Piggies game

[parabrave]

Well this I think is out best chance at a SEC win So I hope we come out blazing.

[Pinto]

40 mins before kick and I can post this

[starkvegasdawg]

Great start.**

[DownwardDawg]

Well this I think is out best chance at a SEC win So I hope we come out blazing.

I don't see a chance. But I hope you're right.

[PMDawg]

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[ZedFedder]

Good grief on that juke.

[MBDawg601]

Well, possibly the worst start. If this is our effort today, we are gonna get beat by 40

[BuckyIsAB****]

Hunter Washington has had more plays like that happen to him than any other player we have ever had.

I respect him because a lesser man would have quit a long time ago

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not a great start, but maybe we got our mistake out of the way early. We looked very tight on that first drive on offense. Fumbled the first snap and then backside pressure causes a fumble.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Van Buren has to take off right there.

[parabrave]

And 51 gets beat again on an edge rush. He has no business being overthere. And just have the DLine fall in the gaps, at least they won't be getting pushed back 10 yards

[BuckyIsAB****]

Last week looks like our last gasp. Our energy is pretty bad

[StarkVegasSteve]

Great blocks on the edge right there and BOOTH FINALLY HIT A HOLE!!!!

[ZedFedder]

Huge play.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Nvm haha

[parabrave]

Maybe our WRs can give our Line some tips on blocking

[StarkVegasSteve]

We are going to have to score 60 to have a chance today.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Idk why we dont just put 8-9 in the box and at least make people throw the ball

[RockyDog]

GD, does Putzler do ANY prep for opponents? They just break off 10+ yards whenever they want

[StarkVegasSteve]

Stop the game and erect a plaque folks, WE GOT A 3RD DOWN STOP!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

The refs and Arkansas stupidity is keeping us in this one so far. Van Buren has not looked sharp at all.

[PMDawg]

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[DawgFromOxford]

4th and 1 and Booth runs up the middle standing straight up. I mean come on man

[Bothrops]

Arkansas is what we hope to look like on the DL and OL by the '26 season.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Arkansas is what we hope to look like on the DL and OL by the '26 season.

Are they THAT good or are we just THAT bad.

[NCDawg]

Pretty obvious Arkansas has a lot more talent than we do, both offensively and defensively.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Does our 17n defense know they are playing defense? Between the 20s they are giving up 23 yards a play? WTF.

[StarkVegasSteve]

For those wondering why we never just sell out to blitz, that is why.

[RockyDog]

Gonna get blown out by bitch tits after playing respectable against the last 3 opponents

[PMDawg]

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[Bothrops]

Are they THAT good or are we just THAT bad.

We're that bad. And won't be worth a shit next year on either side.

[R2Dawg]

Going to get blownout today. Not sure if we have quit or injuries and mental just caught up with us. Got to have a new DC. I know we have holes but still.

[magrooder]

Maybe we don't blitz but 10 guys next time.

[State82]

This shit is awful. Glad I recorded the Redfish Cup Championship from earlier this morning. Much better and enjoyable viewing.

[R2Dawg]

Bad playcalling on both sides of ball to start the game.

[civildawg]

Fire Hutzler

[PMDawg]

.

[R2Dawg]

Everyone is hurt now every play; we have no one else to put on the field.

[BuckyIsAB****]

VB is hurt or something he cant throw

[RockyDog]

Good lord. 3 receivers hurt in 3 plays

[R2Dawg]

Dang good throw by MVB

[Matt3467]

Fire Hutzler

It's not his fault. It's all a talent issue.****

[StarkVegasSteve]

VB is hurt or something he cant throw

When he does not have the deep ball he is not very good. Not a bad thing because he is young. But he does not know how to work through a progression. When you take away the deep ball, he panics and then either forces a throw or short arms it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know Shaud Williams is best friends with Lebby, but his S&C program needs to go. Far too many injuries for only game 8

[Bothrops]

When he does not have the deep ball he is not very good. Not a bad thing because he is young. But he does not know how to work through a progression. When you take away the deep ball, he panics and then either forces a throw or short arms it.

It's not a qb problem, it's an OL problem.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Should have just gone for it. Left hash for a left foot kicker is a miss 75% of the time. And our kickers suck so the percentage is a good bit higher.

