View Full Version : Hartfield vS Prep tonight for all the marbles
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 02:21 PM
Going to be a fantastic game to watch. Playing at Mississippi College.
Rivals has Prep as the number 2 team in the state only behind Brandon. And Hartfield is 6th.
1st game came down to the wire at Hartfield. Lots of talent on both sides of the ball for both teams.
Bothrops
11-23-2024, 03:54 PM
Will this be the last football game played in that stadium?
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 05:54 PM
I believe there is an all star game there in December.
RockyDog
11-23-2024, 06:10 PM
Bless those boys. Whoever runs that gauntlet of 2 playoff wins to hoist that championship trophy is most deserving!
Coursesuper
11-23-2024, 06:26 PM
Bless those boys. Whoever runs that gauntlet of 2 playoff wins to hoist that championship trophy is most deserving!
Ha!
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 06:40 PM
Pretty sure those two teams could hang with anyone
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 07:12 PM
Pretty sure those two teams could hang with anyone
I feel pretty confident in saying that Noxubee Co, East Webster, and Choctaw Central would run both of those teams off the field. Tupelo would also dust them. They can probably hang with some public school teams but there would be plenty of games they would be out athleted.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 07:49 PM
I feel pretty confident in saying that Noxubee Co, East Webster, and Choctaw Central would run both of those teams off the field. Tupelo would also dust them. They can probably hang with some public school teams but there would be plenty of games they would be out athleted.
Is this post real?
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 07:53 PM
Is this post real?
Yea. What is wrong with it? Do you think Prep or Hartfield could beat those teams? Having watched all of them this year, I do not believe they could.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 07:57 PM
Yea. What is wrong with it? Do you think Prep or Hartfield could beat those teams? Having watched all of them this year, I do not believe they could.
I do not believe that East Webster would run Jackson Prep off the field. Prep would win that game easily.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:05 PM
They would skull drag east Webster and noxunbee county. You are letting your ignorance show..
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:06 PM
They would skull drag east Webster and noxunbee county. You are letting your ignorance show..
Who do they have that could tackle Taylor? I am being serious. Private school has taken some very serious steps to be better overall football teams, but they still have limitations.
Also it is NOXUBEE. If you are going to call someone ignorant, at least spell everything correctly.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:09 PM
Ask west Jones about playing Prep. Hartfield has 3 SEC defensive players. Prep has 2 OT that are going to Power 4 schools. Plus a few going to other D1. You are a crazy if you think east Webster would even be able to compete.
Don’t comment or speak on things that you can only assume on.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:14 PM
Ask west Jones about playing Prep. Hartfield has 3 SEC defensive players. Prep has 2 OT that are going to Power 4 schools. Plus a few going to other D1. You are a crazy if you think east Webster would even be able to compete.
Don’t comment or speak on things that you can only assume on.
I will comment or speak on whatever I damn well please. Also, I have seen all these teams play multiple times this year. That is my opinion. You have yours. Last time I checked, this is a message board where opinions are welcomed.
RezDog7
11-23-2024, 08:20 PM
I feel pretty confident in saying that Noxubee Co, East Webster, and Choctaw Central would run both of those teams off the field. Tupelo would also dust them. They can probably hang with some public school teams but there would be plenty of games they would be out athleted.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
RezDog7
11-23-2024, 08:21 PM
I will comment or speak on whatever I damn well please. Also, I have seen all these teams play multiple times this year. That is my opinion. You have yours. Last time I checked, this is a message board where opinions are welcomed.
I've been wondering for a while but now I'm convinced that you're Steve Robertson. Good lord what a terrible take. Hartfield would beat the shit out of those teams.
HaggardDawg
11-23-2024, 08:23 PM
There are more athletes on the field in this game than any game in the state public and private this entire year.
Coursesuper
11-23-2024, 08:26 PM
Ask west Jones about playing Prep. Hartfield has 3 SEC defensive players. Prep has 2 OT that are going to Power 4 schools. Plus a few going to other D1. You are a crazy if you think east Webster would even be able to compete.
Don’t comment or speak on things that you can only assume on.
Prep would struggle to stay on the field with any team in 6A or 7A. Good 5A would have their way with them. Too many athletes.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:29 PM
Who do they have that could tackle Taylor? I am being serious. Private school has taken some very serious steps to be better overall football teams, but they still have limitations.
Also it is NOXUBEE. If you are going to call someone ignorant, at least spell everything correctly.
Boy what a burn, when you resort to spelling nazi you really do not have a leg to stand on do you.
