View Full Version : Dawgs vs SMU Game Thread
Coach34
11-22-2024, 08:01 PM
Get out of the car- and the Hubbard clan pulls up and parks next to us. Sitting behind them and of course my Ex has the Mom taking pics for us *♂️. Fun crew
SMU has a couple of guys with size. We may get hurt in the paint. Good test tonight.
IMissJack
11-22-2024, 08:15 PM
My brother is there with 4. May be a decent road crowd with Dallas alums.
Thick
11-22-2024, 08:25 PM
Hubb’s family are good people, really good!
somebodyshotmypaw
11-22-2024, 08:29 PM
Girls soccer currently 0-0 against Washington in the 2nd period.
Ranchdawg
11-22-2024, 08:30 PM
Hubb’s family are good people, really good!
Agree!
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 08:36 PM
Hate this starting lineup
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:37 PM
Hate this starting lineup
Jans loves playing cam and jones together, and I hate it
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 08:37 PM
Cam and Jones on the floor at the same time is pointless
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 08:39 PM
Jones is a 10–15 minute per game garbage point guy. The sooner Jans comes to grips with that the better. Kugel and Murphy are just better scorers
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 08:44 PM
Really bad combos and rotations by Jans so far. Plus we are playing horrible D.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:44 PM
Was that 3 straight possessions without a pass before a shot? I know 2 of 3
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 08:44 PM
Janstastic offensive basketball!!
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:46 PM
Last game, we had a long scoring drought in the 1st half, and we did it again tonight.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:47 PM
Murphy, you can't freaking shoot 3s!!! Stop!!!! F!!!
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 08:50 PM
Terrible offense, terrible substitutions, terrible game overall. Can’t score at all so let’s not put in Kugel at all in the first 10 minutes.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:51 PM
Murphy from 3...
2023: 17.9%
2024: 0%
Jans, pull him for 5 mins after every 3 att
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 08:53 PM
Where is Kugel? We can't shoot
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:53 PM
If this is what size does to us, we aren't making the tourney
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 08:55 PM
Maybe next season Jans will find some portal guards that can score against non SWAC competition
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 08:56 PM
Our guards are 1-8 from the floor.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:58 PM
That's where you should be taking shots, Murphy
msstate7
11-22-2024, 08:59 PM
Matthews and Murphy shooting 3s makes me wanna burn my house down
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 08:59 PM
Doing much better with 3 of those starters on the bench
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:01 PM
Doing much better with 3 of those starters on the bench
Kugel must be in Jans' doghouse. Only thing that makes sense as to why he sits in favor of jones
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:04 PM
Andrew Taylor I kind of understand. But Clary and Harris averaged double figures in power conferences and now look lost. Jans offense is just a black hole
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:05 PM
Jones doesn’t need to see the floor
SMU moving the ball well
And yes- the Hubbards are good people
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:07 PM
What is Jan's doing
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:08 PM
PLEASE, go find that blue blood job. And take this horrible offense with you!!
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:09 PM
We deserve to lose after that possession
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:10 PM
We aren't deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:11 PM
Missing too many open looks
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:12 PM
Melendez playing hard
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:12 PM
Let Scott Padget draw up some sets. I think Jans steals his plays from Upwards
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:13 PM
We’re missing open shots. He can’t shoot it for them
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:15 PM
I think we can get back in this game, but Jans has to stop with doing crap like starting nwoko, jones, and cam. That's begging for a scoring drought, and it came to fruition.
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:21 PM
They are moving the ball well and hurting us on our defensive rotations
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:21 PM
I think we can get back in this game, but Jans has to stop with doing crap like starting nwoko, jones, and cam. That's begging for a scoring drought, and it came to fruition.
He better not go same 5 to open the 2nd
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:23 PM
We’re missing open shots. He can’t shoot it for them
Some but a lot of our “shots” are driving the lane and throwing the ball at the rim. Utah and SMU have moved the ball and gotten wide open looks. We are getting none of that
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:23 PM
Really lucky to be down only 5
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:24 PM
Showed some scrappiness getting to down five.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:25 PM
Good news is, we aren't in any foul trouble. So tighten up the rotation
somebodyshotmypaw
11-22-2024, 09:26 PM
Girls soccer wins 1-0. Advances to sweet 16
Coach34
11-22-2024, 09:26 PM
Some but a lot of our “shots” are driving the lane and throwing the ball at the rim. Utah and SMU have moved the ball and gotten wide open looks. We are getting none of that
Because our guards arent breaking down the D and getting into the lane enough. Their G’s are driving the paint and kicking to bigger guys for shots. We don’t do that. If Hubbard drives he ain’t kicking to nobody for a 3
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:26 PM
Murphy has 9 didn't start
Kugel leads us in rebs didnt start.
