Creee Whittemore

[StarkVegasSteve]

Sorry I misspelled the thread name. Trying to post from phone. Creed Whittemore listed on the injury report for this weekend. I imagine we will get word that he is redshirting in the next day or so.

[HancockCountyDog]

He is redshirting and transferring. Hard to blame him,

[HoopsDawg]

Smart move.

[BigDawg81]

He is gone. He will hit the portal as soon as it opens. I hate seeing the sport like this.

[civildawg]

Don't blame him one bit. Every time he got the ball he made plays yet coaches continued to not play him

[BuckyIsAB****]

Im in the portal too

[Cooterpoot]

He's not going to be the last. You're about see some movement. This staff smh
I'll go ahead and say it, this program is in massive trouble.

[BigDawg81]

He's not going to be the last. You're about see some movement. This staff smh
I'll go ahead and say it, this program is in massive trouble. Trent Hudson. His dad has been whining the whole damn year

[Cooterpoot]

Trent Hudson. His dad has been whining the whole damn year

I'm not even including him because everybody knows about that. You're going to see multiple guys leaving. Not that a few don't need to but a few we need to keep.

[sandjunky]

My fandom is up for sale

I think I?m going to become a Dallas Patriots fan

[RockyDog]

B-b-b-but all we have to do is coach up the 3 stars and become a developmental program! Who needs portal talent!

<genespage> baaaaaah baaaaaaah baaaaaah </genespage>

[BeardoMSU]

Yeah....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqyG3CcoLM&ab_channel=Pvt.WilliamHudson

[BeardoMSU]

I'm not even including him because everybody knows about that. You're going to see multiple guys leaving. Not that a few don't need to but a few we need to keep.

on a scale of 1-10, how bad is this about to get?

[Cooterpoot]

My fandom is up for sale

I think I?m going to become a Dallas Patriots fan

Everybody is about to become sidewalk Alabama, UGA, etc fans. They're ready to whore out their fandom for some relief.

[Cooterpoot]

on a scale of 1-10, how bad is this about to get?

LOL not really that bad, I'd say a 4. We just don't have enough good players to matter. Some need to go too. I'm basically checked out til year 3 lol. I'll keeping going and watching but I'm just not going to get too invested. If I can find a good tailgate, I might just sit in the junction.

[Coach34]

Make some money off us. Offset your misery with some bonus bucks

[BuckyIsAB****]

Someone explain to me why you care about college football in its current state

[Coach34]

Someone explain to me why you care about college football in its current state

Its hard to give up old habits. For decades- I have structured my Fall football Saturdays around cooking a good meal and college football. Now its just gambling on games and a good meal. Very little emotional care now. I care more about the spread now than if we win or lose. Its betting on no name robots.

[Cowbell]

He's not going to be the last. You're about see some movement. This staff smh
I'll go ahead and say it, this program is in massive trouble.

You sure didn't seem bothered when I hinted at this Saturday night - we are about to find a new bottom that croom never even saw

[Cowbell]

Someone explain to me why you care about college football in its current state

I'm glad I am a western hunter. The second and third games, I was in the Alaskan Bush chasing moose with no cell service and didn't bother me a bit. My wife texted scores to my satellite phone and I thought she was pranking me with the Toledo score.

[Cooterpoot]

You sure didn't seem bothered when I hinted at this Saturday night - we are about to find a new bottom that croom never even saw

I try to stay positive with it, but it's bad. Lebby brought in a terrible OL, a terrible DC, and he can't get the ball to playmakers much with his offense. I'm sticking to the talent shortage reason but I'm getting weak knees.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm glad I am a western hunter. The second and third games, I was in the Alaskan Bush chasing moose with no cell service and didn't bother me a bit. My wife texted scores to my satellite phone and I thought she was pranking me with the Toledo score.

Dude that?s one of the most badass things I?ve ever heard

[BuckyIsAB****]

Its hard to give up old habits. For decades- I have structured my Fall football Saturdays around cooking a good meal and college football. Now it?s just gambling on games and a good meal. Very little emotional care now. I care more about the spread now than if we win or lose. It?s betting on no name robots.