Yes I believe Prep,Hartfield and MRA would beat all the teams you just listed almost every time. I am a public school guy, but you have to give credit where it is due and you can no longer stand on the argument that private schools don’t have the athletes that public schools do. That is a very outdated way of thinking.
Just a bad take plain and simple.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 08:32 PM
Prep would struggle to stay on the field with any team in 6A or 7A. Good 5A would have their way with them. Too many athletes.
MRA beat 7A Oak Grove 51-13. MRA lost to Prep 42-17.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:33 PM
Prep would struggle to stay on the field with any team in 6A or 7A. Good 5A would have their way with them. Too many athletes.
Rivals, 247 and MaxPreps disagree with you. They have Prep ranked 2nd only behind Brandon. Last time I checked they look at talent
Coursesuper
11-23-2024, 08:36 PM
MRA beat 7A Oak Grove 51-13. MRA lost to Prep 42-17.
Off year for Oak Grove and others to cherry pick from. Come on up and play Tupelo, Starkville, Louisville etc. I?ve heard this forever. Never changes.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:36 PM
Boy what a burn, when you resort to spelling nazi you really do not have a leg to stand on do ya.
Yes I believe Prep,Hartfield and MRA would beat all the teams you just listed almost every time. I am public school guy, but you have to give credit where it is due and you can no longer stand on the argument that private schools don’t have the athletes that public schools do. That is a very outdated way of thinking.
Just a bad take plain and simple.
Weird. Took you for a private school guy like myself. Again like I said, just my opinion. I have watched Prep and was just not impressed. More impressed with Hartfield between the two. Heath built them a good team. I just think depth will take over most of the time with private vs public matchups. Prep and Hartfield have bigger rosters than most private schools but eventually those lineman get tired of trying to tackle and missing an athlete like Kamario Taylor
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:37 PM
Regardless of whatever misconceptions of some, this has been a great game. Tons of talent on both sides of the ball. Number 2 for Hartfield might even be the best athlete on the field tonight. He is not even one of the headliners.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:38 PM
Rivals, 247 and MaxPreps disagree with you. They have Prep ranked 2nd only behind Brandon. Last time I checked they look at talent
And Magnolia Heights never ranked above 8th in the state in baseball last year and I know for a fact Magnolia would have beat the hell out of any team in the state last year. So apparently they only look at talent in certain situations.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:39 PM
Off year for Oak Grove and others to cherry pick from. Come on up and play Tupelo, Starkville, Louisville etc. I?ve heard this forever. Never changes.
That’s not cherry picking that was the outcome of a game this year. Only ones to choose from.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:39 PM
Regardless of whatever misconceptions of some, this has been a great game. Tons of talent on both sides of the ball. Number 2 for Hartfield might even be the best athlete on the field tonight. He is not even one of the headliners.
What is the score? Have not seen anything today. Watched Parklane drop a 70 burger on Leake yesterday. Looked like our defense trying to stop teams.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:40 PM
I've been wondering for a while but now I'm convinced that you're Steve Robertson. Good lord what a terrible take. Hartfield would beat the shit out of those teams.
I am indeed not Steve Robertson. I shower regularly, do not wear a damn top hat, and do not think John Cohen was a great AD.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:40 PM
Weird. Took you for a private school guy like myself. Again like I said, just my opinion. I have watched Prep and was just not impressed. More impressed with Hartfield between the two. Heath built them a good team. I just think depth will take over most of the time with private vs public matchups. Prep and Hartfield have bigger rosters than most private schools but eventually those lineman get tired of trying to tackle and missing an athlete like Kamario Taylor
Well I guess that would be the 2nd time your assumptions are incorrect tonight. McComb High graduate here. Can’t get more “public” than that considering the State took over the school. Haha.
HaggardDawg
11-23-2024, 08:43 PM
Regardless of whatever misconceptions of some, this has been a great game. Tons of talent on both sides of the ball. Number 2 for Hartfield might even be the best athlete on the field tonight. He is not even one of the headliners.
Braylon Womack #2 is a top 20 prospect in the country for 2026 and rated a 98 on 247 with offers from every blue blood I the country, he?s a stud. Everything else I agree with you.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:43 PM
Well I guess that would be the 2nd time your assumptions are incorrect tonight. McComb High graduate here. Can’t get more “public” than that considering the State took over the school. Haha.
Yea that makes you pretty public to say the least haha
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 08:43 PM
Off year for Oak Grove and others to cherry pick from. Come on up and play Tupelo, Starkville, Louisville etc. I?ve heard this forever. Never changes.
