I might need to be a Vandy fan...

[Matt3467]

They're closing in on doing something we haven't been able to do since Croom. They look so good this year even in their losses. If Vandy can improve like this why can't we?

[DesotoDog1967]

Glad State isn't playing Vandy this year

[LC Dawg]

Hiring a head coach in the SEC without any SEC experience is a risky move. I just don't think they can understand that you have to be prepared every week when you play an SEC opponent. Brian Kelly is also struggling with that.

[Activated Alpha]

Vandy would absolutely boat race us if we played them this year

[Matt3467]

Vandy is doing what a team with a horrible defense needs to be doing and thats controlling the time of possession. We stayed in the TX game not because our defense was making big plays (TX gained 520 yards on us). It was because we controlled the ball. Whatever we need to do to keep our defense off the field we need to do it.

[DownwardDawg]

Vandy QB is a beast.

[LC Dawg]

This has got to be the biggest upset in the SEC in a long, long time.

[RockyDog]

Bama #13 is a bitch. Stop somebody and you won’t have to act like that, asshole

[Bdawg]

Congrats Clark Lee. Takes time to try to build something. They look pretty solid this year

[mparkerfd20]

Wow they did it.

[Brobi-wan]

What an insane day.

[TrapGame]

Vandy deserves a win like this.

Somebody check on Tusk.

[Brobi-wan]

Clark talks like he actually likes Vandy

[Bdawg]

Vandy deserves a win like this.

Somebody check on Tusk.

Ha. Tusk deeeeeep into his product!!!

[Brobi-wan]

The idea that Texas might win a national title in their first year in the conference is CRAZY.

[Matt3467]

Wow that was an awesome game. Diego Pavia is a stud. Feels so good seeing Bama lose. *Controversial take warning* I'd rather see Bama lose than OM. I can't stand that team.

[DesotoDog1967]

Clark talks like he actually likes Vandy

Florida will poach him

[TrapGame]

Clark Lea just explained about getting everyone on the same page with NIL and recruiting at Vandy. They were 18 months behind everyone else.

This gives me more hope about Lebby and Selmon revitalizing the program.

[Brobi-wan]

Clark Lea just explained about getting everyone on the same page with NIL and recruiting at Vandy. They were 18 months behind everyone else.

This gives me more hope about Lebby and Selmon revitalizing the program.

NIL was a problem for us. I think recent lack of stability was a bigger one. We would probably be talking a different talk if Leach were still alive. That being said, we’ll probably be better off long term with Lebby getting here now vs. later. Not saying I’m glad Leach is gone by any means.

[Todd4State]

Clark Lea just explained about getting everyone on the same page with NIL and recruiting at Vandy. They were 18 months behind everyone else.

This gives me more hope about Lebby and Selmon revitalizing the program.

It's just a matter of time. And it's not surprised that we were behind in NIL given our general football culture where we deemphasized recruiting across multiple staffs.

[Todd4State]

Kaelen DeBoer is NOT Nick Saban.

And I'll say this- I think NIL and portal may have actually leveled the playing field in the SEC to a degree.

How many times during the Dan Mullen era did we have a pretty good team but we had like one unit that was really really bad and the Alabama's and LSU's would just target that position group and kill it? If we had the portal and NIL we could have filled those gaps better.

[Tbonewannabe]

Jerry Kill was Vandy's biggest pick up.

[Ranchdawg]

I can not wait to see the next Bama redneck in his 25yr old beat up pickup truck with one of those huge Bama “A” stickers across the back windshield. You all know you have seen at least one of what I described.

Congratulations Vandy! I am jealous.

[DEDawg]

Kaelen DeBoer is NOT Nick Saban.

And I'll say this- I think NIL and portal may have actually leveled the playing field in the SEC to a degree.

How many times during the Dan Mullen era did we have a pretty good team but we had like one unit that was really really bad and the Alabama's and LSU's would just target that position group and kill it? If we had the portal and NIL we could have filled those gaps better.

It?s annoying our fans act like NIL is going to kill state. It?s going to kill small programs. Were going to lose some to even bigger fish, but mostly were going to be the one doing the poaching and be fine if we play the game and stop acting like losers. Thank god for Charlie and Selmon

[memsu06]

I can not wait to see the next Bama redneck in his 25yr old beat up pickup truck with one of those huge Bama ?A? stickers across the back windshield. You all know you have seen at least one of what I described.

Congratulations Vandy! I am jealous.

