Nate Oats

[Cowbell]

Just punched a clipboard into the floor. He's the biggest prick coaching in the SEC and that's saying something.

[Pancho]

no biggie, SEC coaching is stressful

[HeCannotGo]

The clipboard was clearly at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[bulldawg28]

The clipboard was clearly at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Exactly!!!!

[R2Dawg]

Just punched a clipboard into the floor. He's the biggest prick coaching in the SEC and that's saying something.

Yeah he is a piece of work. He cries to refs over every call. If I was a ref, I would call even more stuff against him for it, but these guys are scared of him like they were Saban. The Bama bully and connection to Stankey in Birmingham.

[Homedawg]

Just punched a clipboard into the floor. He's the biggest prick coaching in the SEC and that's saying something.

I'll take golden. Talking crap to the fans and our players.

[R2Dawg]

I'll take golden. Talking crap to the fans and our players.

Who does Golden coach for? Did that happen in our game with them?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Oats is no different than Jans. We had to replace the boards in our locker room 3 times Jans first year because he kept breaking them. He crow hopped a marker through one at halftime of one game that year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah he is a piece of work. He cries to refs over every call. If I was a ref, I would call even more stuff against him for it, but these guys are scared of him like they were Saban. The Bama bully and connection to Stankey in Birmingham.

Every coach cries over every call.

[quickstrike2]

Oats does more than any coach I have seen. It's not just the crying over calls. From the time he steps on the floor he is on those refs. Even on calls that go his way he is on them. I sat behind their bench twice and I couldn't believe they let him do as much as he does. He grabbed them one game during halftime before the second half started and was on them.

I will give him credit though, it works. He puts in the time to get a call when it matters.

[Homedawg]

Who does Golden coach for? Did that happen in our game with them?

Florida and yes our game.

[EdwardDrayton]

Every coach cries over every call.

It's working the officials. And is effective if done well.

[R2Dawg]

Every coach cries over every call.

No they do not. I understand working officials. You ain't paying attention. Oats cries all game long about every thing even obvious stuff they get right against his team. He has no credibility and with most I'd suspect it isn't helping him either.

I have played, coached and officiated basketball and Oates actions way out of line and not the norm.

Jans has a pretty balanced approach which what I've seen from him is appropriate. Let some bad calls go but at some point you unload. Jans has a nice balance to the officials.

[R2Dawg]

Oats does more than any coach I have seen. It's not just the crying over calls. From the time he steps on the floor he is on those refs. Even on calls that go his way he is on them. I sat behind their bench twice and I couldn't believe they let him do as much as he does. He grabbed them one game during halftime before the second half started and was on them.

I will give him credit though, it works. He puts in the time to get a call when it matters.

I agree I think he has achieved Saban status now with the officials and they are scared of him. He gets away with way too much.

[State82]

I agree I think he has achieved Saban status now with the officials and they are scared of him. He gets away with way too much.

Well, they are Alabama so......

[Ezsoil]

Who does Golden coach for? Did that happen in our game with them?

Yeah he was a total bitch ....he and his assistant were talking crap to Murphy, Hubbard and Melendez ... when they were in the huddle he told then to hit them hard and bury them on every pick

[msstate7]

I'll take golden. Talking crap to the fans and our players.

One of our players shoulda laid him out. Just claim golden was making another unwanted sexual advance

[Cowbell]

Oats is no different than Jans. We had to replace the boards in our locker room 3 times Jans first year because he kept breaking them. He crow hopped a marker through one at halftime of one game that year.

Jan's hasn't gotten in trouble for shoving other teams players

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah he was a total bitch ....he and his assistant were talking crap to Murphy, Hubbard and Melendez ... when they were in the huddle he told then to hit them hard and bury them on every pick

So he was telling them to do what every basketball coach in America tells their players, bury them on the pick. Spoiler, we do it too. Murphy, Matthews, and Nwoko get aways with throwing their shoulders on picks all the time.

I can sum all this up very easy: If Oats and Golden were our coach we would love it. The only reason we don't like it is because they coach other teams. If that was Jans spiking a clip board we'd have people saying we love the intensity and fire. If that was Jans saying bury them on the pick and talking crap to players, we'd say he was sticking up for our players.

[Pancho]

aw naw. starkvegas steve done dropped a truth bomb on us all. speak truth brother!

