Pitching vs #24 Troy

[bigbub50]

My best guesses for starter are Siary, Pruitt, Davis, McPherson. Probably wont put a heavy work load if its a wkend arm because of huge games coming up this weekend. I would love to see how Davis reacts in a starting situation because he has shoved and deserves a shot to start. Im leaning towards giving Williams a shot to close. His K to Free Pass ratio is 5-1 and hasnt given up a hit in 2 IP.

[MStateDawg]

After not seeing him this weekend, I'd guess Pruitt is starting tomorrow.

[R2Dawg]

My best guesses for starter are Siary, Pruitt, Davis, McPherson. Probably wont put a heavy work load if its a wkend arm because of huge games coming up this weekend. I would love to see how Davis reacts in a starting situation because he has shoved and deserves a shot to start. Im leaning towards giving Williams a shot to close. His K to Free Pass ratio is 5-1 and hasnt given up a hit in 2 IP.

Still early and I haven't seen everyone pitch yet but I liked what I've seen from Williams. He looked good in bullpen as I watched this past Saturday too. Good control and high velo.

[WSOPdawg]

What about Gavin Black and Bradley Loftin?

Are Noah Sullivan and Nolan Stevens going to get a chance to take the mound? All of these guys were big parts of our pitching staff in the pre-season. I'm really not wanting to see a lot more of Luke Dotson closing out the 9th (thinking that's not gonna end well once we hit the SEC).

[Coach34]

Last I heard Loftin is redshirting

[BigDawg81]

What about Gavin Black and Bradley Loftin?

Are Noah Sullivan and Nolan Stevens going to get a chance to take the mound? All of these guys were big parts of our pitching staff in the pre-season. I'm really not wanting to see a lot more of Luke Dotson closing out the 9th (thinking that's not gonna end well once we hit the SEC).
The last I heard is that Black is having issues with command.

[Homedawg]

What about Gavin Black and Bradley Loftin?

Are Noah Sullivan and Nolan Stevens going to get a chance to take the mound? All of these guys were big parts of our pitching staff in the pre-season. I'm really not wanting to see a lot more of Luke Dotson closing out the 9th (thinking that's not gonna end well once we hit the SEC).
Loftin is not on the 40 man. So I think you've seen him pitch here for the last time. He could come back next year but.....

[MStateDawg]

Pruitt has been announced as the starter.

[StateDawg44]

Loftin is not on the 40 man. So I think you've seen him pitch here for the last time. He could come back next year but.....

So him coming back isn't realistic? What happened there?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Pruitt has been announced as the starter.

Kind of felt like that was coming. We need him to settle into a groove for us. He's a guy we need to find his form. Because his form is a weekend starter.

[SpaceBully]

Loftin is not on the 40 man. So I think you've seen him pitch here for the last time. He could come back next year but.....

He should have taken the money out of high school. Wasn't it like a 1-2 million signing bonus?

[Coach34]

He should have taken the money out of high school. Wasn't it like a 1-2 million signing bonus?

Was not drafted if I remember correctly

[StarkVegasSteve]

Was not drafted if I remember correctly

Correct. He had teams calling him in the back half of the first round and top of the second offering 1.2-1.5 to get him to sign. When teams realized he wasn't budging off his number, they removed him from their boards.

[basedog]

Head case.

[Coursesuper]

Loftin is not on the 40 man. So I think you've seen him pitch here for the last time. He could come back next year but.....

Not exactly a bad all things considered.

[State82]

Correct. He had teams calling him in the back half of the first round and top of the second offering 1.2-1.5 to get him to sign. When teams realized he wasn't budging off his number, they removed him from their boards.

Well that is really unfortunate for him.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Well that is really unfortunate for him.

He can come back next season no issue, next season he is 22, that's just 1-year older than the typical college draft pick.

MLB does not like 2-year rests on 35+ year old's. But kids are a different story.

[State82]

He can come back next season no issue, next season he is 22, that's just 1-year older than the typical college draft pick.

MLB does not like 2-year rests on 35+ year old's. But kids are a different story.

But that 1.5 mil signing bonus will more than likely not be waiting.

[Coach34]

He is obviously RS'ing because he remains on our roster. Hopefully he gets healthy by next season.

[HoopsDawg]

He is obviously RS'ing because he remains on our roster. Hopefully he gets healthy by next season.

42 players listed. Apparently, Loftin and Gleason are redshirting. everyone else is on the active 40 man roster. Some really talented players will barely see the field. If next year's 34 man limit holds, you will see a big trickle down effect to mid-majors.

[Todd4State]

But that 1.5 mil signing bonus will more than likely not be waiting.

Depends on how he performs next year. Injuries aren't the death sentence they used to be. 1.5 million would have been overslot for his actual projection at the time. Would have been surprised if a team spent that on him. My guess is that was his likely asking price rather than what MLB was willing to offer. He was always a guy that needed development and the most likely way he would have gotten 1.5 million was to come to college and perform.

We have seen pitchers recover from injuries and get large signing bonuses- see Ethan Small and likely Pico Kohn. Stone Simmons was out for two years and now he is throwing 94 and performing well. On a national scale- Hunter Elliott from Ole Miss I'm sure will also be paid well also.

[basedog]

Depends on how he performs next year. Injuries aren't the death sentence they used to be. 1.5 million would have been overslot for his actual projection at the time. Would have been surprised if a team spent that on him. My guess is that was his likely asking price rather than what MLB was willing to offer. He was always a guy that needed development and the most likely way he would have gotten 1.5 million was to come to college and perform.

We have seen pitchers recover from injuries and get large signing bonuses- see Ethan Small and likely Pico Kohn. Stone Simmons was out for two years and now he is throwing 94 and performing well. On a national scale- Hunter Elliott from Ole Miss I'm sure will also be paid well also.

Hmmm, you somewhat are correct Todd, what I've been told and have seen is crazy.

[Coach34]

Yeah every start for Pico this year is about making money. Hopefully he is able to do what Purdue did last year or at least close to it

[msstate7]

Wake up bats

[maroonmania]

Wake up bats

Yep, Gotro's offense stinking again.

[Ranchdawg]

I know Hunter is helping us at 1st base but deadgum his hitting is just killing us!

[BeardoMSU]

Pruitt looking good.

