Dan Wetzel Article- Interlocking MSU

[Todd4State]

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1861851176393695246

I like the idea of a fundraiser to use the interlocking MSU with the money going to NIL.

It's not a good look for our administration because there have been national people questioning why our athletic department won't use the logo more at least. They think it's nuts that the administration doesn't want to use it.

Things like this make me think that the interlocking will eventually return as the primary logo for football one day.

[Coursesuper]

Petty and stupid, this is exactly why we can?t have nice things.

[LC Dawg]

We're 2-9.

[KOdawg1]

Petty and stupid, this is exactly why we can?t have nice things.

What?

[KOdawg1]

We're 2-9.

With a helmet logo no one wants

[DawgFromOxford]

With a helmet logo no one wants

I like the script State

[Brobi-wan]

I like the script State

Yeah I don’t think it’s bad myself.

[KOdawg1]

I like the script State

It's fine as the athletic logo. But the interlocking needs to be on the helmet. Should have never been taken off

[DawgFromOxford]

It's fine as the athletic logo. But the interlocking needs to be on the helmet. Should have never been taken off

Eh personal opinion. The interlocking logo is fine but it?s not such an amazing logo that it?s worth starting a fight with the athletic department over.

[KOdawg1]

Eh personal opinion. The interlocking logo is fine but it?s not such an amazing logo that it?s worth starting a fight with the athletic department over.

Yeah most people would disagree

[DawgFromOxford]

Yeah most people would disagree
Look if this is the mole hill you want to die with all the other problems going on in football then so be it

[KOdawg1]

Look if this is the mole hill you want to die with all the other problems going on in football then so be it

Lucky for you, I can be on several hills at once. Never understood that argument. Me advocating for a helmet sticker isn't stopping us from fixing other problems. Multi-tasking is a thing.

[Tripp McNeely]

I'm assuming that the goal here is to create a national brand?? Y'all know the only real way to do that is be good at sports, right? No one is gonna care what the hell our logo is if we suck...if we're good at sports, non-State fans will buy our merchandise, no matter what the logo is...spending all of this time being concerned about what the logo is, is the dictionary definition of putting the cart before the horse.

[Coursesuper]

I'm assuming that the goal here is to create a national brand?? Y'all know the only real way to do that is be good at sports, right? No one is gonna care what the hell our logo is if we suck...if we're good at sports, non-State fans will buy our merchandise, no matter what the logo is...spending all of this time being concerned about what the logo is, is the dictionary definition of putting the cart before the horse.

Bingo, but our stupid asses will bitch about anything else.

[HoopsDawg]

Look if this is the mole hill you want to die with all the other problems going on in football then so be it

It's an easy fix that 90% of the fanbase wants.

[Brobi-wan]

Look if this is the mole hill you want to die with all the other problems going on in football then so be it

No young fans really have any connection to the interlocking MSU. It’s a good logo, but I’m 26 and associate Dan and the banner M way more than Jackie and the interlocking. Not saying interlocking isn’t the best. Just a general point.

[DawgFromOxford]

Bingo, but our stupid asses will bitch about anything else.

Yeah, no one would want this logo if it was worn during the croom years. It?s all nostalgia

I?d be willing to bet anyone born 2000 or later couldn?t care less about making it the permanent helmet sticker

[DawgFromOxford]

No young fans really have any connection to the interlocking MSU. It’s a good logo, but I’m 26 and associate Dan and the banner M way more than Jackie and the interlocking. Not saying interlocking isn’t the best. Just a general point.

Bingo. If we have any level of success with the State script, 30 years from now you?ll have people yelling that the Athletic Department is running the program into the ground because they won?t put the script back on the helmet

[KOdawg1]

Yeah, no one would want this logo if it was worn during the croom years. It?s all nostalgia

I?d be willing to bet anyone born 2000 or later couldn?t care less about making it the permanent helmet sticker

You'd lose that bet.

[Jarius]

Eh personal opinion. The interlocking logo is fine but it?s not such an amazing logo that it?s worth starting a fight with the athletic department over.

Yes it is and it’s ridiculous that this is even a discussion. We have had 1 decent looking uniform in our history and we changed it because Larry Templeton is a moron and probably got some sort of kick back for his logo he changed to if I had to guess. Most people do not care about the logo, but of the ones who do it has been proven about 75 times through polls that interlocking is what is wanted. This is a very simple fix that the AD refuses to fix because he wants to put his own stamp on our program instead of just giving the fans (who buy the players) what they want.

