDrayton]

Man if we ever grow up from eating crayons half the time on offense to just huffing glue a quarter of the time we'd be so good

<slow clap>'

[CarolinaDawgs]

This team would be so nasty if they could shoot.

[mparkerfd20]

5 minutes in and I know the outcome. Seen this already multiple times. We lose by 24.

[LC Dawg]

This may get out of hand quickly.

[mparkerfd20]

I cut the game on and we miss badly on 2 WIDE open 3s and bama makes both of theirs.
Turned on same time and immediately back off. I'm not watching that shit show.

[MoreCowbell]

Is there anything that we do really well? Serious question

[Tater]

5 minutes in and I know the outcome. Seen this already multiple times. We lose by 24.

Hubbard is gonna score 30 with 15+ at the line. We'll finish losing by 7 and the FT disparity will be in our favor but we'll be down by 25+ at one point.

[Tater]

Is there anything that we do really well? Serious question

Strength of Schedule

[Bdawg]

Turned on same time and immediately back off. I'm not watching that shit show.

Same. Why subject myself to this?

[MoreCowbell]

Just looked, we lead the league in steals and we are 6th in rebounding. That is at least something

[Tater]

Same. Why subject myself to this?

I'm on the treadmill watching. If my heart rate is gonna be up then Imma lose weight while I do it. #ThanksState

[civildawg]

Not going to lie, I'm kind of over Jan's. I'm tired of seeing incompetent offense

[Tater]

Not going to lie, I'm kind of over Jan's. I'm tired of seeing incompetent offense

What can you do when the other team can be physical and guys forget how to make open shots.

[Bdawg]

I'm on the treadmill watching. If my heart rate is gonna be up then Imma lose weight while I do it. #ThanksState

Ha! Too bad I already worked out!

[civildawg]

It's not a coincidence that our players continuously can't make shots under Jans.

[Bdawg]

Not going to lie, I'm kind of over Jan's. I'm tired of seeing incompetent offense

We are hard to watch but at least we are a tournament team again. But that’s about it. Hopefully he can put a team together that can make a run one day. But as we know, things can be much much worse.

[Tater]

It's not a coincidence that our players continuously can't make shots under Jans.

Really cause it was a problem under the last guy. And the guy before that.

[msugolf]

Not going to lie, I'm kind of over Jan's. I'm tired of seeing incompetent offense

He will never win games in the tourney because it?s all about guard play and offense. And he wants to win with defense and beating teams up.

[ZedFedder]

I know this team is ranked right now, but at least the past two years we could hang our hats on defense. This team has neither.

[civildawg]

We can't even play good defense this year.

[mparkerfd20]

24 was generous. This shit show lose by 47 tonight.

[msugolf]

We are not a good basketball team. I dont care what anyone says

[civildawg]

We may get to 20 points before half. Screw Jans and this team. Go hire will wade

[MoreCowbell]

We have so many flaws. I had such high hopes for this team. Realize we have played a tough schedule but we have regressed significantly

[Tater]

This second half FT conga line we're gonna have is gonna be a joke. Tim Donaghy could do a better job of being 8 on 5. And it's stupid of them to call everything tic tac against us and nothing tic tac against them when we can't buy a 3.

I just want to have one sport where it feels like we got rocked fairly. Thats tolerable. But we don't even get that at home in women's soccer.

[parabrave]

Dam Jans should've saved the school the money and forfieted/ Total shitshow.

[msstate7]

We are not a good basketball team. I dont care what anyone says

AP, coaches, BPI, net,kenpom, etc say we are, but hey, you are you're probably smarter than all the metrics and voters. We are a good team. The problem is we are only good, not great... this conference offers no let up, and if you aren't playing well, you will lose. If you aren't playing well vs a top 4 team, you will lose bad.

[Tater]

They really just called a foul on Jones for them hitting themselves. Amazing.

Comeback engine is about to be activated.

[ZedFedder]

I think what is so frustrating for this team is the Jekyll and Hyde effect. You just never know what team is showing up.

[msugolf]

AP, coaches, BPI, net,kenpom, etc say we are, but hey, you are you're probably smarter than all the metrics and voters. We are a good team. The problem is we are only good, not great... this conference offers no let up, and if you aren't playing well, you will lose. If you aren't playing well vs a top 4 team, you will lose bad.

I am smarter than all the voters so you got that part right

[PGHBulldogBG]

We just need 1 more win to solidify our bid. My concern is where we find that win if we lose Saturday

[msstate7]

Bama is a terrible matchup for us for 2 reasons...

1. They're waaaayyyy more talented than us.
2. They only shoot 3s and in the paint - we have struggle immensely defending both this season.

