View Full Version : Start Warren at PG
cheewgumm
02-12-2025, 11:04 PM
This makes us better on defense, and he?s a more comfortable player for Jans
If our guards are gonna play like crap anyway, get Warren in to play great D and change up the flow.
Also start Jones.
pg. Warren / Hubbard
Sg. Hubbard /. Harris
Sf. Jones. /. RJ
Pg. Murphy /. Mathew?s
C. Nwoko / Cjol
parabrave
02-13-2025, 12:23 AM
Can he run an offense? Because right now we don't have anyone who can.
Todd4State
02-13-2025, 01:00 AM
Something has to change for sure.
cheewgumm
02-13-2025, 01:03 AM
My advice to him if he does get in, is hold the ball and wave your hands around directing people where to go.
It will LOOK like you are the floor general. He?ll be hailed as a hero.
Perception is reality.
cheewgumm
02-13-2025, 01:04 AM
And we need leadership from PG, fake or not.
Fake it.
NCMSTFAN
02-13-2025, 07:18 AM
My advice to him if he does get in, is hold the ball and wave your hands around directing people where to go.
It will LOOK like you are the floor general. He?ll be hailed as a hero.
Perception is reality.
Hilarious!
Lord McBuckethead
02-13-2025, 09:36 AM
Jones can't dribble or shoot. I watched two games with Jones this week and he missed the rim on every single jump shot and only hit the rim with a lay up. Malendez needs to be on the floor.
msstate7
02-13-2025, 10:24 AM
Jones can't dribble or shoot. I watched two games with Jones this week and he missed the rim on every single jump shot and only hit the rim with a lay up. Malendez needs to be on the floor.
You didn't watch jones then... he hit 2 3s in our last 2 games. Not saying he's a good shooter though
HoopsDawg
02-13-2025, 11:54 AM
This makes us better on defense, and he?s a more comfortable player for Jans
If our guards are gonna play like crap anyway, get Warren in to play great D and change up the flow.
Also start Jones.
pg. Warren / Hubbard
Sg. Hubbard /. Harris
Sf. Jones. /. RJ
Pg. Murphy /. Mathew?s
C. Nwoko / Cjol
That is a hilarious starting lineup. Guard Hubbard and pack it in.
Goldendawg
02-13-2025, 11:55 AM
Jones can't dribble or shoot. I watched two games with Jones this week and he missed the rim on every single jump shot and only hit the rim with a lay up. Malendez needs to be on the floor.
Have you not paid attention to Melendez the last few games? For example, he got plenty of playing time against Florida, but very late into the game he had 0 points and 2 rebounds with a couple of fouls. Can you tell me the last game he scored double figures? Right now, we have one dependable scorer/rebounder in Murphy. Hubbard always gets his, but usually on volume shooting and was 5/15 against Florida. Our rotations are very puzzling as we often play 3 on 5 or even 2 on 5 when we are on offense. Kugel can't handle the ball and Harris looks afraid to shoot. Cam is not a threat. We again gave up 14 3's against Florida.
NCMSTFAN
02-13-2025, 12:38 PM
Have you not paid attention to Melendez the last few games? For example, he got plenty of playing time against Florida, but very late into the game he had 0 points and 2 rebounds with a couple of fouls. Can you tell me the last game he scored double figures? Right now, we have one dependable scorer/rebounder in Murphy. Hubbard always gets his, but usually on volume shooting and was 5/15 against Florida. Our rotations are very puzzling as we often play 3 on 5 or even 2 on 5 when we are on offense. Kugel can't handle the ball and Harris looks afraid to shoot. Cam is not a threat. We again gave up 14 3's against Florida.
I agree with all of this and the question is what happened? We look like a totally different team
Ezsoil
02-13-2025, 01:03 PM
Can he run an offense? Because right now we don't have anyone who can.
Every time he is in he has done well especially the last few games ....he does settle the team down
cheewgumm
02-13-2025, 02:52 PM
RJ , Kugel and Harris are averaging about 10 together.
Give me Jones and Warren instead.
HoopsDawg
02-13-2025, 03:17 PM
RJ , Kugel and Harris are averaging about 10 together.
Give me Jones and Warren instead.
What are you talking about? Those 3 have played poorly recently. But Harris and Kugel are averaging 10/game and RJ is averaging 8 per game.
