Jan is the guy we have been looking for since 1996

[Coach34]

The 1995 and 1996 basketball teams were the best basketball teams we have had in modern history. We have been looking for that formula ever since and it looks like we finally found it.

Richard Williams was a really good basketball coach. Structured. Disciplined. Preached defense and toughness. His offenses were good when he had players and tough to watch when the talent level decreased. The down side of Williams was that he hated recruiting. Williams had to have a guy that could do the lionshare of that part for him. In the early years of his tenure he had John Brady handling most of that for him and that brought us our first SEC basketball title in 28 years in 1991. Once Brady left he brought in Rick Standsbury as his main recruiting guy along with Robert Kirby. Those guys brought in the bunch that led us to the great teams of 95 and 96

Exit Williams and Stands gets promoted to HC. He and Kirby continue to scour the lands for players and did pretty well. However, losing the quality coaching of Williams hampered the program from achieving previous heights. They were able to add another SEC title to the rafters but unfortunately wilted each March.

It's been another 29 years now since 1996 with us being unable to revive that magic until now. State has found their coaching/recruiting combo this time in one guy. A guy that has the X's and O's game but also has the vision and drive to bring in the players to make that vision happen. Enjoy what we are watching this season fellas. It's been awhile.

[Coursesuper]

Richard would have been around a lot longer if he didn?t literally 17 it up.

[msu15]

I'm not crowning him yet until he produces in March

[cheewgumm]

This is exactly right

[BrunswickDawg]

Richard would have been around a lot longer if he didn?t literally 17 it up.

Still the undefeated champ.

[cheewgumm]

96 team was perfection

That?s probably my favorite team, any sport, at State.

[Political Hack]

Best team since 96' and best coaching we've ever had imo.

[Tbonewannabe]

If Dontae didn't screw up his ankle and had more drive to get better then he would have played a long time in the NBA.

[HancockCountyDog]

This is a top 10 team plain and simple. I think we end up a 2-3 seed and I may be underestimating this team.

First time in almost 20 years I'm going to be hoping the 2nd weekend of where MSU could play is somewhere in the South.

[MoreCowbell]

The 1995 and 1996 basketball teams were the best basketball teams we have had in modern history. We have been looking for that formula ever since and it looks like we finally found it.

Richard Williams was a really good basketball coach. Structured. Disciplined. Preached defense and toughness. His offenses were good when he had players and tough to watch when the talent level decreased. The down side of Williams was that he hated recruiting. Williams had to have a guy that could do the lionshare of that part for him. In the early years of his tenure he had John Brady handling most of that for him and that brought us our first SEC basketball title in 28 years in 1991. Once Brady left he brought in Rick Standsbury as his main recruiting guy along with Robert Kirby. Those guys brought in the bunch that led us to the great teams of 95 and 96

Exit Williams and Stands gets promoted to HC. He and Kirby continue to scour the lands for players and did pretty well. However, losing the quality coaching of Williams hampered the program from achieving previous heights. They were able to add another SEC title to the rafters but unfortunately wilted each March.

It's been another 29 years now since 1996 with us being unable to revive that magic until now. State has found their coaching/recruiting combo this time in one guy. A guy that has the X's and O's game but also has the vision and drive to bring in the players to make that vision happen. Enjoy what we are watching this season fellas. It's been awhile.

Jans also seems like the type of coach who works better with NIL type year to year roster transitions because I do not see him recruiting high school kids and kissing their asses. He picked experienced, tough, defensive minded guys from other teams maybe overlooked and sold a vision. Not easy getting guys to Starkville that is reality.

He would be a great NBA coach in my opinion.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Best team since 96' and best coaching we've ever had imo.

2003-2004 dawgs were as good. They just ran into Xavier.
this team really has the parts. Stay focused boys for 3 months. Take care of your bodies and stay away from the skirts except for the night after the game.

[parabrave]

2003-2004 dawgs were as good. They just ran into Xavier.
this team really has the parts. Stay focused boys for 3 months. Take care of your bodies and stay away from the skirts except for the night after the game.

Yep the Zimmerman Bowers Teams were dam good but they just had a bad seed. Like the time they were the 2 seed in Dallas against Texas.