Just take this butt kicking, regroup, and beat lsu Saturday

[LC Dawg]

I expected to lose by double digits but hoped we would look a little better than this.

[ZedFedder]

Gave up 11 threes in the first half. Sheeeesh.

[msstate7]

I am smarter than all the voters so you got that part right

And the metics... don't forget them.

No one watches much college basketball anymore, so it's easy to just see us get our brains beat out by a great team and say we suck. We don't suck, but we are in no way on par with bama

[EdwardDrayton]

What exactly is it again our coach does well?!??

[msstate7]

I expected to lose by double digits but hoped we would look a little better than this.

We were never winning this game unless they were shooting horribly. They aren't, so we aren't. Just embarrass the hell out of us, so hopefully we can take this as fuel to play well Saturday

[EdwardDrayton]

Bama is a terrible matchup for us for 2 reasons...

1. They're waaaayyyy more talented than us.
2. They only shoot 3s and in the paint - we have struggle immensely defending both this season.

Just take this butt kicking, regroup, and beat lsu Saturday

I get it 7 but this is beyond the pale. It's embarrassing.

[Tater]

At least none of us are banging our son's girlfriend. About all I can say for State tonight. At least we ain't ole miss.

[Tater]

What exactly is it again our coach does well?!??

Draws up open corner 3s - the best shot in basketball.

[EdwardDrayton]

At least none of us are banging our son's girlfriend. About all I can say for State tonight. At least we ain't ole miss.

Oh do tell. Are we talking head coach?!!?

[StateDawg44]

We are hard to watch but at least we are a tournament team again. But that’s about it. Hopefully he can put a team together that can make a run one day. But as we know, things can be much much worse.

I mean if just making the tournament is the goal the what?s the point? Not that that is what you said.

I?m just tired of hearing how this team is a tournament team. They?ll get bounced first round like last year.

This team is garbage.

[Tater]

Oh do tell. Are we talking head coach?!!?

Got a text the twitter main character today is a Srat OM girl banged her boyfriend's dad.

Lowkey if I’m miserable with my wife and my son is draining the bank account to get a communications degree from the 200th ranked school in the country I might teach him a lesson too and **** his girlfriend.

[msstate7]

I mean if just making the tournament is the goal the what?s the point? Not that that is what you said.

I?m just tired of hearing how this team is a tournament team. They?ll get bounced first round like last year.

This team is garbage.

Making the tourney is pretty tough. We've only made it 12 times since integration. 2 of those are by Jans. It will be 13 and 3 this season.

Do you think we should fire Jans?

[Tater]

I mean if just making the tournament is the goal the what?s the point? Not that that is what you said.

I?m just tired of hearing how this team is a tournament team. They?ll get bounced first round like last year.

This team is garbage.

Or the entire SEC + Dook ends up as 15/16 sweet 16 teams.

Worst part of this is that we've had to play nothing but SEC teams with SEC refs.

[Tater]

LOLOLOLOL NVM THESE REFS SAID WE LOSING BY 50

[LC Dawg]

****ing ref just watches the guy grab Cam's jersey.

[Tater]

Run a 5 man dogpile on all 3 refs and get ejected. Make those officials burn their money on medicals. Cant even stop themselves in 20+ point game. A joke

[Tater]

This is just ****ing pathetic. These guys don't even know how to do a good job of pretending they didn't get paid.

Focus early on calling tic tac on the best player on the other team - check.
Allow bodying and draymond moving / hold screens on offense. - check.
Allow horizonticality on defense up to 180 degrees early. - check.
Then you forget to smooth it out once the lead is insurmountable.

Donaghy can't believe he got caught and these guys are embarrassing to the game fixing job. Scott Foster is disgusted watching this.

[msstate7]

We lost by 32 at bama last season. Good grief, we cannot play with these guys at all there. Next season when we go there, just don't even practice... treat it like a bye. Damn

[EdwardDrayton]

The only real question left ........ did Alabama score enough points in the first half to win.

[msstate7]

Jans, tell them to pick that damn ball up... we want this game to end ASAP haha

[NCMSTFAN]

Embarrassing! We've been blown out too many times this year to be considered good. We got worse as the season has gone on

[EdwardDrayton]

We lost by 32 at bama last season. Good grief, we cannot play with these guys at all there. Next season when we go there, just don't even practice... treat it like a bye. Damn

Damn. You sound like Jans. *****

[Tater]

The only real question left ........ did Alabama score enough points in the first half to win.