But you said ANY 6A or 7A teams. Oak Grove qualifies as any 6A or 7A team.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 08:43 PM
What is the score? Have not seen anything today. Watched Parklane drop a 70 burger on Leake yesterday. Looked like our defense trying to stop teams.
7 to 7 at halftime. Both lines are doing a great job against the rush but the depth might be more of a problem for Hatfield because majority of their guys are playing Ironman football. Tremendous athletes though. I believe the JA network is live-streaming it. If Prep’s QB was a few inches taller you would know his name more recruiting wise. He has a great and accurate arm. Both teams Kickers will be Power 4 guys as well.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:45 PM
7 to 7 at halftime. Both lines are doing a great job against the rush but the depth might be more of a problem for Hatfield because majority of their guys are playing Ironman football. Tremendous athletes though. I believe the JA network is live-streaming it. If Prep’s QB was a few inches taller you would know his name more recruiting wise. He has a great and accurate arm. Both teams Kickers will be Power 4 guys as well.
Their QB is accurate with the ball. I think someone at the G5 level will take a flier on him. He is smart with the ball on top of being accurate c
msugolf
11-23-2024, 08:50 PM
I feel pretty confident in saying that Noxubee Co, East Webster, and Choctaw Central would run both of those teams off the field. Tupelo would also dust them. They can probably hang with some public school teams but there would be plenty of games they would be out athleted.
Youre on crack if you think that. And if you seriously do then anything you say going forward about sports just got taken down several notches on being credible in my book.
Ive got family and friends that coach at D1 schools and they completely disagree with your take based on recruiting players in this state
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 08:57 PM
Youre on crack if you think that. And if you seriously do then anything you say going forward about sports just got taken down several notches on being credible in my book.
Ive got family and friends that coach at D1 schools and they completely disagree with your take based on recruiting players in this state
I have plenty of friends that recruit in this state as well and they all say the same thing. The top end talent in the private schools have gotten 100x better in the last 15 years, but overall they still have more guys starting at their schools that would not make the team at the bigger public schools in the state. Again, what Hubert Davis has built at MRA is incredible, but I do not think they could hang with a Tupelo, Starkville, etc. What Doug Goodwin has done st Prep to revitalize them is really impressive, but I do not think they could hang with Brandon.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 09:02 PM
I have plenty of friends that recruit in this state as well and they all say the same thing. The top end talent in the private schools have gotten 100x better in the last 15 years, but overall they still have more guys starting at their schools that would not make the team at the bigger public schools in the state. Again, what Hubert Davis has built at MRA is incredible, but I do not think they could hang with a Tupelo, Starkville, etc. What Doug Goodwin has done st Prep to revitalize them is really impressive, but I do not think they could hang with Brandon.
You have changed from them being run off the field by Choctaw Central to not hanging with Tupelo and Brandon. That is two different discussions.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 09:07 PM
You have changed from them being run off the field by Choctaw Central to not hanging with Tupelo and Brandon. That is two different discussions.
Sorry you are right. I should have stuck with my original teams. I was trying to call out the Jackson private schools for how they have brought up talent.I got caught up in different conversations. I do still think Choctaw Central would run away from those teams and to me it would come down to depth and they have no one who can guard Cunningham. Like I said, I think the top end talent at those schools is the same and against a team like Choctaw I would probably give the nod to a Hartfield, but I think depth would win out. Also, man I would love to see Davis’ offense turned loose with Kamario Taylor at QB. They would be hell on wheels.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 09:11 PM
Sorry you are right. I should have stuck with my original teams. I was trying to call out the Jackson private schools for how they have brought up talent.I got caught up in different conversations. I do still think Choctaw Central would run away from those teams and to me it would come down to depth and they have no one who can guard Cunningham. Like I said, I think the top end talent at those schools is the same and against a team like Choctaw I would probably give the nod to Hartfield, but I think depth would win out. Also, man I would love to see Davis’ offense turned loose with Kamario Taylor at QB. They would be hell on wheels.
Choctaw Central went 6-4 this year
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 09:15 PM
Choctaw Central went 6-4 this year
Sorry. I meant County and not Central. My bad on that one.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 09:25 PM
Choctaw Central would blow Prep off the field you say. Choctaw Central beat Northeast Lauderdale 28-7. Tri County Academy in Flora, MS beat Northeast Lauderdale 42-7. And I promise that Tri County Academy doesn’t want to play Prep or Hartfield.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 09:27 PM
Choctaw Central would blow Prep off the field you say. Choctaw Central beat Northeast Lauderdale 28-7. Tri County Academy in Flora, MS beat Northeast Lauderdale 42-7. And I promise that Tri County Academy doesn?t want to play Prep or Hartfield.