Jones and nwoko combined line...
2 pts (all nwoko)
3 pts (all nwoko)
0 assists
SMU is shooting 51% from field, so don't tell me defense
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:28 PM
Go Hubb, Harris-for D, Kugel, Cam, and Key as the 5. Melendez as the 6th man for a lot of minutes. Then Clary. Then Nwoko for spot duty. So basically 7.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:34 PM
Go Hubb, Harris-for D, Kugel, Cam, and Key as the 5. Melendez as the 6th man for a lot of minutes. Then Clary. Then Nwoko for spot duty. So basically 7.
Think I would go with Nwoko and sit Cam to start the 2nd.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:37 PM
Apparently Jans has zero confidence in Chol.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:40 PM
Murphy has 9 didn't start
Kugel leads us in rebs didnt start.
Jones and nwoko combined line...
2 pts (all nwoko)
3 pts (all nwoko)
0 assists
SMU is shooting 51% from field, so don't tell me defense
Our backcourt sucking a$$ for the first sixteen minutes was the story of the half.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:42 PM
Kudos Jans. Kudos.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:42 PM
Clary with back-to-back assists
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:44 PM
Kudos Jans. Kudos.
Yep. Kept Cam on the floor to start the 2nd and he comes alive with two buckets.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:44 PM
Apparently Jans has zero confidence in Chol.
As he shouldn’t. Nothing against Chol. He just has an awkward body and no control of it. He’s got to learn to play like a big.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:45 PM
Apparently kugel was sick today
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:46 PM
Starting 5 has to include Kugel and Murphy from here out. Melendez first off the bench, Nwoko for depth and bring in Jones for a spark. But he’s just not a starter
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:46 PM
BS call on Cam.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 09:50 PM
Murphy 3. Ok, I'll shut up
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 09:53 PM
Murphy 3. Ok, I'll shut up
If he's wide open and in rhythm it's fine 2 to 4 times per game.
Ezsoil
11-22-2024, 09:53 PM
SMU may be big but they are soft ..
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 09:54 PM
Murphy 3. Ok, I'll shut up
I don’t like Cam taking them. But somebody has to make them besides Josh. Apparently Harris used up his shot in game 1
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 09:55 PM
Murphy 3. Ok, I'll shut up
Ke doing his part. With three guards on the floor again, we need them to step up this half.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:01 PM
This audio feed on hailstate is worse than our football team's defense
Coach34
11-22-2024, 10:03 PM
Hubbs getting swatted inside. This ain?t Alabama State
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:05 PM
Kugel, Murphy, and Melendez may not be your prototypical “bigs” but they have been difference makers in this game after the atrocious starting lineup.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:10 PM
Claudell!! Finally
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:14 PM
That's absolutely unacceptable by kugel
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:16 PM
That's another bull$hite call.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:19 PM
That's absolutely unacceptable by kugel
He looked fatigued.
Much better rotations by Jans this half. We have to hit shots.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:20 PM
Ok. At some point Hubbard needs to show up
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:21 PM
We had them at 6 fouls at the 14 minute mark and it took over 5 minutes to get to the Bonus. Meanwhile we started fouling every possession
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:23 PM
Ok. At some point Hubbard needs to show up
Yep. He's supposed to be that guy and he's been invisible.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:27 PM
Hubbard can't be trash and we win games.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:27 PM
KeShawn. Wow.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:28 PM
Clary having his best game as a bulldog
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:29 PM
Murphy from 3...
2023: 17.9%
2024: 0%
Jans, pull him for 5 mins after every 3 att
Murphy from 3 - 2/3
Hubbard from 3 - 2/8
Shut up, msstate7
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:29 PM
Hubbard can't be trash and we win games.
It was premature for folks to be having a 'best ever' convo about him.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:32 PM
It was premature for folks to be having a 'best ever' convo about him.
Fortunately for him, Jans brought in some talent. If Hubbard has this game last season we are down 66-49
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:34 PM
That dude is slower than Sean Bradley in the paint and we are letting him post up like Shaq
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:35 PM
Brick city for Hubbard
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:35 PM
Nwoko, stop fouling!
