Monday Morning Thoughts- It's Always Darkest Before Dawn

[StarkVegasSteve]

Traveling back yesterday so I didn't have time to get all my thoughts out and kind of wanted to let things marinate and watch a couple of things back from the game. Being in Oxford this weekend, I didn't get a chance to watch our game as close as I would've liked.

1. Our run game has been a positive as the season has gone on. I thought Booth and Daniels both had their best games, at least in conference play, yesterday and thought our line really held up and opened holes for our backs. I don't believe Booth has any eligibility left, but bringing Daniels back for another year along with Gayten and a returning Seth Davis should have us good at that position for the foreseeable future. We would obviously take a complete back difference maker in the portal if one presented itself, but I think we stay pat there.

2. Our O-Line has started to gel a bit more as the season has gone on. There's still some breakdowns in pass pro, but some of the sacks are on Van Buren and his pocket presence, or lack thereof. I think their ability to create run gaps is encouraging for the future. Obviously we will have to replace Miner and Martinez up front so it'll be interesting to see who we bring in there. Work is slowly improving and if we give Pounders another year, I think he can be solid for us moving forward.

3. Van Buren had his worst game on Saturday. Some of that had to do with Tennessee's DL, but his pocket presence was really bad on Saturday. He also almost cost us on our first TD drive when he slid early. He had the chance to run out of bounds and didn't do it. I'm not saying take unnecessary hits, because we don't need him injured, but if the sideline is there you have to take that. I also thought he had bad pocket presence on the fumble. I get the pocket is collapsing, but we're in FG range. Eat that if you have to. If we could've gotten points there it is a one score game with their backup in and we had actually been stopping the run. As I have said for 6 weeks, we are going to bring in a transfer and he is going to compete with Van Buren, Taylor, and possibly even Shapen. May the best man win, I would have my money on the transfer or a healthy Shapen. I think Van Buren will be great here, I just don't think he's ready.

4. I thought Lebby called a decent game, except the end of the half. Not just running the ball there and taking it to half down 17-7 was a bad mistake. They come out and settle for a FG on the first drive of the 2nd half. If we do what we do on our drive it is 14-20 with Nico out of the game. It is the little things that make a big difference when you are a bad team.

5. I thought our D played one of THEIR better games, outside of two big plays in the first half. Obviously they wore down late and Tennessee still had 240 yds rushing but you forced a TO, got a goalline stop, and they were 5-14 on 3rd down. They're improving solely because of game experience. Yes Hutzler still needs to go, but we are improving a bit due to game experience.

6. Our receivers, outside of Coleman, had their worst game. We couldn't get a whole lot of separation from their DBs and when we did it didn't seem like they were on the same page with Van Buren. However, they are the least of my concerns.

7. 2-10 is the most likely outcome of this season. There is a hope and a prayer we could upset Mizzou and get to 3-9, but watching what I watched in Oxford on Saturday, we are not beating OM. We will be lucky to cross the 50 more than 3 times. They paid for big time players and they got some big time performances from those players. But they also got big time performances from HS kids they recruited like Perkins.

8. Atmosphere matters. I get we are in a very dark time for the football program, and yes winning hides a lot of problems and makes the atmosphere better, but our gameday is 40 years behind OM. It's a damn light show in that place. They are constantly hyping up the crowd. There's no stupid advertisements or promotions. It is all focused on the game and keeping the fans engaged. If you suck, you have to get creative to get people to the game, it's like we actively try to get people to not come. Also, traffic sucks on every college campus. So it's not just a Mississippi State thing.

9. We need 10-12 BIG TIME portal pieces, but we also need 20-25 depth pieces, and quality depth pieces. Some of the guys we got last year (Bingley-Jones, Denaud, Kpapka, Lanier, etc.) were not even quality depth pieces when we got them. Now a couple of them have turned into quality pieces, but some have not. Hell Denaud didn't even make it to fall camp.

10. I will give Lebby this, he took his coaching pills on Saturday. He realized Van Buren could not throw it and he ran it as much as possible. That's growth as a head coach. That's not trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Joe Moorhead never learned that.

