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bigbub50
12-18-2024, 06:27 PM
With the vandy qb winning his court battle to have his juco years not count against his eligibility, we could see another major change in collegiate sports. Kelly A and booth could get more eligibility. Juco players (who aren?t bounce backs) would have 5 years to play 4. Wild times. Could benefit us.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-18-2024, 06:29 PM
TBH JUCO is more similar to High School than College.

Young dawg
12-18-2024, 06:44 PM
Really wish we could have booth for another year.

DEDawg
12-18-2024, 06:49 PM
Really wish we could have booth for another year.

Dude isnt going pro. We should see if he can do the same juco rule and pay him 75k to come back and make more than he would working and have another year in college

Quaoarsking
12-18-2024, 07:02 PM
Is this why Lebby went so heavy in JUCO recruiting? Suddenly these guys will be 20 year old freshmen?

bulldawg28
12-18-2024, 07:57 PM
That's a game changer for us and a HUGE win we can utilize going forward. It's our counter to the NIL world.

Homedawg
12-18-2024, 08:25 PM
This is temp injunction. Long way to go before it's in play.

bulldawg28
12-18-2024, 08:31 PM
This is temp injunction. Long way to go before it's in play.

Do you know if we have anyone applying?

bulldawg28
12-18-2024, 08:31 PM
TBH JUCO is more similar to High School than College.

No it's not.

TALL DAWG
12-18-2024, 08:32 PM
This could be a really great for us!

Lebby please get this right with the players we won?t to keep for another year! Thank you in advance.

Quaoarsking
12-18-2024, 08:52 PM
This is temp injunction. Long way to go before it's in play.

Any other senior with some JUCO years is going to file a similar suit now though.

Coach34
12-18-2024, 09:45 PM
It appears we are entering an era of college players paying 6-7 years

Shit I was ahead of my time

HoopsDawg
12-18-2024, 11:27 PM
This is temp injunction. Long way to go before it's in play.

By the time it's settled, the kid will have completed his 6 year of college football.

This sh!t is ridiculous.

CaptainObvious
12-19-2024, 12:01 AM
The sports are professional now. We should be able to bring back Big Play Slay and Pernell McPhee for a couple more years.

How about Nate Lowe for Baseball.

Dantae Jones has eligibility left for basketball!!!

Todd4State
12-19-2024, 01:03 AM
This is temp injunction. Long way to go before it's in play.

I can't imagine that the court would rule against Pavia though.

If they did it would create a stir.

Todd4State
12-19-2024, 01:05 AM
This would massively benefit MSU.

We could basically turn JUCO's into our minor league teams and "place" guys there for development. After two years we will have a better idea who is going to develop as far as diamonds in the rough go. Meaning we won't have to use roster spots on them.

Todd4State
12-19-2024, 01:07 AM
It appears we are entering an era of college players paying 6-7 years

Shit I was ahead of my time

Yes. And I think redshirting is kind of dumb. Just give everyone 5-6 years or whatever and let them be eligible to play in all games.

Leeshouldveflanked
12-19-2024, 06:45 AM
No it's not.
As someone who went 2 years JC and 3 years at MSU yes it is.

Pancho
12-19-2024, 07:34 AM
So, you played football for 2 years at a juco and it was just like your high school. That had to have been in the early to mid 1980's. Nowadays juco is nothing like high school as far as football goes.

somebodyshotmypaw
12-19-2024, 07:42 AM
Yes. And I think redshirting is kind of dumb. Just give everyone 5-6 years or whatever and let them be eligible to play in all games.

Mullen suggested that. He wanted the NCAA to give kids 5 years to play 5. Redshirting would be eliminated. It simplifies everything.

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 07:44 AM
As someone who went 2 years JC and 3 years at MSU yes it is.

I played JUCO 1st and it's not high school. There were FULLY grown men playing. We had a 27 year old 6'4 235 WR on my team. It's definitely not high school.

Pinto
12-19-2024, 08:08 AM
My question is, What now keeps the lid on the number of years? As long as a kid is pursuing his degree, shouldn?t he be eligible?

I mean if we are going to blow it up, let?s blow it all the way up.

NWADAWG
12-19-2024, 09:08 AM
My question is, What now keeps the lid on the number of years? As long as a kid is pursuing his degree, shouldn?t he be eligible?

I mean if we are going to blow it up, let?s blow it all the way up.
I agree and was about to post the same thing. As long as you're working towards a degree (regardless if it's the first one or fifth one) and meeting the academic requirements, play on.

Tater
12-19-2024, 09:10 AM
I played JUCO 1st and it's not high school. There were FULLY grown men playing. We had a 27 year old 6'4 235 WR on my team. It's definitely not high school.

Yea idk why people are blanket acting like all Juco is the same, just look at differences from Perk to JC. Perk was set up more like an actual college whereas the Jackson County campus was just 13th and 14th grade. Juco has a lot of variation campus to campus and YMMV.

TrapGame
12-19-2024, 09:32 AM
So, our we going to have jucos being two year farm teams? We basically funnel guys to Holmes CC for two years to work on their technique and put on some muscle?

parabrave
12-19-2024, 10:00 AM
So, our we going to have jucos being two year farm teams? We basically funnel guys to Holmes CC for two years to work on their technique and put on some muscle?