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:37 PM
Hey Hubbard, maybe you should pass
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:37 PM
Nwoko, stop fouling!
That was good D imo
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:38 PM
That was good D imo
Not on the radio lol
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:38 PM
We've just gotten killed at the 5 the last few.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:39 PM
Refs calling everything then they swallow the whistle on Cams drive
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:40 PM
Hubbard is 4/18 shooting (.222)
State minus Hubbard is 23/48 (.479)
magrooder
11-22-2024, 10:40 PM
I don't know much about basketball, but the foul call on us was way less than the no call on SMU
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:42 PM
I don't know much about basketball, but the foul call on us was way less than the no call on SMU
That's how it will be every road sec game, so good game to get ready for sec
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:42 PM
Hubbard is 4/18 shooting (.222)
State minus Hubbard is 23/48 (.479)
If we can win this game with Hubbard playing like this it would be huge.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:43 PM
If we can win this game with Hubbard playing like this it would be huge.
I agree.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:43 PM
Refs doing all they can
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:46 PM
I agree.
That, and we're almost at 80 points despite playing like shit....
magrooder
11-22-2024, 10:46 PM
Seriously? The turk can do anything he wants to
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:46 PM
Refs doing all they can
They have allowed SMU to use their physicality.
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:48 PM
They have allowed SMU to use their physicality.
Likely a theme this year
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:49 PM
What a find by Cam!!
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:49 PM
Please Hubb. Just hit ONE shot
Coach34
11-22-2024, 10:50 PM
Padgett called the play for the Kugel dunk
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:50 PM
Likely a theme this year
Yes. Likely.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:50 PM
Likely a theme this year
Yeah but SMU is huge.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:51 PM
No 3
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:52 PM
Padgett called the play for the Kugel dunk
Beauty of a play
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:52 PM
That's absolutely unacceptable by kugel
And he totally avenges himself. Atta boy
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:53 PM
Jans went to Kuegel over Chol and it was the right decision
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:54 PM
And he totally avenges himself. Atta boy
Loyd Christmas stuff***
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:55 PM
What a huge, gutsy turnaround by everyone. For them to pick up Hubbard this game is very satisfying
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:55 PM
Josh with some clutch FTs.
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:56 PM
Richard doesn't like the 3 FTs
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 10:57 PM
Very good win considering
msstate7
11-22-2024, 10:57 PM
Big win.
Now Jans, you've seen enough to know nwoko and jones can't be starting anymore
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:57 PM
Good win!
Played terrible.
On the road.
Previous years we would've scored 50 points, lol.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 10:57 PM
We have yet to play great basketball but still we are 17ING WINNING!!!! This team could be DANGEROUS if they find the sauce.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 10:59 PM
Yuuuuuuge
BeardoMSU
11-22-2024, 10:59 PM
20 assists, too!
DawgFromOxford
11-22-2024, 11:00 PM
Great win! We?ll really be cooking if we can find a way to not go down double digits in the first half
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 11:01 PM
Jans learned a lot this game hopefully.
MoreCowbell
11-22-2024, 11:01 PM
I really like the mental makeup of this team
MoreCowbell
11-22-2024, 11:03 PM
Hubbard, Murphy, Cam and Melendez need to get majority of minutes
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 11:03 PM
3 big games coming up.
schddog72
11-22-2024, 11:04 PM
Hubb?s family are good people, really good!
Ditto!! I met them in Charlotte last year at an alumni function the night before our NCAA loss to Michigan State. They are just first class folks.
HoopsDawg
11-22-2024, 11:06 PM
Hubbard, Murphy, Cam and Melendez need to get majority of minutes
Expand that to include Kugel, Clary and Harris. That's your 7. Then spot duty for Nwoko.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 11:09 PM
Jans learned a lot this game hopefully.
One thing I'd like to see from him is getting in the refs ears more. We're going to see more physical mismatches down low and we have to be able to front the offensive player with some authority. Refs did not do a good job with that tonight and wanted Jans to let them hear about it.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 11:13 PM
Expand that to include Kugel, Clary and Harris. That's your 7. Then spot duty for Nwoko.
For sure. May need Clary to start looking for offense to help relieve some of the pressure. So far Hubbard is not responding to being locked down.