[RockyDog]

This is why you don’t jump the gun and anoint Van Buren a 4 year starter. He still has a LONG way to go

[Bothrops]

This is why you don’t jump the gun and anoint Van Buren a 4 year starter. He still has a LONG way to go

We have much much much larger problems than a qb problem.

[Lord McBuckethead]

We have to change directions on defense. They are averaging like 16 yards per play.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is WITHOUT A DOUBT the worst defensive performance of the year. Hutzler needs to be fired at halftime.

They just went 75 yds in 5 PLAYS

[NCDawg]

Arkansas appears to be toying with us. They can beat us as bad as they want to.

[defiantdog]

I'm done giving money. Been donating for 20 years. I want Keenum gone too at this point.

[DawgFromOxford]

I can't wait for this season to be over

[BuckyIsAB****]

Keenum should have been gone when arnett was gone

[ZedFedder]

Ark is averaging 14 yards per pass attempt (not completion) and over 10 yards a run.

[RockyDog]

Is there another fanbase in college sports that blames their school president as much as MSU fans?

[Coursesuper]

Gonna get blown out by a not good team today.

[EdwardDrayton]

This is why I opted for pre-noon drinking. Rules be damned.

[SPMT]

It's not his fault. It's all a talent issue.****

Thought that too?.but this is beyond that. Clean out 90% of the defensive staff, if not 100%

[Lord McBuckethead]

We cannot run against a 6 man box.

[Coursesuper]

Keenum should have been gone when arnett was gone

Oh just 17 right off. Go watch your boy on Fox.

[PGHBulldogBG]

This entire situation falls on the administration for not doing a proper coaching search after Leach died. Not having an AD is just an excuse they used. It was a tragic situation, but just making Arnett the HC put us basically another year if not two behind

[Bothrops]

We don't have anybody that can play on the DL or OL for next season. Do you people realize that? Nobody! This isn't going to be fixed by the portal. Not even close.

[RockyDog]

Oh just 17 right off. Go watch your boy on Fox.

He’s bored because Willie is getting his ass kicked.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Oh just 17 right off. Go watch your boy on Fox.

Hes almost as lazy and terrible as that post haha

[BuckyIsAB****]

He’s bored because Willie is getting his ass kicked.

What did will do to you?

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not gonna take over the thread but its just hilarious that the anti will rogers crowd (still here for some reason) talks about him way more than anyone else ever does

[DawgFromOxford]

I'm convinced Holloway was a stronger runner than Booth

[Matt3467]

I'm convinced Holloway was a stronger runner than Booth

Holloway in Booths body would've been a force

[RockyDog]

What did will do to you?

Shut up and go play with Wyatt

[Coursesuper]

Hes almost as lazy and terrible as that post haha

To say that you are ill informed is saying a lot. But then again you are just here to bitch without knowing shit anyway. Done with you have a nice life.

[BuckyIsAB****]

To say that you are ill informed is saying a lot. But then again you are just here to bitch without knowing shit anyway. Done with you have a nice life.

Im sorry my opinion on a message board hurt you so

[msstate7]

How the F is the ball at the 1 though? The rule is stupid

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why the absolute 17 do you bring in the backup????

[RockyDog]

What a damn joke the whole review process is

[BuckyIsAB****]

Shut up and go play with Wyatt

So?.nothing?

[Matt3467]

Bring in Parson and basically telegraph a run. What in the world.

[msstate7]

The staff has taken a step back today. The inability to execute in short yardage is freaking embarrassing

[BuckyIsAB****]

77 just got absolutely abused

[Lord McBuckethead]

If you put Chris Parson in, you have to let him throw it. 17n A Lebby. You cannot eliminate 10 other players on offense every time he comes in. Just because he gains 4 yards every play against our shitty defense does not mean he can do it against smart defenses.

[ZedFedder]

Terrible. Arkansas is about to put another TD on the board as well. Might as well just root for Oklahoma for the rest of the day.

[R2Dawg]

SEC office just screwed us out of a TD

They didn't even fix the spot.

Something must be done about SEC front office corruption.

