Dear Coach Lebby

[parabrave]

It's apparent that your present protection package for insuring MVB survives is total bullshit. Please for the Love of God and MVBs survival come up with something because this OLine just plain sucks. Oh yeah just blitz the entire defense every play.

[Bothrops]

We bought what we thought were solid OL pieces but it didn't work out. Portal OL guys are like a coin flip. If you don't have enough time to craft high school guys anymore, what other options are there?

[HoopsDawg]

Cody Kennedy owes Hutzler lunch bc he isn't getting near the criticism he deserves.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Cody Kennedy owes Hutzler lunch bc he isn't getting near the criticism he deserves.

Isn’t that the truth Kennedy is not a good coach and Lebby made a mistake hiring him. As bad as the defense is I give Hutz a pass in some ways because there is clearly a huge talent deficiency. Now if we get a couple games through SEC play and nothing is better then it will be time to get rid of him and look elsewhere

[StarkVegasSteve]

Cody Kennedy owes Hutzler lunch bc he isn't getting near the criticism he deserves.

David Turner and Cody Kennedy do. They both should be getting FAR MORE criticism than they get.

[Mjoelner34]

I said before that I'd go after this guy for O line coach after the season. He coached with Lebby at Baylor and Ole Miss. He is currently making $600k. Kennedy makes $750k.

https://goheels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/randy-clements/4297

[Coach34]

I said before that I'd go after this guy for O line coach after the season. He coached with Lebby at Baylor and Ole Miss. He is currently making $600k. Kennedy makes $750k.

https://goheels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/randy-clements/4297

make you wonder why he didnt in the first place? Or was Lebbo turned down?

[Mjoelner34]

make you wonder why he didnt in the first place? Or was Lebbo turned down?

Good question. I know he's the guy that Kiffin dumped without consulting with Lebby and Lebby was pissed.

[Thick]

Cody Kennedy owes Hutzler lunch bc he isn't getting near the criticism he deserves.

This all day long!

[mparkerfd20]

Lebby has proven absolute jack shit more than what we already knew. He's a great OC. He's yet to show he has a clue being a HC. His hires were atrocious a best.

[Pancho]

please provide info on who should have been hired and why they didn't sign on with lebby initially.

[DEDawg]

Lebby has proven absolute jack shit more than what we already knew. He's a great OC. He's yet to show he has a clue being a HC. His hires were atrocious a best.
It?s not really uncommon for first time HCs to have trouble putting staff together. If we show we are behind Lebby and give him the resources to succeed then he will be fine with his next staff

[Really Clark?]

Lebby has proven absolute jack shit more than what we already knew. He's a great OC. He's yet to show he has a clue being a HC. His hires were atrocious a best.

Mullen's first DC was Torbush, he rectified that mistake. Lebby has made mistakes but he's also made positive moves as a first time HC as well.

[Todd4State]

Mullen's first DC was Torbush, he rectified that mistake. Lebby has made mistakes but he's also made positive moves as a first time HC as well.

Dan also botched the LSU and Houston games that year by getting too cute and not challenging a wrong call by the officials.

Safe to say he improved.

[Really Clark?]

Dan also botched the LSU and Houston games that year by getting too cute and not challenging a wrong call by the officials.

Safe to say he improved.

Correct! And Torbush had a whole lot more talent to work with and turned in a subpar effort. He was told to look elsewhere before the end of the year.

[Brobi-wan]

Correct! And Torbush had a whole lot more talent to work with and turned in a subpar effort. He was told to look elsewhere before the end of the year.

Some fans are really hammering Lebby for something that’s not totally his fault. Probably not even 50% his fault if we’re not looking through maroon colored glasses. This is year 0. It doesn’t count. Is it hard? Yeah. I’ve been to every game but one. We’re playing the long game here.

[Todd4State]

Some fans are really hammering Lebby for something that’s not totally his fault. Probably not even 50% his fault if we’re not looking through maroon colored glasses. This is year 0. It doesn’t count. Is it hard? Yeah. I’ve been to every game but one. We’re playing the long game here.

I think it is a learning experience unfortunately. My sense is that we got so hung up on getting Durkin either now or after this year that we may have cut off our nose to spite our face.

We would have been much better off hiring a G5 DC with experience than hiring an inexperienced guy from Alabama.

[Really Clark?]

I think it is a learning experience unfortunately. My sense is that we got so hung up on getting Durkin either now or after this year that we may have cut off our nose to spite our face.

We would have been much better off hiring a G5 DC with experience than hiring an inexperienced guy from Alabama.

Yep, Durkin was the guy. Of course the fan base was losing its crap about waiting and worrying about recruiting but we should have moved on as he was leveraging us. He ended up with a lower salary than we were offering too

[CaptainObvious]

Some fans are really hammering Lebby for something that’s not totally his fault. Probably not even 50% his fault if we’re not looking through maroon colored glasses. This is year 0. It doesn’t count. Is it hard? Yeah. I’ve been to every game but one. We’re playing the long game here.