I wouldn't think so but these Refs are idiots at smoothing it out. Or just that full of themselves that they don't need to do it for the school that had a gambling scandal what a year or two ago? Someone is about to have a big bag off -8.5

[EdwardDrayton]

Embarrassing! We've been blown out too many times this year to be considered good. We got worse as the season has gone on

Yup

[Tater]

Embarrassing! We've been blown out too many times this year to be considered good. We got worse as the season has gone on

We beat a top 10 (now top 15) team by double digits last week.

[EdwardDrayton]

We beat a top 10 (now top 15) team by double digits last week.

Sorry Tater. Single data points don't tell the tale.

[CarolinaDawgs]

I cannot believe i moved Cam into my top 5 dawgs earlier this year. He is by far the least skilled player ive ever been a fan of. He?s effin brutal


Also i wish we played defense like MS7 does for Jans


#BigGameJans strikes again

[msstate7]

Embarrassing! We've been blown out too many times this year to be considered good. We got worse as the season has gone on

The blow outs... at #5 Tenn, at #1 Auburn, #14 mizzou, and at #6 bama.

[Bdawg]

I cut back on for 5 mins only to see bama burn the nets again from 3. <cuts back off>

[CarolinaDawgs]

I 1000% am in on Jans but damn i got some wool pulled over my eyes. We are fine team and the adrenaline for 2 hours in March will be fun, but unless someone goes nuclear for us we are just a meh team. Which is fine. Just hate I drank the Koolaid cause i only feel permanent disappointment.

[CarolinaDawgs]

The blow outs... at #5 Tenn, at #1 Auburn, #14 mizzou, and at #6 bama.

DEFENSE CLAP CLAP DEFENSE CLAP CLAP

go off king (pssssst UGA just beat Florida at home) also you missed that blowout on your big board

[Tater]

Florida - lost @ unranked Georgia, lost by 20 to tennessee
Duke - lost to unranked clemson, kansas
Houston - lost to SDSU
Tennessee - lost by 30 to Florida, lost to vandy
Bama - lost by double digits to unranked OM and mizzou
St. John's - lost to unranked Nova, Creighton, Georgia, and Baylor
Sparty - lost to unranked Kansas, usc, ucla, indiana and Memphis
ISU - blown out by KSU and Kansas, lost to okie, WVU
Tech - lost to St. Joseph's, TCU, UCF

Auburn- the only good team in the top 10

[Tater]

DEFENSE CLAP CLAP DEFENSE CLAP CLAP

go off king (pssssst UGA just beat Florida at home) also you missed that blowout on your big board

Didn't we win @ UGA?

Or does that point only work for your argument and not against your argument?

[CarolinaDawgs]

To help 7 out we got the doors blown off us without auburns best player and one of floridas nbd

[CarolinaDawgs]

Didn't we win @ UGA?

Or does that point only work for your argument and not against your argument?

Dynamic win against 5-10 conference foe UGA

[CarolinaDawgs]

Didn't we win @ UGA?

Or does that point only work for your argument and not against your argument?

It does however speak to the depth of our league. So i feel you there

[Tater]

Sorry Tater. Single data points don't tell the tale.

Memphis.
OM X2
Blew out Vandy @ Vandy (which has great wins at home)

There's 360 teams in D1 and we struggles against the top 10-15.

Do the math on that real quick.

[msstate7]

I 1000% am in on Jans but damn i got some wool pulled over my eyes. We are fine team and the adrenaline for 2 hours in March will be fun, but unless someone goes nuclear for us we are just a meh team. Which is fine. Just hate I drank the Koolaid cause i only feel permanent disappointment.


DEFENSE CLAP CLAP DEFENSE CLAP CLAP

go off king (pssssst UGA just beat Florida at home) also you missed that blowout on your big board

I can't help your expectations were unrealistic. We were projected 10th in the sec. Jans is gonna make the tourney his 3rd straight time, which will be our 13th total since integration. He's a good coach that we should be thankful to have, but alas, we have a bunch of dummies as fans

[Tater]

Dynamic win against 5-10 conference foe UGA

Dynamic win against team who UF couldn't beat. We have a rock-paper-scissors triangle with UGA-UF and OM-Bama.

Would you trade 20 points from our two OM games to bank in 4 losses but all by single digits against OM and Bama?

[HoopsDawg]

Just tuning in. Did we decide not to guard Youngblood again? WTF?

[Tater]

I can't help your expectations were unrealistic. We were projected 10th in the sec. Jans is gonna make the tourney his 3rd straight time, which will be our 13th total since integration. He's a good coach that we should be thankful to have, but alas, we have a bunch of dummies as fans

I mean idk how anyone watches this and isn't disgusted at looking at the 8 on 5 of this more than our mistakes. I mean bama has 3 fouls this half.