That is why I said sorry, I meant Choctaw Co.
Coursesuper
11-23-2024, 09:32 PM
Easy fix, privates just join MSHAA and play it out.
CaptainObvious
11-23-2024, 09:46 PM
Easy fix, privates just join MSHAA and play it out.
Why would they want to do that? The private schools have prayer in schools, prayer at athletic events, Bible Classes, focus 100% on College Prep and I don't mean College Wokism Prep! They get excellent student athletes with emphasis on Student.
Coursesuper
11-23-2024, 09:52 PM
Why would they want to do that? The private schools have prayer in schools, prayer at athletic events, Bible Classes, focus 100% on College Prep and I don't mean College Wokism Prep! They get excellent student athletes with emphasis on Student.
Oh Horseshit. I mean good ******* leave it some 17er to bring up this shit AAARRGGHH. Woke, you?re in Mississippi for shits sake. I?m out tonight, and GFY.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 10:23 PM
Why would they want to do that? The private schools have prayer in schools, prayer at athletic events, Bible Classes, focus 100% on College Prep and I don't mean College Wokism Prep! They get excellent student athletes with emphasis on Student.
St. Stanislaus is a catholic school and plays in the MHSAA. PCS is moving to MHSAA next year. I would imagine St. Joe Madison is moving back to the MHSAA as well. I do not think that stuff is going away.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 10:37 PM
Great game. 19-14 but came down to last 2 minutes. Very good game. Congrats to Hartfield.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 10:43 PM
Great game. 19-14 but came down to last 2 minutes. Very good game. Congrats to Hartfield.
Sounds like Prep did what they needed to do and bled the clock. That is how you keep it close with Hartfield.
SilentSteel16
11-23-2024, 11:07 PM
That would be a negative as well. It was a defensive game and Prep actually runs up tempo. Prep beat them regular season in a shootout but this was a defensive game and field position. Very good game.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 11:37 PM
That would be a negative as well. It was a defensive game and Prep actually runs up tempo. Prep beat them regular season in a shootout but this was a defensive game and field position. Very good game.
I will preface this by saying that I watched them when they played Magnolia Heights so that could have skewed my thoughts on them, but it seemed like Hartfield would just out athlete everyone and tempo people. I felt the only way to stay with them was bleed the clock.
confucius say
11-24-2024, 12:12 AM
I will preface this by saying that I watched them when they played Magnolia Heights so that could have skewed my thoughts on them, but it seemed like Hartfield would just out athlete everyone and tempo people. I felt the only way to stay with them was bleed the clock.
Nah. They went 1-1 vs prep this year and 1-1 vs mra. All were close games.
Those three are all about the same and are all top 20 teams in the state.
confucius say
11-24-2024, 12:13 AM
Did we not offer Kenzi West at Hartfield.
Saw he's committed to Houston.
StarkVegasSteve
11-24-2024, 12:15 AM
Nah. They went 1-1 vs prep this year and 1-1 vs mra. All were close games.
Those three are all about the same and are all top 20 teams in the state.
MRA is a weird one. The games I watched them they looked like they would run away with the title, then again I am biased because I like the offense they run. But Pulaski beat the hell out of them and so did Prep. Lost a tough one to Hartfield.
StarkVegasSteve
11-24-2024, 12:17 AM
Did we not offer Kenzi West at Hartfield.
Saw he's committed to Houston.
We did not. He was always a wait and see and if we came back at the end and had a spot we’d offer. I doubt we do it though. We are probably done at WR in the HS ranks. Waiting on the kid from Crowley in TX. I think we will get him. Have seen him play and he is electric.
RezDog7
11-24-2024, 08:20 AM
We did not. He was always a wait and see and if we came back at the end and had a spot we?d offer. I doubt we do it though. We are probably done at WR in the HS ranks. Waiting on the kid from Crowley in TX. I think we will get him. Have seen him play and he is electric.
Of course we wouldn't offer any of the kids at Hartfield. Can't take a way spots from the 30 juco's. No doubt we will win the state juco championship next year. MSU football program is an absolute damn joke.
confucius say
11-24-2024, 09:16 PM
We did not. He was always a wait and see and if we came back at the end and had a spot we’d offer. I doubt we do it though. We are probably done at WR in the HS ranks. Waiting on the kid from Crowley in TX. I think we will get him. Have seen him play and he is electric.