[Coursesuper]

What a mule**** we just received there. Thank you SEC.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The staff has taken a step back today. The inability to execute in short yardage is freaking embarrassing

He is selmons friend though that?s all that ever mattered

[DawgFromOxford]

we get a whole play review to come up with the most predictable 4th down play. nice

[PMDawg]

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[BuckyIsAB****]

Terrible. Arkansas is about to put another TD on the board as well. Might as well just root for Oklahoma for the rest of the day.
Selmon is watching them right now probably

[msstate7]

SEC office just screwed us out of a TD

They didn't even fix the spot.

Something must be done about SEC front office corruption.

You can't move the ball up. It's a dumb rule. They can only determine Td or 1st down, but can't move the ball up

[RockyDog]

Just clean house and start over AGAIN. it?s obvious Lebby?s head and heart isn?t in this

[Bothrops]

The staff has taken a step back today. The inability to execute in short yardage is freaking embarrassing

We have no OL or DL. None. It's not even G5

[R2Dawg]

Lebby looks bad today but Ark is outplaying our LOS.

[HoopsDawg]

77 just got absolutely abused

Nah, he was just taking a nap.

[DownwardDawg]

How can SEC refs be so incompetent????
That 4th and goal should have been the ball almost touching the goal line.
Of course it wouldn't have made a difference, but still.....

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lebby looks bad today but Ark is outplaying our LOS.

His play calling today has been south of shit. No flow and really really bad. I mean 2nd and 9 and 3rd and 5 or 6 runs?.just not good.

[msstate7]

We have no OL or DL. None. It's not even G5

They've moved the ball well in sec play, so I'm not gonna excuse crappy short yardage execution/calls. Now the defense is horrible, and I put that more on leach and arnett.

[R2Dawg]

You can't move the ball up. It's a dumb rule. They can only determine Td or 1st down, but can't move the ball up

They used to review the spot but maybe that is NFL?

The spot is where his but was. Refs been screwing us on the ball spots all day

Review should have said TD.

[DownwardDawg]

You can't move the ball up. It's a dumb rule. They can only determine Td or 1st down, but can't move the ball up

I recall spots being challenged all the time. What happened to that???

[msstate7]

They used to review the spot but maybe that is NFL?

The spot is where his but was. Refs been screwing us on the ball spots all day

Review should have said TD.

They were reviewing td or no td, so can't re-spot

[msstate7]

I recall spots being challenged all the time. What happened to that???

It wasn't a challenge. It was a td or no td review

[R2Dawg]

Damn they stole another TD from us.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Traore is an idiot

[DownwardDawg]

2-10

[R2Dawg]

Score should be 24-21

[DownwardDawg]

It wasn't a challenge. It was a td or no td review

I understand that. But I'm also one of those people that believes you should get everything correct. You look at everything if you're reviewing the play.

[Activated Alpha]

How can Lebby pull this shit team out of one of the deepest holes this program has been in?

[Bothrops]

Somebody should punch that old geezer ref in the face for that

[StarkVegasSteve]

These refs are f****** AWFUL. The pylon is an extension of the GD end zone you incompetent f***. Go back to reffing 8 man football.

[memsu06]

Way to go Fing SEC official.

This the same MFer that didn't give it to us the first time?

[msstate7]

I understand that. But I'm also one of those people that believes you should get everything correct. You look at everything if you're reviewing the play.

I agree. That's why I called the rule stupid

[RockyDog]

Worst crew ever

[msstate7]

Touch the pylon with the ball, not your arm. Still think it's a td, but he made it harder to tell

[Bothrops]

How can Lebby pull this shit team out of one of the deepest holes this program has been in?

That's a good question.

[memsu06]

We should throw stuff on the field now and have them reverse it.

[DownwardDawg]

17'n idiot. Getting blown out and you celebrate a TD like it's your first ever.

[msstate7]

This penalty might help is we take 2 mins to score

[somebodyshotmypaw]

How dumb do you have to be to throw the ball into the stands

[DawgFromOxford]

If I'm traore I'm bulldozing a ref the next time I'm in. They've cost him 2 TDs by bad on the field calls

[Bothrops]

That ref needs to be kneecapped

[BuckyIsAB****]

They probably just took 2 tds from us

[Dawgology]

This is some really bad officiating

[vindastra]

Any player that celebrates like that does not have anything between the ears. Period.