I live in AL I know exactly what you mean. I have a photo I took in Jasper, AL traveling for work. I was at a red light behind 2 obvious Bama fans trying to out Bama each other with all the stickers on their trucks.

[RocketDawg]

I can not wait to see the next Bama redneck in his 25yr old beat up pickup truck with one of those huge Bama “A” stickers across the back windshield. You all know you have seen at least one of what I described.

Congratulations Vandy! I am jealous.

I saw a couple of cars driving around last week with 4 Bama flags flying. I'll bet they just ran out and took them off.

[Brobi-wan]

I live in AL I know exactly what you mean. I have a photo I took in Jasper, AL traveling for work. I was at a red light behind 2 obvious Bama fans trying to out Bama each other with all the stickers on their trucks.

My girlfriend is from Jasper. They’re different about Bama in that little town.

[BHildreth3]

Jerry Kill was Vandy's biggest pick up.

Tim Beck their OC was a great hire, from UNLV and brought that dude at QB

[basedog]

Clark is a Vandy Graduate. The Bama wins gives him stability for more years now.

[R2Dawg]

It?s annoying our fans act like NIL is going to kill state. It?s going to kill small programs. Were going to lose some to even bigger fish, but mostly were going to be the one doing the poaching and be fine if we play the game and stop acting like losers. Thank god for Charlie and Selmon

Yeah and the we ain't got the talent BS. Talent is only maybe 1/3 of the formula. NIL helps with that but if you spend NIL on the wrong players, it don't matter.

Anyone think Vandy has more talent or NIL than Bama?

MSU can compete and we will after NIL and portal once we get the right players and coaches. Yep talent, coaching, and attitude (culture) are the winning formula. NIL can actually hurt attitude and culture if it is not managed right.

[Todd4State]

Yeah and the we ain't got the talent BS. Talent is only maybe 1/3 of the formula. NIL helps with that but if you spend NIL on the wrong players, it don't matter.

Anyone think Vandy has more talent or NIL than Bama?

MSU can compete and we will after NIL and portal once we get the right players and coaches. Yep talent, coaching, and attitude (culture) are the winning formula. NIL can actually hurt attitude and culture if it is not managed right.

You still have to have a good core of high school players that have come up in the program to succeed IMO. I don't think anyone is going to portal and NIL a National Championship where more the majority of the players came from other programs.

[Offshore Dawg]

Vandy deserves a win like this.

Somebody check on Tusk.

Tusk will be back when he has something to gloat about. Unless his stil blew up, or someone trashed his meth lab.

[Pancho]

He's already camped out behind Deboers house

[TheLostDawg]

Yeah and the we ain't got the talent BS. Talent is only maybe 1/3 of the formula. NIL helps with that but if you spend NIL on the wrong players, it don't matter.

Anyone think Vandy has more talent or NIL than Bama?

MSU can compete and we will after NIL and portal once we get the right players and coaches. Yep talent, coaching, and attitude (culture) are the winning formula. NIL can actually hurt attitude and culture if it is not managed right.

If we could tackle someone that would help

[TUSK]

Tusk will be back when he has something to gloat about. Unless his stil blew up, or someone trashed his meth lab.

Sheeeeeeit.... Bidness is a boomin' in north Pickens Co!!!!

[Turfdawg67]

Any SEC team can beat another SEC team on any given day... except MSU. Sad.

[parabrave]

Sheeeeeeit.... Bidness is a boomin' in north Pickens Co!!!!

Thought you would be heading down 82 with a load of bricks instead of shine and smack tonight/

[Matt3467]

Any SEC team can beat another SEC team on any given day... except MSU. Sad.

This is true. Over the years I've always felt we could beat anyone except Bama. Whenever that game rolled around it always felt like an automatic loss no matter how well we were playing. Even in 2014 I wasn't optimistic about that game.

[Apoplectic]

Kaelen DeBoer is NOT Nick Saban.

And I'll say this- I think NIL and portal may have actually leveled the playing field in the SEC to a degree.

How many times during the Dan Mullen era did we have a pretty good team but we had like one unit that was really really bad and the Alabama's and LSU's would just target that position group and kill it? If we had the portal and NIL we could have filled those gaps better.

level playing field is exactly the reason saban quit. like nfl the best coaches succeed. we could have taken some of those bama teams to a NC

[parabrave]

They're closing in on doing something we haven't been able to do since Croom. They look so good this year even in their losses. If Vandy can improve like this why can't we?

Well of you can be am obnoxious whistler than you quality. Screw them and that crappy basketball court and their crappy fans.