[somebodyshotmypaw]

no biggie, SEC coaching is stressful

Nate Oats is making over $5 million annually. If he is fired for incompetence or losing, they have to pay the full remainder of his contract through 2030. There is no stress. These coaches don't know what stress is. He could literally lose every game while coach and recruiting at an incompetent level, get fired, and they would still have to pay him over $30 million. Stress is making less than $200K annually, while competing at a high level with intensity daily, because at any time they could fire you and owe you zero. These coaches are spoiled and coddled.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Nate Oats is making over $5 million annually. If he is fired for incompetence or losing, they have to pay the full remainder of his contract through 2030. There is no stress. These coaches don't know what stress is. He could literally lose every game while coach and recruiting at an incompetent level, get fired, and they would still have to pay him over $30 million. Stress is making less than $200K annually, while competing at a high level with intensity daily, because at any time they could fire you and owe you zero. These coaches are spoiled and coddled.

Stress is driven by their ego. Coaching is ego driven. To win at the highest level and succeed at the highest level you have to be a severe egomaniac. Some coaches are better about hiding their ego outwardly but get them behind closed doors and 1 on 1 and it comes out. Chris is a great dude, but he's a bigger egomaniac than Oats and Golden combined. He does a hell of a job of hiding it, but if you just sit down and talk ball with him, the ego comes out. He will straight up tell you that had the stuff not happened at Bowling Green, he believes he'd have multiple F4 appearances and a national championship by now.

[msstate7]

Nate Oats is making over $5 million annually. If he is fired for incompetence or losing, they have to pay the full remainder of his contract through 2030. There is no stress. These coaches don't know what stress is. He could literally lose every game while coach and recruiting at an incompetent level, get fired, and they would still have to pay him over $30 million. Stress is making less than $200K annually, while competing at a high level with intensity daily, because at any time they could fire you and owe you zero. These coaches are spoiled and coddled.

The coaches that have this attitude don't make it to this level

[Homedawg]

One of our players shoulda laid him out. Just claim golden was making another unwanted sexual advance

He called cam a p****. Just trying to get a confrontation. Cussed Jans after the foul on Melendez when it was clear it wasn't flagrant. He's a clown. Screw him

[msstate7]

He called cam a p****. Just trying to get a confrontation. Cussed Jans after the foul on Melendez when it was clear it wasn't flagrant. He's a clown. Screw him

Imagine the self control it took for cam to not break his neck

[R2Dawg]

He called cam a p****. Just trying to get a confrontation. Cussed Jans after the foul on Melendez when it was clear it wasn't flagrant. He's a clown. Screw him

Wow. Just no place for that in sports, the SEC or anywhere. How could this guy not be penalized for this?

[R2Dawg]

Stress is driven by their ego. Coaching is ego driven. To win at the highest level and succeed at the highest level you have to be a severe egomaniac. Some coaches are better about hiding their ego outwardly but get them behind closed doors and 1 on 1 and it comes out. Chris is a great dude, but he's a bigger egomaniac than Oats and Golden combined. He does a hell of a job of hiding it, but if you just sit down and talk ball with him, the ego comes out. He will straight up tell you that had the stuff not happened at Bowling Green, he believes he'd have multiple F4 appearances and a national championship by now.

I agree with this mostly. I think there are a few really good people that make it far and succeed but they are few. Same thing in business world too. Arrogant $$holes at the top an think they are a god. Seen it my entire 35+ and going career. Half of them are idiots though, just in right place at right time. It doesn't take much competence to sit in the high chair in most companies as long as you got really good people at the bottom.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I agree with this mostly. I think there are a few really good people that make it far and succeed but they are few. Same thing in business world too. Arrogant $$holes at the top an think they are a god. Seen it my entire 35+ and going career. Half of them are idiots though, just in right place at right time. It doesn't take much competence to sit in the high chair in most companies as long as you got really good people at the bottom.

You're probably right, but I mean I just think of the best and they were all pretty damn arrogant.

Wooden-used a bag man to cheat for decades

Knight-threw a chair at an official and dared the University to fire him

Coach K- thought he deserved every call because he coached Team USA

Boeheim-extremely self explanatory and hit an official with his jacket one time.

Self-just exudes arrogance

Few-got a DUI and the first thing he said was, do you know who I am. Also constantly complains that Gonzaga gets no calls because they aren't in a power conference.

John Thompson-just intimidated everyone. Heck he shook down a drug kingpin one time.

Calhoun-notoriously crotchety

Hurley- I mean I think you've seen the stuff this year. He also has pushed officials, other teams players, and his own players.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Stress is driven by their ego. Coaching is ego driven. To win at the highest level and succeed at the highest level you have to be a severe egomaniac. Some coaches are better about hiding their ego outwardly but get them behind closed doors and 1 on 1 and it comes out. Chris is a great dude, but he's a bigger egomaniac than Oats and Golden combined. He does a hell of a job of hiding it, but if you just sit down and talk ball with him, the ego comes out. He will straight up tell you that had the stuff not happened at Bowling Green, he believes he'd have multiple F4 appearances and a national championship by now.