Can JP also coach hitting?**

[maroonmania]

Apparently we just can't score against Sun Belt pitching.

[BeardoMSU]

Wake up bats

What's the "waking up Jobu" equivalent for us? Rum? Chants? Sacrificing our hitting coach to Tonatiuh?

[BeardoMSU]

He hit that off the ground, lol

[BeardoMSU]

Let's not throw to this dude anymore, lol

[EdwardDrayton]

He hit that off the ground, lol

I saw it and I still can't believe it.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Fire Lemon

[CaptainObvious]

Good to see our hitting gurus did an incredible job evaluating Shane Lewis when he was here!

[Ranchdawg]

That home run is called adjusting your swing something we know nothing about!

[The Federalist Engineer]

Shane Lewis can only mash mid-major pitching. Put him in an SEC ball park, with fans in the stands, and against SEC arms. Wait, what did I just say?

[CaptainObvious]

Shane Lewis can only mash mid-major pitching. Put him in an SEC ball park, with fans in the stands, and against SEC arms. Wait, what did I just say?

Wasn't he here in 2022 when we had that murderous lineup Lewis couldnt squeeze into?

[msstate7]

We've played 2 good teams, and we haven't scored yet

[BeardoMSU]

Different year, same shit.

[CaptainObvious]

I think Lemonis is starting to prove what we already knew. He was great with somebody else's recruits by adding 2 or 3 key pieces to round out the team, but when he has to build a team from scratch, he isn't even at Sunbelt level.

[Activated Alpha]

Yeah Gotro has got to go

[maroonmania]

Troy about to put this one away.

[DawgFromOxford]

Gavin Black sighting. Get's to start his season coming into the game with bases loaded and down 3. Let's see what he's made of in 2025

[The Federalist Engineer]

I think MSU can come back and win this game.

I don't like our batting order. Most people don't put Mendoza hitters at 2 and 3. They better start hitting or they should bat 8 and 9, if you are convinced they are the best players.

Nolan Stevens should be playing

[CaptainObvious]

Yo cannot host a regional when you cannot win midweek games. The offense better get it going in the next 3 innings!

[StateDawg44]

I think MSU can come back and win this game.

I don't like our batting order. Most people don't put Mendoza hitters at 2 and 3. They better start hitting or they should bat 8 and 9, if you are convinced they are the best players.

Nolan Stevens should be playing

This offense? Mounting a come back? We better get to it.

[maroonmania]

So we give up 2 additional runs on a bases loaded walk followed by a wild pitch. Great job!

[Activated Alpha]

Yo cannot host a regional when you cannot win midweek games. The offense better get it going in the next 3 innings!

If we can?t hit sun belt pitching through 5, I highly doubt we will through the next 3

[BeardoMSU]

If we can?t hit sun belt pitching through 5, I highly doubt we will through the next 3

Our "easy" SEC slate bout to humble our asses, lol

[The Federalist Engineer]

Troy about to put this one away.

2 Runs might be enough today, how dare they run up the score like this. It's going to make us mad and spark a comeback.

This said, I hope MSU does not have to face Mighty Shane in the Tallahassee regional this summer in the #2 vs #3 game. Tough matchup.

[DawgFromOxford]

Can we hire Troy's hitting coach?

[BeardoMSU]

Ok...good start here...let's do something with it.

[BeardoMSU]

Now would be a good time for some runs, lol

[DawgFromOxford]

Sullivan and the stache with a smash!!!

[EdwardDrayton]

A SULLYSTACHE SALAMI!!!!!!!!!

[BeardoMSU]

Yes. That pleases me. More of that.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Thank you Super Mario

[CaptainObvious]

I wonder if Hines has ever tried "batting" Right Handed? Because he stinks at "hitting" batting Left Handed.

[StateDawg44]

This offense? Mounting a come back? We better get to it.

Well then.

[maroonmania]

Yep, now if we hadn't just given away 2 runs last inning we would have a lead. 9 hits to their 5 but we still trail.

[Activated Alpha]

Down almost got it

[The Federalist Engineer]

I wonder if Hines has ever tried "batting" Right Handed? Because he stinks at "hitting" batting Left Handed.

He seems to have stopped developing, I would gladly take the chubby Freshman version that hit 300 and 16 HRs. He's still a good defender.

I wonder if Nolan Stevens needs to play 1st base for the upside and development.

[BeardoMSU]

He seems to have stopped developing, I would gladly take the chubby Freshman version that hit 300 and 16 HRs. He's still a good defender.

I wonder if Nolan Stevens needs to play 1st base for the upside and development.

Yeah, he's become a giant hole in the lineup. And he always seems to kill us with RISP.

[maroonmania]

Yeah, he's become a giant hole in the lineup. And he always seems to kill us with RISP.

He needs to at least be dropped down in the order until he shows something at the plate.

[basedog]

Btw, our pinstripe uniforms are my favorite!

[maroonmania]

Really nice job by Siary.

[BeardoMSU]

He needs to at least be dropped down in the order until he shows something at the plate.

Yep.

[Ranchdawg]

Btw, our pinstripe uniforms are my favorite!

Agreed

[BeardoMSU]

And we're tied.

[maroonmania]

And we're tied.

Nice 2 out hitting by Reese.

[msstate7]

Am I misremembering or didn't Hines suck early season last year too?

[KOdawg1]

They pitched around Sullivan to put 2 men on just to get to Hines, who is the definition of "not clutch".

Dude peaked as a freshman.

[BeardoMSU]

Sigh...

[Mjoelner34]

Death, taxes and Hines leaving men on base...... That's at least 6 just in this game so far.

[Ranchdawg]

It is obvious to me Troy is pitching to get to Hunter. Sad!

[KOdawg1]

Am I misremembering or didn't Hines suck early season last year too?

He kinda sucked all season last year.

[maroonmania]

Hines strikes out on a head high fast ball. Man, he's killing us.

[EdwardDrayton]

Dang Hunter. What the hell was that.

[KOdawg1]

Move his ass down. He should either hit 7th or ride the bench. He's a senior. He is what he is at this point. And guy who has power but zero approach or pitch recognition.

There's a reason he's back this year. And it ain't because he just love MSU.

[CaptainObvious]

Well maybe he can follow in his father's footsteps and become an American Legion Hero playing AL tourneys until he is 40.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Am I misremembering or didn't Hines suck early season last year too?