I get it. Might as well make it about the money thats all the coaches players and schools have done. But im just not gonna participate

[parabrave]

Everybody is about to become sidewalk Alabama, UGA, etc fans. They're ready to whore out their fandom for some relief.

I guess I'll go back to being a Horn Fan. Jim Street Jim Bertelson and Steve Woster. I remember watching them beat ND for the 69 Champ. Yep they ran the Wishbone with Bellard as their OC.

[Bothrops]

So what good is the portal/NIL era for us again? This whole thing this scheme, designed by a bunch of blubber headed, bean counting ****s in suits promoting entitlement has destroyed the college sport. Especially football where cohesiveness and camaraderie is very important in achieving success. So they want to end it by placating to the demands of immature kids with no limitations. What a way to shape future generations.

[Dawgface]

Im in the portal too

I?m going to watch old roller derby reruns. I don?t give a rats about college football anymore.

[Dawgology]

I'm glad I am a western hunter. The second and third games, I was in the Alaskan Bush chasing moose with no cell service and didn't bother me a bit. My wife texted scores to my satellite phone and I thought she was pranking me with the Toledo score.

You just out there hanging out with Joe Rogan all the time?

ETA: yeah, I’ve been checked out of college football the last two seasons. Watch NFL waaaaay more now. This administration torpedo our football program. It’s all over but the crying as they say.

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm gonna charter an NIL for fans that the University can contribute to. Put your 'image' in the seat every week and get a check. I mean they gotta have an expense line of some kind to go with that top line revenue. *****

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm gonna be honest. This is a nothing burger. We don't really play the kid so all we're missing out on is potential. We have Craver, Coleman, Mosely, Burnside, etc. That's not including what we'll add in the portal this offseason. We will be fine at the receiver position.

[Coursesuper]

Im in the portal too

My handicap is trending below 5 and with great fall weather I can get there. No reason not to play every weekend now until the weather gets to cold.

[Maverick91]

Can someone explain why he never really saw the field? For a guy that seemingly got a first down each time he touched the ball it's really weird the lack of playing time.

[GoDawgz]

I'm gonna be honest. This is a nothing burger. We don't really play the kid so all we're missing out on is potential. We have Craver, Coleman, Mosely, Burnside, etc. That's not including what we'll add in the portal this offseason. We will be fine at the receiver position.

careful Steve, I sense a hint of positivity......counter strike of the piling on of negativity in coming in 3,2,1....

[parabrave]

So what good is the portal/NIL era for us again? This whole thing this scheme, designed by a bunch of blubber headed, bean counting ****s in suits promoting entitlement has destroyed the college sport. Especially football where cohesiveness and camaraderie is very important in achieving success. So they want to end it by placating to the demands of immature kids with no limitations. What a way to shape future generations.

It's because the NCAA and the university admins didn't want to part with any of the TV monies or any other royalties that were going into their highly inflated salaries. All they had to do was give the kids a stipend and the problem might have been avoided before the Lawyers.agents got involved. But instead they somehow put the onus of paying these kids on the backs of the fans who don't make a cent off these kids' NIL.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can someone explain why he never really saw the field? For a guy that seemingly got a first down each time he touched the ball it's really weird the lack of playing time.

Two different coaching staffs, two different play callers, two different schemes. Now who is the common denominator in all that change? That will give you your answer.

[bulldawg28]

Can someone explain why he never really saw the field? For a guy that seemingly got a first down each time he touched the ball it's really weird the lack of playing time.

New coaches always want to play "their guys".

[BeardoMSU]

I'm gonna be honest. This is a nothing burger. We don't really play the kid so all we're missing out on is potential. We have Craver, Coleman, Mosely, Burnside, etc. That's not including what we'll add in the portal this offseason. We will be fine at the receiver position.

This can't be true, Steve. You apparently didn't get the memo that we must be reactionary negative Nancy's 100% of the time.***

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[BigDawg81]

Is he really that good? He looked good vs FCS but the past two staff never really played him. We can agree the Arnett and Barbay were idiots. I do not think Lebby is an idiot.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It's because the NCAA and the university admins didn't want to part with any of the TV monies or any other royalties that were going into their highly inflated salaries. All they had to do was give the kids a stipend and the problem might have been avoided before the Lawyers.agents got involved. But instead they somehow put the onus of paying these kids on the backs of the fans who don't make a cent off these kids' NIL.

