Kiffin does not realize

[MoreCowbell]

that his comments and actions this bowl season and since CFP selection has made him and Ole Miss a target for everyone outside of Oxford. Everyone is rooting for his downfall now and other coaches will be working twice as hard to beat his ass on the field, give dirt on him to others off record, be in recruits ears about his problems etc. Not to mention majority of America will be at his ass on all forms of social media and let him hear it anytime he fails.

I have just seen examples of this in life so many times where a douchebag like him always does too much and it inevitably comes back to bite them in the ass.

Plus he really is a shitty coach, way overrated. Good recruiter only because he is basically a college kid himself but his teams will never have discipline and players will never TRULY respect him.

[DEDawg]

that his comments and actions this bowl season and since CFP selection has made him and Ole Miss a target for everyone outside of Oxford. Everyone is rooting for his downfall now and other coaches will be working twice as hard to beat his ass on the field, give dirt on him to others off record, be in recruits ears about his problems etc. Not to mention majority of America will be at his ass on all forms of social media and let him hear it anytime he fails.

I have just seen examples of this in life so many times where a douchebag like him always does too much and it inevitably comes back to bite them in the ass.

Plus he really is a shitty coach, way overrated. Good recruiter only because he is basically a college kid himself but his teams will never have discipline and players will never TRULY respect him.

Shitty coaches don?t win 10 games at Ole Miss 3 out of the last 4 years

[MoreCowbell]

Shitty coaches don?t win 10 games at Ole Miss 3 out of the last 4 years

Shitty coaches lose to shitty Kentucky, mediocre LSU and mediocre Florida when they have a top 3 roster and best team in school history. He can recruit but he sucks in game no doubt

[CaptainObvious]

Shitty coaches lose to shitty Kentucky, mediocre LSU and mediocre Florida when they have a top 3 roster and best team in school history. He can recruit but he sucks in game no doubt

Let me know when he becomes available. We will all text Keenum to get off his ass and hire him! And every single critic wearing a maroon shirt will praise him for winning 8-9 games a.year for State!

[Pancho]

I'd take a cat who can win 9 or 10 annually in the SEC

[DownwardDawg]

Shitty coaches lose to shitty Kentucky, mediocre LSU and mediocre Florida when they have a top 3 roster and best team in school history. He can recruit but he sucks in game no doubt

People are too blinded to see this. With that roster, a good coach would not have lost any of those games. Maybe 1 to LSU or Florida but not all 3 and especially to Kentucky!!!
He's done a great job. He's a great recruiter and excellent at winning the portal. He's an average coach.

[RockyDog]

He’s adopted the asshole persona and it’s perfect because he leads a fanbase FULL of assholes. Just go read X formerly known as Twitter this morning. They can’t even revel in a win without citing 2-10 or calling Rosebowl a methhead junkie.

[Todd4State]

Let me know when he becomes available. We will all text Keenum to get off his ass and hire him! And every single critic wearing a maroon shirt will praise him for winning 8-9 games a.year for State!

When our coach loses to Kentucky most of our fans think they should be fired.

[DEDawg]

When our coach loses to Kentucky most of our fans think they should be fired.

Fan is short for fanatic. The way many feel after a loss is not rooted in reality or backed up with facts.

[Commercecomet24]

Lane is 4 and 29 against top 25 teams. He is om Dan Mullen. He feasts on the bad and mediocre teams(accept uk, lol).

[StarkVegasSteve]

When our coach loses to Kentucky most of our fans think they should be fired.

We also had fans wanting to fire Leach after losing to LSU in Death Valley in '22 and calling Arnett the greatest coach we've ever had before he had coached a game. Our fans aren't exactly the best barometer for how to be a successful program. That's not including all the gnashing of teeth and thumbing of noses at Mullen after he left. People saying Mullen was always overrated and we would be better off with Moorhead.

[Brobi-wan]

Lane is 4 and 29 against top 25 teams. He is om Dan Mullen. He feasts on the bad and mediocre teams(accept uk, lol).

That’s crazy if true. Especially considering the beat UGA this year.

[Bdawg]

Lane is 4 and 29 against top 25 teams. He is om Dan Mullen. He feasts on the bad and mediocre teams(accept uk, lol).

That’s very revealing.

[Commercecomet24]

That’s crazy if true. Especially considering the beat UGA this year.

Yeah I just saw this. It was sec head coaches records against teams that finished in the top 25. Lane was like 11 or 12 at 4 and 29.

[Todd4State]

We also had fans wanting to fire Leach after losing to LSU in Death Valley in '22 and calling Arnett the greatest coach we've ever had before he had coached a game. Our fans aren't exactly the best barometer for how to be a successful program. That's not including all the gnashing of teeth and thumbing of noses at Mullen after he left. People saying Mullen was always overrated and we would be better off with Moorhead.