[RockyDog]

96 team was perfection

That?s probably my favorite team, any sport, at State.

Perfection? Naw. They played perfect over about an 8 game stretch at the end of the season which is all you can ask for. But RW squeezed every ounce he could out of that team. Russell Walters had zero offensive presence and there was no bench. We had an academy all star, a freshman center, freshman guard, and a backup center with no knees who did all they could to spell the starters. Whit, Washington and Hyche turned into good players but they were all green, totally inexperienced during that season.

[cheewgumm]

Perfection? Naw. They played perfect over about an 8 game stretch at the end of the season which is all you can ask for. But RW squeezed every ounce he could out of that team. Russell Walters had zero offensive presence and there was no bench. We had an academy all star, a freshman center, freshman guard, and a backup center with no knees who did all they could to spell the starters. Whit, Washington and Hyche turned into good players but they were all green, totally inexperienced during that season.

Youre right, i overdid it a bit.

But, I loved that run. It was great.

[cheewgumm]

My brother and I went to watch Dontae Jones before that year in the JUCO playoffs. They were playing at MC. We were going to see if he was gonna be someone who could help us.

I think he had 35 pts and 20 rebounds.

He was as good a player as we'd seen in person.

So, we were excited for that year before the NCAAs. That team did have some struggles though.

[Political Hack]

We're going to lose games. Some of them will be a players fault. Some will be on Jans. And there will be 10 meltdown threads between now the final buzzer of the SEC tourney. But this team is going to be an incredibly tough out come NCAA tournament time.

I hope we travel well as a fan base this post-season. It'll make a HUGE difference. If the committee is friendly, we could make a big run.

[Ranchdawg]

Political Hack wrote I hope we travel well as a fan base this post-season. It'll make a HUGE difference. If the committee is friendly, we could make a big run.

When has the committee ever been friendly to MSU? Asking for a friend.

[Coursesuper]

We're going to lose games. Some of them will be a players fault. Some will be on Jans. And there will be 10 meltdown threads between now the final buzzer of the SEC tourney. But this team is going to be an incredibly tough out come NCAA tournament time.

I hope we travel well as a fan base this post-season. It'll make a HUGE difference. If the committee is friendly, we could make a big run.

Truth here.

[EdwardDrayton]

Not quite ready to annoint him at that level yet. We are a much improved team but we have in-game stretches of shifting into low IQ lapses. We're a solid top twenty team but we will have to be better to beat top ten teams more often than not.

[Political Hack]

Not quite ready to annoint him at that level yet. We are a much improved team but we have in-game stretches of shifting into low IQ lapses. We're a solid top twenty team but we will have to be better to beat top ten teams more often than not.

He hasn't earned it yet. Williams made a Final Four. But we have an elite coach and I think he's about to prove it. We are fundamental and incredibly tough defensively, even against teams that move the ball well. We have bigs that can run the court and play end to end with soft hands and good feet. We understand how to move the ball and play with leverage on offense. And we can shoot. And we don't $?|+ the bed at the free throw line. I really like this squad.

[Coach34]

Not quite ready to annoint him at that level yet. We are a much improved team but we have in-game stretches of shifting into low IQ lapses. We're a solid top twenty team but we will have to be better to beat top ten teams more often than not.

Jan got 2 teams to the NCAA's that couldnt ****ing shoot. That is more impressive than what is going on right now. He has players that can shoot it now. Notice nobody is complaining now about FT shooting? We shoot 70% as a team now because we have players that can put the bal in the basket. It's always irked me fans blaming the HC about FT shooting. FT shooting will always correlate with a team's shooting percentage from the field

[EdwardDrayton]

He hasn't earned it yet. Williams made a Final Four. But we have an elite coach and I think he's about to prove it. We are fundamental and incredibly tough defensively, even against teams that move the ball well. We have bigs that can run the court and play end to end with soft hands and good feet. We understand how to move the ball and play with leverage on offense. And we can shoot. And we don't $?|+ the bed at the free throw line. I really like this squad.

We were MUCH better from the line against Vandy. But we're either last or next to last from the line in the conference. Hoping the Vandy game begins a better trend but at the moment it's still a concern.