11. Lastly, the hope is you look back on this season and see the growth that occured. Can I guarantee we are going to be immediately better next year? No. Our schedule is tough as hell. But I also know we are getting better. We are a lot more like that team that battled at UGA and at Tennessee than we are the team that was manhandled by Toledo and torched by Arkansas. I do still steadfastly believe that Jeff Lebby is the right man for the job. This offseason will tell us a lot about our program and where we are, let's hope we like what it tells us.

As always, #HailState

[CaptainObvious]

Thanks for this thoughtful analysis.

I'll check back in on the football program in 2026 when a completely new Roster and possibly completely new coaching staff are on the field. That is as much as I can be encouraged without assurances that the 2025 team can be a Bowl Team!

[Todd4State]

I have very little faith in MSU getting anything right with football. It's frustrating.

They can reel me back in with some simple changes and a new DC.

[gtowndawg]

Apathy has officially set in for the fan base. No idea if leadership can fix our football problem or not, I guess we will see.

[Cooterpoot]

OL straight up sucks in pass protection. We've flipped that LT spot all season and is only marginal in run blocking. It's not good.
MVB will start as long as he's here and healthy. He's not getting beaten out. Kid is a star!

[TrapGame]

I have very little faith in MSU getting anything right with football. It's frustrating.

They can reel me back in with some simple changes and a new DC.

I agree.

An experienced DC, a really good portal haul and I'll feel a lot better about the program.

[Todd4State]

I agree.

An experienced DC, a really good portal haul and I'll feel a lot better about the program.

This offseason is the most critical one in MSU football history.

If they make more excuses about "we need to see what revenue sharing looks like" they're going to lose more and more fans. I'll give them a clue- they're going to make a lot of money in revenue sharing so start spending it on better assistant coaches and stadium improvements.

[DownwardDawg]

Our leadership sucks so bad. We've lost all momentum that we gained with Byrne and Mullen. Gone.

[RockyDog]

Our leadership sucks so bad. We've lost all momentum that we gained with Byrne and Mullen. Gone.

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can’t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.

[Todd4State]

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can’t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.

The MSU administration are the ones that make the decisions. They're the ones directly responsible for the game atmosphere people complain about. They're the ones responsible in part for the lack of recruiting resources. They are the ones that have hired three first year coaches since Dan retired and none of those three- Moorhead, Arnett, or Lebby so far have worked out.

The fans have told them what we want and for the most part they simply refuse to do it and we are left with excuses about wanting to see what direction revenue sharing goes.

I don't think it's the fans that suck. Especially the 35K of us that keep showing up to watch us play "defense".

[Coursesuper]

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can?t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.

Todd's post is the MSU attitude on full display, we have yet to figure out that we the alumni and supporters are MSU. This is what the confederates have always and until this day do very well. They can get in lock step with each other while we pull 20 different directions. Everything that we are seeing now is a direct correlation of this fact.

[MBDawg601]

Todd's post is the MSU attitude on full display, we have yet to figure out that we the alumni and supporters are MSU. This is what the confederates have always and until this day do very well. They can get in lock step with each other while we pull 20 different directions. Everything that we are seeing now is a direct correlation of this fact.

This pull in the same direction mess has been thrown around for a while and means jack all.

The difference in them and us, is an actual head coach. Hire someone that knows that the hell they are doing and the support comes with it.

It doesn't matter which way we all pull, until our administration starts making big boy decisions - we will be eating at the kids table of the conference. Vandy would normally be there with us, but their administration seems to make far better decisions.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This pull in the same direction mess has been thrown around for a while and means jack all.

The difference in them and us, is an actual head coach. Hire someone that knows that the hell they are doing and the support comes with it.

It doesn't matter which way we all pull, until our administration starts making big boy decisions - we will be eating at the kids table of the conference. Vandy would normally be there with us, but their administration seems to make far better decisions.

It does matter which way we pull. It is why the fan base is so disjointed. No matter the decision, we have a sect of fans that disagree with it and get very vocal about it. Just in the last 4 years it has been: end zone paint, change the logo, change the logo again because we want another one, rap music, LED lights, and getting rid of Don’t Stop Believing because that was a Mullen thing and it is stupid.

