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MoreCowbell
01-05-2025, 05:44 PM
that he is in a position to build something great in his name and make MSU mens basketball our premier sports program here. Seeing that there is actually a legit coach in place and that we actually HAVE A CHANCE to have real success in basketball I would wholeheartedly be on board with giving to NIL basketball. 10-12 players makes seeing a tangible difference with donations possible.

I live in Mobile and already have 4 games I am for sure driving up for.

Pancho
01-05-2025, 06:10 PM
excellent

Goldendawg
01-05-2025, 08:22 PM
that he is in a position to build something great in his name and make MSU mens basketball our premier sports program here. Seeing that there is actually a legit coach in place and that we actually HAVE A CHANCE to have real success in basketball I would wholeheartedly be on board with giving to NIL basketball. 10-12 players makes seeing a tangible difference with donations possible.

I live in Mobile and already have 4 games I am for sure driving up for.

Unless it has changed you can designate the % of your NIL donation to any sport(s) that you wish.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-05-2025, 08:33 PM
Hopefully our administration sees it.

Coach34
01-05-2025, 09:06 PM
We have promised Jan everything he needs to be successful

He wont leave us because we didnt agree on something he needs. But we cant stop him from wanting a Blue Blood job.

NCMSTFAN
01-05-2025, 09:53 PM
I hate discussing Jans leaving in the middle of the season but its reality. He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer. That being said, we know what happens when a coach has National success here... They leave. Vic did it and Mullen did it.

I would love to see a guy like Jans embrace the fact that he is coaching in the best conference, and not necessarily go for the "glamor" blue blood job. I understand Mississippi State isn't Duke or Kansas but damn we aren't chopped liver either, we play in the SEC. Starkville is a small town but it's a Collge town and the Coaches and players are literally celebrities. Id love to see him embrace that!

And for what it's worth I live in North Carolina and go to Duke and Chapel hill several times a year, both areas are severely overrated!!

SPMT
01-05-2025, 10:01 PM
I hate discussing Jans leaving in the middle of the season but its reality. He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer. That being said, we know what happens when a coach has National success here... They leave. Vic did it and Mullen did it.

I would love to see a guy like Jans embrace the fact that he is coaching in the best conference, and not necessarily go for the "glamor" blue blood job. I understand Mississippi State isn't Duke or Kansas but damn we aren't chopped liver either, we play in the SEC. Starkville is a small town but it's a Collge town and the Coaches and players are literally celebrities. Id love to see him embrace that!

And for what it's worth I live in North Carolina and go to Duke and Chapel hill several times a year, both areas are severely overrated!!

Haven?t been to a game at either, but with regard to the towns??they are definitely nothing special. Basically just another college town.

Homedawg
01-05-2025, 10:39 PM
We have promised Jan everything he needs to be successful

He wont leave us because we didnt agree on something he needs. But we cant stop him from wanting a Blue Blood job.

Spot on.

parabrave
01-05-2025, 11:20 PM
Haven?t been to a game at either, but with regard to the towns??they are definitely nothing special. Basically just another college town.

Spent three years at FT Bragg in the 80s and used to go up there regularly. Raleigh was a bigger Jackson and nothing special about Durham or Chapel Hill. Had much better times in Greenville with ECU coeds.

AROB44
01-06-2025, 06:52 AM
He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer.


Babe McCarthy......the absolute best.

basedog
01-06-2025, 07:43 AM
He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer.


Babe McCarthy......the absolute best.

Most have no clue about how good he was and our basketball program. I was very young but use to listen to the radio with Jack.

Btw, I told you after we beat SC that the talk would be Jans leaving.

confucius say
01-06-2025, 08:23 AM
Just enjoy this season. It should be fun.
I fully expect a school like Texas to come after Jans in March/April.

It is Selmon's job to always have a replacement list ready.

msstate7
01-06-2025, 08:40 AM
Just enjoy this season. It should be fun.
I fully expect a school like Texas to come after Jans in March/April.

It is Selmon's job to always have a replacement list ready.