They were already getting a stipend

[TrapGame]

Is he really that good? He looked good vs FCS but the past two staff never really played him. We can agree the Arnett and Barbay were idiots. I do not think Lebby is an idiot.

I think the recruiting rankings are totally off on most of the current high school players and have been for a while. Creed was a high 4* but he has barely gotten any touches. He's had some flashes of greatness and then he disappears on the field like Amelia Earhart.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm gonna be honest. This is a nothing burger. We don't really play the kid so all we're missing out on is potential. We have Craver, Coleman, Mosely, Burnside, etc. That's not including what we'll add in the portal this offseason. We will be fine at the receiver position.

He's started a couple times and is 2nd on the team in yards per catch

[StarkVegasSteve]

He's started a couple times and is 2nd on the team in yards per catch

We will have to replace 4 catches for 65 yds. I think we will be ok.

[Cooterpoot]

We will have to replace 4 catches for 65 yds. I think we will be ok.

The coaches didn't want to lose him, that's all you need to know. He's a player that our poor coaching hasn't helped. And make no mistake about it, the offensive side isn't coached well at all. Jeff Lebby is having to learn how to call plays and be a HC at the same time. He's not handling it well to this point. Hard to get guys touches when your going fast and not doing squat and the defense is trash.

[Cooterpoot]

This is a three year project at best just to get our heads above water. Not a damn thing we can do about it. It's dark ass times at Mississippi State.

[parabrave]

The coaches didn't want to lose him, that's all you need to know. He's a player that our poor coaching hasn't helped. And make no mistake about it, the offensive side isn't coached well at all. Jeff Lebby is having to learn how to call plays and be a HC at the same time. He's not handling it well to this point. Hard to get guys touches when your going fast and not doing squat and the defense is trash.

Yep. The SEC isn't the place doe on the job training. Esp with an non existent roster.

[Coursesuper]

This is a three year project at best just to get our heads above water. Not a damn thing we can do about it. It's dark ass times at Mississippi State.

I hope this is just 3 years. I have real doubts about this athletic administration, I hope they are capable of digging out of this shatstorm, but sadly I don’t feel they are.

[HoopsDawg]

My fandom is up for sale

I think I?m going to become a Dallas Patriots fan

I can't just force myself to like another team. I would if I could.

[confucius say]

Love creed. Wish he played more. Wish he would stay because he can be good.

But this is way down the list of issues. I expect another WR who doesn't play to follow suit. That position is the least of our worries.

[HancockCountyDog]

I keep telling myself that the bill for years of shitty recruiting would eventually come due. I was hoping the portal would allow us to mask our recruiting failures over the last 4 years, but it didn't happen.

We were able to survive the last two seasons because of Covid and Leach/Rogers. Covid gave us several defensive players that stayed for an extra year and allowed us to be serviceable on defense. It was not good, but at least gave us a chance. Now - those guys that made NFL training camps and rosters are gone. Our current offensive system does not have an advantage. Say what you want about Leach and Rogers, they were very good at taking advantage of teams that did not have SEC-level defenders and were eaten up by Leach's scheme and Rogers ability to run that offense.

Now we don't run an offense that really allows us to have a scheme advantage. It puts pressure on the OL, and honestly, we have missed on OL portal transfers.

We were eventually going to pay for recruiting misses the last several years. There aren't players like Bookie, Jett, Crumedy, Wheat, Cam Young, or Richardson to cover up talent issues on defense.

The only way out of this is for Lebby's offense to start actually looking like a capable offense so that we look like 2020 bears who were god-awful on defense, but they could score. We are light-years away from that. Defensively, I think we have another year of looking like this unless we somehow hit big in the portal. Don't talk to me about juco players, because they always take a year to really develop unless they are a Montez Sweat type player.

As much as I liked Leach from afar prior to arriving at MSU, and as much as I did like him as a person and a coach, man he did us no favors on the recruiting trail. As much as Jomo wasted the 2018 team, that guy did recruit, just wish he could coach.

