TCU AD

[BigDawg81]

TCU hired Army AD Mike Buddie
Hearing Selmon interviewed for this job 2 or 3 weeks ago

[KOdawg1]

It's no secret he's tried to get several jobs.

Let him go.

[RockyDog]

What does Salmon not like about Starkville besides some of the MSU fanbase?

[parabrave]

What does Salmon not like about Starkville besides some of the MSU fanbase?

It's not Texas or Oklahoma.

[Really Clark?]

TCU has a lot of money. About $30MIL more in just their athletic budget.

[BigDawg81]

Apparently, TCU wasn?t the only job that he has acquired about

[smootness]

It's no secret he's tried to get several jobs.

Let him go.

I just do not understand this philosophy.

?We only want people who have no career ambitions? is an interesting hill on which to die.

[AROB44]

Nothing wrong with trying to get a better job. Plus, if he gets one, the majority of message board posters will be over joyed. Seems most have been wanting him gone since he was hired.....without knowing what he was doing or accomplishing.

[smootness]

Nothing wrong with trying to get a better job. Plus, if he gets one, the majority of message board posters will be over joyed. Seems most have been wanting him gone since he was hired.....without knowing what he was doing or accomplishing.

It is the MSU way. Our AD is always the worst.

[Really Clark?]

I'm not getting that this is even true.

[KOdawg1]

I just do not understand this philosophy.

?We only want people who have no career ambitions? is an interesting hill on which to die.

Having career ambitions and trying to leave for several jobs, many which are at lesser athletic departments, are two different things.

I didn't say I didn't want him, but if he's not happy here and is actively looking for a way out, it's probably best he just do that. Even though it's pretty telling he hasn't been able to land one of those jobs. No one is going to hire a guy whose only hire to date just went 2-10.

[Extendedcab]

It is the MSU way. Our AD is always the worst.

Not only the AD, but coaches, staff, players, administration, professors, students, campus, Starkvegas and fans! We all suck according to a lot of posters.

[CaptainObvious]

Nothing wrong with trying to get a better job. Plus, if he gets one, the majority of message board posters will be over joyed. Seems most have been wanting him gone since he was hired...."".without knowing what he was doing or accomplishing"".

Seems like your last statement might answer you question about why most want him gone. He is a "Ghost". No one sees him. No one sees anything written by him. No one sees interviews of him. We had our Ninja, but that Ninja was up front and amongst the peasants!

[Cooterpoot]

Who cares? We'll just go hire a new guy when he leaves. As much as some of you complain about him, I wouldn't think you'd care if he left.

[Coach34]

Having career ambitions and trying to leave for several jobs, many which are at lesser athletic departments, are two different things.

I didn't say I didn't want him, but if he's not happy here and is actively looking for a way out, it's probably best he just do that. Even though it's pretty telling he hasn't been able to land one of those jobs. No one is going to hire a guy whose only hire to date just went 2-10.

TCU is not a lesser job than Miss State

[KOdawg1]

TCU is not a lesser job than Miss State

Good thing I wasn't talking about TCU

[HoopsDawg]

TCU is not a lesser job than Miss State

About equal. Depends on the person.

Gotta be honest, this really pisses me off. I would fire Selmon if this truly happened.

[Tough Dawg]

My understanding is he?s been wanting to leave Starkville shortly after he got here.

[HoopsDawg]

My understanding is he?s been wanting to leave Starkville shortly after he got here.

Starkville isn't for everyone. We need to find a competent AD who wants to be there.

[Really Clark?]

This is a false story. He didn't interview for the job.

[DEDawg]

Starkville isn't for everyone. We need to find a competent AD who wants to be there.

We all knew Cohen would be awful for the job and it was Busch league hiring a baseball coach to AD but people convinced themselves he loved MSU so much it doesn?t matter.

[Tough Dawg]

I blame Keenum. Or whoever is making this hire. Ultimately the leader needs to be held accountable

[Coach34]

About equal. Depends on the person.

Gotta be honest, this really pisses me off. I would fire Selmon if this truly happened.

Agree about equal but you cant fire someone for interviewing for another job. In today's world- it opens you up to wrongful termination lawsuits and with DEI judges you dont want to get into that crapshoot.

[DownwardDawg]

It's no secret he's tried to get several jobs.

Let him go.

Agree.

[basedog]

Agree about equal but you cant fire someone for interviewing for another job. In today's world- it opens you up to wrongful termination lawsuits and with DEI judges you dont want to get into that crapshoot.

It’s the way things are now days. Crazy money for players and coaches. Can’t blame someone looking or interviewing. Yes we fans may not like it but it’s always next man up.