Will wade and keep on rolling

NCMSTFAN
01-06-2025, 10:56 AM
He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer.


Babe McCarthy......the absolute best.

I can't argue with that, he was just well before my time.

klong-dog
01-06-2025, 10:56 AM
Personally, I'd rather do it where it hasn't been done before. Why follow in other big named coaches foot steps and put immaculate pressure to be elite, or else you get axed.

cheewgumm
01-06-2025, 12:41 PM
I have totally changed the way i think about sports, given NIL and TP.

One year at a time. This year has nothing to do with the next.

I think that you have to take that in coaches as well. Who knows what will happen? Enjoy this year. We hvae a chance NOW. If you evern think this is the start of something great, it probably isnt, so enjoy this NOW.

As an example, when we went to final 4 in 96, my thoughts were "Now we will be able to recruit great players and become a power in basketball." Well, here wer are 30 years later, and have not sniffed the final 4 since.

Tripp McNeely
01-06-2025, 01:11 PM
Regardless of whether Jans stays or moves on to a blue blood, he has elevated the program's status, and hiring a comparable coach, when he inevitably leaves, will be much easier since he has proven that you can recruit on an elite level, win big, and the program is MORE than willing to spend money to help out next coach be successful...that's all we can ask. Keep elevating the program!

RockyDog
01-06-2025, 01:35 PM
Regardless of whether Jans stays or moves on to a blue blood, he has elevated the program's status, and hiring a comparable coach, when he inevitably leaves, will be much easier since he has proven that you can recruit on an elite level, win big, and the program is MORE than willing to spend money to help out next coach be successful...that's all we can ask. Keep elevating the program!

Maybe the 3rd time is the charm. We said the same thing about Bury and hired Clemson's 3rd assistant. We said the same thing about Vic and hired Louisville's 3rd assistant.

I'm with 7, have Wade ready on speed dial.

MoreCowbell
01-06-2025, 01:48 PM
Will wade and keep on rolling

That is a damn strong idea

QuadrupleOption
01-06-2025, 01:56 PM
I hate discussing Jans leaving in the middle of the season but its reality. He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer. That being said, we know what happens when a coach has National success here... They leave. Vic did it and Mullen did it.


I know I'm about to risk the wrath of the mob, but to this point, he's been more like Stansbury than anyone else. A couple of decent seasons followed by first-weekend exits in the NCAA tournament.

Don't get me wrong; I love watching his teams play defense, and I especially love the maturity of our offensive mindset this year. But unless he makes a Sweet 16 and Final Four, he's not the best basketball coach we've ever had. Not by a long shot.

I also think that him staying or leaving will depend on whether he feels like he can win big here, which is going to come down to NIL and his ability to recruit difference makers to play for us.

RockyDog
01-06-2025, 03:09 PM
I know I'm about to risk the wrath of the mob, but to this point, he's been more like Stansbury than anyone else. A couple of decent seasons followed by first-weekend exits in the NCAA tournament.

Don't get me wrong; I love watching his teams play defense, and I especially love the maturity of our offensive mindset this year. But unless he makes a Sweet 16 and Final Four, he's not the best basketball coach we've ever had. Not by a long shot.

I also think that him staying or leaving will depend on whether he feels like he can win big here, which is going to come down to NIL and his ability to recruit difference makers to play for us.

Not even close. Bury didn't sniff the NCAAT until season 4. He didn't begin his SEC West "Championship" run until season 5

Coach34
01-06-2025, 03:43 PM
Not even close. Bury didn't sniff the NCAAT until season 4. He didn't begin his SEC West "Championship" run until season 5

Him not making the NCAA's with that first team was a bad coaching job. It happens with first year HC's and such- but he had a vet team and had he just not messed it up they should have the Tourney

Tyrone Washington
Tang Hamilton
Bart Hyche
Detrick White
Todd Myles
Oral Roberts
Robert Jackson
Marckell Patterson

Radio
01-06-2025, 07:34 PM
I know I'm about to risk the wrath of the mob, but to this point, he's been more like Stansbury than anyone else. A couple of decent seasons followed by first-weekend exits in the NCAA tournament.