I think he's a corner at the next level.
I think he is better than most of our corners now.
But that's good news on the kid from Texas.
Coach34
11-24-2024, 10:41 PM
Well I guess that would be the 2nd time your assumptions are incorrect tonight. McComb High graduate here. Can?t get more ?public? than that considering the State took over the school. Haha.
I hope that is not you MS making these posts. I have some close McComb connections with a couple being some of my best friends. And as a side note- I could still hit a Parklane pitcher pitch for A HR today. 7 of 29 lifetime HS HR's thanks to the shitty pitching from McComb
a town of no-talent ragarms
Todd4State
11-25-2024, 01:03 AM
I know that Prep blew out West Jones and MRA blew out Oak Grove this year and those are legit public school teams.
I guess it's like anything else. Some teams are better than others. The Jackson Country Club schools (Prep, JA, MRA, and Hartfield) can probably at least compete with any team in the state and maybe beat them. Not being able to beat the best team in 7A has always been a weird criticism and I went to a public school.
The fact of the matter is these schools are recruiting and they're probably cleaning out JPS and probably the metro some- I won't pretend I know where all of these schools recruit from or how that goes down- and they've gotten a lot better. Playing a public school isn't a niche thing for them anymore so they're used to it. Look at Jackson State's roster. They have several players from the Country Club schools. I never thought that would ever happen 25 years ago. Prep has players going to Baylor, Duke, Air Force I think and I know we're looking at one of the CB's. Hartfield has Brayland Womack who might be the best in the state in 2026, two guys going to Arkansas, and a guy going to Houston. A public school with that many players going D1 would be able to contend for a state title I would think.
Honestly, I could make a strong argument that Jackson Prep is the best overall football program in Mississippi High School football if you're talking about consistency.
HaggardDawg
11-25-2024, 09:36 AM
I wish we?d offer Kenzi West. I don?t understand, if he?s equal to some kid from Texas or juco, why not take the local kid? Also the DT from Hartfield London Simmons. These are guys we used to get. He?s a 3 star committed to Alabama with offers from LSU, Florida State, and Arkansas. But we haven?t offered. They also have Reggie Vaughn another DT committed to Arkansas. On top of that you have one of the top players in the nation as a junior in Braylon Womack. Assuming how little we?ve recruited Hartfield, have no shot at him.
RezDog7
11-25-2024, 09:47 AM
I wish we?d offer Kenzi West. I don?t understand, if he?s equal to some kid from Texas or juco, why not take the local kid? Also the DT from Hartfield London Simmons. These are guys we used to get. He?s a 3 star committed to Alabama with offers from LSU, Florida State, and Arkansas. But we haven?t offered. They also have Reggie Vaughn another DT committed to Arkansas. On top of that you have one of the top players in the nation as a junior in Braylon Womack. Assuming how little we?ve recruited Hartfield, have no shot at him.
Watched these kids play for years. No reason not to offer them.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 10:08 AM
I hope that is not you MS making these posts. I have some close McComb connections with a couple being some of my best friends. And as a side note- I could still hit a Parklane pitcher pitch for A HR today. 7 of 29 lifetime HS HR's thanks to the shitty pitching from McComb
a town of no-talent ragarms
If MS are initials then NO.
So I guess that means you were a private school legend back when there really was a difference between public and private. Thanks for clearing that up.
Parklane had some good pitchers and not so good pitchers. I guess it depends on when you came through. But to say all pitchers from McComb are shitty is a broad over generalization, but again have to consider the source here.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 10:13 AM
I wish we?d offer Kenzi West. I don?t understand, if he?s equal to some kid from Texas or juco, why not take the local kid? Also the DT from Hartfield London Simmons. These are guys we used to get. He?s a 3 star committed to Alabama with offers from LSU, Florida State, and Arkansas. But we haven?t offered. They also have Reggie Vaughn another DT committed to Arkansas. On top of that you have one of the top players in the nation as a junior in Braylon Womack. Assuming how little we?ve recruited Hartfield, have no shot at him.
Simmons is NOT the defensive lineman you want. I have watched numerous games even against lesser competition for him. Unless something drastically changes with him and effort, he won’t be at Al long.
Vaughn is a class act and wonderful young man and an absolute Dawg on the field. Hope nothing but the best for him and many contracts in his future.
Womack is rumored to be heading to IMG next year.