[Coach34]

We all knew Cohen would be awful for the job and it was Busch league hiring a baseball coach to AD but people convinced themselves he loved MSU so much it doesn?t matter.

Cohen got us our only Natty. Stop painting him as some horrible AD. He may not have been the best all-around AD- but he didnt hire Sylvester Croom nor did he run Allyn McKeen into retirement for a .500 season- the only State coach to never have a losing season.

[vv83]

Cohen got us our only Natty. Stop painting him as some horrible AD. He may not have been the best all-around AD- but he didnt hire Sylvester Croom nor did he run Allyn McKeen into retirement for a .500 season- the only State coach to never have a losing season.

Comparing a bad AD to an ever worse AD does not make the first guy good. Cohen was a bad AD.

[Todd4State]

Cohen got us our only Natty. Stop painting him as some horrible AD. He may not have been the best all-around AD- but he didnt hire Sylvester Croom nor did he run Allyn McKeen into retirement for a .500 season- the only State coach to never have a losing season.

Yeah. People can complain about him "focusing on baseball" but at least it won a NC- something no other sport has accomplished. And that doesn't even include the other success the program had between 2016-2021.

[Todd4State]

Who cares? We'll just go hire a new guy when he leaves. As much as some of you complain about him, I wouldn't think you'd care if he left.

That's actually where I'm at with Selmon. If he left I wouldn't care that much. I don't think he has been bad either really. If he gets another job that is better than MSU it's because he did well when he was here and then we can hire someone else.

The most important thing is to keep it outside of the LT circle of athletic directors that has held MSU back for years.

[MoreCowbell]

Having career ambitions and trying to leave for several jobs, many which are at lesser athletic departments, are two different things.

I didn't say I didn't want him, but if he's not happy here and is actively looking for a way out, it's probably best he just do that. Even though it's pretty telling he hasn't been able to land one of those jobs. No one is going to hire a guy whose only hire to date just went 2-10.

If you think TCU is a lesser ath department than us now oh boy

[MoreCowbell]

It sucks our last 2 ADs, alumni, coach and athlete who grew up rooting for State, who both had success here chose to leave us for in conference rival schools. I get it but man that says a lot especially to people on the outside looking in at our school.

Zero loyalty. 17 them.

[Todd4State]

It sucks our last 2 ADs, alumni, coach and athlete who grew up rooting for State, who both had success here chose to leave us for in conference rival schools. I get it but man that says a lot especially to people on the outside looking in at our school.

Zero loyalty. 17 them.

If the rumors were true at the time there was a chance that Stricklin and Cohen were on the verge of not coming back and not by their own choice.

Stricklin left shortly after we lost to South Alabama in 2016- which was after he allegedly lobbied for Dan to return and Keenum told them that if it didn't work out both would be gone.

Cohen asked for a raise and Keenum wouldn't do it in 2022.

So I don't think it was completely a MSU thing as far as prestige goes.

[Todd4State]

And why would we want either one of them back anyway? Stricklin hired Rick Ray and that's even though he married into the family of Bailey Howell. And he is allegedly the one that told Cohen that for football we could only hire rising assistants for our job which was advice that led to the hire of Moorhead.

Cohen was only good at baseball. And yes, he was really good at it but it's an athletic department and MSU fans want a well-rounded athletic department.

I think our best bet is to try to hire a sitting athletic director somewhere like Coastal Carolina or Louisiana-Lafayette that has a really good P5 athletic department.

[Ranchdawg]

Hire who ever. It really doesn’t matter as much as it used to. There is so much personnel in athletic departments now and there are outside consulting that can advise on hires, fund raising, public relations and anything else. The old days of a AD having to actually handle important matters is now done by consulting firms. Hire Mickey Mouse for all I care.

[KOdawg1]

If you think TCU is a lesser ath department than us now oh boy

Try reading. I never said TCU was a lesser athletic department than us.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is a serious question, why the 17 does it matter? He is still our AD. He is not going to sabotage our program and then leave. He is not John Cohen. He actually has aspirations to be a great AD. We have always known Selmon was only a rental. No clue why everyone is so damn up in arms. Also, he did not even 17 interview. They called him in regards to interest about it and they had some exploratory conversations and both went their separate ways. I had to waste 45 minutes on New Years Day asking OU and TCU people about this because Colonel Kang is raising hell on two different message boards trying to start shit. Utterly 17 ridiculous.

[Tater]

This is a serious question, why the 17 does it matter? He is still our AD. He is not going to sabotage our program and then leave. He is not John Cohen. He actually has aspirations to be a great AD. We have always known Selmon was only a rental. No clue why everyone is so damn up in arms. Also, he did not even 17 interview. They called him in regards to interest about it and they had some exploratory conversations and both went their separate ways. I had to waste 45 minutes on New Years Day asking OU and TCU people about this because Colonel Kang is raising hell on two different message boards trying to start shit. Utterly 17 ridiculous.