[Political Hack]

We were MUCH better from the line against Vandy. But we're either last or next to last from the line in the conference. Hoping the Vandy game begins a better trend but at the moment it's still a concern.

They look much improved to me coming out of the break. Numbers are still bad overall, but it looks like they've put in some work and are getting more comfortable. And we have shooters. Over 75% as a team with 1 or 2 guys you can get the ball to at the end of games that don't miss is all you need.

[Coach34]

We are up almost 4% at the line over last year

[Todd4State]

The 1995 and 1996 basketball teams were the best basketball teams we have had in modern history. We have been looking for that formula ever since and it looks like we finally found it.

Richard Williams was a really good basketball coach. Structured. Disciplined. Preached defense and toughness. His offenses were good when he had players and tough to watch when the talent level decreased. The down side of Williams was that he hated recruiting. Williams had to have a guy that could do the lionshare of that part for him. In the early years of his tenure he had John Brady handling most of that for him and that brought us our first SEC basketball title in 28 years in 1991. Once Brady left he brought in Rick Standsbury as his main recruiting guy along with Robert Kirby. Those guys brought in the bunch that led us to the great teams of 95 and 96

Exit Williams and Stands gets promoted to HC. He and Kirby continue to scour the lands for players and did pretty well. However, losing the quality coaching of Williams hampered the program from achieving previous heights. They were able to add another SEC title to the rafters but unfortunately wilted each March.

It's been another 29 years now since 1996 with us being unable to revive that magic until now. State has found their coaching/recruiting combo this time in one guy. A guy that has the X's and O's game but also has the vision and drive to bring in the players to make that vision happen. Enjoy what we are watching this season fellas. It's been awhile.

Richard Williams is my favorite all time MSU basketball coach.

We'll see how this season plays out but it looks really good so far.

[EdwardDrayton]

We are up almost 4% at the line over last year

We rank 223rd in FT%.

[EdwardDrayton]

Jan got 2 teams to the NCAA's that couldnt ****ing shoot. That is more impressive than what is going on right now. He has players that can shoot it now. Notice nobody is complaining now about FT shooting? We shoot 70% as a team now because we have players that can put the bal in the basket. It's always irked me fans blaming the HC about FT shooting. FT shooting will always correlate with a team's shooting percentage from the field

Said every coach ever to their AD. "I'm not responsible; you can't hold me accountable." Coaches are responsible and accountable for every aspect of their team's performance. It's their job and they get paid handsomely for it.

[Pancho]

FT% in many cases goes back to the players junior high days when they weren't properly taught how to shoot the free pitch.

[Coach34]

We rank 223rd in FT%.

because our two worst shooters- Matthews and Nwoko have taken about 1/3 of our FT attempts. Remove those 2? The rest of the team shoots 79.3%

[StarkVegasSteve]

We're going to lose games. Some of them will be a players fault. Some will be on Jans. And there will be 10 meltdown threads between now the final buzzer of the SEC tourney. But this team is going to be an incredibly tough out come NCAA tournament time.

I hope we travel well as a fan base this post-season. It'll make a HUGE difference. If the committee is friendly, we could make a big run.

Then we better hope for the regional in Lexington or Raleigh. I just don't see our fan base traveling to Providence, Seattle, Wichita, Cleveland, Denver, or Milwaukee. And we need to find a way into the South Regional and get to play in Atlanta for a possible S16 and E8.

[RockyDog]

We're going to lose games. Some of them will be a players fault. Some will be on Jans. And there will be 10 meltdown threads between now the final buzzer of the SEC tourney. But this team is going to be an incredibly tough out come NCAA tournament time.

I hope we travel well as a fan base this post-season. It'll make a HUGE difference. If the committee is friendly, we could make a big run.

Agreed on all counts.

ESPN had an article yesterday basically re-ranking the top 75 teams. They had 4 teams in tier 1 (natty contenders) about 10 teams in tier 2 including Memphis and we were at the top of tier 3. They seemed to indicate that we still needed to show more and the outcome of our first 5 games would tell the tale. Head scratcher.

