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msstate7
01-07-2025, 01:48 PM
Guess I just don't pay attention, but wow, USM made a great hire. How did they pull him from Marshall?

StarkVegasSteve
01-07-2025, 02:04 PM
His contract ran out and neither side chose to renew. USM did not pull him from Marshall. He would have stayed at Marshall and actually held off going to USM because he thought he could get the UNC job. He wants to be at USM one year max.

Pancho
01-07-2025, 02:04 PM
Marshall admin didn't want him so he took half the team with him thru the portal.

msu15
01-07-2025, 02:13 PM
Keeping himself warm for our job in case Lebby repeats 2-10 this year.

TrapGame
01-07-2025, 02:27 PM
Keeping himself warm for our job in case Lebby repeats 2-10 this year.

Not gonna lie, if Lebby goes 2-10 again he deserves it.

Hell, if Huff beats us with Marshalls dudes and USM's leftovers in his first year he should be asked to name his price after the game.

Goldendawg
01-07-2025, 03:51 PM
Not gonna lie, if Lebby goes 2-10 again he deserves it.

Hell, if Huff beats us with Marshalls dudes and USM's leftovers in his first year he should be asked to name his price after the game.

We already have a 2-10 with a Toledo included in that. No way he should survive another 2-10 or a 3-9 that includes a USM to open the 2025 season. Only 17 players left from the 4 or so previous coaches so it's his team now. Coaching changes/additions to his staff is a good start.

DownwardDawg
01-07-2025, 05:19 PM
First time in years I've even been the least bit worried about losing to USM.

parabrave
01-07-2025, 05:22 PM
Wonder if Brett opened his Wallet?

KB21
01-07-2025, 05:31 PM
Not sure what the infatuation some have with Huff is. He's a very meh coach. Marshall didn't want him back. He had no chance of landing a bigger job. He doesn't bring an edge for a team schematically. He's overrated as a recruiter.

msstate7
01-07-2025, 05:39 PM
Not sure what the infatuation some have with Huff is. He's a very meh coach. Marshall didn't want him back. He had no chance of landing a bigger job. He doesn't bring an edge for a team schematically. He's overrated as a recruiter.

USM has been horrible, and for them to get a coach that's won at a better job is a homerun for them. Now sure why it's hard to understand.

maroonmania
01-07-2025, 05:57 PM
Not sure what the infatuation some have with Huff is. He's a very meh coach. Marshall didn't want him back. He had no chance of landing a bigger job. He doesn't bring an edge for a team schematically. He's overrated as a recruiter.

I'm certainly not infatuated with him but he just won the Sun Belt. That's way more than our coach (who had never been a HC) has ever accomplished.

AROB44
01-07-2025, 06:25 PM
I'm certainly not infatuated with him but he just won the Sun Belt. That's way more than our coach (who had never been a HC) has ever accomplished.

Our coach has been here one year and seems like some people want him gone. BFD....Huff won the Sun Belt. I'll still take Lebby. I think we have a good coach who stepped into a steaming pile of s**t. I'm willing to give him a pass on this past year......unlike some on here.

Pancho
01-07-2025, 06:35 PM
Lebby is as good as the next guy, if he had all the next guys players. Give him time.

DownwardDawg
01-07-2025, 07:34 PM
Lebby is as good as the next guy, if he had all the next guys players. Give him time.

This is what I'm hoping for.
But if he loses to USM, he's toast.

TrapGame
01-07-2025, 07:37 PM
I 100% believe Lebby gets us to 6-6 next season. We will see some marked improvement. And this is what it should with year two and a good portal haul. However, if by some chance it's a roving cluster**** of incompetence and we finish 2-10/3-9 then yes, Lebby needs to go. But, for the record, I do not believe that happens.

PGHBulldogBG
01-07-2025, 07:55 PM
Marshall just won their conference and didn?t want their coach back? I would love to have more information on that one

maroonmania
01-07-2025, 08:43 PM
Our coach has been here one year and seems like some people want him gone. BFD....Huff won the Sun Belt. I'll still take Lebby. I think we have a good coach who stepped into a steaming pile of s**t. I'm willing to give him a pass on this past year......unlike some on here.