Sucked all year mostly, that's why he wasn't drafted. Hit sub 200 versus left-handed pitching.

[Coursesuper]

He seems to have stopped developing, I would gladly take the chubby Freshman version that hit 300 and 16 HRs. He's still a good defender.

I wonder if Nolan Stevens needs to play 1st base for the upside and development.

That would be better than where we are right now.

[maroonmania]

Umpire must have had a different replay.

[Coursesuper]

Sucked all year mostly, that's why he wasn't drafted. Hit sub 200 versus left-handed pitching.

Bingo

[BeardoMSU]

Interesting

[Ranchdawg]

I like Parker! He is not afraid to change pitchers in the middle of a count.

[maroonmania]

I like Parker! He is not afraid to change pitchers in the middle of a count.

Hope it works. Scary looked good.

[EdwardDrayton]

I like Parker! He is not afraid to change pitchers in the middle of a count.

Don't think he was very happy with Siary throwing two meat pitches on an 0-2 count.

[EdwardDrayton]

Buckle up. Gonna be a white flag checkered flag finish.

[Saltydog]

Another error at second.......I'd just as soon have Buckner or Pulliam out there..........

[EdwardDrayton]

Big Ben.

[Activated Alpha]

Can we score some runs here? I doubt it

[Ranchdawg]

To make matters worse ole miss is beating USM 11-7

[R2Dawg]

Dang 19 strike outs so far. I think our pitching is plain filthy. Get some O and we in business.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Ben Davis is a player, I like him

[maroonmania]

Come on offense!

[ZedFedder]

Got a lot of hits tonight. Let?s get a run!

[maroonmania]

Highfill testers on the Mendoza line batting a hefty .200!

[SaintDawg]

A broken metal bat. Dont see that very often

[Coach34]

Another error at second.......I'd just as soon have Buckner or Pulliam out there..........

**** that- dude has 3 hits today. He's not leaving the line-up. He's batting .500

and he wears 34

[maroonmania]

Up to Sullivan. Black hole Hines up next.

[maroonmania]

Dang, swung at ball 4.

[BeardoMSU]

Jesus....

[Saltydog]

Should've pinch hit for Hunter. He's a K machine and even moreso vs lefties. Bad call to leave him in there. He had no chance and we all knew it. Everyone but Lemonis knew it was coming.

[maroonmania]

It was over when Sullivan went down.

[EdwardDrayton]

Four strikeouts HH. Oof.

[MBDawg601]

Hines has got to ride the pine. No amount of defense can make up for this level of batting. Atrocious.

[ZedFedder]

Hines is really bad. 4 ks. That?s terrible

[99jc]

It was over when Sullivan went down.

HH SUCKS!

[KOdawg1]

Hines can go ahead and leave now for all I'm concerned. He's a joke.

[Mjoelner34]

0-5, 4 K's, 9 (NINE) LOB

[R2Dawg]

Have you ever seen a game with such crazy pitching numbers and equally bad O numbers. Unreal. I've done lost count on how many RISP left on.12-14?

We must win this game.

[BeardoMSU]

Yeah, something had to give here...

[Cowbell]

The saddest part about Hunter Hines is he is just one of many players that continues to not improve year to year. We get players out of the portal every year that become our best hitters and the kids we retain from the year before don't seem to improve. It says a lot about our hitting coach.

[MBDawg601]

Jesus Christ?..

[BeardoMSU]

0-5, 4 K's, 9 (NINE) LOB


https://youtu.be/SwveuIRWxBo?si=_lK3qDQlzOZh5LFY

[Activated Alpha]

Game over

[BeardoMSU]

And....there it is...

[BeardoMSU]

Nm

[Saltydog]

Davis has good stuff but he only has two pitches. That's not gonna cut it in the SEC.

[maroonmania]

Shite!

[CaptainObvious]

If he left after the game tonight, he could probably sign with the Mud Monsters tomorrow and be playing in front of friends and family in Trustmark starting in May! That is probably the highest level he could ever reach. Maybe he can become a hockey goalie!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Every inning lemon is here is a waste of time. Has been since our best pitcher and hitter ever won him a natty

[Saltydog]

He's the same effing hitter he was in 2022. No significant improvement at all.

[Coursesuper]

Have you ever seen a game with such crazy pitching numbers and equally bad O numbers. Unreal. I've done lost count on how many RISP left on.12-14?

We must win this game.

We have a couple of spots that are hurting us badly right now. It?s baffling why we can?t see the light.

[Activated Alpha]

We have good hitters due up, but Hines AB just deflated any momentum we had in that inning that I doubt we do anything

[MBDawg601]

I don?t see big hit Mac in this lineup. Games over.

[Activated Alpha]

I don?t see big hit Mac in this lineup. Games over.

I would trade 100 Hines for 1 big hit Mac right about now

[Cowbell]

I will never understand how mid-major teams have better players/pitchers than us in the portal era.....

[MBDawg601]

I would trade 100 Hines for 1 big hit Mac right about now

Electric

[CaptainObvious]

So Hines in his 10th year here can't hit a single with RISP but a pinch hitter for Troy gets the green light on a 3-0 count and crushes it 395 feet!

[Mjoelner34]

I will never understand how mid-major teams have better players/pitchers than us in the portal era.....

Because we only take 3 or 4 portal players instead of replacing everybody Lemons and Goatrow have "coached up".

[MBDawg601]

So Hines in his 10th year here can't hit a single with RISP but a pinch hitter for Troy gets the green light on a 3-0 count and crushes it 395 feet!

Sounds like a gd Disney movie. Can?t make this stuff up.

[Ranchdawg]

It’s nice to see the cut out of cowboy in his normal seat!

[Saltydog]

C34 to Lemonchizik's rescue in 3,2,1........

[ZedFedder]

Need to pinch hit for Cupp.

[Cowbell]

Because we only take 3 or 4 portal players instead of replacing everybody Lemons and Goatrow have "coached up".

Exactly. Every player we retain doesn't improve. We can't recruit well or coach hitters.

[msstate7]

So Hines in his 10th year here can't hit a single with RISP but a pinch hitter for Troy gets the green light on a 3-0 count and crushes it 395 feet!