[Jarius]

Yeah, no one would want this logo if it was worn during the croom years. It?s all nostalgia

I?d be willing to bet anyone born 2000 or later couldn?t care less about making it the permanent helmet sticker

The logo was worn during the bad Jackie years as well. It’s not nostalgia. It’s people who don’t wear braided belts and phone cases on their hips knowing what actually looks good on a uniform. When you have a good look you stick with it. Just like LSU, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Michigan, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, etc etc etc etc do…..We had an excellent look from head to toe and we were lied to for 20 years about not being able to go back it it because Nike owned the logo. This is an easy fix for an athletic department that has a ton of hard fixes ahead of them and it can build up a small amount of good will by changing a freaking helmet sticker.

[Coach34]

Yeah we are doing this the wrong way. Interlocking should be the main logo with the State script worn a couple of times per year

[KOdawg1]

Yeah we are doing this the wrong way. Interlocking should be the main logo with the State script worn a couple of times per year
Hell, keep the script as the midfield logo and plaster it all over the place. It's a fine logo. But it's not Mississippi State football. I think 99.9% pushing for interlocking just want it on the helmets. Touch up the 98 uniform a little and roll with it forever.

And for the ones trying to argue we can't have multiple logos, tell that to Florida, LSU, Alabama, and Mizzou. The "identity" argument is dumb. People who don't know who we are wouldn't know anyway.

[Jarius]

Hell, keep the script as the midfield logo and plaster it all over the place. It's a fine logo. But it's not Mississippi State football. I think 99.9% pushing for interlocking just want it on the helmets. Touch up the 98 uniform a little and roll with it forever.

And for the ones trying to argue we can't have multiple logos, tell that to Florida, LSU, Alabama, and Mizzou. The "identity" argument is dumb. People who don't know who we are wouldn't know anyway.

We are marketing to our fans. Us being able to identify our team and liking the way we look is literally the only thing that matters. We are in the SEC and will be plastered all over ESPN every week and people outside of Mississippi and SEC country still don’t know the difference between us and Ole Miss. Cater to your fans on uniforms. I don’t care what they do with the school’s main logo or anything else. Just give us our football helmet logo back please.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah, no one would want this logo if it was worn during the croom years. It?s all nostalgia

I?d be willing to bet anyone born 2000 or later couldn?t care less about making it the permanent helmet sticker

You are just wrong.

[KOdawg1]

You are just wrong.
I know he's wrong because I'm in my mid 20s and have no nostalgic attachment to the logo at all, but I prefer it because it just looks better and tougher.

The main guy interviewed in that article is in his mid late 20s. So it's not just "old people" who want it back.

[coaxguy99]

The logo was worn during the bad Jackie years as well. It?s not nostalgia. It?s people who don?t wear braided belts and phone cases on their hips knowing what actually looks good on a uniform. When you have a good look you stick with it. Just like LSU, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, Michigan, Penn State, Florida State, Miami, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, etc etc etc etc do?..We had an excellent look from head to toe and we were lied to for 20 years about not being able to go back it it because Nike owned the logo. This is an easy fix for an athletic department that has a ton of hard fixes ahead of them and it can build up a small amount of good will by changing a freaking helmet sticker.

That's what I always heard. Was it not true about Nike owning the logo?

[Cooterpoot]

The script is the school athletic brand, interlocking football. It's simple really just like MS is the baseball logo. Anything else is a BS excuse for not doing it. But hell, we aren't even going all in all script if you look around. It's the lingering stench of the banner M that's lingering over everything that has to 17ing go!

[Coursesuper]

Easy fix, no logos, maroon or white headgear with 3 stripes like Princeton or the ones the bears wore last week. Problem solved, it?s fairly unique and something the all of y?all can equally bitch about other than the state of the program.

[KOdawg1]

Easy fix, no logos, maroon or white headgear with 3 stripes like Princeton or the ones the bears wore last week. Problem solved, it?s fairly unique and something the all of y?all can equally bitch about other than the state of the program.
Seems like there's been plenty of bitching about the state of the program and deservingly so. I mean just scroll down. Again, if I complain about the logo, it doesn't mean I'm suddenly okay with all of our other problems. That's just a weak argument.

[KOdawg1]

The script is the school athletic brand, interlocking football. It's simple really just like MS is the baseball logo. Anything else is a BS excuse for not doing it. But hell, we aren't even going all in all script if you look around. It's the lingering stench of the banner M that's lingering over everything that has to 17ing go!

Uh oh. You mentioned the banner. Maroonthirteen will be by shortly with a 3 paragraph response

[Coursesuper]

Seems like there's been plenty of bitching about the state of the program and deservingly so. I mean just scroll down. Again, if I complain about the logo, it doesn't mean I'm suddenly okay with all of our other problems. That's just a weak argument.

Sucker, I just knew you would bite on that. Thanks. So many single issues types that miss the forest for the trees.

[KOdawg1]

Sucker, I just knew you would bite on that. Thanks. So many single issues types that miss the forest for the trees.
Sorry you can't multi-task and think at a higher level. Most people can but I guess not everyone can. Make sure to remember to breathe if you type a response. Don't want you getting too focused on one thing and missing the forest for the trees.