[parabrave]

Fux you SEC refs/ That 2 bad calls you have made.

[R2Dawg]

Refs 14 MSU 0

[msstate7]

MVB is gonna be great. That throw that wasn't complete was still a great throw... he threw to a covered guy that only his guy could get it.

[DownwardDawg]

How dumb do you have to be to throw the ball into the stands

Dumb as a rock.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Game should be 24-21 at half but instead it will probably be 31-7 and they get the ball

[Matt3467]

so a missed short fg and two uncalled tds. Could be 24-24. Really sucks.

[LC Dawg]

How can Lebby pull this shit team out of one of the deepest holes this program has been in?

He can start by coaching better.

[EdwardDrayton]

We should throw stuff on the field now and have them reverse it.

Gold

[R2Dawg]

Any player that celebrates like that does not have anything between the ears. Period.

Shouldn't have done it but I understand the frustration. He just scored his first TD on a frustrating year.

[NCDawg]

We've had some bad OL over the years, but I'm not sure we've ever had one this bad.

[msstate7]

That ref needs to be kneecapped

2 just really brutal calls by him. The first one's spot was unbelievably bad

[R2Dawg]

so a missed short fg and two uncalled tds. Could be 24-24. Really sucks.

Yeah you are correct.

SEC office has decided to sacrifice us this year for rest of league. The corruption is deep.

[Bothrops]

MVB is gonna be great. That throw that wasn't complete was still a great throw... he threw to a covered guy that only his guy could get it.

Not sure he can be great here though. The chances of us having a serviceable oline next year is pretty low.

[LC Dawg]

If I'm traore I'm bulldozing a ref the next time I'm in. They've cost him 2 TDs by bad on the field calls

If I'm Lebby he won't have an opportunity to do that because he won't see the field for the rest of the game.

[msstate7]

so a missed short fg and two uncalled tds. Could be 24-24. Really sucks.

Probably hard to wanna count both. If we got first one, they wouldn't have been pinned deep having to punt

[StarkVegasSteve]

11.1 yds PER PLAY.

[tcdog70]

This team is hard to watch. Stupid players and Play calling

[DawgFromOxford]

If I'm Lebby he won't have an opportunity to do that because he won't see the field for the rest of the game.

Well that's not going to happen. Traore has been trash and yet he keeps seeing the field

[R2Dawg]

We've had some bad OL over the years, but I'm not sure we've ever had one this bad.

We must get LOS guys.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Guys. They have ran 23 plays and they have 24 points

[BuckyIsAB****]

And Lebby is going to take all 3 timeouts into the half

[msstate7]

I can't watch us play defense anymore

[NCDawg]

Lot of difference in how much time the Arkansas QB has to throw compared to ours.

[parabrave]

I know we are missing 3 DL but dam these guts have no business being in a PS program.

[RockyDog]

Just have Putzler pack his office during the 2nd half

[ZedFedder]

Brylan Lanier is TERRRRRIBLE

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just have Putzler pack his office during the 2nd half

Yea he needs to be done. This is embarrassing.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We need to hit the portal hard on defense. This is just awful and literally every game we just can’t stop anyone.

[Lord McBuckethead]

How the F is the ball at the 1 though? The rule is stupid

Yep. Went out so close to a TD that it takes 10 minutes to review, then out at the one.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Literally cannot stop anyone. Thanks d coordinator.

[BuckyIsAB****]

They have quit on Lebby

[RockyDog]

Just not even fundamentally sound. But i guess that happens when you hire a special teamer as your DC

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Hutzler is calling plays in the second half then I will seriously question whether Lebby has a clue how to run a program. This is flat out embarrassing.

[Bothrops]

We aren't going bowling anytime in the foreseeable future folks.

[DawgFromOxford]

How do we look like we are making progress against 3 top 25 teams and then look like complete dog **** against another bottom barrel SEC team? Make it make sense

[Matt3467]

I think one of the most annoying things being a State fan the last few years is how hyped up opposing QBs get during our games. Our defense is so bad we make every QB look good.