[ScooterDog]

Another reason Vandy won is because Bama didn?t have their usual Alabama referees to swing the game for them. This was one of the most fairly refereed Bama games I?ve seen in a long time. Not completely fair, but a big improvement over their usual crap.

[TUSK]

Gawd, I hope this thread lives Fo Evah...

3424

[DownwardDawg]

level playing field is exactly the reason saban quit. like nfl the best coaches succeed. we could have taken some of those bama teams to a NC

Or maybe he was 70 something years old and owns Ferrari and Music city Mercedes in Nashville. That might have had a little impact on his retiring.

[bulldawg28]

Another reason Vandy won is because Bama didn?t have their usual Alabama referees to swing the game for them. This was one of the most fairly refereed Bama games I?ve seen in a long time. Not completely fair, but a big improvement over their usual crap.

This is true. Saban ran the SEC officiating.

[TUSK]

This is true. Saban ran the SEC officiating.

I think that goes without sayin', 28... there's no way we'd take a chance and rely soley on superior talent, facilities, fan support, tradition, finances, coaching, and carpal tunnel syndrome from typin' all this shit...

Anchor Down.!!!!!

[Todd4State]

Or maybe he was 70 something years old and owns Ferrari and Music city Mercedes in Nashville. That might have had a little impact on his retiring.

He was pretty open about not liking the direction that college football was going in.

Number 13 for Alabama kicking the ball at the end of the game tells me that Alabama is going to miss Saban. There is no way in hell he loses that game and if he did 13 would be walking back to Tuscaloosa if he behaved like that.

[bulldawg28]

I think that goes without sayin', 28... there's no way we'd take a chance and rely soley on superior talent, facilities, fan support, tradition, finances, coaching, and carpal tunnel syndrome from typin' all this shit...

Anchor Down.!!!!!

Or just let the games play out without obvious Bama bios with calls. Either way you lost to Vandy with all those advantages.

[TUSK]

you lost to Vandy with all those advantages.

Straight Facts... It happens... even in Dynasty v42.0

[PGHBulldogBG]

Vandy has a secret weapon Jerry Kill. He is probably one of the most underrated coaches in football and he still wins big with all his health issues

[DownwardDawg]

He was pretty open about not liking the direction that college football was going in.

Number 13 for Alabama kicking the ball at the end of the game tells me that Alabama is going to miss Saban. There is no way in hell he loses that game and if he did 13 would be walking back to Tuscaloosa if he behaved like that.

I agree. It's pretty obvious already that they miss Saban. That last paragraph is 100% spot on!!

[R2Dawg]

I think that goes without sayin', 28... there's no way we'd take a chance and rely soley on superior talent, facilities, fan support, tradition, finances, coaching, and carpal tunnel syndrome from typin' all this shit...

Anchor Down.!!!!!

Truth Tusk. Bama left no stone unturned and if the other stuff wasn't getting it done, work the ref angle. Happened all the time. 17 State wins without ref hep, not to mention many others by other teams. The Saban effect is more than X&Os and "the process".

[R2Dawg]

I saw a couple of cars driving around last week with 4 Bama flags flying. I'll bet they just ran out and took them off.

Nah, those people run the window flags year round. It is embarrassing.

[parabrave]

So TUSK how many bricks were thrown through Deboers window??

[TUSK]

So TUSK how many bricks were thrown through Deboers window??

No reports of any brick chunkin'.... yet...

'Cept from SEC Shorts:

Not bad.


https://youtu.be/dSHNutfUHSw

[Apoplectic]

Or just let the games play out without obvious Bama bios with calls. Either way you lost to Vandy with all those advantages.

saban coached to the edge of the rules and forced refs to have the balls to make the calls - see frequent PI at texas. if opposing coach was a beta like mullen and let it slide then refs let it go

[bulldawg28]

saban coached to the edge of the rules and forced refs to have the balls to make the calls - see frequent PI at texas. if opposing coach was a beta like mullen and let it slide then refs let it go

There were too many plays where Bama got favorable calls. Negating TD's due to holdings, etc. You can't name 5 times Bama was called for targeting in an the years of the rule. You could also notice whenever Bama played outside of the SEC officiating they had higher than normal penalties against them.

[TUSK]

...whenever Bama played outside of the SEC officiating they had higher than normal penalties against them.

Please, do tell...














(ETA: NB4 "It's not how many, it's the timing....")

[parabrave]

There were too many plays where Bama got favorable calls. Negating TD's due to holdings, etc. You can't name 5 times Bama was called for targeting in an the years of the rule. You could also notice whenever Bama played outside of the SEC officiating they had higher than normal penalties against them.