Unless they are Jeffrey Simmons, Yep/ Of course colleges will now be using JCs as their development league.

Pancho
12-19-2024, 10:28 AM
who will compensate them while they are developed?

msu15
12-19-2024, 11:03 AM
I agree and was about to post the same thing. As long as you're working towards a degree (regardless if it's the first one or fifth one) and meeting the academic requirements, play on.

This is the way

Lord McBuckethead
12-19-2024, 01:58 PM
Just give them 6 years to play 5. That way an injury year isn't that bad to deal with.
Also, armed service members should be eligible the day they start school, not the day they graduate high school.

parabrave
12-19-2024, 02:59 PM
who will compensate them while they are developed?

The current set up will take care of that, IOW the highest bidder.

The Federalist Engineer
12-19-2024, 08:54 PM
That's a game changer for us and a HUGE win we can utilize going forward. It's our counter to the NIL world.

I think it could change everything for many kids that are late bloomers or had mis Applied talents as youth.

Think about all the 6-9 power forwards on JUCO basketball teams that can't shoot. Those kids could be awesome OTs or TEs. Like Jimmy Graham. Basketball rejects some freak athletes.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2024, 09:03 PM
My question is, What now keeps the lid on the number of years? As long as a kid is pursuing his degree, shouldn?t he be eligible?

I mean if we are going to blow it up, let?s blow it all the way up.

no sir. you are really screwing over the high school kids. 5 years to play 4 after high school. no exceptions.

bulldawg28
12-19-2024, 09:18 PM
I think it could change everything for many kids that are late bloomers or had mis Applied talents as youth.

Think about all the 6-9 power forwards on JUCO basketball teams that can't shoot. Those kids could be awesome OTs or TEs. Like Jimmy Graham. Basketball rejects some freak athletes.

Possibly, however high level football typically is unkind to late bloomers and on the job/field learning.

Quaoarsking
12-19-2024, 10:12 PM
no sir. you are really screwing over the high school kids. 5 years to play 4 after high school. no exceptions.

It needs to be 5 to play 5. No more games with redshirts. Five years, and if you get hurt or you aren't good enough to get on the field, then sorry.

I could see an argument for 6/6, but either way they need to get rid of redshirting.

HoopsDawg
12-19-2024, 11:58 PM
It needs to be 5 to play 5. No more games with redshirts. Five years, and if you get hurt or you aren't good enough to get on the field, then sorry.

I could see an argument for 6/6, but either way they need to get rid of redshirting.

I'm good with the 5 for 5 with no redshirting. I don't see a good argument for 6/6 at all. At all.

Todd4State
12-21-2024, 01:58 AM
I'm good with the 5 for 5 with no redshirting. I don't see a good argument for 6/6 at all. At all.

With more and more students getting graduate degrees I can see the argument for it.

HoopsDawg
12-21-2024, 02:07 AM
With more and more students getting graduate degrees I can see the argument for it.

Sure, why not. 2 years of Juco + 6 years of college + 2 redshirts and 2 medical redshirts. Can't wait to watch a 30 year old play college football for 8 different teams. Got to draw the line somewhere. Grad school is nothing a new invention. Everyone has gone crazy. SMH

Quaoarsking
12-21-2024, 11:03 AM
Sure, why not. 2 years of Juco + 6 years of college + 2 redshirts and 2 medical redshirts. Can't wait to watch a 30 year old play college football for 8 different teams. Got to draw the line somewhere. Grad school is nothing a new invention. Everyone has gone crazy. SMH

No matter they pick as the final count, they've got to get rid of redshirting. Why are people quitting their teams midseason? Redshirting. Why are teams deciding not to play players who could help them win? Redshirting. And since you don't have to sit out a year for transfers anymore, there's no need to preserve an extra year.

Let people contribute to their team in any way they can for their entire career.

DEDawg
12-21-2024, 11:36 AM
This would massively benefit MSU.

We could basically turn JUCO's into our minor league teams and "place" guys there for development. After two years we will have a better idea who is going to develop as far as diamonds in the rough go. Meaning we won't have to use roster spots on them.

How would this benefit us? The players who develop into SEC starting caliber would be recruited by other schools as well

Quaoarsking
12-21-2024, 01:07 PM
How would this benefit us? The players who develop into SEC starting caliber would be recruited by other schools as well

I don't think know that it benefits us in the long run (or the other way around - I think it just becomes a new rule that anyone can exploit), but it benefits us a lot in 2025 if Akharaiyi and Booth can return.

Todd4State
12-21-2024, 07:19 PM
How would this benefit us? The players who develop into SEC starting caliber would be recruited by other schools as well

Because we had relationships with JUCOs like Co-Lin where we would essentially sign and place guys and Co-Lin would keep others away from our guys and steer them to MSU.

We already have relationships with most JUCO's in Mississippi. Teams like Texas don't and would have to build those relationships.

Todd4State
12-21-2024, 07:21 PM
Sure, why not. 2 years of Juco + 6 years of college + 2 redshirts and 2 medical redshirts. Can't wait to watch a 30 year old play college football for 8 different teams. Got to draw the line somewhere. Grad school is nothing a new invention. Everyone has gone crazy. SMH

The best players are going to go to the NFL as soon as possible. So the 30 year olds are going to be the guys that would be out of the game anyway.