Some of those things do matter and it is ok to be upset about them, but the difference in other fan bases and ours is that their fans shut the hell up, row in the same direction, and then once the season is over they start speaking to difference makers about these issues. Our fan base openly bitches on every form of social media there is 365 days a year about it.

[DownwardDawg]

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can’t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.

Terrible, clueless post.

[DownwardDawg]

Todd's post is the MSU attitude on full display, we have yet to figure out that we the alumni and supporters are MSU. This is what the confederates have always and until this day do very well. They can get in lock step with each other while we pull 20 different directions. Everything that we are seeing now is a direct correlation of this fact.

That starts with leadership.

[KOdawg1]

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can’t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.
Cohen and his administration are absolutely to blame.

[Activated Alpha]

Byrne has been gone a decade and a half and Mullen nearly a decade. How about MSU fans take some accountability in this for all the bitching and moaning and apathy. You can?t blame the mean ol administration for EVERYTHING. At some point you have got to just come to the conclusion that, for the most part, MSU fans and alums just suck.

I refuse to believe this kid isn't an OM troll

[MBDawg601]

It does matter which way we pull. It is why the fan base is so disjointed. No matter the decision, we have a sect of fans that disagree with it and get very vocal about it. Just in the last 4 years it has been: end zone paint, change the logo, change the logo again because we want another one, rap music, LED lights, and getting rid of Don?t Stop Believing because that was a Mullen thing and it is stupid.

Some of those things do matter and it is ok to be upset about them, but the difference in other fan bases and ours is that their fans shut the hell up, row in the same direction, and then once the season is over they start speaking to difference makers about these issues. Our fan base openly bitches on every form of social media there is 365 days a year about it.

Fans bitching about end zone paint, LEDs, logos ect... does not put points on the board and keep the other team off of it.

Win games. Hire actual head coaches. Not these pretenders that couldn't run a highschool program.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Fans bitching about end zone paint, LEDs, logos ect... does not put points on the board and keep the other team off of it.

Win games. Hire actual head coaches. Not these pretenders that couldn't run a highschool program.

Where in there was winning mentioned? Where was anything about the ON FIELD PRODUCT mentioned? I am talking about the fan base. And it is obviously not a winning thing, because fans were bitching about stuff when we were winning 9 games in 2022.

[MBDawg601]

Where in there was winning mentioned? Where was anything about the ON FIELD PRODUCT mentioned? I am talking about the fan base. And it is obviously not a winning thing, because fans were bitching about stuff when we were winning 9 games in 2022.

Fans are always going to bitch. Do not act like it is specific to our fan base. The difference is, most teams have ACTUAL head coaches and have hopes of winning. We are bottom of the bottom, because of our administration making lazy hires and settling for the first coach that shows any interest in us.

A lot of millions paid out in payroll for piss poor decision making.

[Coursesuper]

That starts with leadership.

How do you think John Cohen ended up as the AD?

[Coursesuper]

Cohen and his administration are absolutely to blame.

Bingo. This is where it went south thanks to a few well placed boosters a couple of willing participants in the department the previous AD and a media member looking to make a splash and move on.

[Coursesuper]

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[DawgFromOxford]

I keep seeing that "we must pull in the same direction" thrown around. That sounds great but practically can someone explain what exactly pulling in the same direction would look like? Because right now its just a vague statement on a message board.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I keep seeing that "we must pull in the same direction" thrown around. That sounds great but practically can someone explain what exactly pulling in the same direction would look like? Because right now its just a vague statement on a message board.

Ole Miss pulls in the same direction. They are completely aligned from the AD, to the boosters, to the media, and down to the $5 fans. They all spew the same message. Whether it's about Kiffin, Vaught-Hemingway, NIL, Oxford, The Grove, etc. It doesn't matter. It is one clear and concise message. Whereas we have media members openly trashing the university over a damn logo, trashing the DC(hell we know he's bad, we don't need pizza boy and the high school sports reporter to tell us that), fans forming petitions for logos, fans trashing everything about gameday from 2 hours before to 2 hours after, etc.