[CarolinaDawgs]

I can't help your expectations were unrealistic. We were projected 10th in the sec. Jans is gonna make the tourney his 3rd straight time, which will be our 13th total since integration. He's a good coach that we should be thankful to have, but alas, we have a bunch of dummies as fans


I completely agree and am thankful. But your defense of him without criticism is just plain sad. I want better and i also think he can provide better. It?s not cut and dry like you think. There is some nuance to it bub

[Tater]

4 straight fouls called. Someone just realized they got caught up in the cheers and realized oh shit we ****ed up.

7-8 in Q1 btw is a quality team.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Memphis.
OM X2
Blew out Vandy @ Vandy (which has great wins at home)

There's 360 teams in D1 and we struggles against the top 10-15.

Do the math on that real quick.

Well we are only 10ish ranks behind them in your algorithm but they?re beating us like we are 200 behind them.. I?ll hang up and listen.

[msstate7]

I mean idk how anyone watches this and isn't disgusted at looking at the 8 on 5 of this more than our mistakes. I mean bama has 3 fouls this half.

We wouldn't have won if me and you were the refs, but I'm sure the sec does wanna protect bama for their next 3 massive games...
At Tenn
Florida
At Auburn

Damn, those are some great looking games.

[Tater]

Well we are only 10ish ranks behind them in your algorithm but they?re beating us like we are 200 behind them.. I?ll hang up and listen.

A win is a win and a loss is a loss. How much did SCar beat our women's by in the natty we lost to them? Don't remember do ya? It was a double digit loss so we must have been terrible to just beat UConn in OT by your logic.

[EdwardDrayton]

Memphis.
OM X2
Blew out Vandy @ Vandy (which has great wins at home)

There's 360 teams in D1 and we struggles against the top 10-15.

Do the math on that real quick.

That's kinda the point we're making. We have to reach back into December and the first half of January to find three of those. We are a trending regression.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We knew we were probably losing. So what does it matter if we lose by 5 or 55. Win on Saturday and next Tuesday and we are exactly where we need to be. 9-9.

[NCMSTFAN]

The blow outs... at #5 Tenn, at #1 Auburn, #14 mizzou, and at #6 bama.

I know the SEC is good but come on man, we should at least be competitive, my goodness this is embarrassing. Yes all of those teams are good but to be getting beaten as bad as we have in some of those games is plain ridiculous. Losing to Oklahoma didn't help either

[Tater]

We knew we were probably losing. So what does it matter if we lose by 5 or 55. Win on Saturday and next Tuesday and we are exactly where we need to be. 9-9.

Just wish it was football where we could throw a few punches and move on to the next one.

[NCMSTFAN]

That's kinda the point we're making. We have to reach back into December and the first half of January to find three of those. We are a trending regression.

Exactly!

[msstate7]

Blow out to Auburn. Won next game vs OM.
Blow out to Tenn. Won nexy game at South Carolina.
Blow out to mizzou. Won next game at Georgia.
Blow out to Florida. Won next game at OM.
Blow out to bama. Take care of business Saturday, dawgs

[Tater]

That's kinda the point we're making. We have to reach back into December and the first half of January to find three of those. We are a trending regression.

Ok and 2 of the data points are this month + we beat Georgia at Georgia which #3 couldn't do tonight this month so is that not a 3rd data point?

Like what the **** do y'all want? Undefeated? Go play ncaa basketball 10 on the ps3.

We're gonna make the dance. We've set a record for wins vs. AP top 25 teams. We're 7-8 vs. Q1. We have one horrendous loss to Butler this year back in November. Everything else is typical for a tournament team.

We have a real chance at closing out 3-0 into the SECT. Find your rhythm into March and all of a sudden you're cinderella. Open shots just gotta fall and all of a sudden we're in the sweet 16.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Bama plays at Tennessee on Saturday. They MIGHT make 5 threes.

[EdwardDrayton]

111 points allowed. <smh>

[ZedFedder]

You guys can fluff this up all you want, but we just gave up 22 threes and 111 points.

[Tater]

111 points allowed. <smh>

It's incredibly difficult to play defense when breathing is a foul on you but moving draymonds and holds aren't offensive fouls. The refs got so in the zone of not calling jersey tugs against bama on O that they forgot how blatant it looks to not call it on D.

I wish Keenum had the stones to tell Byrne to cut the shit or Bama will find itself struggling even worse than it already is in the NIL era.

At least their run in football is over. Welfare state gonna learn that letting real moneymaking states spend money gets them looking out of their tax bracket real fast.

[Tater]

You guys can fluff this up all you want, but we just gave up 22 threes and 111 points.