Maybe D Wade was too much of a distraction. Every one of his shots was hard off the back iron.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 11:15 PM
Expand that to include Kugel, Clary and Harris. That's your 7. Then spot duty for Nwoko.
Yep
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 11:19 PM
Jans went to Kuegel over Chol and it was the right decision
Very unfortunate that Chol is not capable of contributing with his size. Especially in a game like tonight.
Todd4State
11-22-2024, 11:25 PM
This team is good! Going to be fun in March. I'm sure this game and Utah will go a long way down the road.
RockyDog
11-22-2024, 11:44 PM
The assist to turnover ratios for Clary, Hubbard, Harris and Cam are elite to this point. The team may be undersized by definition but they make up for it by hustling for rebounds and not throwing the ball all over the court.
We aren’t going to see many teams with 7’2 guys posting up in the paint and I thought that that slow Turk got bailed out by several suspect calls.
LC Dawg
11-22-2024, 11:50 PM
Hopefully that's a Q1 win at the end of the year.
I liked what I saw from Clary tonight even though he didn't shoot it great. I think he can be big for us this year.
Cam had a Cam stat line.
I was surprised to see we out rebounded them by 4.
Couple of big games coming up next.
StarkVegasSteve
11-22-2024, 11:52 PM
Bank and I were sitting by each other and he made the comment that Kugel was going to win the game for us….he yams it for basically the game winning dunk, should have been And 1. Even the SMU fans by us were saying that.
EdwardDrayton
11-22-2024, 11:53 PM
Bank and I were sitting by each other and he made the comment that Kugel was going to win the game for us….he yams it for basically the game winning dunk, should have been And 1. Even the SMU fans by us were saying that.
Absolutely should have been.
Coach34
11-23-2024, 12:18 AM
Choi is our 12th/13th option on the bench
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 01:01 AM
Choi is our 12th/13th option on the bench
That was evident when we went to Kugel when Nwoko fouled out. Just sitting down by the bench you could tell Jans had no interest of putting Chol in right there.
NCMSTFAN
11-23-2024, 08:28 AM
It's a great sign when our best player has an off night but we still find a way to win. I really like this team, yes we are deficient in a few areas and need more from the post but Murphy has been solid for us there even though he's not a true 5, he still produces. We outrebounded them by 4 so that's another good sign. No disrespect to Shawn Jones but he doesn't need to start, nor does he need alot of playing time. He does play good defense and can finish at the rim so he can be helpful in a limited role.
NCMSTFAN
11-23-2024, 08:50 AM
https://sports.yahoo.com/why-dwyane-wade-attending-mississippi-032342640.html
Dewayne Wade was at our game last night to watch Hubbard. He spoke to our team after the win also.
basedog
11-23-2024, 09:13 AM
Good teams find a way to win, we will be fine moving forward. It's still very early and two wins on the road are good. Basketball is a game that has "runs", plus Jans is the best Coach we have had in making adjustments.
Coach34
11-23-2024, 10:52 AM
Murphy played ball last night. Looks like maybe it’s starting to click. We’ll see on down the road how he responds when times get tough but I like what I saw last night.
While he lacks in post D- he is long and that helps a lot. As much as he hates playing against a true 5- it works both ways as a true 5 doesn’t want to have to guard him. As I and other have mentioned- he can hit the 3 when he gets a good look and his feet set. Hit 2 last night. Him pulling the other team’s 5 away from the basket should be very valuable offensively
Rawdawg
11-23-2024, 11:11 AM
Our bench outscored our starters 54-30. We’re currently 3rd in the country in assist to turnover ratio and as a team we’re shooting above 70% from the stripe. All of those indicate a high IQ deep team. It’s really really hard for teams to make any separation when we sub because we’re not bringing in guys that turn it over and our bench can make free throws. It’s early but this team has the makeup of top 4 seed.
somebodyshotmypaw
11-23-2024, 12:38 PM
If I am an opposing team with a good inside game, I would dump it inside a lot and try to get Keyshawn, Cam, and Nwoko in foul trouble.
On the flip side, we now have much more flexibility on the perimeter with our shooters. And we have more ability to play “positionless” basketball. This team can really do some things. I still feel like Keyshawn Murphy is the key. We are so much better when he is engaged, hustling, and working. He is long, skilled, and can be a matchup problem for opponents. We need Murphy to be on his game.
StarkVegasSteve
11-23-2024, 03:14 PM
We should have built an arena like SMU. With students who actually give a crap, a place like that would get LOUD
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