[ZedFedder]

Hutzler may have to get fired today.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If Hutzler is calling plays in the second half then I will seriously question whether Lebby has a clue how to run a program. This is flat out embarrassing.

Hes selmons friend through

[Matt3467]

58% passer on the year completing 82% this game. We need the skin of a coach before this game is over.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We certainly don’t have the players to compete in the SEC. Next year will tell me more about the coaching staff. Kennedy and Hutz though both need to figure out their units

[Bothrops]

How do we look like we are making progress against 3 top 25 teams and then look like complete dog **** against another bottom barrel SEC team? Make it make sense

We have terrible players on the LOS and they just quit.

[Bothrops]

We certainly don’t have the players to compete in the SEC. Next year will tell me more about the coaching staff. Kennedy and Hutz though both need to figure out their units

Next year will be just like this year.

[tcdog70]

How do we look like we are making progress against 3 top 25 teams and then look like complete dog **** against another bottom barrel SEC team? Make it make sense

Well a missed fg. A fumble in the red zone and two TDs they don?t give us.

[Dawgology]

Next year will be just like this year.

Next few years will be like this. Especially with current recruiting. I expect this is the end of the program for the foreseeable future.

[RockyDog]

Well a missed fg. A fumble in the red zone and two TDs they don?t give us.

We were looking ahead to UMass and took bitch tit’s team for granted.

[LC Dawg]

I'm at the game and this is as low as it has been in decades. Arkansas(4-3) fans are all over the stands and dancing to YMCA over our PA. They are basically making it their stadium. Croom era was filled with a lot of apathy because it was so bad after the end of Jackie but I am sitting here pissed at how we let us get here so fast.

[Bothrops]

Next few years will be like this. Especially with current recruiting. I expect this is the end of the program for the foreseeable future.

You may be right.

[Brobi-wan]

I would put Traore back on the first plane to the UK. Holy sh!t

[Bothrops]

I would put Traore back on the first plane to the UK. Holy sh!t

I'd rather see somebody deck the white cap.

[RockyDog]

I would put Traore back on the first plane to the UK. Holy sh!t

Why? We wouldn’t have scored from the 1 anyway. At least he’s playing with effort and scored 2 TDs

[Coursesuper]

I'm at the game and this is as low as it has been in decades. Arkansas(4-3) fans are all over the stands and dancing to YMCA over our PA. They are basically making it their stadium. Croom era was filled with a lot of apathy because it was so bad after the end of Jackie but I am sitting here pissed at how we let us get here so fast.

It didn’t happen fast if you take a long look at it.

[Bothrops]

I'm at the game and this is as low as it has been in decades. Arkansas(4-3) fans are all over the stands and dancing to YMCA over our PA. They are basically making it their stadium. Croom era was filled with a lot of apathy because it was so bad after the end of Jackie but I am sitting here pissed at how we let us get here so fast.

Even if we were good, I doubt we could fill the stadium today. Times have changed and we aren't a proud fanbase. Bulldog football existed, though only briefly.

[RockyDog]

Refs just took away a TD from scUM at the one yard line. But in ours it was too questionable. Siiiiigh

But they just give it to fatass Piggies and have no problem punching it in

[Dawgology]

It didn’t happen fast if you take a long look at it.

Our “boosters” have been apathetic for a while. Started with the end of the Mullen tenure. I expect State will not make the 60 team cut when realignment happens in a few years.

[DawgFromOxford]

You know its bad when the whole student section clears out during a SEC game

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Turner and Hutzler are still employed by 8 PM we will have our answer of how serious our administration is.

[RockyDog]

So glad Putzler was able to catch a nap at halftime

[BuckyIsAB****]

If Turner and Hutzler are still employed by 8 PM we will have our answer of how serious our administration is.

Well they are going to be

[RockyDog]

Our “boosters” have been apathetic for a while. Started with the end of the Mullen tenure. I expect State will not make the 60 team cut when realignment happens in a few years.

Not gonna happen

[BuckyIsAB****]

Fellas I hate to tell yall but a legit staff does not start 1-7. We would have beat ASU and Toledo. Lebby was done after Toledo. I had my doubts at halftime of ASU but Toledo was like the Florida game was to Moorhead

[Bothrops]

Our “boosters” have been apathetic for a while. Started with the end of the Mullen tenure. I expect State will not make the 60 team cut when realignment happens in a few years.