We know we're not perfect and we know we have things that need to be fixed. We had a shit AD that was forced on the President by an overzealous group of boosters that wanted their power back. That shit for brains AD only cared about a non revenue sport and torpedoed the money maker so he could give that program everything. That same over zealous group of boosters then decided they wanted more power when their was a power void and forced an in over his head DC to be the HC of an SEC Program.

[Coursesuper]

Ole Miss pulls in the same direction. They are completely aligned from the AD, to the boosters, to the media, and down to the $5 fans. They all spew the same message. Whether it's about Kiffin, Vaught-Hemingway, NIL, Oxford, The Grove, etc. It doesn't matter. It is one clear and concise message. Whereas we have media members openly trashing the university over a damn logo, trashing the DC(hell we know he's bad, we don't need pizza boy and the high school sports reporter to tell us that), fans forming petitions for logos, fans trashing everything about gameday from 2 hours before to 2 hours after, etc.

We know we're not perfect and we know we have things that need to be fixed. We had a shit AD that was forced on the President by an overzealous group of boosters that wanted their power back. That shit for brains AD only cared about a non revenue sport and torpedoed the money maker so he could give that program everything. That same over zealous group of boosters then decided they wanted more power when their was a power void and forced an in over his head DC to be the HC of an SEC Program.

There is nothing false in any of this. Dead on point.

[DawgFromOxford]

Ole Miss pulls in the same direction. They are completely aligned from the AD, to the boosters, to the media, and down to the $5 fans. They all spew the same message. Whether it's about Kiffin, Vaught-Hemingway, NIL, Oxford, The Grove, etc. It doesn't matter. It is one clear and concise message. Whereas we have media members openly trashing the university over a damn logo, trashing the DC(hell we know he's bad, we don't need pizza boy and the high school sports reporter to tell us that), fans forming petitions for logos, fans trashing everything about gameday from 2 hours before to 2 hours after, etc.

We know we're not perfect and we know we have things that need to be fixed. We had a shit AD that was forced on the President by an overzealous group of boosters that wanted their power back. That shit for brains AD only cared about a non revenue sport and torpedoed the money maker so he could give that program everything. That same over zealous group of boosters then decided they wanted more power when their was a power void and forced an in over his head DC to be the HC of an SEC Program.

Can't disagree with any of that.

[Goldendawg]

How do you think John Cohen ended up as the AD?

Because we have a decades long history of hiring "On the Job Training" AD's along with OC's who have never been HC's & Position Coaches who have never been DC's, (Most recently two years in a row on "On the Job Training FB HC's & DC's). I have been going in person for 61 years since age 8 and the only times this has worked out at AD is Byrne and maybe Strickland and the only times at HC have been Tyler and Mullen. Yet our geniuses in charge keep expecting successful results. We actually promoted Shira from HC to AD when he has one of the worse winning % in the history of MSU FB. And we wonder why we have been near the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for, a joke!

[Coursesuper]

Because we have a decades long history of hiring "On the Job Training" AD's along with OC's who have never been HC's & Position Coaches who have never been DC's, (Most recently two years in a row on "On the Job Training FB HC's & DC's). I have been going in person for 61 years since age 8 and the only times this has worked out at AD is Byrne and maybe Strickland and the only times at HC have been Tyler and Mullen. Yet our geniuses in charge keep expecting successful results. We actually promoted Shira from HC to AD when he has one of the worse winning % in the history of MSU FB. And we wonder why we have been near the bottom of the SEC. You get what you pay for, a joke!

Trying hard here but your missing the forest for the trees. BTW Coach Shira was part of hiring Bob Tyler.

[Goldendawg]

Trying hard here but your missing the forest for the trees. BTW Coach Shira was part of hiring Bob Tyler.

The forest has had very few "mighty oaks" in my lifetime hiring wise as far as successful HC's and AD's.***

[Maroonthirteen]

So many good points Steve. Everyone pulling in the same direction could start in two weekends. Come to the game! Show up! I know.... we may not win. Enjoy campus and local Starkville. Cheer and support the program. 3:15pm kickoff.