That 9th inning HR was their lead off guy that's hitting over .400 and leads the country in doubles

[maroonmania]

2 at the warning track.

[Activated Alpha]

Pathetic

[BeardoMSU]

Well that sucked...

[maroonmania]

So 6-0 against bad teams. 0-2 against the Sun Belt.

[EdwardDrayton]

Outhit them almost two to one. But strand a bakers dozen. Oof.

[CaptainObvious]

I've had enough of Lemonis ball!

[Coach34]

Outhit them 13-7 and lost

And that's why you dont sub for a guy batting .500. Terrible ending

[BuckyIsAB****]

He?s got to go

[R2Dawg]

That sucks. We should have won that game easy.

So does this mean basketball wins tonight? Dang it should.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would trade 100 Hines for 1 big hit Mac right about now

But Hines can effectively pass a drug test. Was a problem with MacNamee.

[Coursesuper]

I?m sorry but that was 17ing stupid. WTF was he thinking?

[Activated Alpha]

I would like to see Gotro first. If Lemonis can?t fix this team with a new hitting coach then he can go to

[Cowbell]

I'm getting tired of seeing us getting pimped I'm at home by mid-majors. It's a recurring theme...

[R2Dawg]

Outhit them almost two to one. But strand a bakers dozen. Oof.

And 20 strike outs not to mention what 14 RISP left on base? Nobody but us lose that game.

[Saltydog]

cut it and before anyone says it, NO, he's not the best we can get.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm getting tired of seeing us getting pimped I'm at home by mid-majors. It's a recurring theme...

Going strong since the Vandy game of 2021

[Cowbell]

I would like to see Gotro first. If Lemonis can?t fix this team with a new hitting coach then he can go to

If he has to change both the pitching coach and the hitting coach to win, what does that say about him.

[msstate7]

For this to be our big sport, we kinda suck

[Activated Alpha]

But Hines can effectively pass a drug test. Was a problem with MacNamee.

I would give him a bucket of piss in order to pass if it means we had clutch hitters like him in our lineup. Cupp almost had it and on a warmer day it probably would have been

[parabrave]

OK Lemon this one is on you. You left a guy out there who had 9LOB. Any other coach worth a shit woul/ve pulled him after 6 screw his syke/

[maroonmania]

Outhit them 13-7 and lost

And that's why you dont sub for a guy batting .500. Terrible ending

Yep, horrible move. And what really killed us were the 2 runs Black gave away with the bases loaded walk and the wild pitch. Ended up being the difference. I can live with our pitchers getting hit much more than that.

[maroonmania]

OK Lemon this one is on you. You left a guy out there who had 9LOB. Any other coach worth a shit woul/ve pulled him after 6 screw his syke/

Way too many holes in the lineup right now. Hines is the worst but Highfill isn't doing anything either.

[CaptainObvious]

That 9th inning HR was their lead off guy that's hitting over .400 and leads the country in doubles
Yeah. I realized after the fact that the pinch hitter was the previous guy.

[Ranchdawg]

Losing to sunbelt teams mid-week is just a killer! Home or away just ruins the season. Come on this is ridiculous! I had looked so forward to baseball season and have for many years. But yet again its going to be a loooooong season.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I mean we lost a midweek game to a team ranked 21. Should we have won? Yes. But some are acting like this was Texas Southern. Last year you all wanted a tougher non conference schedule. Well….you got it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The good news is this makes me kind of excited for basketball. A win is possible. And a win in that is a lot more important anyways.

[RezDog7]

I mean we lost a midweek game to a team ranked 21. Should we have won? Yes. But some are acting like this was Texas Southern. Last year you all wanted a tougher non conference schedule. Well….you got it.

Lemonis is weak ass little bitch. Crying about bat flip. How about benching that walking strikeout of a first baseman and stop getting punker in your own stadium.

[Coach34]

We have lost to 2 ranked teams. It's not like we lost to Cal Poly Slo like A&M

[RezDog7]

The good news is this makes me kind of excited for basketball. A win is possible. And a win in that is a lot more important anyways.

I'll bet you my life savings right now on that.

[Coach34]

I mean we lost a midweek game to a team ranked 21. Should we have won? Yes. But some are acting like this was Texas Southern. Last year you all wanted a tougher non conference schedule. Well….you got it.

Exactly. You wanted to get tested early guys- well we are

[Coursesuper]

Way too many holes in the lineup right now. Hines is the worst but Highfill isn't doing anything either.

Yup

[Cowbell]

I mean we lost a midweek game to a team ranked 21. Should we have won? Yes. But some are acting like this was Texas Southern. Last year you all wanted a tougher non conference schedule. Well?.you got it.

Ok that makes me feel better. We are just fine. CWS here we come.

[RezDog7]

We have lost to 2 ranked teams. It's not like we lost to Cal Poly Slo like A&M
We were ranked higher. Lemonis is a joke.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'll bet you my life savings right now on that.

That might be 5 dollars or 5 million dollars. I lean towards 5 dollars so I will pass.

[RezDog7]

That might be 5 dollars or 5 million dollars. I lean towards 5 dollars so I will pass.

Either way, you lose.

[BuckyIsAB****]

We have lost to 2 ranked teams. It's not like we lost to Cal Poly Slo like A&M

What about VMI or that Norse team that beat our ass? What were the excuses for those? Or was that when you wanted to get rid of him? He should?ve been fired after 23 but here we are

[CaptainObvious]

We have lost to 2 ranked teams. It's not like we lost to Cal Poly Slo like A&M

It is not WHO we lost to! It is HOW Lemonis finds ways to make the wrong decisions which makes HOW we lost that pisses us off!

[Ranchdawg]

Do you think these two ranked teams are as good as the level of play we are going to every weekend in the SEC. That’s what I’m upset about. These teams are NOT the caliber of SEC teams. Ole Miss beat USM today.

[Coach34]

What about VMI or that Norse team that beat our ass? What were the excuses for those? Or was that when you wanted to get rid of him? He should?ve been fired after 23 but here we are

We are 8 games in. We have a pretty good team with alot of moving parts. Some guys are starting to separate from others. We are going to be fine

[StateDawg44]

I would like to see Gotro first. If Lemonis can?t fix this team with a new hitting coach then he can go to

I?ve kind of taken this stance watching this team so far. Last year I was heavy on get rid of Lemonis. It?s just the same boring non-progressing offense we?ve seen for the past 3 years. Gotro isn?t doing what we need and could easily be replaced. Lemonis brought us Parker so I trust he can make the right hire.