Our boosters are more interested in deer season than football season. I suspect it has always been that way.

[RockyDog]

Well they are going to be

Willie just lead a beautiful drive resulting in a FG to get them within 14. Impressive!!

[BuckyIsAB****]

Willie just lead a beautiful drive resulting in a FG to get them within 14. Impressive!!

Hes too busy ruining your life

[LC Dawg]

For all you people bitching about our 3rd down defense Arkansas is 0-4 on 3rd down. So Hutzler got the message.*******

[R2Dawg]

It didn?t happen fast if you take a long look at it.

Yep this has been happening for 6 years.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Willie just lead a beautiful drive resulting in a FG to get them within 14. Impressive!!

That pick 6 was a thing of beauty.

[StarkVegasSteve]

For all you people bitching about our 3rd down defense Arkansas is 0-4 on 3rd down. So Hutzler got the message.*******

I am shocked they have had 4 3rd downs.

[R2Dawg]

The last 3 games took the life out of this team.

[StarkVegasSteve]

They literally have guys running WIDE ASS OPEN.

[DawgFromOxford]

Oh look Traore doesn't know how to block for the thousandth time this season

[RockyDog]

Good to see Lebby changed into the black top to lament the death of our football program.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The last 3 games took the life out of this team.

Last week took the life out of us. I really think our guys thought they could win. You could see it in the postgame how dejected they were. I wanted to believe today would be another improvement but I had a bad feeling it had a chance to be bad.

[RockyDog]

Hes too busy ruining your life

Not really. Go jerk Wyatt while yall celebrate Willie ruining Washington’s season

[R2Dawg]

Holding and no call.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Legit laughable. Goes backwards 20 yds and find another wide open guy.

[Mjoelner34]

I'm at the game and this is as low as it has been in decades. Arkansas(4-3) fans are all over the stands and dancing to YMCA over our PA. They are basically making it their stadium. Croom era was filled with a lot of apathy because it was so bad after the end of Jackie but I am sitting here pissed at how we let us get here so fast.

There are more Arkansas fans in the MSU faculty section than there are in the ticket sections allotted to Arkansas.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not really. Go jerk Wyatt while yall celebrate Willie ruining Washington’s season

Dude you?re the one constantly bringing him up you troll

[StarkVegasSteve]

WIDE. ASS. OPEN. Pt. 4

[R2Dawg]

2-10 or 1-11 coming. The finish is going to be ugly. Lebby coaching for his career next year.

[Coursesuper]

Yep this has been happening for 6 years.

Exactly

[LC Dawg]

Last week took the life out of us. I really think our guys thought they could win. You could see it in the postgame how dejected they were. I wanted to believe today would be another improvement but I had a bad feeling it had a chance to be bad.

You could definitely see it on the players after the game last week. I was hoping we could rebound knowing we were playing a lesser opponent than the last 3 but I think the start to this game just did us in.

ETA: Not just the start but also the ****ing by the refs.

[StarkVegasSteve]

2-10 or 1-11 coming. The finish is going to be ugly. Lebby coaching for his career next year.

I still think he will get 3 years but next year is probably going to be more of the same. I mean no coach was going to come in here and turn it around in a year after Leach, Emerick, Dudek, and Arnett’s recruiting royally 17d us but the juice is gone in the program and I really do not know what will bring it back.

[Coursesuper]

2-10 or 1-11 coming. The finish is going to be ugly. Lebby coaching for his career next year.

Nope, that’s how we got where we are now. He gets a minimum of three if not 4 to un17 this mess left by the worst AD ever.

[EdwardDrayton]

Our boosters are more interested in deer season than football season. I suspect it has always been that way.

Hunting always has been more entertaining than our football program.

[civildawg]

I'm officially off the Lebby train. This is an inexcusable game from a coaching staff. You HAVE to fire Hutzler tomorrow.

[EdwardDrayton]

Nope, that’s how we got where we are now. He gets a minimum of three if not 4 to un17 this mess left by the worst AD ever.

He will get three maybe but definitely not four.