If you can, give $100 (or more) to the State Excellence.

If we come back this time next year, out of a bowl, with no portal haul, same coaches and AD. Then it's time to have some serious decisions and fire a lot of people.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So many good points Steve. Everyone pulling in the same direction could start in two weekends. Come to the game! Show up! I know.... we may not win. Enjoy campus and local Starkville. Cheer and support the program. 3:15pm kickoff.

If you can, give $100 (or more) to the State Excellence.

If we come back this time next year, out of a bowl, with no portal haul, same coaches and AD. Then it's time to have some serious decisions and fire a lot of people.

1000%. If I was not already going to be at the basketball game in Dallas against SMU the night before, I would be in Starkville the next day.

To your next point, I wholeheartedly agree. Donating to the State Excellence Fund should actually assuage a lot of people’s concerns with donating to a non University entity. The State Excellence Fund is through the school so you are donating to Mississippi State.

To the last point, yes. If we come back next year and go 2-10 and look bad doing it then heads need to roll. From what I have heard, we have already made portal inroads on both sides of the ball, despite what pizza boy and his sidekick with a podcast continue to spew. They have been cut off from info if you cannot tell. We have made a SERIOUS FINANCIAL COMMITMENT to fixing things through the portal.

[Coursesuper]

The forest has had very few "mighty oaks" in my lifetime hiring wise as far as successful HC's and AD's.***

Try to think who exactly hired the AD's its not who you would think it is more often that not. We are at the mercy of a fractured alumni base that is constantly pulling for control against each other, there are sperate factions based on not only geography as it once was but now lobbyist and and biz types have ganged up together. Have fun pulling that into a cohesive unit. This is why we struggle, they want what is good for them not what is good for the university or the athletic department. The confederates are miles ahead of us here and I believe that is blatantly apparent.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Try to think who exactly hired the AD's its not who you would think it is more often that not. We are at the mercy of a fractured alumni base that is constantly pulling for control against each other, there are sperate factions based on not only geography as it once was but now lobbyist and and biz types have ganged up together. Have fun pulling that into a cohesive unit. This is why we struggle, they want what is good for them not what is good for the university or the athletic department. The confederates are miles ahead of us here and I believe that is blatantly apparent.

And I am also here to tell you, it's not on Keenum. The Cohen hire was forced on him and had those boosters gotten their way after Cohen left, the hire would've been Benko. We have a group of boosters, some new money and some old money, that were told to kick rocks by Byrne and kept at bay by Stricklin. However, when the Florida AD was rumored to be coming open and people knew Stricklin would try and get it, those boosters saw an opportunity. They had already gotten Cohen the Assc. AD role earlier in the year and they started behind the scenes politicking for Cohen. They got in the ear of a lot of long time staffers and basically sold them of the power they could obtain under Cohen. They then got in the ear of Board Members and told them how good Cohen would be at the job and how he would continue what Stricklin was building. Then they got Stricklin to endorse him, still don't know how that happened, and it was over. Lastly, their coup d'etat was leaking it(through Steve Robertson) to the Clarion Ledger that Cohen was getting the job. This caused numerous calls from more qualified candidates to Keenum basically telling him to kick rocks if this is how a search is going to be run. Then the minute Cohen got the job, he torpedoed everything Byrne and Stricklin had built for 8 years.

[Coursesuper]

And I am also here to tell you, it's not on Keenum. The Cohen hire was forced on him and had those boosters gotten their way after Cohen left, the hire would've been Benko. We have a group of boosters, some new money and some old money, that were told to kick rocks by Byrne and kept at bay by Stricklin. However, when the Florida AD was rumored to be coming open and people knew Stricklin would try and get it, those boosters saw an opportunity. They had already gotten Cohen the Assc. AD role earlier in the year and they started behind the scenes politicking for Cohen. They got in the ear of a lot of long time staffers and basically sold them of the power they could obtain under Cohen. They then got in the ear of Board Members and told them how good Cohen would be at the job and how he would continue what Stricklin was building. Then they got Stricklin to endorse him, still don't know how that happened, and it was over. Lastly, their coup d'etat was leaking it(through Steve Robertson) to the Clarion Ledger that Cohen was getting the job. This caused numerous calls from more qualified candidates to Keenum basically telling him to kick rocks if this is how a search is going to be run. Then the minute Cohen got the job, he torpedoed everything Byrne and Stricklin had built for 8 years.