[fieldcorporal]

I guess I'll go back to being a Horn Fan. Jim Street Jim Bertelson and Steve Woster. I remember watching them beat ND for the 69 Champ. Yep they ran the Wishbone with Bellard as their OC.

I was in high school in corpus back then. I still remember the replay photo of Streets foot at the corner of side line and yard line vs Arky in 1969 "Game of the century". I still don't know if he was in or out. Keith Jackson didn't either.

[Bothrops]

The coaches didn't want to lose him, that's all you need to know. He's a player that our poor coaching hasn't helped. And make no mistake about it, the offensive side isn't coached well at all. Jeff Lebby is having to learn how to call plays and be a HC at the same time. He's not handling it well to this point. Hard to get guys touches when your going fast and not doing squat and the defense is trash.

If we could solve the issues on defense it would help tremendously. But yes, that is a pipe dream from where we stand.

[Bothrops]

We will have to replace 4 catches for 65 yds. I think we will be ok.

Yes but you need to consider who else we'll be losing too. The guy in front of him? The guy behind him? Plus other guys at the position. I'd almost bet this offense won't have much to throw to next season. Defensively, we may be a little better, but offensively we could be worse.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yes but you need to consider who else we'll be losing too. The guy in front of him? The guy behind him? Plus other guys at the position. I'd almost bet this offense won't have much to throw to next season. Defensively, we may be a little better, but offensively we could be worse.

The other receivers are staying. Creed is not leaving because of an NIL issue. He is leaving because of PT.

[Bothrops]

The other receivers are staying. Creed is not leaving because of an NIL issue. He is leaving because of PT.

We will lose other receivers at the end of the season. Some due to playing time, others to better deals.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We will lose other receivers at the end of the season. Some due to playing time, others to better deals.

Our deals are good. Coleman is happy, Moseley is happy, Craver will be happy, and the other will be good. We also are planning on bringing 2-3 receivers in through the portal.

[SPMT]

This is a three year project at best just to get our heads above water. Not a damn thing we can do about it. It's dark ass times at Mississippi State.

If Lebby takes zero action in replacing staff in the off season he needs to roll before 3 years.

Lean on the Briles!

[SPMT]

Every time I have talked to an athletic department staff member all they say is we can make it happen with money.

[BankerDog]

The coaches didn't want to lose him, that's all you need to know. He's a player that our poor coaching hasn't helped. And make no mistake about it, the offensive side isn't coached well at all. Jeff Lebby is having to learn how to call plays and be a HC at the same time. He's not handling it well to this point. Hard to get guys touches when your going fast and not doing squat and the defense is trash.

He is being coached by the another guy who we just had to have because ?he is one of us?.

[TrapGame]

If Lebby takes zero action in replacing staff in the off season he needs to roll before 3 years.

Lean on the Briles!

If he keeps Hutzler that should be an auto fire right there, but I seriously doubt he will.

As far as I'm concerned Art can wear shades and a hoodie, sit in the corner and give Lebby all the coaching advice he can give him.

[Duckdog]

Screw that douchebag and his douchebag dad. I swear half of yall would hold a state football players peepee in ya mouth until the swelling went down.

[Pancho]

well you are a genius

[Lord McBuckethead]

Don't blame him one bit. Every time he got the ball he made plays yet coaches continued to not play him

Yep. It is dumb. Literally every time he touches the ball, good things happen. MSU barely lets him see the field, and then they don?t scheme it up for him. To me, has Akari even caught a pass yet?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep. It is dumb. Literally every time he touches the ball, good things happen. MSU barely lets him see the field, and then they don?t scheme it up for him. To me, has Akari even caught a pass yet?

8 for 106. However, I only remember one against ASU and maybe one against Toledo.

[Goldendawg]

I started a thread about 9/21 regarding our overcrowded WR room (Again) and terribly out of balance roster. Got about 3 posts. I'm no insider but every time Creed was on the field and targeted it seemed to be a very positive result. Anyone could see this coming on his probably leaving the program. 23 of 100 players left from the last four recruiting classes. How many are even seeing the field with SEC talent type results? What a joke of evaluation/recruiting(HS, JC, Portal) by many HC's and "staff", past and jury out on present.