[R2Dawg]

Get ready they bout to call the TD back

[RockyDog]

Nope, that’s how we got where we are now. He gets a minimum of three if not 4 to un17 this mess left by the worst AD ever.

Gotta give Leach and Arnept’s lazy recruiting a big round of applause.

And the ONLY position beside QB that Leach cared about recruiting, we don’t have a single WR of his contributing now. Mosley showed out for 2 games and then decided to take the rest of the season off.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Blown away they are not reviewing this one.

Edit: Maybe I spoke too soon.

[MrCoachKlein]

Can we bring back Sirmon*

[R2Dawg]

They want to call this back so bad.

Coleman is a weapon.

[ScoobaDawg]

Finally a finish . We'll held your horses ...reviewing ..

[EdwardDrayton]

2-10 or 1-11 coming. The finish is going to be ugly. Lebby coaching for his career next year.

Yeah the 5-7 and 4-8 folks just didn't want to see clearly.

[ScoobaDawg]

They are about to f*ck us . Or maybe not since we are down so much now

[R2Dawg]

1 for 3 on reviews sucks.

[Coursesuper]

Gotta give Leach and Arnept’s lazy recruiting a big round of applause.

And the ONLY position beside QB that Leach cared about recruiting, we don’t have a single WR of his contributing now. Mosley showed out for 2 games and then decided to take the rest of the season off.

Yep

[StarkVegasSteve]

After taking 14 pts off the board I guess they felt bad for us.

[Matt3467]

I still think he will get 3 years but next year is probably going to be more of the same. I mean no coach was going to come in here and turn it around in a year after Leach, Emerick, Dudek, and Arnett’s recruiting royally 17d us but the juice is gone in the program and I really do not know what will bring it back.

I don't understand the knock on recruiting during Leach. We recruited how we've averaged recruiting wise since Dan. Depending on where you look we pulled classes in the mid 20s. Look at his last class in '22 and see how many of his recruits stayed. I didn't count but more than half of that class is playing somewhere else right now. The portal and us being Miss St has hurt us more than Leach's recruiting imo.

[DawgFromOxford]

Couldn?t do it any more and turned it off. You can say whatever you want about the talent on D. The gap isn?t so large that you get blown out at home against Toledo and Arkansas. Hutlzer and everyone on that side of the ball has to go

[MrCoachKlein]

2-10 or 1-11 coming. The finish is going to be ugly. Lebby coaching for his career next year.

I don't get this. If Lebby had the D that drug ML to most of his wins we'd be 500

[Turfdawg67]

Exactly

Lol... y'all will be blaming Leach for the next decade. It's the NIL error... go buy you a team like all the other downtrodden programs are doing. Remember when Leach won 9 games just two years ago? So sorry he wasn't recruiting for future shitty MSU coaches.

[R2Dawg]

Gotta give Leach and Arnept’s lazy recruiting a big round of applause.

And the ONLY position beside QB that Leach cared about recruiting, we don’t have a single WR of his contributing now. Mosley showed out for 2 games and then decided to take the rest of the season off.
It starts with getting the best players In Miss.

[Bothrops]

Fellas I hate to tell yall but a legit staff does not start 1-7. We would have beat ASU and Toledo. Lebby was done after Toledo. I had my doubts at halftime of ASU but Toledo was like the Florida game was to Moorhead

We didn't have the money to get a real DC, otherwise he'd be here. Doesn't mean wed be much better right now. We went cheap on the DL and paid heavily for it. OL is a coin flip unless you spend 10 or more million on to get one.

[R2Dawg]

Throw in 17 pts and we are in this game. Amazing how refs can affect a game.

[Matt3467]

Lol... y'all will be blaming Leach for the next decade. It's the NIL error... go buy you a team like all the other downtrodden programs are doing. Remember when Leach won 9 games just two years ago? So sorry he wasn't recruiting for future shitty MSU coaches.

yes

[R2Dawg]

Boy refs look for everything when we do something.

[R2Dawg]

Lol... y'all will be blaming Leach for the next decade. It's the NIL error... go buy you a team like all the other downtrodden programs are doing. Remember when Leach won 9 games just two years ago? So sorry he wasn't recruiting for future shitty MSU coaches.