I don't necessarily want him gone just yet but going 2-10 with that defense and then retaining the DC and the whole defensive staff sure doesn't give me a warm fuzzy. I will say that MSU always seems to want to go the route of the first time head coach, and outside of Mullen, they have all been major failures. And I'm talking Felker, Croom, Morehead and Arnett. Sherrill and Leach both worked out pretty well overall as experienced HCs. Just a little tired of these OJT head coaches we have to give time to learn the job when there are winning HCs even at the G5 level that could come in more ready to do what it takes to win sooner.

StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2025, 09:11 AM
Marshall just won their conference and didn?t want their coach back? I would love to have more information on that one

Huff thinks a lot of Huff. Marshall did not hold Huff in that same regard. They had no problem extending the contract, but not for what he wanted. He also did not get near what he wanted from Marshall at Southern. I like Charles and I think he is a good guy, but his inflated view of himself cost us Eric Gray and Jerrion Ealy when he was here because he spent 6 months chasing John Emery. He has told everyone around that program that will listen, he is there for a year. He wants a P4 job and he thinks he can win 7-8 at USM and get one this offseason.

KB21
01-08-2025, 09:23 AM
I'm certainly not infatuated with him but he just won the Sun Belt. That's way more than our coach (who had never been a HC) has ever accomplished.

Kevin Barbay was also considered to be a top offensive coordinator in the Sun Belt. How did that work out? Huff is very meh as a coach. What exactly does he bring that gives his team an edge? He won because Marshall simply is able to get more talent than the other Sun Belt teams.

basedog
01-08-2025, 09:55 AM
I'd pass on Huff. Something doesn't seem right bout him.

maroonmania
01-08-2025, 03:27 PM
Kevin Barbay was also considered to be a top offensive coordinator in the Sun Belt. How did that work out? Huff is very meh as a coach. What exactly does he bring that gives his team an edge? He won because Marshall simply is able to get more talent than the other Sun Belt teams.

Not sure who thought that? Really don't know anyone excited about the Barbay hire when Arnett made it.

StarkVegasSteve
01-08-2025, 03:34 PM
Not sure who thought that? Really don't know anyone excited about the Barbay hire when Arnett made it.

Oh there were plenty. Hell there were plenty on this board. Thought we were going to run PA concepts and deep shots. Spoiler: we did not.

was21
01-09-2025, 11:13 AM
Wonder if Brett opened his Wallet?

More likely it was the Duff brothers. Favre doesn't give money away, he steals it.

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2025, 11:20 AM
More likely it was the Duff brothers. Favre doesn't give money away, he steals it.

The Duff brothers give as much to Mississippi State and Ole Miss as they do USM. Southern just got lucky they could get Huff at a discount. Hell they're paying him just a bit more than they were paying Will Hall

TrapGame
01-09-2025, 11:58 AM
Oh there were plenty. Hell there were plenty on this board. Thought we were going to run PA concepts and deep shots. Spoiler: we did not.

Yep. As some posters around here postulated (not me, I'll own it) Barbay was not the chief play caller at App State. The head coach had a lot of input with the offense and Barbay was basically running the coach's scheme, not his.

Todd4State
01-09-2025, 12:10 PM
Yep. As some posters around here postulated (not me, I'll own it) Barbay was not the chief play caller at App State. The head coach had a lot of input with the offense and Barbay was basically running the coach's scheme, not his.

Their head coach actually demoted him quietly during the season and called plays.

StarkVegasSteve
01-09-2025, 12:15 PM
Yep. As some posters around here postulated (not me, I'll own it) Barbay was not the chief play caller at App State. The head coach had a lot of input with the offense and Barbay was basically running the coach's scheme, not his.

Oh I fell into the trap too, even though I knew he had playcalling duties stripped from him at App State and was nothing more than a position coach

maroonmania
01-09-2025, 08:35 PM
Oh there were plenty. Hell there were plenty on this board. Thought we were going to run PA concepts and deep shots. Spoiler: we did not.