And "sucker"? Are you 4?

[Coach34]

I know he's wrong because I'm in my mid 20s and have no nostalgic attachment to the logo at all, but I prefer it because it just looks better and tougher.

The main guy interviewed in that article is in his mid late 20s. So it's not just "old people" who want it back.

The positive thing I do like about it is our brand- we are "State" as far as the South and SEC is concerned

[KOdawg1]

The positive thing I do like about it is our brand- we are "State" as far as the South and SEC is concerned

You could still be that with the interlocking. Take the 98 jerseys, take the "Miss." off, and just leave state. Perfect
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[Coach34]

You could still be that with the interlocking. Take the 98 jerseys, take the "Miss." off, and just leave state. Perfect
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Oh you dont have to convince me. I'm with you 100%

[Jarius]

The positive thing I do like about it is our brand- we are "State" as far as the South and SEC is concerned

Yes. Outside of fundraising, this is the best thing Selmon has done. I love him leaning into “State” as our brand. As you and others have said, we can still do that with the correct helmet logo.

[Todd4State]

Sucker, I just knew you would bite on that. Thanks. So many single issues types that miss the forest for the trees.

When your program is 2-10 and is constantly giving fans the middle finger and burns down the forest planting a tree is a good idea.

[Coursesuper]

When your program is 2-10 and is constantly giving fans the middle finger and burns down the forest planting a tree is a good idea.

The point is bitching about logos is 17ing ridiculous. Therefore the forest for the trees analogy. We never can get on the same page and will literally go out of our own way to find the absolute dumbest bullshit to further divide ourselves.

[Cooterpoot]

The point is bitching about logos is 17ing ridiculous. Therefore the forest for the trees analogy. We never can get on the same page and will literally go out of our own way to find the absolute dumbest bullshit to further divide ourselves.

That division was created by the school when they took the logo away under the lie that Nike owned the rights to it. When leaders lie, it divides. Poor leadership causes more problems than it solves.

[Brobi-wan]

Speaking of bad leadership, I heard Cohen and Dan did not get along. Is there any truth to that?

[mparkerfd20]

I'm tired of losing and being the butt of every joke. I just wanna win. I couldn't give a rats ass what logo we have if we just win.

[Coursesuper]

That division was created by the school when they took the logo away under the lie that Nike owned the rights to it. When leaders lie, it divides. Poor leadership causes more problems than it solves.

Oh come on. Really, does it matter what the damn logo is on the side. The only thing we?ve been guilty of is being manipulated by chronically entitled alumni with LDS every time that they are near a confederate. Those are the ones that have been driving the athletic department and by in turn running things off the tracks. They don?t give 2 17s about you or anyone else just what they want. When are y?all gonna figure out who the real leadership is with the athletic department? We are Dollar General Auburn.

[MoreCowbell]

You could still be that with the interlocking. Take the 98 jerseys, take the "Miss." off, and just leave state. Perfect
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I have never cared enough about uniforms to get involved in these arguments but damn that looks awesome. The old interlocking on new helmets would be sick.

[KOdawg1]

I have never cared enough about uniforms to get involved in these arguments but damn that looks awesome. The old interlocking on new helmets would be sick.

Yep. It's a simple and easy fix.

[Turfdawg67]

Bingo, but our stupid asses will bitch about anything else.

Pot... meet kettle.

[Turfdawg67]

I like the script State

People in GA thought it was a joke... or at worst a throwback, one-off uniform when they saw it. When I said it was our new logo they laughed. And they should, it's horrendous.

[MBDawg601]

Script state only looks good on the front of our baseball Jersey. Script state comes off like we are trying to copy Ole Miss with their helmet.

Interlocking is absolutely our best helmet logo. Not sure what's taking so long to make the change, but it needs to happen. I've seen a thousand highschool teams with better helmets. It doesn't put points on the board, but kids like to look good and have great uniforms. Us and Mizzou are the only teams in the conference that have changed our helmet logos since the 90s era. No fkn clue why.

[Turfdawg67]

Script state only looks good on the front of our baseball Jersey.

Yes.

[1eyedog]

I?ve seen the entire line from the ?rocket? to the script. I truly loved the MS helmets even with they added the U during the Felker/Marler/Threadgil era. Simple jerseys and togs were beautiful with dark helmets with light MS/U. If you want history why not use the unis when the DOGS beat #1 bama in in 80? I always loved the simplicity of Bama?s design. Whatever the decision please get back to knock their **** in the dirt defense and offense that does what it takes to score. And please do what it takes to expand the ?DOGS? footprint in media and out of state students........?Starkvegas? just isn?t going to get it done, it just makes MSU sound like a country bumpkin junior college. JMHO