Leach's poor recruiting is fact; like it or not. NIL really didn't hit Leach.

[R2Dawg]

Its a tie game if not for refs and missed FG.

[Bothrops]

What no flags? Where the ******* review?

[Matt3467]

Leach's poor recruiting is fact; like it or not. NIL really didn't hit Leach.

What fact? According to rankings he's recruited right where we've always averaged. The issue is almost every one of those recruits that signed here are no longer here.

[Coursesuper]

Lol... y'all will be blaming Leach for the next decade. It's the NIL error... go buy you a team like all the other downtrodden programs are doing. Remember when Leach won 9 games just two years ago? So sorry he wasn't recruiting for future shitty MSU coaches.

Reach much? The guy never bought into nil, the AD stuck his head in the sand on it. Last time I checked all recruits are for the future are they not? And god damn we have shit load of football players out there that guy recruited don’t we? He left the shelves stocked full of defenders.

[Mjoelner34]

What fact? According to rankings he's recruited right where we've always averaged. The issue is almost every one of those recruits that signed here are no longer here.

The correct answer is Leach's offensive recruiting was poor for a non air raid system. You can blame him for the D if you want to but he didn't give a damn about the D. That's all on Arnept.

[StateDawg44]

Throw in 17 pts and we are in this game. Amazing how refs can affect a game.

So 3 possessions?! Lolz we aren?t even close to being in this game.

[Turfdawg67]

Thanks for concurring exactly what I just said.

[parabrave]

Have class Buckeyes. Throwing WBs at Nebraska/

[Mjoelner34]

Really doesn't matter with the score but can kickers move before the snap? Their kicker started his motion when our D line shifted then went back into position.

Also, did yall notice the rocket surgeon from UPIG signaling 1st down on 3rd and goal when the guy got tackled at the 10?

[Turfdawg67]

Reach much? The guy never bought into nil, the AD stuck his head in the sand on it. Last time I checked all recruits are for the future are they not? And god damn we have shit load of football players out there that guy recruited don’t we? He left the shelves stocked full of defenders.

And you talk about everyone's IQ on here. Lolz. He left Arnett with D recruiting. He won 9 games with his recruiting and probably wins 8-9 games last year. But C34 doesn't like him so you can't either, we all get it.

[msstate7]

MVB is a stud. We need to lock him up, and start building for 2026.

[HoopsDawg]

MVB is a stud. We need to lock him up, and start building for 2026.

Coleman is maybe a top 5 WR in school history.

[HoopsDawg]

Looked like a TD

[Matt3467]

And they're going to take away another TD lol

[R2Dawg]

What fact? According to rankings he's recruited right where we've always averaged. The issue is almost every one of those recruits that signed here are no longer here.

Facts are on the field. Rankings don't mean crap. We got bad defensive players, and OL. That is fact. You gonna dispute our OL and D was not bad in year 4 and 5?

[StarkVegasSteve]

And they're going to take away another TD lol

Will not even review it.

[R2Dawg]

Looked like a TD

I thought he broke plane before the fumble. Ask yourself the question if any of those plays are UGA or Bama, are they a TD or not?

[Coursesuper]

And you talk about everyone's IQ on here. Lolz. He left Arnett with D recruiting. He won 9 games with his recruiting and probably wins 8-9 games last year. But C34 doesn't like him so you can't either, we all get it.

God damn Nostradamus,you can put some spin on it. There were a boatload of Moorhead recruits on that team including the QB. But hey don’t let facts get in the way of facts.

[Matt3467]

Facts are on the field. Rankings don't mean crap. We got bad defensive players, and OL. That is fact. You gonna dispute our OL and D was not bad in year 4 and 5?

Many of those OL that signed are playing elsewhere. Is that Leach's fault?

[R2Dawg]

God damn Nostradamus,you can put some spin on it. There were a boatload of Moorhead recruits on that team including the QB. But hey don’t let facts get in the way of facts.

Yep recruiting really shows up in year 3-4 which is what we seeing now. Yep recruiting includes transfer portal.

[HoopsDawg]

Keep Lebby and Bumphis. Fire everyone else.

[State82]

Exactly how many ways exist for a team to 17up? This is beyond comedy.