Very fair point. But ego can apply to the business world as well. The difference is that your production has to match your ego every day. And there is no safety net of a big contract like these coaches have.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Very fair point. But ego can apply to the business world as well. The difference is that your production has to match your ego every day. And there is no safety net of a big contract like these coaches have.

Ego can apply in any part of life. You said there was no stress for coaches because they get paid no matter what. What I was saying was that their ego is the stress inducer. They don't give a rip about the money. They want to be successful. That's why 99% of coaches keep coaching even if they are fired and receive a large buyout. Their ego won't let them step away.

There's a great scene in the movie Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps. Shia LaBeouf's character asks Josh Brolin's character what is enough. What number would he have to make to walk away from trading. He said, "more". That's college coaches. They are always striving for more. At a certain point it stops becoming about the money and starts becoming about being the greatest. Danny Hurley could walk away from coaching today and his kids kids would never have to work. So what drives him? Ego and Legacy.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Ego can apply in any part of life. You said there was no stress for coaches because they get paid no matter what. What I was saying was that their ego is the stress inducer. They don't give a rip about the money. They want to be successful. That's why 99% of coaches keep coaching even if they are fired and receive a large buyout. Their ego won't let them step away.

There's a great scene in the movie Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps. Shia LaBeouf's character asks Josh Brolin's character what is enough. What number would he have to make to walk away from trading. He said, "more". That's college coaches. They are always striving for more. At a certain point it stops becoming about the money and starts becoming about being the greatest. Danny Hurley could walk away from coaching today and his kids kids would never have to work. So what drives him? Ego and Legacy.

Correct. And the same ego and legacy drives many in the business world the same way it drives Danny Hurley. But we don't have the same safety net knowing we could walk away and our kids would never have to work.

[deltadawg63]

There are those and while my glasses are tinted maroon...If Dan were still here, he would have a statute awaiting his retirement! Not sure how he would have reacted and responded to NIL & portal but he would have built enough credence to have overcome some of that weakness and likely would have won more much more than Moorhead and Arnett; thus, our status would have been much greater so that donors would be more confident and willing to support NIL even more. Dan was not a big and wasteful spender and his salary was quite competitive so he was/is not hurting financially and I believe he is/would have been quite well off in that regard. It was his desire and ego to prove he could do more and win on an even bigger stage, not money.

[StarkVegasSteve]

There are those and while my glasses are tinted maroon...If Dan were still here, he would have a statute awaiting his retirement! Not sure how he would have reacted and responded to NIL & portal but he would have built enough credence to have overcome some of that weakness and likely would have won more much more than Moorhead and Arnett; thus, our status would have been much greater so that donors would be more confident and willing to support NIL even more. Dan was not a big and wasteful spender and his salary was quite competitive so he was/is not hurting financially and I believe he is/would have been quite well off in that regard. It was his desire and ego to prove he could do more and win on an even bigger stage, not money.

Correct and that's what I was saying. They are so much more driven than the average person. Like the average person is trying to provide and maybe win some company awards. A coach is trying to gain glory. Coaches are just wired differently. You can't compare what they do to an average person. The average Joe worker can mostly come in at 8 and go home at 5 and not worry about work after those hours about 75% of the time, obviously there are professions where you have some after hours stuff but for the most part it's 8-5. Coaches are working 364. Their only day off most of the time is Christmas Eve. You have to want it to do that. The pay is great and the fame is amazing. But the downside is you basically don't have a family outside of about 2 total months and not at the same time.

[R2Dawg]

Correct. And the same ego and legacy drives many in the business world the same way it drives Danny Hurley. But we don't have the same safety net knowing we could walk away and our kids would never have to work.

Thing is I've seen some of the best in their business get fired, run off whatever. Had nothing to do with how good they did their jobs it was ignorance and arrogance of the big bosses that didn't know jack. I see incompetence in massive levels leading companies and they still skate by. People cook the books, suck up, lie up, BS their way to the top and even stay there with no real skill all the time. But only when there are enough competent people below them usually.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Correct and that's what I was saying. They are so much more driven than the average person. Like the average person is trying to provide and maybe win some company awards. A coach is trying to gain glory. Coaches are just wired differently. You can't compare what they do to an average person. The average Joe worker can mostly come in at 8 and go home at 5 and not worry about work after those hours about 75% of the time, obviously there are professions where you have some after hours stuff but for the most part it's 8-5. Coaches are working 364. Their only day off most of the time is Christmas Eve. You have to want it to do that. The pay is great and the fame is amazing. But the downside is you basically don't have a family outside of about 2 total months and not at the same time.

You’ve got a point, for the average Joe worker. That’s just not how I do it. Every day at work should be an intense competition to improve and exceed expectations. That’s why I have zero problem with all of these lazy federal workers being laid off. And 8-5, 5 days a week doesn’t cut it.