Steve Spurrior feels bad for State NIL...............................

[99jc]

Legendary head coach Steve Spurrier watched his Florida Gators go into Starkville and beat the Mississippi State Bulldogs last weekend, where one of his major takeaways was that he feels bad for the school’s NIL budget.

Roster building has changed in college football thanks to changes like NIL and the Transfer Portal. That’s let some teams push ahead while others have fallen behind, and as Spurrier explained on Another Dooley Noted Podcast, he believes the Bulldogs are slipping behind their competition.



“In a way, I feel a little bad for Mississippi State because Ole Miss has a huge NIL fund,” Steve Spurrier said. “I don’t know what they’re spending but they’re spending right there with Ohio State and Texas and all those schools. And poor Mississippi State, I don’t think they’re spending much. They don’t have it to spend.”


Steve Spurrier used Ohio State as an example of a school with a large NIL budget and the Buckeyes certainly do fit the bill there. It has been previously reported that the Buckeyes had a $20 million NIL budget to build its roster during the offseason. That included adding several players in the Transfer Portal while retaining other players already on the roster.



“That’s the way college football is nowadays,” Spurrier said. “The schools that have the most money should be able to get the best players, but then again, the team with the best players don’t always win. We know that.”

The current Mississippi State NIL collective is called The Bulldog Initiative. It was unveiled back in May of 2022 and was founded by Charlie Winfield. With the support of the school’s athletic department, the collective has “the goal of helping MSU athletes promote the university and the surrounding area through NIL opportunities.” Football, basketball, and baseball are the sports that the collec tive is primarily involved with.




Just prior to the game against Florida, Mississippi State did receive a massive donation of $8 million to the State Excellence Fund. It was an anonymous gift and the second-largest, non-facility donation in the school’s history for athletics. It’s also pledged to the football program, largely with changes like NIL.

Mississippi State ended up dropping the game to Steve Spurrier’s Florida Gators by a score of 45-28. With that, the Bulldogs fell to 1-3 in head coach Jeff Lebby‘s first season with the program.

Next, the Bulldogs will turn their attention to a massive test next Saturday when Mississippi State travels to Austin to take on the Texas Longhorns.

[TrapGame]

He felt so bad it's not there anymore. **

[DEDawg]

Link isn?t working for me

[99jc]

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[Cooterpoot]

Spurrier is the closest thing to a female coach I've seen. His son let go by Arnett has him moist.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I see he's still salty about his son being let go and not being given the OC job.

[TrapGame]

Isn't Arkansas' NIL about like ours? Even with the Tysons and Waltons?

Freeze is telling everyone the reason AU doesn't have a good QB is b/c "We don't have the money for a good QB." WTH? I thought AU was loaded with that Yella Wood money.

[EdwardDrayton]

What's his NIL source?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Isn't Arkansas' NIL about like ours? Even with the Tysons and Waltons?

Freeze is telling everyone the reason AU doesn't have a good QB is b/c "We don't have the money for a good QB." WTH? I thought AU was loaded with that Yella Wood money.

John Tyson is just now getting involved. He basically was just giving the minimum amt. He was pissed because he wanted Pittman canned at the end of last year and wanted Gus. The Walton's give more to the academic side than athletic side. They also don't live in Arkansas.

[cheewgumm]

We need to execute a plan to gain monthly subscribers to NIL.

I do not know if we are doing that or not.

That way everyone gives a little and it adds up to a lot.

That is the way.

Otherwise we just wait for someone to get rich.

[Todd4State]

I see he's still salty about his son being let go and not being given the OC job.

He would have been better than Barbay.

Actually wish we had thrown Leach's salary at Spurrier and made him the interim for a year instead of promoting Arnett and the booster's friends.

[StarkVegasSteve]

He would have been better than Barbay.

Actually wish we had thrown Leach's salary at Spurrier and made him the interim for a year instead of promoting Arnett and the booster's friends.

Spurrier didn't want the head job. He wanted him and Mason to be Co-OCs and Arnett to just handle the defense. How it was pitched to the coaches, from what I was told, was that Arnett would be the CEO type coach and help Brock with the D and Mason and Spurrier would handle the O. We would see how that would work and reevaluate at years end. Make no mistake, we were never confident that Arnett was ready. That is why Bracky and Keenum wrote his contract the way they did. And thank god he didn't have Jimmy as his agent at the time. He would've never let us write it like that.

[Todd4State]

Spurrier didn't want the head job. He wanted him and Mason to be Co-OCs and Arnett to just handle the defense. How it was pitched to the coaches, from what I was told, was that Arnett would be the CEO type coach and help Brock with the D and Mason and Spurrier would handle the O. We would see how that would work and reevaluate at years end. Make no mistake, we were never confident that Arnett was ready. That is why Bracky and Keenum wrote his contract the way they did. And thank god he didn't have Jimmy as his agent at the time. He would've never let us write it like that.

Interesting. And Arnett fired them anyway? The set up you described I think would have worked better than what we did.

By the way- I meant make Steve Spurrier, Sr. the head coach for a year not Jr.

[Rawdawg]

I talked to Eric George not long after signing day and Mason had been let go and he told me the whole point of promoting ZA was to maintain for a year and that the administration was very surprised at all the changes that were being made.

[MoreCowbell]

It would not surprise me if the person who donated the 8 million was not associated with State at all. Some really rich person from another SEC school sees what Ole Miss is becoming and needs us to be able to compete somewhat in-state. You know any of our boosters would want people to know who it was from.