People define taking the call and a formal sit down interview separately. Selmon always takes the exploratory initial call and hears it out. And some people define that as being "#OpenToWork" and "interviewing". Some people don't. That's why there's so much disagreement about this.

TCU AD is not the first, I mean some are still parroting that he took a call about UVI's AD job over a year and a half ago. Dude just takes the call and hears them out and then gets back to work. I don't hate him taking the calls because in a way it can be corporate espionage and open you to hearing other ideas about competing school's visions. In the AD role that's much more beneficial than the HC role.

Which segues into the real issue. A lot of people see it like Dan interviewing every year for other jobs and have that PTSD. But the two roles are different. And the level of interest shown is different. If the AD role had Jimmy Sexton like agents to buffer these calls because the AD was working around the clock and doesn't have time to handle it, no one would say he's interviewed because the exploratory calls would stop at the agent.

To wrap it up in a bow, Selmon is prepping to become OU AD. He knows he needs to show excellent work in all phases of sports and get us to where he looks good enough to get that job in a few years. It's a rising tide lifts all boats moment. It's mutually beneficial for us to have him earn the OU AD job because it will mean he's done a great enough job here to earn it. We'll have to get a new AD sure, but in the AD role I just want to hire folks who leave us better than they found us.

It remains to be seen if he will do that. Currently an incomplete grade, but signs are pointing positively. I mean we did get rid of the banner-M and are finally working towards "State" branding being one of two "State" schools in the SEC with the other branded as "LSU".

[Coursesuper]

If the rumors were true at the time there was a chance that Stricklin and Cohen were on the verge of not coming back and not by their own choice.

Stricklin left shortly after we lost to South Alabama in 2016- which was after he allegedly lobbied for Dan to return and Keenum told them that if it didn't work out both would be gone.

Cohen asked for a raise and Keenum wouldn't do it in 2022.

So I don't think it was completely a MSU thing as far as prestige goes.

All of your info here is off base by a lot. Scott was not run off. Dan was looking elsewhere every year, There were 4 well monied boosters who were funding a great part of football then. They had had enough of Dan?s job hunting and had a meeting with. He was told stay or go and he went. Cohen went to the president and told him he had an offer from AU expecting the president to counter his offer. Never got that far, pres told him to take the job and good luck over there.

[StarkVegasSteve]

People define taking the call and a formal sit down interview separately. Selmon always takes the exploratory initial call and hears it out. And some people define that as being "#OpenToWork" and "interviewing". Some people don't. That's why there's so much disagreement about this.

TCU AD is not the first, I mean some are still parroting that he took a call about UVI's AD job over a year and a half ago. Dude just takes the call and hears them out and then gets back to work. I don't hate him taking the calls because in a way it can be corporate espionage and open you to hearing other ideas about competing school's visions. In the AD role that's much more beneficial than the HC role.

Which segues into the real issue. A lot of people see it like Dan interviewing every year for other jobs and have that PTSD. But the two roles are different. And the level of interest shown is different. If the AD role had Jimmy Sexton like agents to buffer these calls because the AD was working around the clock and doesn't have time to handle it, no one would say he's interviewed because the exploratory calls would stop at the agent.

To wrap it up in a bow, Selmon is prepping to become OU AD. He knows he needs to show excellent work in all phases of sports and get us to where he looks good enough to get that job in a few years. It's a rising tide lifts all boats moment. It's mutually beneficial for us to have him earn the OU AD job because it will mean he's done a great enough job here to earn it. We'll have to get a new AD sure, but in the AD role I just want to hire folks who leave us better than they found us.

It remains to be seen if he will do that. Currently an incomplete grade, but signs are pointing positively. I mean we did get rid of the banner-M and are finally working towards "State" branding being one of two "State" schools in the SEC with the other branded as "LSU".

Agree with absolutely everything. Especially the last part. Everyone and their brother knows Selmon wants ONE JOB. The Oklahoma AD job. Castiglione literally told him the way to do that was to go be the AD somewhere else and show good work so that he could come back in 5-7 years and replace Joe. That decision right there is also the difference between Selmon and Rhett Hobart. And I do not want this to come across as a shot at Rhett because I like Rhett a lot and have gotten to know him really well over the years, but Rhett was given that same advice by Greg Byrne, Scott Stricklin, and John Currie. Now unfortunately, he seems to have tied his sails to John Cohen. He should have gone somewhere like an Arkansas St or South Al about 5-7 years ago and he honestly might have gotten the job when Selmon got it.