We seem to ALWAYS fall into the show us more category no matter how good our teams are. The metrics AND head to head already show that Memphis isn?t at our level. It?s a damn joke with some of these publications

[Political Hack]

Historically about 80% of the NCAA's budget came from the basketball tournament so they've always prioritized getting butts in seats. Hopefully we're the top 3 or 4 seed rather than the last 2, 3, or 4 seed.

Raleigh -> Atlanta
Lexington -> Atlanta

Either of those happen, watch out.

[R2Dawg]

2003-2004 dawgs were as good. They just ran into Xavier.
this team really has the parts. Stay focused boys for 3 months. Take care of your bodies and stay away from the skirts except for the night after the game.

Absolutely. They got to #2 in the country. Yeah we lost in tourney but that might be the best overall team assembled. Road warriors 8-0 on road in SEC. Roberts, Vincent (Cam is modern day Vincent), Bowers, Power, Frazier, and a good bench.

The Rhodes, Gordon teams were pretty good too.

Stans had some good teams just lost it in the end, kinda like Jackie but both had the longest stretch of success in MSU history in their sport.

[R2Dawg]

Agreed on all counts.

ESPN had an article yesterday basically re-ranking the top 75 teams. They had 4 teams in tier 1 (natty contenders) about 10 teams in tier 2 including Memphis and we were at the top of tier 3. They seemed to indicate that we still needed to show more and the outcome of our first 5 games would tell the tale. Head scratcher.

We seem to ALWAYS fall into the show us more category no matter how good our teams are. The metrics AND head to head already show that Memphis isn?t at our level. It?s a damn joke with some of these publications

Ha, and OleMiss only shows a cup cake schedule but they get a pass.

[confucius say]

Going to be 12 sec teams in the big dance and none of the first weekend host sites are in the south. That sucks. All 12 will be hoping for Raleigh or Lexington.

[NWADAWG]

Jan got 2 teams to the NCAA's that couldnt ****ing shoot. That is more impressive than what is going on right now. He has players that can shoot it now. Notice nobody is complaining now about FT shooting? We shoot 70% as a team now because we have players that can put the bal in the basket. It's always irked me fans blaming the HC about FT shooting. FT shooting will always correlate with a team's shooting percentage from the field

We've been very post play focused for many of those past years. => Post players getting fouled => Post players shooting a large percentage of free throws => lower free throw percentage.

Now we have lots of shooters getting fouled => higher free throw percentage.

[1bigdawg]

Historically about 80% of the NCAA's budget came from the basketball tournament so they've always prioritized getting butts in seats. Hopefully we're the top 3 or 4 seed rather than the last 2, 3, or 4 seed.

Raleigh -> Atlanta
Lexington -> Atlanta

Either of those happen, watch out.

TV Revenue is a much bigger deal than butts in seats. I does still count, though.

[MBDawg601]

This aged well...

[klong-dog]

This is a top 10 team plain and simple. I think we end up a 2-3 seed and I may be underestimating this team.

First time in almost 20 years I'm going to be hoping the 2nd weekend of where MSU could play is somewhere in the South.



Whewww amazing what a month can do.

[NCMSTFAN]

😂😂 We all get caught in the moment! But when you go back and read things we've said... yea we all sound kinda dumb.

I still think Jans is a solid coach and feel like this team can still make some noise but we should all probably pump the brakes a little on how good of a coach alot of us thinks he is, including myself.

[MaroonFlounder]

Is Jans the basketball version of Dan Mullen? Generally beats who he's supposed to beat, but nothing special.

[Pancho]

it'll be this way in the $ec forever. Jans needs what other schools have, better players and depth and be able to sign good free throw shooters. Jans is fine

[gtowndawg]

I'm frustrated with the team, but we just need to stay the course. We have much bigger problems on that campus right now.

[CaptainObvious]

I'm frustrated with the team, but we just need to stay the course. We have much bigger problems on that campus right now.

You cannot just drop a "bigger problems" bomb on us like this? Spill it! And we already know about the Indian Burial Grounds!

[Coursesuper]

I'm frustrated with the team, but we just need to stay the course. We have much bigger problems on that campus right now.

Oh Shit!! You don't say. It can't be!