This is also all true.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is also all true.

It really is sad that we have boosters that care more about themselves and the info they could get than Mississippi State. Unfortunately, their LARGE checks still cash so we have to still play nice with them.

[Coursesuper]

It really is sad that we have boosters that care more about themselves and the info they could get than Mississippi State. Unfortunately, their LARGE checks still cash so we have to still play nice with them.

Yep, sadly it's the way of our world.

[AROB44]

Yep, sadly it's the way of our world.

Capitalism at work.....Money talks..BS walks.

[Coach34]

I view Cohen a little differently.

Brought us our only national championship
Made the decision to change basketball coaches and obviously made a good hire In Jan

However his two football hires were bad. JoVester was just simply a bad call. This was a "i'm the smartest man in the room" kind of hire. We were in a good place in football and JoVester just tanked it. Then following that with Leach- another terrible decision. I get the outside the box thinking of the hire- but it just wasnt the right time for that. Granted it was bad luck with him dying- but we were still getting a Leach that was not recruiting like he should. That bill was going to come had he survived.

Too many give Cohen more shit than he deserves. He wasnt really a bad AD- but his football hires were brutal. With football driving the machine- it obviously makes things worse than they really were.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I view Cohen a little differently.

Brought us our only national championship
Made the decision to change basketball coaches and obviously made a good hire In Jan

However his two football hires were bad. JoVester was just simply a bad call. This was a "i'm the smartest man in the room" kind of hire. We were in a good place in football and JoVester just tanked it. Then following that with Leach- another terrible decision. I get the outside the box thinking of the hire- but it just wasnt the right time for that. Granted it was bad luck with him dying- but we were still getting a Leach that was not recruiting like he should. That bill was going to come had he survived.

Too many give Cohen more shit than he deserves. He wasnt really a bad AD- but his football hires were brutal. With football driving the machine- it obviously makes things worse than they really were.

I mean you left out the part where he completely gutted one of the best media marketing depts in the conference within 90 days. Followed that up by moving anyone with any decent ideas to baseball.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Capitalism at work.....Money talks..BS walks.

Except at Mississippi State. Where money talks and BS bitches incessantly on message boards, social media, and basically any form of medium that can run down the university.

[Coach34]

Mississippi and State are a direct reflection of the Democrat and Republican parties

Mississippi is just like the Dems- everybody uses the same talking points. Everybody is in lock step no matter how bad it gets. Uses the "its not a lie if you say it enough" philosophy as if its biblical.

State is like the Reps. Different factions wanting things their way. Jealousy. Back-stabbing. Refusal to put aside differences for the greater good. Agree on what needs to be done but refuses to agree on how to get there.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Mississippi and State are a direct reflection of the Democrat and Republican parties

Mississippi is just like the Dems- everybody uses the same talking points. Everybody is in lock step no matter how bad it gets. Uses the "its not a lie if you say it enough" philosophy as if its biblical.

State is like the Reps. Different factions wanting things their way. Jealousy. Back-stabbing. Refusal to put aside differences for the greater good. Agree on what needs to be done but refuses to agree on how to get there.

You know, I never thought of it like that. But you are right.

[AROB44]

Except at Mississippi State. Where money talks and BS bitches incessantly on message boards, social media, and basically any form of medium that can run down the university.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to StarkVegasSteve again.

[Mjoelner34]

Mississippi and State are a direct reflection of the Democrat and Republican parties

Mississippi is just like the Dems- everybody uses the same talking points. Everybody is in lock step no matter how bad it gets. Uses the "its not a lie if you say it enough" philosophy as if its biblical.

State is like the Reps. Different factions wanting things their way. Jealousy. Back-stabbing. Refusal to put aside differences for the greater good. Agree on what needs to be done but refuses to agree on how to get there.

This may be the best post you've ever made! This is 100% correct!