And we definitely legitly lost 24-0 @ Bama in football in 2018 and should have been embarrassed by that. Nothing unscrupulous there.

Can't wait to find out one of the officials tonight is a jax. state alum with a daddy who played for the bear.

[msstate7]

You guys can fluff this up all you want, but we just gave up 22 threes and 111 points.

We got smoked. We sucked. With that said, this is their 15th game this season to go over 90 points. It's their 5th sec game to over 100. They entered tonight's game avg'n 92.8 per game in February. They can score.

[CarolinaDawgs]

A win is a win and a loss is a loss. How much did SCar beat our women's by in the natty we lost to them? Don't remember do ya? It was a double digit loss so we must have been terrible to just beat UConn in OT by your logic.

I 100% remember how bad we got beat in that game. In fact that year i went to the SC v State womens game in Columbia where Vivians got fouled the final possession and nobody called it. Dont try that with me.

You were the one bringing up points and OM hypotheticals. Just used your logic against ya a bit. It?s ok happens to the best of em.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Blow out to Auburn. Won next game vs OM.
Blow out to Tenn. Won nexy game at South Carolina.
Blow out to mizzou. Won next game at Georgia.
Blow out to Florida. Won next game at OM.
Blow out to bama. Take care of business Saturday, dawgs

I expect to beat the teams in the right column. (OM wins are great but my hate for them expects wins)

When do we start not only expecting a win in the left column, but being competitive in those games?

[Tater]

I 100% remember how bad we got beat in that game. In fact that year i went to the SC v State womens game in Columbia where Vivians got fouled the final possession and nobody called it. Dont try that with me.

You were the one bringing up points and OM hypotheticals. Just used your logic against ya a bit. It?s ok happens to the best of em.

I mean by algorithms we should have lost to Aggy but beat kenneth pomegranate by ~20. This week we lost to Kendrick Pompeii by ~20.

But yea, you got me in logic bro. Every loss we have is horrendous and every win we have isn't that good because we beat that team. Great logic.

[Tater]

I expect to beat the teams in the right column. (OM wins are great but my hate for them expects wins)

When do we start not only expecting a win in the left column, but being competitive in those games?

Would you have traded 25 of our points against Aggy to tonight to make both losses look respectable?

[preachermatt83]

I 100% remember how bad we got beat in that game. In fact that year i went to the SC v State womens game in Columbia where Vivians got fouled the final possession and nobody called it. Dont try that with me.

You were the one bringing up points and OM hypotheticals. Just used your logic against ya a bit. It?s ok happens to the best of em.

I thought we lost to Notre dame in the national championship??

[CarolinaDawgs]

I mean by algorithms we should have lost to Aggy but beat kenneth pomegranate by ~20. This week we lost to Kendrick Pompeii by ~20.

But yea, you got me in logic bro. Every loss we have is horrendous and every win we have isn't that good because we beat that team. Great logic.

We are fighting like you think I want us to lose or do bad. I?m just sick of getting dog walked. The 20ish team in the nation should have some ability to be competitive in a Basketball game against anybody. I?m not mad in particular about anything, but if you can?t see the trend that we get skull bumped anytime we play one of these teams I can?t help you.

[CarolinaDawgs]

I thought we lost to Notre dame in the national championship??

Unfortunately brother we lost 2 in a row

[Tater]

We are fighting like you think I want us to lose or do bad. I?m just sick of getting dog walked. The 20ish team in the nation should have some ability to be competitive in a Basketball game against anybody. I?m not mad in particular about anything, but if you can?t see the trend that we get skull bumped anytime we play one of these teams I can?t help you.

I'm more just angry at everything that I can see biased officiating for what it is thanks to having it explained perfectly by Donaghy. I wish I could go back and never listen to him explain it.

Basketball just isn't fun when you see that shit happening. And it came right out the gate.

[StateDawg44]

Making the tourney is pretty tough. We've only made it 12 times since integration. 2 of those are by Jans. It will be 13 and 3 this season.

Do you think we should fire Jans?

Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.

Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.

[msstate7]

Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.

Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.

If you want us competing for a natty in MBK, you probably need to up your NIL bc our talent level isn't close to the elite in the sec

[msstate7]

I expect to beat the teams in the right column. (OM wins are great but my hate for them expects wins)

When do we start not only expecting a win in the left column, but being competitive in those games?

OM is a good team. Beating them was hardly a given. Hell, they won at bama. We literally beat a top 10 team last week. Our home game vs bama came down to a chances to tie/take lead

ETA... Georgia has beat St. John's, Kentucky, and Florida at home. Their only home losses are Auburn, mizzou, and us. That was a good win

[AROB44]

Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.

Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.

Well...Bless your pea picking heart.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Again, big whoop if that?s the goal is just to make it. I?m not gonna high five for making the tournament knowing we will crap the bed and not even be a factor in it.

Did I say we should fire Jans? Or even mention his name.

Some of y'all need to stop overinflating our status as a program. We've made it out of the first weekend THREE TIMES EVER. THREE. And one of those was when the field was only 25 teams. Oklahoma, who I don't think anyone would consider a basketball power, has done the same thing 11 times (5 times in the last 24 years). We've only made the tournament 12 times(since the field expanded past 25 teams), 13 after this year. So Chris Jans, who's been here for 3 years will account for almost 25% of our tournament appearances in school history.

So yes, we should set a goal to make the tournament. We're not some blue blood that should be expecting the S16 every year. If you get there, awesome. But don't crap on making the tournament because you overinflate a bunch of meaningless division championships in the mid 00s.

Also just for reference since some think we're a "basketball power". We have 6 SEC Regular season championships since 1960. LSU has 8. I don't think anyone thinks LSU is a basketball power.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also some food for thought for the Jans is mid crowd.

Kelvin Sampson Years 1-3 at Houston: 56-40(.583 winning percentage)
Kelvin Sampson Since at Houston: 232-43(.844 winning percentage)

Jans Years 1-3 at State: 61-36 (.629 winning percentage)


Jans will be just fine if he stays here. We need to be figuring out how to keep him, not constantly running him down. We were lucky as hell to hire him.

[StateDawg44]

Some of y'all need to stop overinflating our status as a program. We've made it out of the first weekend THREE TIMES EVER. THREE. And one of those was when the field was only 25 teams. Oklahoma, who I don't think anyone would consider a basketball power, has done the same thing 11 times (5 times in the last 24 years). We've only made the tournament 12 times(since the field expanded past 25 teams), 13 after this year. So Chris Jans, who's been here for 3 years will account for almost 25% of our tournament appearances in school history.

So yes, we should set a goal to make the tournament. We're not some blue blood that should be expecting the S16 every year. If you get there, awesome. But don't crap on making the tournament because you overinflate a bunch of meaningless division championships in the mid 00s.

Also just for reference since some think we're a "basketball power". We have 6 SEC Regular season championships since 1960. LSU has 8. I don't think anyone thinks LSU is a basketball power.


Trust me, my expectation of the status of the program isn't overinflated. Quite the opposite. I also never even hinted that we should be waltzing through the SEC this year or any other year.

I never expected to win yesterday. They did precisely what I did expect.

I think Jans is a good coach who struggles with offense. Something that he will have to fix to be successful no matter where he is at.

My expectations are to be let down by this basketball team. Plain and simple.

[StateDawg44]

Well...Bless your pea picking heart.

Celebrating finishing the year with a shot at not even being ranked in the top 30. Woo!

I guess it's better than Rick Ray

[StarkVegasSteve]

Trust me, my expectation of the status of the program isn't overinflated. Quite the opposite. I also never even hinted that we should be waltzing through the SEC this year or any other year.

I never expected to win yesterday. They did precisely what I did expect.

I think Jans is a good coach who struggles with offense. Something that he will have to fix to be successful no matter where he is at.

My expectations are to be let down by this basketball team. Plain and simple.

That's just depressing man. Like enjoy being in the tournament. Whether we're knocked out by 1 PM on Thursday or not, we got there. We didn't from 2010-2019. Or from 1964-1991. And again from 97-02. Enjoy actually having a team to root for when that bracket is revealed on Selection Sunday.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Celebrating finishing the year with a shot at not even being ranked in the top 30. Woo!

I guess it's better than Rick Ray

And Joe Dan Gold, Kermit Davis Sr., Ron Greene, Jim Hatfield, Bob Boyd, all but two years of Richard Williams, all but one year of Rick Stansbury, Rick Ray, and Ben Howland. So basically better than every coach of the modern era and the same as the 3 who made the NCAAT.

But besides that, dead same.

[Tater]

That's just depressing man. Like enjoy being in the tournament. Whether we're knocked out by 1 PM on Thursday or not, we got there. We didn't from 2010-2019. Or from 1964-1991. And again from 97-02. Enjoy actually having a team to root for when that bracket is revealed on Selection Sunday.

There's 351 losers in D1 basketball this year.

There's 1 winner.

You have to have an outrageous sense of self to be disappointed if we aren't that one. Enjoy the ****ing ride. We're good. And we've got a ticket. All it takes is getting hot for 6 games. We know that our BEST ball for six games is a championship contender.

Haven't been able to say that in 20 years.