Maybe Lebby shouldn't have been hired. Maybe the Admin is who should be hammered! Why does poor ol Miss State have to always hire coordinators? Is is because G5 HC are at better jobs then State? Is that what the fans that thought Moorhead was a good hire? Or Arnett was the right decision at the time? Or Lebby was a better hire than some sitting G5 or FCS successful HC? Why?

[CaptainObvious]

Why didn't a state hire Bobby Petrino since they love hiring coordinators? Did he turn the HC job at State down for the OC job at Arkansas?

[CaptainObvious]

It?s not really uncommon for first time HCs to have trouble putting staff together. If we show we are behind Lebby and give him the resources to succeed then he will be fine with his next staff

Where is your proof? Weren't State fans not behind Every other coordinator they hired and only Mullen was successful?

[Pancho]

didn't mullen have several DC's and positon coaches over the years?

[DawgFromOxford]

didn't mullen have several DC's and positon coaches over the years?

Seems like there was a period where we went through a new DC every offseason

[Really Clark?]

Seems like there was a period where we went through a new DC every offseason

Torbush, Diaz, Wilson, Wilson / Collins, Collins, Diaz, Sirmon, Grantham.

[Pancho]

sound like lebby has quite a ways to go then. maybe these experts will sit back and allow him to run and develop the program regardless of what his relationship is with the AD.

[DEDawg]

Where is your proof? Weren't State fans not behind Every other coordinator they hired and only Mullen was successful?

Huh? Im talking about first time HCs traditionally having trouble putting staffs together their first years. Not sure what youre referring to, Mullen was never a coordinator for us

[Brobi-wan]

Maybe Lebby shouldn't have been hired. Maybe the Admin is who should be hammered! Why does poor ol Miss State have to always hire coordinators? Is is because G5 HC are at better jobs then State? Is that what the fans that thought Moorhead was a good hire? Or Arnett was the right decision at the time? Or Lebby was a better hire than some sitting G5 or FCS successful HC? Why?

Selmon didn?t hire Arnett, Keenum did. As to why the Uni President is making coaching decisions, your guess is as good as mine. Had it not been for Selmon having the sack to fire Arnett, we might still have him and Barbay calling the shots this year. We hired Leach, a sitting P5 coach, less than 5 years ago. What sitting G5 coach would you want, other than Liberty or Toledo?s? We couldn?t afford Liberty coach and he didn?t seem to want to be here, and Toledo ran roughshod all over us just this year. Florida hired a sitting G5 coach, he?s a sh!tter. Look at how Hugh is doing at Auburn now that he has to pretend to be a deacon instead of speed dialing hookers. It?s not a simple as hiring a sitting coach. Our team would likely look like this with the exception of Leach still being alive. Had we done the right thing and hired Lebby or a real coach the year before last, we would likely not be having this discussion.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Selmon didn?t hire Arnett, Keenum did. As to why the Uni President is making coaching decisions, your guess is as good as mine. Had it not been for Selmon having the sack to fire Arnett, we might still have him and Barbay calling the shots this year. We hired Leach, a sitting P5 coach, less than 5 years ago. What sitting G5 coach would you want, other than Liberty or Toledo?s? We couldn?t afford Liberty coach and he didn?t seem to want to be here, and Toledo ran roughshod all over us just this year. Florida hired a sitting G5 coach, he?s a sh!tter. Look at how Hugh is doing at Auburn now that he has to pretend to be a deacon instead of speed dialing hookers. It?s not a simple as hiring a sitting coach. Our team would likely look like this with the exception of Leach still being alive. Had we done the right thing and hired Lebby or a real coach the year before last, we would likely not be having this discussion.

Also what's so funny, we hired Arnett to keep the recruiting class together. Do you know how many of those guys are still here? Like half have transferred and out of the half that is still here 5-6 play actual snaps and only one or two, Issac Smith and maybe Brice Pollock or Zakari Tillman, would start at another P5 school. Like we made that class out to be amazing and the class Lebby inherited on Nov. 26 and added to until February has more players making an impact than the previous two classes combined.

[Brobi-wan]

Also what's so funny, we hired Arnett to keep the recruiting class together. Do you know how many of those guys are still here? Like half have transferred and out of the half that is still here 5-6 play actual snaps and only one or two, Issac Smith and maybe Brice Pollock or Zakari Tillman, would start at another P5 school. Like we made that class out to be amazing and the class Lebby inherited on Nov. 26 and added to until February has more players making an impact than the previous two classes combined.

Yeah, I didn’t understand that. The class was good for ML and his system. Not for anything we’re doing now. I’m not going to pump sunshine up anyone about where our program is. It’s the toilet. That doesn’t mean we should be burning down Selmon and Lebby who came into a mess and are trying to fix it. Selmon managed to retain Jans and as of right now, baseball is looking at worst, to be as decent as last year. Football is the bell cow and Selmon knows it has ti be fixed. There is no longer a foundation of success at Mississippi State. Lebby and Selmon aren’t just pulling up proverbial flooring and replacing it. They had to bulldoze the whole house and pour the concrete slab again.