Don't get me wrong; I love watching his teams play defense, and I especially love the maturity of our offensive mindset this year. But unless he makes a Sweet 16 and Final Four, he's not the best basketball coach we've ever had. Not by a long shot.

I also think that him staying or leaving will depend on whether he feels like he can win big here, which is going to come down to NIL and his ability to recruit difference makers to play for us.

Last coach to beat UCONN in the tourney.

Lost to Auburn (final 4 team) by a free throw in 18-19.

The next year the tournament was canceled. In my opinion that was his best NMSU team (19-20) They went on a tear after beating State that year.

Small budget and a lot of second chance players. Dude can coach.

NCMSTFAN
01-06-2025, 11:01 PM
I know I'm about to risk the wrath of the mob, but to this point, he's been more like Stansbury than anyone else. A couple of decent seasons followed by first-weekend exits in the NCAA tournament.

Don't get me wrong; I love watching his teams play defense, and I especially love the maturity of our offensive mindset this year. But unless he makes a Sweet 16 and Final Four, he's not the best basketball coach we've ever had. Not by a long shot.

I also think that him staying or leaving will depend on whether he feels like he can win big here, which is going to come down to NIL and his ability to recruit difference makers to play for us.

I watched all of Stansbury's teams, he had some good ones but Jans will coach circles around Stans.

Coach34
01-06-2025, 11:18 PM
I watched all of Stansbury's teams, he had some good ones but Jans will coach circles around Stans.

Stands is Hugh Freezus minus the hypocritical Jesus pitch

Pancho
01-07-2025, 08:56 AM
Rev Freezus is speaking at a church up in north MS in April. He still has followers.

Bothrops
01-08-2025, 12:17 AM
Jans may be the best roster builder out there.

SPMT
01-08-2025, 12:43 AM
Spent three years at FT Bragg in the 80s and used to go up there regularly. Raleigh was a bigger Jackson and nothing special about Durham or Chapel Hill. Had much better times in Greenville with ECU coeds.

Fact

SPMT
01-08-2025, 12:46 AM
Dude is this best coach we?ve had since I?ve been watching. Definitely the best currently on campus.

smootness
01-08-2025, 12:51 AM
But unless he makes a Sweet 16 and Final Four, he's not the best basketball coach we've ever had. Not by a long shot.

Please. Assuming we make the Tourney this year, Jans will have made it as many times in 3 years as Richard Williams did in 12.

QuadrupleOption
01-09-2025, 10:38 AM
Please. Assuming we make the Tourney this year, Jans will have made it as many times in 3 years as Richard Williams did in 12.

Stans made 4 in a row and 6 in his tenure. Was he a better coach than Williams too?

R2Dawg
01-09-2025, 01:20 PM
He may be the best basketball Coach we've had, including Vic Shaeffer.


Babe McCarthy......the absolute best.

OK, I'm as big a fan of Jans as anyone but Vic proved a whole other level. Jans got work to do to reach Vic status.

R2Dawg
01-09-2025, 01:23 PM
Him not making the NCAA's with that first team was a bad coaching job. It happens with first year HC's and such- but he had a vet team and had he just not messed it up they should have the Tourney

Tyrone Washington
Tang Hamilton
Bart Hyche
Detrick White
Todd Myles
Oral Roberts
Robert Jackson
Marckell Patterson

Pretty good group but they were not all good at the same time. Several were head cases at times - Tang and Jackson. Others were good but more role players.

smootness
01-09-2025, 03:51 PM
Stans made 4 in a row and 6 in his tenure. Was he a better coach than Williams too?

Arguably. We had more consistent success under Stans for sure. Williams built one really good team and that is it.

msu15
01-09-2025, 04:49 PM
Until Jans actually wins a game for us in the NCAA tournament(not to mention the outright SEC title and TWO SEC tournament titles), he doesn't go ahead of Rick at all.

Coach34
01-09-2025, 06:16 PM
Arguably. We had more consistent success under Stans for sure. Williams built one really good team and that is it.