BUT I was told there are no athletes on private school teams and they couldn’t compete with East Webster, No county, Choctaw Cent or County or any public school for that matter. Hmmm
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 10:47 AM
Simmons is NOT the defensive lineman you want. I have watched numerous games even against lesser competition for him. Unless something drastically changes with him and effort, he won’t be at Al long.
Vaughn is a class act and wonderful young man and an absolute Dawg on the field. Hope nothing but the best for him and many contracts in his future.
Womack is rumored to be heading to IMG next year.
BUT I was told there are no athletes on private school teams and they couldn’t compete with East Webster, No county, Choctaw Cent or County or any public school for that matter. Hmmm
Oh they can compete. Like I said, top end talent they are close. I mean Cunningham and Taylor are the two best players in the state so they do not have that, but they have solid players. Heath recruited a hell of a team. Depth would be their issue against a public school and that’s when I think the public school team would pull away. If it was just a run of the mill 3A public school or a rebuilding team in a higher level I think they win. Obviously there will always be outlier private school teams(Greenville Christian in 21), but I do not believe a private school team would have an answer for Taylor.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 10:58 AM
You said early they would be run off the field by those teams now it is they would compete. Yes Taylor is a great player and Cunningham is as well, BUT they would not beat Hartfield, Prep or MRA. It is not even a debate. Give it a rest. One player can be taken out of the equation by coaching. I would dare say that Prep,MRA and Hartfield would “compete” as you say better against Brandon, Tupelo or any other major 6A/7A powers than any team you mentioned.
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 11:06 AM
You said early they would be run off the field by those teams now it is they would compete. Yes Taylor is a great player and Cunningham is as well, BUT they would not beat Hartfield, Prep or MRA. It is not even a debate. Give it a rest. One player can be taken out of the equation by coaching. I would dare say that Prep,MRA and Hartfield would “compete” as you say better against Brandon, Tupelo or any other major 6A/7A powers than any team you mentioned.
They would not. But hey, why don't they just schedule them? Weird they have never done that. I'm sure Tupelo would happily play them. Or Brandon. Heck. Noxubee would play anyone. The thing I liked about that Greenville Christian team a few years ago is that they literally didn't care. They wanted to play anyone. Travelled down to Oak Grove to play and travelled to Collins Hill to play Travis Hunter. They didn't care. Then of course Prep, JA, and MRA got their panties in a wad because Greenville Christian waxed all of them and started calling them out for doing THE EXACT THING they had done for decades.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 11:10 AM
Sorry you are right. I should have stuck with my original teams. I was trying to call out the Jackson private schools for how they have brought up talent.I got caught up in different conversations. I do still think Choctaw Central would run away from those teams and to me it would come down to depth and they have no one who can guard Cunningham. Like I said, I think the top end talent at those schools is the same and against a team like Choctaw I would probably give the nod to a Hartfield, but I think depth would win out. Also, man I would love to see Davis? offense turned loose with Kamario Taylor at QB. They would be hell on wheels.
I just read this argument from you
Cunningham and Choctaw County???? The same Choctaw County that this year lost to Parklane Academy??? Parklane Academy also played Prep and MRA. Care to guess what team got blown out by both??
You defeated your own argument. Wow, bad take and really bad comparison. I guess Parklane did not get ?out athleted” by Choctaw County and Cunningham
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 11:19 AM
I just read this argument from you
Cunningham and Choctaw County???? The same Choctaw County that this year lost to Parklane Academy??? Parklane Academy also played Prep and MRA. Care to guess what team got blown out by both??
You defeated your own argument. Wow, bad take and really bad comparison. I guess Parklane did not get ?out athleted” by Choctaw County and Cunningham
I still can't figure that one out. I have went back and watched it 3 times and it is incredible. Parklane had no one who could guard him and Choctaw just refused to just throw go routes. They were trying to run their offense instead of out athlete a private school team. I don't know if it was that Parklane had played twice and it was Choctaw's first game or what but I mean no part of that game makes sense. Go back and watch it.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 11:30 AM
I don’t need to go back and watch it. I know the quality that those 3 schools put on the field by FAR at EVERY position outclassed Parklane. And the fact that Parklane was not run of the field but indeed did BEAT Choctaw County just deepens the fact that your argument is INVALID.
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 11:36 AM
I don’t need to go back and watch it. I know the quality that those 3 schools put on the field by FAR at EVERY position outclassed Parklane. And the fact that Parklane was not run of the field but indeed did BEAT Choctaw County just deepens the fact that your argument is INVALID.
Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 11:42 AM
You meant … you could honestly NOT care less…. Have a good day
Coach34
11-25-2024, 02:38 PM
If MS are initials then NO.
So I guess that means you were a private school legend back when there really was a difference between public and private. Thanks for clearing that up.
6 of our guys on my HS team played college baseball- including one in the SEC and one D-II All-American. We were as good as anybody in the state
edited to add- The Jackson private schools have always been as good as public schools
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 03:42 PM
All I know is, we played and beat Parklane in the offseason and they would win state championships and we would not make the playoffs in 4A. And we had 2 guys on our team that have World Series rings. Plus we had 3 play college ball. One of those with the rings went straight pro out of college (this was my class only) not counting the guys graduating a year before or after my year.
confucius say
11-25-2024, 04:12 PM
Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.
I use to think like you until I started watching them.
MRA beat Oak grove by 43 points this year. The same oak grove that was playing in the 7A quarterfinals Friday. 43 points. And that was with a running clock. It could have been 60 if they wanted to.
Hartfield and prep and mra can compete (would win some and lose some) with anybody in the state.
Mra played Oak grove, Pulaski (ranked 4 in Arkansas public or private), prep (lost handily), Hartfield (won by 9), and JA (won by like 10). That's tougher than most public schools. Hartfield definitely needs to schedule better, no argument there.
SilentSteel16
11-25-2024, 04:51 PM
6 of our guys on my HS team played college baseball- including one in the SEC and one D-II All-American. We were as good as anybody in the state
edited to add- The Jackson private schools have always been as good as public schools
34 you will get no argument from me on public vs private baseball even 20-30 years ago. I would dare say private now is better than public competition wise. Also Hillcrest was probably best of the bunch and it doesn’t exist anymore.
However the old mantra from those same 20-30 years ago in regards to football is not valid anymore, which is what this thread turned into. Those big 3 private schools can and will compete with anyone in the state.
The argument that was said about not enough athletes is just laughable.
viverlibre
11-25-2024, 04:52 PM
Hartfield did if for the glory of God.
SteelCurtain74
11-25-2024, 05:12 PM
Ok cool. I've learned with other topics on this board that you think you're right and everyone else is wrong and I don't really care to keep having it. When Prep or Hartfield decides they want to play a schedule that doesn't include Copiah, Adams County Christian, Pillow, Simpson, and Oak Forest I will respect them and pay attention. Until then, I could honestly care less. I'm still going to think competition is not on the same level. Also, Shane is screwing up private schools so bad at this point I imagine most will be playing in the MHSAA within 5 years anyways.
My understanding is that Shane Blanton resigned as MAIS executive director a little over a week ago.
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 05:42 PM
My understanding is that Shane Blanton resigned as MAIS executive director a little over a week ago.
Damn.....haven't spoken to anyone on it. I like Shane as a person but he had the MAIS headed down a road that was turning some schools off
Coach34
11-25-2024, 08:00 PM
All I know is, we played and beat Parklane in the offseason and they would win state championships and we would not make the playoffs in 4A. And we had 2 guys on our team that have World Series rings. Plus we had 3 play college ball. One of those with the rings went straight pro out of college (this was my class only) not counting the guys graduating a year before or after my year.
Parklane was never very good in baseball. Their titles came in football. Also, many public school people dont usually take into account or even think about the fact that Parklane in MHSAA would have been a 2A school. So in 2A- they would have been a solid club.
And I was just giving ya some shit about McComb. Know alot of good guys from there. That damn town put out some great talent in the 80's.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-25-2024, 08:04 PM
I keep seeing that no private school could handle Kamario Taylor. MRA beat a high school senior quarterback named Shedeur Sanders. He’s now a Heisman candidate and potentially the top quarterback taken in the NFL draft.
Pancho
11-25-2024, 08:09 PM
good comparison although KT is a lil better at this stage than sanders was
somebodyshotmypaw
11-25-2024, 08:11 PM
good comparison although KT is a lil better at this stage than sanders was
He very well could be. The videos I’ve seen of Taylor show he’s hard to handle for anyone, public or private.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-25-2024, 08:15 PM
Sorry. I meant County and not Central. My bad on that one.
Choctaw County is 12-1. Their only loss is to Parklane Academy. Parklane lost by 22 to MRA and lost by 36 to Prep. Yet you say Prep would get run off the field by Choctaw County.