Lemonis still doesn?t give me the warm and fuzzies and I really don?t have much hope that he can get us to the championship again. But he certainly cannot with this offense and needs to try something else or get outta here.

[Coach34]

Do you think these two ranked teams are as good as the level of play we are going to every weekend in the SEC. That’s what I’m upset about. These teams are NOT the caliber of SEC teams. Ole Miss beat USM today.

These 2 teams are good enough to be in a Super come June.

[Coach34]

It is not WHO we lost to! It is HOW Lemonis finds ways to make the wrong decisions which makes HOW we lost that pisses us off!

Parker pitching Schnoor and then staying with him was pretty bad

[EdwardDrayton]

We are 8 games in. We have a pretty good team with alot of moving parts. Some guys are starting to separate from others. We are going to be fine

^^^^^^^^^^

[Coursesuper]

Exactly. You wanted to get tested early guys- well we are

There?s testing early and WTF. Tonight was a WTF moment.

[The Federalist Engineer]

0-5, 4 K's, 9 (NINE) LOB

Yeah, but who puts the player in the game and bats him 4th?

[BankerDog]

Yup

Kinda weird that?s those two are the highest earning NIL players on our roster and both are from Madison?

[BuckyIsAB****]

We are 8 games in. We have a pretty good team with alot of moving parts. Some guys are starting to separate from others. We are going to be fine

Yeah if we want to make a regional we might be okay. Lemon can definitely underachieve with the best of them. Lower those standards

[Coach34]

There?s testing early and WTF. Tonight was a WTF moment.

We had 13 hits...they had 7. Shit happens

[Coursesuper]

Kinda weird that?s those two are the highest earning NIL players on our roster and both are from Madison?

Makes one wonder.

[Coursesuper]

We had 13 hits...they had 7. Shit happens

Well yeah it does, but the end of that is a head scratcher. PH for a guy with 3 hits when we need it but do not for a guy who has K?d in 10 of his last 13 and inning before.

[BuckyIsAB****]

These 2 teams are good enough to be in a Super come June.

We dont have a kid on our roster that has been to one of those. Wait sorry Stone Simmons but he was prolly standing behind first the whole time

[basedog]

WOW, Ole Dixie roughed up Southern Miss today. I bet Usm doesn’t make a Super 34.

It’s early, let’s hope weather gets hot so we see what we got.

[basedog]

Well yeah it does, but the end of that is a head scratcher. PH for a guy with 3 hits when we need it but do not for a guy who has K?d in 10 of his last 13 and inning before.

I’m still saying WTF!!

[The Federalist Engineer]

Kinda weird that?s those two are the highest earning NIL players on our roster and both are from Madison?

Who are the NIL earners here? I hope it's not the two dudes that I think you are saying. They are marginally SEC players.

[msstate7]

Rice, Arizona, and ok st this weekend. Let's have a good weekend

[The Federalist Engineer]

I’m still saying WTF!!

Smells like daddy ball to me. Or a super smoke-show momma. I know nothing, just drank too much Wellers.

[Coursesuper]

Smells like daddy ball to me. Or a super smoke-show momma. I know nothing, just drank too much Wellers.

Then, Bravo to you sir.

[Coursesuper]

I’m still saying WTF!!

Will be for a hot minute.

[Saltydog]

Exactly. Very average to below average D, no closer and poor situational hitting is a recipe for disaster.

[Cooterpoot]

This team ain't no good! Starting pitching isn't strong outside one guy, defense is bad, hitting is bad, and not a lick of coaching.

[Todd4State]

I?ve kind of taken this stance watching this team so far. Last year I was heavy on get rid of Lemonis. It?s just the same boring non-progressing offense we?ve seen for the past 3 years. Gotro isn?t doing what we need and could easily be replaced. Lemonis brought us Parker so I trust he can make the right hire.

Lemonis still doesn?t give me the warm and fuzzies and I really don?t have much hope that he can get us to the championship again. But he certainly cannot with this offense and needs to try something else or get outta here.

The most likely way that Gautreau leaves is for a head coaching job. Or major booster pressure.

[Cowbell]

These 2 teams are good enough to be in a Super come June.

lol that's a stretch

[Saltydog]

You're drunk. We ain't winning in Tuscaloosa and everybody on this board knows it but you and 7.

[Coach34]

Well yeah it does, but the end of that is a head scratcher. PH for a guy with 3 hits when we need it but do not for a guy who has K?d in 10 of his last 13 and inning before.

Not gonna hit for a Sr team leader. I get it. But he needs to send a message.

Time for Stevens to get some time at 1st

[Coursesuper]

Not gonna hit for a Sr team leader. I get it. But he needs to send a message.

Time for Stevens to get some time at 1st

Agree, Stevens or Stallman need time there.

[RezDog7]

That might be 5 dollars or 5 million dollars. I lean towards 5 dollars so I will pass.

I'll take my $5. Large bills please.

[Todd4State]

Not gonna hit for a Sr team leader. I get it. But he needs to send a message.

Time for Stevens to get some time at 1st

Put Stallman there

[BeardoMSU]

We are 8 games in. We have a pretty good team with alot of moving parts. Some guys are starting to separate from others. We are going to be fine

I love your selective outrage, lol.

And it's always obvious when you've adopted some type of shtick for a particular season, btw (FB 2023, ftw!).

You'd have a lot more credibility if you could honestly acknowledge our strengths and weaknesses.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Guys y?all are forgetting we made a regional final last year we should be happy

[BeardoMSU]

Guys y?all are forgetting we made a regional final last year we should be happy

Standards!**

[Todd4State]

One thing I didn't like is we're playing a top 25 team and we're throwing some guys for the first time this season in week 3.

And sure most of them did well but we had one pitcher who had a meltdown that was pitching his first game this year. That first outing should have happened against Manhattan.

And no this isn't excusing the hitting. They choked. But they also had to work out of a 5-0 hole.

[StateDawg44]

These 2 teams are good enough to be in a Super come June.

If anything is for certain, that Super won?t be played in Starkville.

[RezDog7]

I'll take my $5. Large bills please.