Thats not true. The 1991 SEC Champ team was pretty good too. They dont lose in Round 1 had Merritte not been suspended the day before the game.

And let's not forget the 1995 team that made a Sweet 16 and was only put out because of having to play the National Champion that season

R2Dawg
01-09-2025, 07:12 PM
Arguably. We had more consistent success under Stans for sure. Williams built one really good team and that is it.

That 91 team won the SEC beating LSU - Shaq and Chris Jackson in the Hump (I was there and still best Hump atmosphere ever seen). We were not super talented but we played hard, smart and just good basketball.

Agree Stans had a lot of long term success that too many don't want to recognize.

R2Dawg
01-09-2025, 07:13 PM
Until Jans actually wins a game for us in the NCAA tournament(not to mention the outright SEC title and TWO SEC tournament titles), he doesn't go ahead of Rick at all.

Yep Jans still got work to do to pass Stans but the potential is right there to do so.

R2Dawg
01-09-2025, 07:15 PM
Stans made 4 in a row and 6 in his tenure. Was he a better coach than Williams too?

We got screwed out of tourney several times under Stans too. Had to hear the whole SECW is weak BS and got left out one year winning the SECW. Would only happen to MSU, not anyone else.

MoreCowbell
01-09-2025, 08:36 PM
Unless it has changed you can designate the % of your NIL donation to any sport(s) that you wish.

My family- Grandfather, mother, myself- are in process of setting up a yearly donation of $12,000 earmarked for basketball. My mom was a great hooper back in the day. Had NIL been around when Vic was here I would not have had any inheritance left. She loves her some Vic Schaefer

MoreCowbell
01-09-2025, 08:39 PM
Until Jans actually wins a game for us in the NCAA tournament(not to mention the outright SEC title and TWO SEC tournament titles), he doesn't go ahead of Rick at all.

Jans is hands down the better coach, that is not really up for debate. Stansbury has more accolades.

smootness
01-09-2025, 09:59 PM
Thats not true. The 1991 SEC Champ team was pretty good too. They dont lose in Round 1 had Merritte not been suspended the day before the game.

And let's not forget the 1995 team that made a Sweet 16 and was only put out because of having to play the National Champion that season

I was a little hyperbolic, but my point is that State fans think of him so highly purely as a result of one team he built (I am including both 95 and 96 as the one team because both years were essentially that same team). I do not say that to discredit that team or those years, they were fantastic. But Stans unquestionably had more consistency than Williams did. The 91 team was good but they were a 5 seed. Stans had multiple teams at that level.

Coach34
01-09-2025, 11:53 PM
Jans is hands down the better coach, that is not really up for debate. Stansbury has more accolades.

Stands was a really good recruiter. That cant be denied. That allowed him to achieve what he did

1bigdawg
01-10-2025, 01:17 PM
Thats not true. The 1991 SEC Champ team was pretty good too. They dont lose in Round 1 had Merritte not been suspended the day before the game.

And let's not forget the 1995 team that made a Sweet 16 and was only put out because of having to play the National Champion that season

Williams inherited a program that was terrible. Stans inherited an established one.

LC Dawg
01-10-2025, 02:41 PM
Thats not true. The 1991 SEC Champ team was pretty good too. They dont lose in Round 1 had Merritte not been suspended the day before the game.

And let's not forget the 1995 team that made a Sweet 16 and was only put out because of having to play the National Champion that season

And if Missouri hadn't let Edney drive the length of the floor the game before in '95 we wouldn't have had to face UCLA.
But the '91 team is my favorite and Cameron Burns is my favorite player. Probably because I was in school at the time but I loved watching that team.

basedog
01-10-2025, 02:45 PM
And if Missouri hadn't let Edney drive the length of the floor the game before in '95 we wouldn't have had to face UCLA.
But the '91 team is my favorite and Cameron Burns is my favorite player. Probably because I was in school at the time but I loved watching that team.

Cameron Burns was a beast being barely 6'5". Dude was fun to watch.