And half the ****in idiots here are gonna be disappointed if we get bounced in the second round. Learn to enjoy the ride.

If you need to win the natty - play a video game.

[StateDawg44]

There's 351 losers in D1 basketball this year.

There's 1 winner.

You have to have an outrageous sense of self to be disappointed if we aren't that one. Enjoy the ****ing ride. We're good. And we've got a ticket. All it takes is getting hot for 6 games. We know that our BEST ball for six games is a championship contender.

Haven't been able to say that in 20 years.

And half the ****in idiots here are gonna be disappointed if we get bounced in the second round. Learn to enjoy the ride.

If you need to win the natty - play a video game.

No one said all or nothing. We will see how they do but this team isn?t fun to watch at all.

Sweet 16, Elite 8 or better are more than enough to cheer about. 54th meh.

[Pancho]

get Jans a team with bruce pearl talent and the results will indicate that we currently need better players. Jans ain't the issue

[AROB44]

No one said all or nothing. We will see how they do but this team isn?t fun to watch at all.

Sweet 16, Elite 8 or better are more than enough to cheer about. 54th meh.

Then don't watch.....

[StarkVegasSteve]

Then don't watch.....

I love when people use that excuse. I mean there is a pretty easy solution to the issue, just do not watch. Yet, those same people will be complaining the very next game.

[EdwardDrayton]

I love when people use that excuse. I mean there is a pretty easy solution to the issue, just do not watch. Yet, those same people will be complaining the very next game.

Absolutely nothing wrong with us fans expressing dissatisfaction and disappointment with the team's performance, especially when it falls short of even midline potential. And we'll be right back watching the next game hoping they rebound. I'm sure the players would be the first to admit that was an embarrassing performance.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Absolutely nothing wrong with us fans expressing dissatisfaction and disappointment with the team's performance, especially when it falls short of even midline potential. And we'll be right back watching the next game hoping they rebound. I'm sure the players would be the first to admit that was an embarrassing performance.

You're right. There's nothing wrong with it. However, our fans said for two years that we were boring to watch and they hated watching us because we couldn't score. Now we can score and they say we're awful to watch because the defense isn't as good.

They did the same thing with football. Mullen was boring to watch because all we did was run. Then Leach was boring to watch because we didn't throw deep. Now Lebby is bad to watch because we throw and throw deep but we need to run it more.

And guess what, baseball is the same thing. 2022 they were miserable because our pitching sucked. Now it's our hitting sucks.


Maybe our fans just love to bitch and can't be happy.

[EdwardDrayton]

You're right. There's nothing wrong with it. However, our fans said for two years that we were boring to watch and they hated watching us because we couldn't score. Now we can score and they say we're awful to watch because the defense isn't as good.

They did the same thing with football. Mullen was boring to watch because all we did was run. Then Leach was boring to watch because we didn't throw deep. Now Lebby is bad to watch because we throw and throw deep but we need to run it more.

And guess what, baseball is the same thing. 2022 they were miserable because our pitching sucked. Now it's our hitting sucks.


Maybe our fans just love to bitch and can't be happy.

We have a number of fans that take a balance sheet perspective with our sports performance, i.e., a snapshot in time. It's more emotional than analytical. A more rational fan looks for patterns of performance over a longer duration.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We have a number of fans that take a balance sheet perspective with our sports performance, i.e., a snapshot in time. It's more emotional than analytical. A more rational fan looks for patterns of performance over a longer duration.

The problem is that number is the loud minority (i.e. burner X accounts, fans accounts, etc). They are far too reactionary and get all these old heads who don't know how to use social media fired up and start tweeting the same thing. So it's the only thing you ever see.

Our fanbase as a whole is a tad too reactionary. I know I've been guilty of it as well at times. Heck I wanted to fire Lemonis after 2022 and I wanted to fire Leach after 3 games.

[EdwardDrayton]

The problem is that number is the loud minority (i.e. burner X accounts, fans accounts, etc). They are far too reactionary and get all these old heads who don't know how to use social media fired up and start tweeting the same thing. So it's the only thing you ever see.

Our fanbase as a whole is a tad too reactionary. I know I've been guilty of it as well at times. Heck I wanted to fire Lemonis after 2022 and I wanted to fire Leach after 3 games.

We've ALL been guilty of that at times. We're human and we have a lifelong investment in this university. We all want to strut amongst the best roosters at least every once in a while. Didn't help that any when we got one in 2021. Now we want MORE. :)

[DawgFromOxford]

Now we want MORE. :)

This is the "problem" Jans is creating and the same "problem" Mullen created. We've tasted a bit of success aka making the tournament the past 2 years, or for Mullen, it was winning 6-8 games consistently. And now we want to see the program take the next step beyond just making the tournament. Making the tournament is great (especially with our short basketball history), but this team has the tools to make it beyond round 1 so it would definitely be disappointing if we got bounced immediately.