I'll double down and bet that $5 that msu won't win another basketball game the rest of this year.

[Cooterpoot]

I thought this team would finish about 8th in the SEC, but I'm starting to think 10th or worse now. The deep pen is the only thing keeping me from moving back more, because I trust Parker to get the pitching right.

[Tater]

Guys y?all are forgetting we made a regional final last year we should be happy

We've lost midweek games to two top 25 teams in February. It might be an omen. It might be a blip.

Should LSU for their coach for losing to Omaha?

[The Federalist Engineer]

On the bright side today. Pruett looked good. This is big, if Pruett can be 3 or 4 quality long relief innings per SEC weekend, this is awesome.

Other than JT Schnoor everyone pitched pretty well. Gavin Black was basically thrown into a horror show situation. Must be a dog house situation.

If you bat daddy ball 8th, you probably score 2 more runs.

The blessing of losing is that you can make changes that otherwise you can't make very easy. You are not going to be a National seed with this hitting, so you got play the weekend like a knife fight to next remaining goal, maybe hosting a regional.

[DawgFromOxford]

I?m fine with Lemonis being a CEO coach but if you?re going to be a CEO coach you gotta have A level assistants. Parker fits the bill. Should?ve cut Gotro loose after last season

[basedog]

We've lost midweek games to two top 25 teams in February. It might be an omen. It might be a blip.

Should LSU for their coach for losing to Omaha?

Rankings in February means nothing. Too early to know what will happen. All I know Lemonis needs to play the best players, a few guys need to sit out awhile.

[Cowbell]

I thought this team would finish about 8th in the SEC, but I'm starting to think 10th or worse now. The deep pen is the only thing keeping me from moving back more, because I trust Parker to get the pitching right.

Starting to think we just need to give Parker the reigns

[CaptainObvious]

Starting to think we just need to give Parker the reigns

Hell, the Candy Man could match Lemonis Leadership and evaluation. We know his evaluation sucks but not moving Hines to the bottom or even sitting him a couple of games shows a tremendous lack of Leadership! The cut out of Cowboy sitting in the front row could outcoach Lemonis!

[maroonmania]

One thing I didn't like is we're playing a top 25 team and we're throwing some guys for the first time this season in week 3.

And sure most of them did well but we had one pitcher who had a meltdown that was pitching his first game this year. That first outing should have happened against Manhattan.

And no this isn't excusing the hitting. They choked. But they also had to work out of a 5-0 hole.

Not crazy about that either, and Black gifted Troy 2 runs with his wildness, but pitching is not the problem. 5 runs against Sun Belt pitching in 18 innings is the problem. So far, we face any decent pitching and we struggle to score including the Missouri State Friday pitcher. We did have 13 hits tonight but we couldn't even put the ball in play when we needed to late in the game. 5 runners on base with less than 2 outs in the 8th and 9th and we couldn't get anyone home.

[Tater]

Rankings in February means nothing. Too early to know what will happen. All I know Lemonis needs to play the best players, a few guys need to sit out awhile.

Don't disagree but I care more how we look in late March/April than in Feb. I know a team who lost to Friday Tulane and Saturday Kent State who agrees with me. (2021 State) Or goose egged against USM and squeaked by Pine Bluff 3-2 (2019 State). 2018 is a bit of an anomaly but we did lose to TAMU CC and Mcneese State on top of the USM sweep loss.


And for good measure how about the team that lost 2 of 3 to Central Arkansas (2013 State)

[Todd4State]

Starting to think we just need to give Parker the reigns

Parker is impressive when you talk to him. But he isn't ready at this point to coach a program like Mississippi State. Would be huge risk. And if offense is the problem- we have no idea who he would hire as a hitting coach.

My opinion of Gautreau is he is average. I wouldn't say he's bad. But he isn't as impressive as Parker is. The best case scenario would be for Gautreau to move on and bring in the hitting coach version of Parker.

Parker is a college guy. In that I mean he has the talent to coach in pro baseball but he likes college baseball more where he has more control of things. Gautreau to me seems like he treats our hitters like pros. It's like he is OK with letting guys fail and if the hurts the team in the short term so be it. To be honest with you Justin Haire is the most impressive hitting coach I have seen recently IMO. He's the head coach at Ohio State and he's never coming here as the hitting coach unless we give him some head coach in waiting deal or something like we did with Pat McMahon in the 1990's.

The biggest thing that concerns me with Gautreau is we brought in a bunch of guys who have a history of contact and our strikeouts have been about the same as last season so far.

Edit to say another solution would have been to bring in a hitting analyst to assist with hitting that is a hitting guru. Would free up Gautreau to recruit.

[Todd4State]

Not crazy about that either, and Black gifted Troy 2 runs with his wildness, but pitching is not the problem. 5 runs against Sun Belt pitching in 18 innings is the problem. So far, we face any decent pitching and we struggle to score including the Missouri State Friday pitcher. We did have 13 hits tonight but we couldn't even put the ball in play when we needed to late in the game. 5 runners on base with less than 2 outs in the 8th and 9th and we couldn't get anyone home.

I agree. I just didn't see anyone talking about the pitching issues though. And that deserves to be brought up.

Monkeying around with pitchers has cost us a lot of midweek games last year and this year so far waiting on guys like Colby Holcombe to click. And I'll be honest- I thought Schnoor was a candidate to be redshirted.

[Mjoelner34]

Don't disagree but I care more how we look in late March/April than in Feb. I know a team who lost to Friday Tulane and Saturday Kent State who agrees with me. (2021 State) Or goose egged against USM and squeaked by Pine Bluff 3-2 (2019 State). 2018 is a bit of an anomaly but we did lose to TAMU CC and Mcneese State on top of the USM sweep loss.


And for good measure how about the team that lost 2 of 3 to Central Arkansas (2013 State)

You've gone back and cherry-picked data points from the past for a comparison but the problem is, last night wasn't just a data point. It was the continuation of a trend that started in 2022.

[Tater]

You've gone back and cherry-picked data points from the past for a comparison but the problem is, last night wasn't just a data point. It was the continuation of a trend that started in 2022.

I cherry picked data? I literally just listed all 4 of our most recent CWS runs. I cherry picked the data to show our BEST seasons and compare to what we did then to make the point that we're hardly ever perfect in Feb/March and our output so far doesn't correlate with Omaha...