If we had a lot of fans excited about Barbay then it was just blind optimism. I'm not saying if we had gone the G5 HC route that Huff would be anywhere close to my first choice but USM fans have a lot more reason to be enthusiastic about Huff than we did about Barbay as an OC. I thought it was known even at the time that Barbay didn't have full control of his offense at App St. Not even sure he had autonomy at CMU.

Todd4State
01-10-2025, 12:38 AM
If we had a lot of fans excited about Barbay then it was just blind optimism. I'm not saying if we had gone the G5 HC route that Huff would be anywhere close to my first choice but USM fans have a lot more reason to be enthusiastic about Huff than we did about Barbay as an OC. I thought it was known even at the time that Barbay didn't have full control of his offense at App St. Not even sure he had autonomy at CMU.

I got into MANY arguments with Paul Jones and Robbie Faulk over it. I said that he was demoted and I had some concerns and they were usually like "You're just mad because it isn't the Air Raid."

At the time though there was some thought that Barbay was going to keep elements of the Air Raid and just put his spin on the running game essentially and add play action, motion, and a TE. We all know that didn't happen. To be fair, perhaps they were lied to like others were.

Apparently they had an axe to grind with Leach because he didn't hire Bumphis- or to be more factual Bumphis refused to accept the RB coach job he was offered and I think they didn't like the fact that Leach would show up to interviews whenever. I guess they were worried about Two Brothers running out of food or something.

Many of their loyalists insisted that Barbay's offense was going to be better than Leach. They touted some Dave Bartoo matrix (L. O. L.) from the Bo Bounds show and App State stats to back up their point.

TheLostDawg
01-10-2025, 07:20 AM
I got into MANY arguments with Paul Jones and Robbie Faulk over it. I said that he was demoted and I had some concerns and they were usually like "You're just mad because it isn't the Air Raid."

At the time though there was some thought that Barbay was going to keep elements of the Air Raid and just put his spin on the running game essentially and add play action, motion, and a TE. We all know that didn't happen. To be fair, perhaps they were lied to like others were.

Apparently they had an axe to grind with Leach because he didn't hire Bumphis- or to be more factual Bumphis refused to accept the RB coach job he was offered and I think they didn't like the fact that Leach would show up to interviews whenever. I guess they were worried about Two Brothers running out of food or something.

Many of their loyalists insisted that Barbay's offense was going to be better than Leach. They touted some Dave Bartoo matrix (L. O. L.) from the Bo Bounds show and App State stats to back up their point.

As long as the oc search took (at least it seemed), I think many of us knew they were just trying to spin something. Barbay certainly wasn't the first choice

StarkVegasSteve
01-10-2025, 09:42 AM
I got into MANY arguments with Paul Jones and Robbie Faulk over it. I said that he was demoted and I had some concerns and they were usually like "You're just mad because it isn't the Air Raid."

At the time though there was some thought that Barbay was going to keep elements of the Air Raid and just put his spin on the running game essentially and add play action, motion, and a TE. We all know that didn't happen. To be fair, perhaps they were lied to like others were.

Apparently they had an axe to grind with Leach because he didn't hire Bumphis- or to be more factual Bumphis refused to accept the RB coach job he was offered and I think they didn't like the fact that Leach would show up to interviews whenever. I guess they were worried about Two Brothers running out of food or something.

Many of their loyalists insisted that Barbay's offense was going to be better than Leach. They touted some Dave Bartoo matrix (L. O. L.) from the Bo Bounds show and App State stats to back up their point.

This is it. This is the reason. The press conference thing I never understood. Like that is your job. You act like you have better things to do. I mean your literal job is to cover the team, you can sit there for an extra 30 minutes and wait. With the Bumphis thing, we told Hadad and Faulk to shut the hell up about that. They kept harping on it so we leaked it to Steve that he was offered a position coach job and turned it down. We actually were not going to do that, but when they kept going scorched earth acting like Leach disrespected him, we got tired of it.

You're also right about the Two Brothers thing. I've never seen two grown men fall over themselves more trying to praise a restaurant. Like the food is good, but they act like it, and the new restaurant, are God's gift to the culinary world. It's not THAT good.