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coachnorm
11-09-2024, 01:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bck_CHmtWPI&t=375s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDCRLJHRTc

Shared Military Observation

A couple weeks ago I went to Naval Air Station North Island, in San Diego, to renew my military ID card. I drove to my last work station and glanced into the F/A-18 hangar to say hi to some fellow workmates. While on station I saw many sailors walking by in their dress blues and I noticed the USS Theodore Roosevelt docked on site. The ship just got back from an extended deployment exceeding nine months. I have worked at NAS North Island for about 18 years in addition to my six years on active duty mostly in the UK at Holy Loch, submarine repair forward operating facility.

I have observed many joyful reunions after deployments but this had a different vibe. There was the usual closeness and happiness but there seemed to more stress relief than joy. The military families and couples appeared mentally beat down by this deployment. I drove home after this observation and did some introspection. I just kept thinking about the vibe.

I have a neighbor who is a retired senior chief petty officer E-8 and I talked to him about my observation. We discuss military matters a lot more than sports and he told me something disturbing. The neighbor has a friend who has not retired yet attached to the Roosevelt who said that they might have to redeploy early next year. Traditionally, a carrier does not redeploy until 18 months.

Our servicemen and women are in line for future stress in the future. Past venues used back in WWII are being reinvigorated due to the Chinese threat to Taiwan. If Taiwan is damaged or vanquished there goes 90% of the chips that drive the world economy referenced in second Youtube link. There will be no political solutions, just military. If Ukraine falls, Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea will get busier and move their agendas up. When the four enemies move up their agendas, they move up our servicemen's agendas also. That is why the Seabees are busy as hell reclaiming past air bases in the jungle ridden Pacific Island air basses of the past.

Last year I did not post on Veterans Day because I was more interested in reading something from elitedoggers than posting. No one posted last year so just felt that I would go up to bat for the Military this year.

parabrave
11-10-2024, 03:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bck_CHmtWPI&t=375s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQDCRLJHRTc

Shared Military Observation

A couple weeks ago I went to Naval Air Station North Island, in San Diego, to renew my military ID card. I drove to my last work station and glanced into the F/A-18 hangar to say hi to some fellow workmates. While on station I saw many sailors walking by in their dress blues and I noticed the USS Theodore Roosevelt docked on site. The ship just got back from an extended deployment exceeding nine months. I have worked at NAS North Island for about 18 years in addition to my six years on active duty mostly in the UK at Holy Loch, submarine repair forward operating facility.

I have observed many joyful reunions after deployments but this had a different vibe. There was the usual closeness and happiness but there seemed to more stress relief than joy. The military families and couples appeared mentally beat down by this deployment. I drove home after this observation and did some introspection. I just kept thinking about the vibe.

I have a neighbor who is a retired senior chief petty officer E-8 and I talked to him about my observation. We discuss military matters a lot more than sports and he told me something disturbing. The neighbor has a friend who has not retired yet attached to the Roosevelt who said that they might have to redeploy early next year. Traditionally, a carrier does not redeploy until 18 months.

Our servicemen and women are in line for future stress in the future. Past venues used back in WWII are being reinvigorated due to the Chinese threat to Taiwan. If Taiwan is damaged or vanquished there goes 90% of the chips that drive the world economy referenced in second Youtube link. There will be no political solutions, just military. If Ukraine falls, Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea will get busier and move their agendas up. When the four enemies move up their agendas, they move up our servicemen's agendas also. That is why the Seabees are busy as hell reclaiming past air bases in the jungle ridden Pacific Island air basses of the past.

Last year I did not post on Veterans Day because I was more interested in reading something from elitedoggers than posting. No one posted last year so just felt that I would go up to bat for the Military this year.

My Uncle left MSU in 41 and received a commision in the Naval Construction Corps and was an original SEABEE. He helped build airfields all over the pacific including Tinian and built Saipan Airfield while under shellfire from the Japanese/ Came back home after the war and finally got his degree in 47 I think. He would get a kick out of the AFs being rebuilt 80 years after construction/ My dad never went to College but went to OCS at MSU and received his comission in 42. We still have his OCS Yearbook and have tried to donate it to the University but have never been contacted/

Ranchdawg
11-10-2024, 06:55 AM
First and foremost Thank You for your service. My dad was a navy pilot in WWII in the pacific theater. He returned home and graduated from MSU class of 1949. Growing up if I heard it once I heard it a thousand times! FLY NAVY!

Political Hack
11-10-2024, 05:45 PM
Love this post. Thanks for sharing and for your service!

I have a feeling we're about to have our military spread out all over the world. Too many conflicts ongoing/bubbling up for us to police them all. We've already increased our presence in the Middle East and are pumping a supply chain straight into Ukraine. We either keep doing that or we pull out of NATO, which will likely be followed pretty quickly by WW3. If that happens, at some point we'll have to involve our soldiers. I'm concerned about a lot of things right now globally and domestically, but I think our troops are headed to some difficult and demanding years in the very near future. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

coachnorm
11-10-2024, 07:29 PM
Love this post. Thanks for sharing and for your service!