Seriously do you understand how dumb your comment is. I made the data comparison HARDER for my argument and it pretty obviously agreed with me. We all know in our bad years we struggle in cold Feb/early March. The data I "cherry-picked" shows in good years we still struggle in cold Feb/March. Sooooooooooooooo Feb/March aren't much of an indicator.

[Coach34]

To me- we look better than we did last year. We got 13 ****ing hits last night. The problem we are having is figuring out who should be where. It's time for Hines to see some pine. He had a down season last year and this season is starting the same way. Nothing has changed with his approach at the plate. Until something changes I want to see someone else there and Palmeiro can stay HR champ in Sville.

I'm not going to worry about 2 losses to good teams in Feb. Need a good showing this weekend as we get closer to SEC play

[basedog]

To me- we look better than we did last year. We got 13 ****ing hits last night. The problem we are having is figuring out who should be where. It's time for Hines to see some pine. He had a down season last year and this season is starting the same way. Nothing has changed with his approach at the plate. Until something changes I want to see someone else there and Palmeiro can stay HR champ in Sville.

I'm not going to worry about 2 losses to good teams in Feb. Need a good showing this weekend as we get closer to SEC play

And what u say about sitting players or player is correct. It's crazy with a different lineup everyday. Play the best players Lemonis.

[Tater]

And what u say about sitting players or player is correct. It's crazy with a different lineup everyday. Play the best players Lemonis.

How do you know who the best players are out of 15 if you only start the same 9 every day.

I'm gonna point to Jimmie Johnson's run of 5 Nascar Champs in a row under the old chase format. Chad Knaus tinkered and experimented during the summer whenever they got into locked position for the playoffs. That tinkering allowed them to dominate the last 10 tracks by finding the best edges using opportunities we otherwise wouldn't have had.

Against shitty teams is the time to tinker because you have more margin for error. Unfortunately we also played two pretty solid teams and took a couple of Ls. Oh well. 2021 lost 18 games.

[MStateDawg]

We got 13 ****ing hits last night.

Saturday: 11 Hits (5 XB) 9 Runs & 11 LOB
Sunday: 12 Hits (5 XB), 6 Runs, 10 LOB
Tuesday: 13 Hits (4 XB), 5 Runs, 14 LOB

Saturday was fine. Sunday was an anomaly (I've dont think I've ever seen a team hit 4 HRs and only score 6 runs). Yesterday it was about lack of situational hitting with runners on base. We are failing to put the ball in play far too frequently with runners in scoring position. Troy lost to Auburn last week because they gave up 4 unearned runs via errors on the infield. They had to move their SS to 3B to help correct the issue. I'm not sure we hit a ball to 3B all night. 12 strikeouts vs mid-week pitching is ridiculous!

[DawgFromOxford]

Yesterday it was about lack of situational hitting with runners on base. We are failing to put the ball in play far too frequently with runners in scoring position.

Which is a carry over issue from last year if I recall correctly. Didn?t have the bullpen to consistently hold a lead and the offense couldn?t mount a comeback or put the game out of reach when they had the chance.

[Todd4State]

Which is a carry over issue from last year if I recall correctly. Didn?t have the bullpen to consistently hold a lead and the offense couldn?t mount a comeback or put the game out of reach when they had the chance.

IIRC last year we put Nolan Stevens in a ton of bad situations and he almost never came through on the mound.

But even more of a problem was guys not putting the ball in play in clutch situations. Was a major issue especially with Dakota, Hines, and even Hujsack.

[Santiago]

Parker is impressive when you talk to him. But he isn't ready at this point to coach a program like Mississippi State. Would be huge risk. And if offense is the problem- we have no idea who he would hire as a hitting coach.

My opinion of Gautreau is he is average. I wouldn't say he's bad. But he isn't as impressive as Parker is. The best case scenario would be for Gautreau to move on and bring in the hitting coach version of Parker.

Parker is a college guy. In that I mean he has the talent to coach in pro baseball but he likes college baseball more where he has more control of things. Gautreau to me seems like he treats our hitters like pros. It's like he is OK with letting guys fail and if the hurts the team in the short term so be it. To be honest with you Justin Haire is the most impressive hitting coach I have seen recently IMO. He's the head coach at Ohio State and he's never coming here as the hitting coach unless we give him some head coach in waiting deal or something like we did with Pat McMahon in the 1990's.

The biggest thing that concerns me with Gautreau is we brought in a bunch of guys who have a history of contact and our strikeouts have been about the same as last season so far.

Edit to say another solution would have been to bring in a hitting analyst to assist with hitting that is a hitting guru. Would free up Gautreau to recruit.

What does Lemonis do these days?

[Coach34]

What does Lemonis do these days?

Meets with media
Meets with school officials
Meets with coaches about each player and their plans for each player.
Plans practice each day
Plans Gameday schedule
Relays travel schedule to team verbally and document-wise
Talks with players individually
Gives hitting advice
Heads up Team Accountability
Gives fielding advice
Yells when needed at something breaking down
Locates bucket

I'm sure there is a bunch more- but thats the nuts and bolts of things

[StarkVegasSteve]

IIRC last year we put Nolan Stevens in a ton of bad situations and he almost never came through on the mound.

But even more of a problem was guys not putting the ball in play in clutch situations. Was a major issue especially with Dakota, Hines, and even Hujsack.

Look we shouldn't have been in the situation we were in last night no doubt, we left 14 on base and Hines left 9 by himself. Saying that, if that game is played in April, Chance ties it up with a HR in the 9th and Cupp walks it off. Just needed to be a little warmer for those two to carry.

It sucks losing, but let's figure out these issues in February and get them corrected instead of having them pop up in April because we were playing Northsoutheastwestern Technical School of The Mines in February.

[Cooterpoot]

I agree. I just didn't see anyone talking about the pitching issues though. And that deserves to be brought up.

Monkeying around with pitchers has cost us a lot of midweek games last year and this year so far waiting on guys like Colby Holcombe to click. And I'll be honest- I thought Schnoor was a candidate to be redshirted.

Pitching is deep but the better talent is young and guys just finding. We failed to sign great pitching for a couple years and so this is what we get. He's got no choice but to get guys work to get experience.

[StateDawg44]

Just needed to be a little warmer for those two to carry.