[RezDog7]

Yeah, I need to hear it before I move my daughter up there in Aug.

[Saltydog]

YES! Yes he is. . . . .

[klong-dog]

I'm frustrated with the team, but we just need to stay the course. We have much bigger problems on that campus right now.

He's talking about all the liberalism.

[Coach34]

I thought he was taking about football being shitty

[1eyedog]

this is great stuff, just need another bull power forward, shooting guard and dominating center.......Wiley Peck, Ray white and a great center.......

[MBDawg601]

And to be clear... I was not exempt from this false hope. I thought we were legit.

I think as a fan base; we are starving for any type of success. We have had a fairly stale, and borderline disastrous past few years in the major sports. We need something positive to happen to re-energize the school.

[gtowndawg]

I thought he was taking about football being shitty

Yeah guys, sorry this went sideways somehow. I was just referring to our football program.

[Johnson85]

And to be clear... I was not exempt from this false hope. I thought we were legit.

I think as a fan base; we are starving for any type of success. We have had a fairly stale, and borderline disastrous past few years in the major sports. We need something positive to happen to re-energize the school.

We are not as good as we thought we were but we are still pretty good and I think most years there is an Elite 8 team no better than us and several Sweet 16 teams no better than us.

I'd love to have an elite team, but if you consistently make the tournament, good things will happen in the tournament eventually. Bama went to an Elite 8 with Mark Gottfried. If we can keep Jans, we will very likely have some tournament runs too.

[NCMSTFAN]

A win at Ole Miss will make us all feel better, but right now it just seems like we've lost whatever we had going early in the year.

[PGHBulldogBG]

A win at Ole Miss will make us all feel better, but right now it just seems like we've lost whatever we had going early in the year.

What we had going early in the year was not playing top 25 teams outside of Memphis. Then we started playing top 15 teams and so we started losing games. We are still beating the non top 25 teams, we just can't beat the top half of the conference that is ranked.

[R2Dawg]

And to be clear... I was not exempt from this false hope. I thought we were legit.

I think as a fan base; we are starving for any type of success. We have had a fairly stale, and borderline disastrous past few years in the major sports. We need something positive to happen to re-energize the school.

This is true. We just in a major funk across the board. We need to energy in a program soon.

Man remember back in 13-21. We were kicking butt across the board. Goose eggs since 21 across the board and its 2025.

[MBDawg601]

This is true. We just in a major funk across the board. We need to energy in a program soon.

Man remember back in 13-21. We were kicking butt across the board. Goose eggs since 21 across the board and its 2025.

13-21 was PEAK. What a time...

[Coach34]

This is not the same team it was a month ago. It is completely out of sync. They need to make some adjustments and get right soon.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Get to the tournament and let the chips fall where they may. This schedule is going to help us come tournament time. I've said this for 20+ years, no one gives a flying 17 what you do in January and February. It's all about March. JUST GET IN THE TOURNAMENT.

Also, we're acting like making the tournament is a letdown. If Jans gets to the tournament, he will tie Richard Williams for second most appearances as a coach and only be 3 behind Rick Stansbury. Some of the fanbase has to stop this thinking that because we won some division championships when 4 of the 6 teams in our division didn't give a 17 about basketball that we're a blue blood. We're not. It's kind of like baseball, we gave some sort of crap when no one else did.

[Goldendawg]

Another chance to make a statement win on the road tomorrow as OM is now #19 and we have dropped to #22. Can Jans make changes needed on both "O" and "D" and get this much needed win?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Another chance to make a statement win on the road tomorrow as OM is now #19 and we have dropped to #22. Can Jans make changes needed on both "O" and "D" and get this much needed win?

You're not changing D at this point. It is what it is. We just have to get some offense flowing. The good news is that we should be playing pretty loose tomorrow. They are the ones with the pressure.

[Dawgology]

Team is what it is. Cooked. They will squeak into the tournament and go out in the first round. SSDD. Time to move on to baseball.

[Political Hack]

If we can could hit an outside shot we'd be dangerous. We just have to get hot during the tourney to have a chance. I still think this team can play with anyone in the country, outside of maybe 4-8 teams.