[StateDawg44]

Then don't watch.....

Lolz. It doesn?t even require watching when you are down 27-53 at half. It?s very obvious the bed crapping team was who traveled to Tuscaloosa. 111-73 ass whooping because we won?t defend the 3 and are lazy. Such a satisfying game to watch, right?


I love when people use that excuse. I mean there is a pretty easy solution to the issue, just do not watch. Yet, those same people will be complaining the very next game.

You realize you are talking about MSU sports? We always seem primed to come up short. Just a little consistency would go a long way. No one is expecting bama results in football or Duke results in basketball. So if we complain we can?t watch now? Y?all are so damn sensitive.


The problem is that number is the loud minority (i.e. burner X accounts, fans accounts, etc). They are far too reactionary and get all these old heads who don't know how to use social media fired up and start tweeting the same thing. So it's the only thing you ever see.

So can?t complain on a sports message board or on social media because old farts don?t know how to use X? Ha do what? Are you a socialist?

Next you?ll say I can?t be happy if we win because I complained one time.


This is the "problem" Jans is creating and the same "problem" Mullen created. We've tasted a bit of success aka making the tournament the past 2 years, or for Mullen, it was winning 6-8 games consistently. And now we want to see the program take the next step beyond just making the tournament. Making the tournament is great (especially with our short basketball history), but this team has the tools to make it beyond round 1 so it would definitely be disappointing if we got bounced immediately.

Excuse us for wanting to continue building on the success we have had and not just being thrilled with an invitation to a tournament. I do understand the tournament resets everyone?s record. But it?s not going to reset this basketball teams inconsistency.

You must be thrilled with tanking after the NC while SEVERAL other SEC programs have passed us relatively overnight or at a minimum caught up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lolz. It doesn?t even require watching when you are down 27-53 at half. It?s very obvious the bed crapping team was who traveled to Tuscaloosa. 111-73 ass whooping because we won?t defend the 3 and are lazy. Such a satisfying game to watch, right?



You realize you are talking about MSU sports? We always seem primed to come up short. Just a little consistency would go a long way. No one is expecting bama results in football or Duke results in basketball. So if we complain we can?t watch now? Y?all are so damn sensitive.



So can?t complain on a sports message board or on social media because old farts don?t know how to use X? Ha do what? Are you a socialist?

Next you?ll say I can?t be happy if we win because I complained one time.



Excuse us for wanting to continue building on the success we have had and not just being thrilled with an invitation to a tournament. I do understand the tournament resets everyone?s record. But it?s not going to reset this basketball teams inconsistency.

You must be thrilled with tanking after the NC while SEVERAL other SEC programs have passed us relatively overnight or at a minimum caught up.


I'll just take the comments of mine you responded to. First off, yes I realize it's Mississippi State sports. I've supported the program financially and with my attendance for the better part of three decades. We play in the toughest league in all of sports. If you wanted consistency, you're supporting the wrong program. It's tough to win in this league in anything. Ask Auburn. They've been trying to be consistent for the better part of 5 decades in every sport and still haven't found it. If we were in the ACC or Big 12 then consistency would be a little easier.

Now to the second, I don't really give a rats ass if you complain or not. I think complaining and calling people out from a burner Twitter account is the softest thing in the world though. I mean we have burner accounts that personally attack players and nothing can be done because they hide behind some stupid ass twitter name like Allyn McKeen or Jeff Lebby's burner. Hell earlier this year we had a certain group of "fans" tweeting every day at Zac Selmon that they were going to pull funding if he didn't fire Coleman Hutlzer. Do you know how 17 stupid they looked?? Spoiler: real 17 stupid. They looked like a bunch of LOSERS. Which they are. This also just makes us look bad. When you get on social media and the only thing people see is Mississippi State fans constantly bitching about midweek games in February or getting beat on the road against a top 4 team and acting like we lost to Prarie View, it looks terrible. I mean we got people like you that constantly run down Jans acting like we could do so much better. Guess what!!! We can't. We're lucky we could get Jans. Had it not been for his incident at Bowling Green, our coach would be Matt McMahon, and he's doing just a bang up job at LSU.

At the end of the day, we all want what's best for Mississippi State. But sometimes what's best, is not putting your immediate after loss thoughts on social media for the world to see. Sometimes, it's letting the people who make the decisions, make those decisions. Sometimes, it's just enjoying the damn ride.