I know the ball carries differently, but this just isn't an excuse.

Shane dude on their team hit one well over 400' off the damn ground yesterday. One of the other solo shots wasn't cheap at all either.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know the ball carries differently, but this just isn't an excuse.

Shane dude on their team hit one well over 400' off the damn ground yesterday. One of the other solo shots wasn't cheap at all either.

Didn't say anything about theirs. And I'm not even using it as an excuse. Hell Hines left 9 on base by himself. Just was making a point that those balls probably carry out and despite all the stuff we did wrong, we probably still win.

[Coach34]

I know the ball carries differently, but this just isn't an excuse.

Shane dude on their team hit one well over 400' off the damn ground yesterday. One of the other solo shots wasn't cheap at all either.

Theirs were pulled while ours in the 9th were oppo- makes a difference. We had another long drive to CF.

We had chances to win and just didnt come thru. Hats off to Troy. But this wasnt like losing to App State or Air Force. Not even Cal Poly Slo or Texas State

[EdwardDrayton]

Look we shouldn't have been in the situation we were in last night no doubt, we left 14 on base and Hines left 9 by himself. Saying that, if that game is played in April, Chance ties it up with a HR in the 9th and Cupp walks it off. Just needed to be a little warmer for those two to carry.

It sucks losing, but let's figure out these issues in February and get them corrected instead of having them pop up in April because we were playing Northsoutheastwestern Technical School of The Mines in February.

Really not trying to be rude or obnoxious Steve but Troy's three homers didn't need the April air.

[StateDawg44]

Really not trying to be rude or obnoxious Steve but Troy's three homers didn't need the April air.

Exactly. The temps didn't keep us from scoring runs. It certainly didn't hurt their 3 solo HR's.

Was it not in the 60s yesterday at game time? That's farcry of mid 30s.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Really not trying to be rude or obnoxious Steve but Troy's three homers didn't need the April air.

You're right. They didn't. And as I've now said 3 times, I wasn't trying to compare HRs. They crushed theirs. What I was saying was, despite the fact that we left the town of Crawford on base(and Hines left the town of Stewart by himself) we were warmer air away from all of it being a moot point and winning.

Just trying to inject a little bit of balance instead of just consistent negativity win or loss.

[StateDawg44]

You're right. They didn't. And as I've now said 3 times, I wasn't trying to compare HRs. They crushed theirs. What I was saying was, despite the fact that we left the town of Crawford on base(and Hines left the town of Stewart by himself) we were warmer air away from all of it being a moot point and winning.

Just trying to inject a little bit of balance instead of just consistent negativity win or loss.

As you've said, we were also just one measly base hit away. It's obvious many or our players struggle to just hit for contact. That is why there's reason to be pissed.

It's the same crap as last year. Whether it's March or the end of April. Can't even advance loaded bases. Some atrocious critical at bats yesterday. From veterans.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As you've said, we were also just one measly base hit away. It's obvious many or our players struggle to just hit for contact. That is why there's reason to be pissed.

It's the same crap as last year. Whether it's March or the end of April. Can't even advance loaded bases. Some atrocious critical at bats yesterday. From veterans.

Now we agree there. Hines has to better. It's disconcerting to say the least that he's the same hitter now as he was in February of his freshman year. And that's not on Jake. At a certain point, the kid has to want to learn to alter his approach. Hines doesn't apparently. So it's time to sit him.

[Todd4State]

Look we shouldn't have been in the situation we were in last night no doubt, we left 14 on base and Hines left 9 by himself. Saying that, if that game is played in April, Chance ties it up with a HR in the 9th and Cupp walks it off. Just needed to be a little warmer for those two to carry.

It sucks losing, but let's figure out these issues in February and get them corrected instead of having them pop up in April because we were playing Northsoutheastwestern Technical School of The Mines in February.

The thing is we played Manhattan and Missouri State while good was still a team we beat easily. Get guys like Schnoor work against teams like that and use the big guns against USM and Troy who are both top 25 teams. Beating USM on the road and Troy would have helped our resume.

[Todd4State]

Pitching is deep but the better talent is young and guys just finding. We failed to sign great pitching for a couple years and so this is what we get. He's got no choice but to get guys work to get experience.

He didn't have to pitch Dotson twice against Missouri State. And he had ample opportunities to get pitchers an inning or so against Manhattan.

The guys with talent have been performing for the most part this season.

[Coursesuper]

Now we agree there. Hines has to better. It's disconcerting to say the least that he's the same hitter now as he was in February of his freshman year. And that's not on Jake. At a certain point, the kid has to want to learn to alter his approach. Hines doesn't apparently. So it's time to sit him.

The kid is the same player he has been since he stepped on campus at the plate. Better defender as a Sr but is right now a big hole in the batting order.

[Coach34]

The kid is the same player he has been since he stepped on campus at the plate. Better defender as a Sr but is right now a big hole in the batting order.

I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990

[Coursesuper]

I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990

Can?t argue that point, will add though that now there is enough book on him that he is definitely pitched to with purpose. He is still trying to pull absolutely everything.

[EdwardDrayton]

You're right. They didn't. And as I've now said 3 times, I wasn't trying to compare HRs. They crushed theirs. What I was saying was, despite the fact that we left the town of Crawford on base(and Hines left the town of Stewart by himself) we were warmer air away from all of it being a moot point and winning.

Just trying to inject a little bit of balance instead of just consistent negativity win or loss.

Eight games in we should not be worried about any of this. We simply did not deliver at the plate with numerous RISP. It's a single game and it's early. Too early to tinker with players sitting or not. Troy delivered just enough and we did not. Frustrating of course but we're the ones that left the W on the field.

[Todd4State]

I disagree- I think he is worse. He basically hit .300 his 1st 2 years as a DH with 20 HR's per. Now? He is me at the SEC level in 1990

The difference is this year we can and will bench him if he keeps it up. Lemonis basically alluded to this in his interview last night.

[Todd4State]

Eight games in we should not be worried about any of this. We simply did not deliver at the plate with numerous RISP. It's a single game and it's early. Too early to tinker with players sitting or not. Troy delivered just enough and we did not. Frustrating of course but we're the ones that left the W on the field.

I think Lemonis's concern is guys doing the same things at the plate they did last year- ahem Hunter Hines.