Dan is overrated.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yeah I just saw this. It was sec head coaches records against teams that finished in the top 25. Lane was like 11 or 12 at 4 and 29.

That's the one thing most of the OM writers will tell you about Kiffin. He mostly wins the games he should, but just can't win the big win. Like his biggest win at OM is obviously UGA this year. His second biggest is probably LSU last year. But after that......

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dan is overrated.

We can agree to disagree on that one. Dan was a hell of a coach. Hell he took us to number 1. No other coach got remotely close to that one. Then he took Florida to back to back to back NY6 bowls. He's a pretty damn good coach.

[Commercecomet24]

Correction on Lane(This was before the 24 season) Lane went 1 and 1 against top 25 this year, so hes 5 and 24 now.

1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)

[Mjoelner34]

Lane is 4 and 29 against top 25 teams. He is om Dan Mullen. He feasts on the bad and mediocre teams(accept uk, lol).

Just at Ole Miss he is 9-9 (including bowl games) against teams that were ranked when he played them. From 2020-2023, Leach was 7-8 and Kiffin was 5-6.

[Commercecomet24]

Just at Ole Miss he is 9-9 (including bowl games) against teams that were ranked when he played them. From 2020-2023, Leach was 7-8 and Kiffin was 5-6.

The stat was HC recrods against teams that finished in the top 25.

Correction on Lane(This was before the 24 season) Lane went 1 and 1 against top 25 this year, so hes 5 and 24 now.

1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)

[Mjoelner34]

Yeah. I just went the easy way out by using wiki to show vs. teams ranked when they played to show he isn't anything to write home about there either.

[Todd4State]

We can agree to disagree on that one. Dan was a hell of a coach. Hell he took us to number 1. No other coach got remotely close to that one. Then he took Florida to back to back to back NY6 bowls. He's a pretty damn good coach.

Dan is a good coach and overrated by MSU fans. Both are true.

He took Florida to back to back NY6 bowls with players recruited by McElwain. And then he had the same type of seasons he had at MSU. The difference is MSU tolerated it because of our history. Florida did not. Jackie won the SEC West and had way more top 25 wins. Heck, Leach almost had as many in three years if I remember correctly.

One of Dan's best seasons was with players mostly recruited by Croom in 2010.

Basically he didn't lose many games that he shouldn't lose but at the same time he never really won many he shouldn't. So we never got very much splash outside of 2014. It is a lot like Kiffin and Freeze was probably their Jackie Sherrill in some ways with Kiffin being their Dan Mullen.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah. I just went the easy way out by using wiki to show vs. teams ranked when they played to show he isn't anything to write home about there either.

I gotcha. He just reminds me so much of Dan. Beat up on those with inferior talent and then can't get over the hump. Dan had a similar record against top 25. The 3 game stretch in 2014 where we beat am, auburn and lsu was about half his wins against top 25(and maybe some of those 3 weren't ranked at the end, i can't remember).

ETA. Lane blew a huge chance this year to really make a name for himself. He had a loaded roster(best money can buy, lol) and wound up in the gator bowl against half a duke team in a less than half full stadium.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dan is a good coach and overrated by MSU fans. Both are true.

He took Florida to back to back NY6 bowls with players recruited by McElwain. And then he had the same type of seasons he had at MSU. The difference is MSU tolerated it because of our history. Florida did not. Jackie won the SEC West and had way more top 25 wins. Heck, Leach almost had as many in three years if I remember correctly.

One of Dan's best seasons was with players mostly recruited by Croom in 2010.

Basically he didn't lose many games that he shouldn't lose but at the same time he never really won many he shouldn't. So we never got very much splash outside of 2014. It is a lot like Kiffin and Freeze was probably their Jackie Sherrill in some ways with Kiffin being their Dan Mullen.

Now that I can agree with. I thought you were saying Mullen is overrated. Overrated by our fan base is probably apt, although I think it's shifted way too far since he left. I think people remember the 2010,2014, and 2015 but forget the 2011, 2012, and 2016. I don't personally think Mullen is overrated because I think of him as a great X's and O's coach who won the games he was supposed to win and raised our profile to heights it had not been at since 98-2000. He still lost every game he coached to Bama, clammed up against LSU in 09 and 15, and clammed up against OM in 14 and 15.

[Commercecomet24]

Now that I can agree with. I thought you were saying Mullen is overrated. Overrated by our fan base is probably apt, although I think it's shifted way too far since he left. I think people remember the 2010,2014, and 2015 but forget the 2011, 2012, and 2016. I don't personally think Mullen is overrated because I think of him as a great X's and O's coach who won the games he was supposed to win and raised our profile to heights it had not been at since 98-2000. He still lost every game he coached to Bama, clammed up against LSU in 09 and 15, and clammed up against OM in 14 and 15.