Remember when Ridley, I think, ran out of bounds the ref marked it and caught the winning TD against us.

[TUSK]

Remember when Ridley, I think, ran out of bounds the ref marked it and caught the winning TD against us.

Devonta Smith scored on the next play IIRC, but your point stands as it was a huge 3rd down conversion to keep the drive alive...

eta: I could be wrong...

Ahhhhh, I was thinking of the game winning score... the OOB play was early in the game... my bust.

[parabrave]

Devonta Smith scored on the next play IIRC, but your point stands as it was a huge 3rd down conversion to keep the drive alive...

eta: I could be wrong...

Ahhhhh, I was thinking of the game winning score... the OOB play was early in the game... my bust.

I wanna say this was merls last year,

[bulldawg28]

Remember when Ridley, I think, ran out of bounds the ref marked it and caught the winning TD against us.

It was unreal playing against them and the assistance given.

[TheLostDawg]

It was unreal playing against them and the assistance given.

What about the phantom pass interference call

[parabrave]

What about the phantom pass interference call

Or the offsides call when we scored the go ahead TD in Tuscaloosa. We were at the 3 and their LB was clearly barking our signals. I think Plumb was our QB. Only 2 times I remember when the officating was fair was in 92 at home they won 14-7 in what was the best game win or lose I saw then Scott Field and 2007. Was waiting for a flag when AJ ran that Int back/

[BrunswickDawg]

Or the offsides call when we scored the go ahead TD in Tuscaloosa. We were at the 3 and their LB was clearly barking our signals. I think Plumb was our QB. Only 2 times I remember when the officating was fair was in 92 at home they won 14-7 in what was the best game win or lose I saw then Scott Field and 2007. Was waiting for a flag when AJ ran that Int back/

Oh no - '92 was not fair. Not one bit. And that game was not 14-7, it was Bama 30-21. We took at 3rd quarter lead 21-20 after being down 20-3 in the first half. After getting the lead, we made some mistakes that cost the game - but in typical Bama Ref fashion the OL was allowed to do everything short of murder to help get the lead back. I still need a bourbon when I think about that lost opportunity.

I think you are thinking of '91 in T-Town where we lost 13-7.

[parabrave]

Oh no - '92 was not fair. Not one bit. And that game was not 14-7, it was Bama 30-21. We took at 3rd quarter lead 21-20 after being down 20-3 in the first half. After getting the lead, we made some mistakes that cost the game - but in typical Bama Ref fashion the OL was allowed to do everything short of murder to help get the lead back. I still need a bourbon when I think about that lost opportunity.

I think you are thinking of '91 in T-Town where we lost 13-7.



Nope it was the year they won it all. Ir might have been 14-7 at half. Was pissing in the trough at halftime and all the Bama fans were talking like they were about to get beat. The worst called game was when I think Relf was the QB and we scored 2 TDs that should've put us up 14 in the 1st QTR but were called back because of penalties, that no one saw or even noticed, and then they proceeded to beat the crap out of us, maybe 2009.

[BrunswickDawg]

Nope it was the year they won it all. Ir might have been 14-7 at half. Was pissing in the trough at halftime and all the Bama fans were talking like they were about to get beat. The worst called game was when I think Relf was the QB and we scored 2 TDs that should've put us up 14 in the 1st QTR but were called back because of penalties, that no one saw or even noticed, and then they proceeded to beat the crap out of us, maybe 2009.

Nope - I actually looked it up before I wrote the post https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-11-15-sp-913-story.html

[Matt3467]

The worst officiated game I ever saw and what ignited my intense dislike of Bama was their 2018 game vs us. They screwed us over blatantly so much and even took away points from us. I believe they ended up shutting us out. I was disgusted at the officiating.

[parabrave]

Nope - I actually looked it up before I wrote the post https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-11-15-sp-913-story.html

OK your memory is better than mine. But after that game, and they were happy to get out of there with a win, everyone said with that defense and it was one of the best ever, they would win the championship. And glad I took Bama when everyone took Miami.

[BrunswickDawg]

OK your memory is better than mine. But after that game, and they were happy to get out of there with a win, everyone said with that defense and it was one of the best ever, they would win the championship. And glad I took Bama when everyone took Miami.

Yes, the Gumps were happy to get out with a win. I actually went to a party in Tuscaloosa the following January that turned out to be a football team party. Talked to several players who said that the MSU game was the toughest
game by far that season including the SEC against Florida and the Sugar against Miami.