Advanced analytics based on +/- and win share say our starting lineup should be Hubbard, Harris, RJ, Cam and Keyshawn. Kugel should be first man off the bench for 1-3. And Nwoko should be off the bench for the 4-5. Jones should see the fewest minutes in our rotation.
klong-dog
02-13-2025, 03:35 PM
PG. Hubbard
SG. Kugel
SF. Cam
PF. Murphy
C. Nwoko
cheewgumm
02-13-2025, 03:44 PM
What are you talking about? Those 3 have played poorly recently. But Harris and Kugel are averaging 10/game and RJ is averaging 8 per game.
Advanced analytics based on +/- and win share say our starting lineup should be Hubbard, Harris, RJ, Cam and Keyshawn. Kugel should be first man off the bench for 1-3. And Nwoko should be off the bench for the 4-5. Jones should see the fewest minutes in our rotation.
I dont care about advanced analytics.
If we lose 4 at home and are getting sodomized by other SEC teams, I change the line up.
HoopsDawg
02-13-2025, 04:26 PM
I dont care about advanced analytics.
If we lose 4 at home and are getting sodomized by other SEC teams, I change the line up.
Thank goodness you aren't the coach. I did change the lineup and more importantly the rotation.
HoopsDawg
02-13-2025, 04:26 PM
PG. Hubbard
SG. Kugel
SF. Cam
PF. Murphy
C. Nwoko
Brick city.
cheewgumm
02-13-2025, 04:28 PM
Thank goodness you aren't the coach. I did change the lineup and more importantly the rotation.
Yes, thank God. We'd probably lose 4 home games and get blown out by 20-30 with my lineup.
LC Dawg
02-13-2025, 04:30 PM
Warren has looked good handling the ball a few times and Jones seems to come up with a big play for us in a lot of our wins. I wouldn't mind seeing Warren a little more and Jones obviously has a role for us but those two should never been in a game at the same time.
R2Dawg
02-13-2025, 04:43 PM
You didn't watch jones then... he hit 2 3s in our last 2 games. Not saying he's a good shooter though
Jones playing better than RJM now, just don't know what happened to Cam, RJ and Kugel? Bizzare.
confucius say
02-13-2025, 04:56 PM
If the season ended today, we completely whiffed on the portal. Spent a lot of money and RJ, Kugel, and Harris have been below average. Especially in SEC play. Still have time to get going.
Nwoko is good for a backup center, which is the minutes he gets.
Goldendawg
02-13-2025, 07:14 PM
Jones playing better than RJM now, just don't know what happened to Cam, RJ and Kugel? Bizzare.
Early in the season, (of course before playing top SEC teams), they were moving the ball, sharing the ball, making the extra pass, racking up assists, and looked like they were having fun and enjoying playing together. Recently except for Murphy; RJ, Kugel, and Harris look like they are miserable watching a volume shooter who is a defensive liability often take more shots than 2 or 3 of them combined. Not having a true point guard (Is Clary our basketball Creedmore and if so, surely we are not still paying him?) is killing this team on offense. Cam has no outside game on offense and has dropped back to a 50% FT shooter after starting off the season shooting pretty well. Jans's stubbornness to continue doubling the post has got us virtually last in the country in defending the 3. We have been to many home games watching from row 3. Of course, losing the way we have been recently shows many issues. We need corrections on both offense and defense to turn this thing around. JMO.
parabrave
02-13-2025, 08:03 PM
The 1st two sentences are about the Gist of it.
Percho
02-13-2025, 09:57 PM
Hilarious!
I lit. LOL'ed.
trob115
02-14-2025, 12:34 AM
Every time you see an opponent throw it in the post, it's to setup a wide open practice 3pt shot. Jans has got to adjust the double down rotation and trust the straight man to man defense.
Hubbard has been playing out of position all season and he's also a liability on defense. He's been one of the worst defenders in the league this season
StarkVegasSteve
02-14-2025, 09:19 AM
Here's the thing, if we're gonna suck on defense and I don't think that's getting any better, hell just try to outscore everyone. Put Hubbard, Harris, Kugel, Melendez, and Murphy out there. Tell them if you pass up a shot, you're coming out. It's plainly obvious our defense sucks this year. So stop trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. You can bring Matthews and Jones in for late game situations where you need a stop. Jones, Warren, and Nwoko can get your primary bench minutes. I'd love for Cam Matthews to get in that group, but he sucks right now. Clear as day. He's never been good at offense but at least he would get you some offensive rebounds and play defense. He can't even do that right now. He needs to sit right now unfortunately. We need him to do those glue guy things again, but until he makes a decision to do them, he doesn't need to play.
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