I liked Dan but that "playing not to lose" thing he did in the big games drove me nuts.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I gotcha. He just reminds me so much of Dan. Beat up on those with inferior talent and then can't get over the hump. Dan had a similar record against top 25. The 3 game stretch in 2014 where we beat am, auburn and lsu was about half his wins against top 25(and maybe some of those 3 weren't ranked at the end, i can't remember).

ETA. Lane blew a huge chance this year to really make a name for himself. He had a loaded roster(best money can buy, lol) and wound up in the gator bowl against half a duke team in a less than half full stadium.

I'll say this, had they made the playoffs, they may have won the national championship. That defense was elite all year, a little like our 18 D, and it would've given a lot of problems to any team in the playoffs.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I liked Dan but that "playing not to lose" thing he did in the big games drove me nuts.

And that's the funny part, because the times he coached loose (first 3 quarters of LSU in 14, all of A&M in 14, 1st quarter of Auburn in 14, 16 Egg Bowl, first 3 quarters of Bama in 17) we were hell on wheels and no one could stop us because the scheme just gave defenses fits.

[Commercecomet24]

And that's the funny part, because the times he coached loose (first 3 quarters of LSU in 14, all of A&M in 14, 1st quarter of Auburn in 14, 16 Egg Bowl, first 3 quarters of Bama in 17) we were hell on wheels and no one could stop us because the scheme just gave defenses fits.

100%. He just couldn't help himself at times though.

[Mjoelner34]

ETA. Lane blew a huge chance this year to really make a name for himself. He had a loaded roster(best money can buy, lol) and wound up in the gator bowl against half a duke team in a less than half full stadium.

Yep. The KY game really killed him. Losing to a team at home that went 4-8 (1-7) because all he wanted to do was throw deep routes, run QB draws and refused to play his best RB. I don't remember if he made any boneheaded, no feel for the game or potential momentum swing 4th down analytic calls in that game.

[Mjoelner34]

100%. He just couldn't help himself at times though.

Yep. He needed what CoachNorm said he used to be for one of his coaches. Things would be going great then the coach would get out of rhythm and start going off in another direction and Norm would tell him to "Put down the crack pipe and keep doing what we're doing". I remember during our spring game that Cole Cublic said he asked Lebby if he had an "F You! guy" to do that and Lebby said he did. I forgot who Cole said it was.

[Maroons]

that his comments and actions this bowl season and since CFP selection has made him and Ole Miss a target for everyone outside of Oxford. Everyone is rooting for his downfall now and other coaches will be working twice as hard to beat his ass on the field, give dirt on him to others off record, be in recruits ears about his problems etc. Not to mention majority of America will be at his ass on all forms of social media and let him hear it anytime he fails.

Nah, nobody really cares outside of a portion of our fanbase. This is way overblown.

[DEDawg]

Nah, nobody really cares outside of a portion of our fanbase. This is way overblown.

Yep. I?m watching some no name bowl game and they were slobbering all over Kiffin?s d

[Turfdawg67]

The stat was HC recrods against teams that finished in the top 25.

Correction on Lane(This was before the 24 season) Lane went 1 and 1 against top 25 this year, so hes 5 and 24 now.

1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)

Wonder what Saban?s Top 25 win percentage is while at Bama only?

[viverlibre]

I think Tiffin knows exactly what he's doing, he trying to get attention. Much like Trump, he doesn't care if others think his attention seeking is good or bad. It seems to be working so far. I doubt his tweeting is going to incentivize an opposing coach to prepare harder to beat him than the opposing coach is already trying.

[BigDawg81]

He is a good coach for Ole Miss and their best coach since I have been alive and I am 43.
His biggest problem is that he cannot stfu and that is the reason why he cannot get a better job. He has been a whiner for a long time but it has been on another level since becoming a head coach in the SEC.

[DownwardDawg]

He is a good coach for Ole Miss and their best coach since I have been alive and I am 43.
His biggest problem is that he cannot stfu and that is the reason why he cannot get a better job. He has been a whiner for a long time but it has been on another level since becoming a head coach in the SEC.

If they hadn't fired Cutcliffe, they would have a couple of SEC championship game appearances. He was their best coach in your lifetime. I yelled at the TV with joy when the news popped up about them firing Cut. That was the dumbest thing they've done in my 57 years, and that's saying a lot.

[SPMT]

And that's the funny part, because the times he coached loose (first 3 quarters of LSU in 14, all of A&M in 14, 1st quarter of Auburn in 14, 16 Egg Bowl, first 3 quarters of Bama in 17) we were hell on wheels and no one could stop us because the scheme just gave defenses fits.

And that?s how Freeze beat Bama. He went all in and went for it. What?s the worse thing that can happen?.you lose, like everyone expects you to.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And that?s how Freeze beat Bama. He went all in and went for it. What?s the worse thing that can happen?.you lose, like everyone expects you to.

It also helped that Bama turned the ball over 7 times in two games against Freeze.