RezDog7
11-25-2024, 08:20 PM
Choctaw County is 12-1. Their only loss is to Parklane Academy. Parklane lost by 22 to MRA and lost by 36 to Prep. Yet you say Prep would get run off the field by Choctaw County.
Yeah, but still ***
StarkVegasSteve
11-25-2024, 08:31 PM
My understanding is that Shane Blanton resigned as MAIS executive director a little over a week ago.
Just talked to someone in the know about the whole situation with Shane. Yikes??.
SilentSteel16
12-01-2024, 07:42 PM
Their QB is accurate with the ball. I think someone at the G5 level will take a flier on him. He is smart with the ball on top of being accurate c
It looks like we took a flier on this G5 QB??he just committed to State.
StarkVegasSteve
12-01-2024, 07:44 PM
It looks like we took a flier on this G5 QB??he just committed to State.
It is a PWO spot.
SilentSteel16
12-01-2024, 07:53 PM
So you are good with putting G5 level QBs on the team …. Got it
StarkVegasSteve
12-01-2024, 08:16 PM
So you are good with putting G5 level QBs on the team …. Got it
Oh I am not, but I am not the coach. And he is costing $0 in NIL so whatever. We do need some more signalers with Weir and Parson moving on.
SilentSteel16
12-01-2024, 08:35 PM
I am mainly just messing with you. I have said it several times on this site. If this kid was a few inches taller he would have had scholarship offers to most SEC schools. He is a great arm talent.
StarkVegasSteve
12-01-2024, 08:40 PM
I am mainly just messing with you. I have said it several times on this site. If this kid was a few inches taller he would have had scholarship offers to most SEC schools. He is a great arm talent.
Now that I do not disagree with. I really thought he would get a scholly offer from a USM, USA, Ga State type program close to the February signing day. And he may still get that.
BankerDog
12-01-2024, 10:20 PM
It looks like we took a flier on this G5 QB??he just committed to State.
Evident you do not know who the Puckett family is?see this is where Ole Miss is better than our fans. Don?t even know our money players..laughable.
somebodyshotmypaw
12-02-2024, 12:13 AM
If the QB is Puckett from Prep, he would be the son of Hastings, the nephew of Rob, and the grandson of Richard. They own Puckett Equipment, Puckett Rents, Puckett Power Systems, etc. They are the Caterpillar dealer. I doubt they need an NIL deal.
SilentSteel16
12-02-2024, 08:57 AM
Evident you do not know who the Puckett family is?see this is where Ole Miss is better than our fans. Don?t even know our money players..laughable.
I know exactly who they are. I have watched him play since 9th grade. Very solid family. His family has absolutely nothing to do with why he is getting this opportunity. The kid throws a very good ball. If he would have been the neighbor down the street his on the field ability would have given him the opportunity.
SilentSteel16
12-02-2024, 08:58 AM
Evident you do not know who the Puckett family is?see this is where Ole Miss is better than our fans. Don?t even know our money players..laughable.
You evidently missed the reason why I said it the way that I said it……hopefully you are good with numbers because reading comprehension is lacking….
Pancho
12-02-2024, 06:53 PM
maybe he count cash good
Lord McBuckethead
12-04-2024, 02:55 PM
Hartfield is kind of creepy, meaning their curriculum.
StarkVegasSteve
12-04-2024, 02:57 PM
Hartfield is kind of creepy, meaning their curriculum.
Kind of is underrating it. But when you tie yourself to a megachurch then it tends to happen. Can't say too many bad things though. I do like Chip and he gives MSU a lot of money.
HaggardDawg
12-04-2024, 03:41 PM
The curriculum is the same as other private schools. They have chapel. Like other Christian schools. They are not tied to Pinelake. A lot of families and faculty attend there, yes, but Pinelake has zero say over what Hartfield is or does.
somebodyshotmypaw
12-04-2024, 07:51 PM
Just talked to someone in the know about the whole situation with Shane. Yikes??.
Yep. It ain’t good.
StarkVegasSteve
12-04-2024, 08:13 PM
Yep. It ain’t good.
There is a dang podcast out there about it now so everyone knows. That woman is airing everything too.
somebodyshotmypaw
12-04-2024, 08:29 PM
There is a dang podcast out there about it now so everyone knows. That woman is airing everything too.
Sneed?
StarkVegasSteve
12-04-2024, 08:41 PM
Sneed?
I do not know her name. I was told about the podcast and basically her gripe with the head of school at Heritage. That is how all of this started.
RezDog7
12-04-2024, 10:15 PM
Hartfield is kind of creepy, meaning their curriculum.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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