I have a feeling we're about to have our military spread out all over the world. Too many conflicts ongoing/bubbling up for us to police them all. We've already increased our presence in the Middle East and are pumping a supply chain straight into Ukraine. We either keep doing that or we pull out of NATO, which will likely be followed pretty quickly by WW3. If that happens, at some point we'll have to involve our soldiers. I'm concerned about a lot of things right now globally and domestically, but I think our troops are headed to some difficult and demanding years in the very near future. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

Share some more for you during my active duty. When I was 18, I was ordered to Site One Subron 14 out of Holy Loch, Scotland. At that time the United States had 4 basic enemies and they were USSR now Russia, China, Viet-Nam, and North Korea. Now 55 years later and the only change is Viet-Nam for Iran.

In 1970, Site One had the best tactical nuclear missiles in the US arsenal. I am not talking ICBMs from distance; I am talking theatre distance multiple warhead missiles that strike a lot quicker than ICBMs.

During this time frame the US military had assets in the vicinity of the Fulda Gap in the Munich, Germany area. Our airmen and solders were at a 10 to one disadvantage, in tanks, in that area. The life expediency of a US Airman or Army Solder was less than an hour if Fulda Gap failed. One of Site Ones major responsibilities was to be ready to severely punish those Moscow bastards if they try something stupid?

And now it is almost 55 years later and not much has changed in the end game, just a swap of Viet-Nam for Iran? I hope that our leadership has not lost the knowledge from the Cold War? Have those Moscow bastards changed, since 1945, when evaluating the end game? I bet Russia, China, N Korea, and Iran, courage will increase and the US will get tag teamed, if Ukraine falls.

Pancho
11-11-2024, 08:27 AM
In your opinion, will our recent change of residency on pennsylvania ave help or hurt these issues?

coachnorm
11-11-2024, 12:00 PM
In your opinion, will our recent change of residency on pennsylvania ave help or hurt these issues?

I am totally confused to be honest. Trump was very accommodating, to Putin, during the presidential campaign yet he public ally reprimanded Putin days after he won the election? Trump even told Putin to scale down the retaking of Russian territory in Kursk?

Russian media, controlled by Putin, even posted the president elect wife naked images on Russian national television, this confuses me more with the anti-Trump rhetoric spewing on their media also.

I am also wondering about Russia and Iran committing to each other and Iranian proxies setting up an assassination attempt on the president elect and the cause – effect end game.

I am guessing that Trump may have figured out that Ukraine and Taiwan end games are not separatable and might act accordingly.

viverlibre
11-11-2024, 01:34 PM
As they say in the Navy, you're not a man until you've been with a man. 1000 men go out 500 couples come back. It's not gay if you're underway.

coachnorm
11-11-2024, 02:05 PM
As they say in the Navy, you're not a man until you've been with a man. 1000 men go out 500 couples come back. It's not gay if you're underway.

https://youtu.be/a3GI8G-zxT8?si=-_kPOh_vyPsvZJNZ

Some out there share a different view of Veterans Day called Rememberance Day in other parts of the world? Consider a 2 minute silence?

Political Hack
11-12-2024, 10:17 PM
If we pull out of NATO and NATO folds (and it will without us), Russia, China, Iran, and N.Korea (likely aiding the others) will almost certainly march straight into war. If anyone responds in a meaningful way at that point, we'll essentially be in WW3. If all this happens you could argue that Russia invading Ukraine really kicked off WW3, but unless NATO folds and Russia takes back Ukraine, they won't escalate elsewhere. The military and geopolitical strategy of keeping them engaged in Ukraine and draining their resources before they can even get off their front porch is smart. If they take Ukraine, Poland is next. Then perhaps East Germany. And if this is happening unchecked by NATO, China will almost certainly take back Taiwan.

coachnorm
11-13-2024, 02:43 PM
In your opinion, will our recent change of residency on pennsylvania ave help or hurt these issues?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Out9lIuPvtM

This is a YouTube Channel that I watch every day for updates on Ukraine. The Two guys are from Birmingham, Alabama and are really good as I see it. Any elitedogger who has an interrest in the Ukraine war should maybe click the subscribe button for quality updates. This episode of the ENFORCER might give you some insight in regards to your question.

TUSK
11-13-2024, 11:12 PM
https://youtu.be/usQ5_u7myic

TUSK
11-13-2024, 11:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Out9lIuPvtM

This is a YouTube Channel that I watch every day for updates on Ukraine. The Two guys are from Birmingham, Alabama and are really good as I see it. Any elitedogger who has an interrest in the Ukraine war should maybe click the subscribe button for quality updates. This episode of the ENFORCER might give you some insight in regards to your question.

What is the Ukraine paying (via US taxation)? I wouldn't mind gettin' some of that back...

Political Hack
11-15-2024, 11:22 AM
What is the Ukraine paying (via US taxation)? I wouldn't mind gettin' some of that back...

You do understand the cost of doing nothing is much greater than the cost of not letting Russia off its front porch?