[TrapGame]

It would not surprise me if the person who donated the 8 million was not associated with State at all. Some really rich person from another SEC school sees what Ole Miss is becoming and needs us to be able to compete somewhat in-state. You know any of our boosters would want people to know who it was from.

Damn, it was Saban.

[Cooterpoot]

It would not surprise me if the person who donated the 8 million was not associated with State at all. Some really rich person from another SEC school sees what Ole Miss is becoming and needs us to be able to compete somewhat in-state. You know any of our boosters would want people to know who it was from.

You'd be wrong

[LC Dawg]

Most of these people that say they know how much schools have in their NIL actually don't know shit from ****.

[EdwardDrayton]

Most of these people that say they know how much schools have in their NIL actually don't know shit from ****.

^^^^^^^^

[confucius say]

It would not surprise me if the person who donated the 8 million was not associated with State at all. Some really rich person from another SEC school sees what Ole Miss is becoming and needs us to be able to compete somewhat in-state. You know any of our boosters would want people to know who it was from.

No. He's very much a state person.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am kind of salty about it. Arnett sealed his fate the day he cut the entire offensive staff for whatever the 17 his staff was supposed to be.

[Todd4State]

I talked to Eric George not long after signing day and Mason had been let go and he told me the whole point of promoting ZA was to maintain for a year and that the administration was very surprised at all the changes that were being made.

In other words Arnett lied to the administration. Seems like a pattern forming here.

[Santiago]

I am kind of salty about it. Arnett sealed his fate the day he cut the entire offensive staff for whatever the 17 his staff was supposed to be.

Honestly I am too, and even more at how some in the media and posters pumped the sudden changes as a good thing, regardless of continuity and personnel.
Last season on message boards, it was sort of framed by some as those that were Air Raid fans, but that was just the lazy take on it. It was more about our leadership, and alumni, and lying that went down.
Not trying to go backwards on it, but the overall thing, and how those called anyone against the sudden changes as "a cult", just made it worse.

[NCMSTFAN]

Can someone with good knowledge about the NIL explain to me what Ole Miss is doing that we can't? Obviously they have boosters and Alumni helping but is there something else I'm just not aware of?

[NCMSTFAN]

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472519

I was curious where we ranked nationally with NIL, I know this isn't 100% accurate but 247 has us in the top 50 at #39th..... SEC teams closest to us are UK #36, Ole Miss #35, Arky #33. Again I know this isn't always accurate but we aren't that far away from those teams, and since everything seems to point at NIL now a days being a top 50 NIL team means we shouldn't be getting blown out by Toledo type teams. There are new staffs with new players across the nation with lower NIL money than us but look better than we do. I just dont think the NIL excuse holds all the weight, yes it matters but it can't be our only excuse not to keep up. Heck look at Jans, he brought in a really good recruiting class and probably has the most talented team on campus right now on paper.

[Offshore Dawg]

He who has the most money can try to buy the best players.

[Santiago]

He who has the most money can try to buy the best players.

TX Tech players said watching ASU film against MSU , that was laughable and we had the worst run defensive setups they had seen.
Money helps, but right now Lebby has made bad decisions on assistants.

[Cooterpoot]

Can someone with good knowledge about the NIL explain to me what Ole Miss is doing that we can't? Obviously they have boosters and Alumni helping but is there something else I'm just not aware of?

Supposedly they borrowed big money for one giant season.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can someone with good knowledge about the NIL explain to me what Ole Miss is doing that we can't? Obviously they have boosters and Alumni helping but is there something else I'm just not aware of?

They are all rowing in the same direction. They have everyone from students to Andy Palmer, Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, and Jerry Hollingsworth donating. They have made it cool to be part of the Grove Collective. They proudly buy the merch and wear it. They want people to know that they donate.

Juxtapose that with our fan base, we have people so strongly against it that they chastise the people who do donate and tell them they're idiots for doing. The Grove Collective and Bulldog Initiative are not doing anything different. The difference is that their fan base gets it, accepts it, and knows what it will take to win. And our fan base bitches about it and is hellbent on complaining about it. Their fan base is proactive and ours is reactive.

[Brobi-wan]

They are all rowing in the same direction. They have everyone from students to Andy Palmer, Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, and Jerry Hollingsworth donating. They have made it cool to be part of the Grove Collective. They proudly buy the merch and wear it. They want people to know that they donate.

Juxtapose that with our fan base, we have people so strongly against it that they chastise the people who do donate and tell them they're idiots for doing. The Grove Collective and Bulldog Initiative are not doing anything different. The difference is that their fan base gets it, accepts it, and knows what it will take to win. And our fan base bitches about it and is hellbent on complaining about it. Their fan base is proactive and ours is reactive.

But but, my ROI isn?t as good as my Roth if I donate to the BI.****

[TrapGame]

They are all rowing in the same direction. They have everyone from students to Andy Palmer, Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, and Jerry Hollingsworth donating. They have made it cool to be part of the Grove Collective. They proudly buy the merch and wear it. They want people to know that they donate.

Juxtapose that with our fan base, we have people so strongly against it that they chastise the people who do donate and tell them they're idiots for doing. The Grove Collective and Bulldog Initiative are not doing anything different. The difference is that their fan base gets it, accepts it, and knows what it will take to win. And our fan base bitches about it and is hellbent on complaining about it. Their fan base is proactive and ours is reactive.

Steve, their fan base knew they were buying players back in Brewer's day and smiled. They knew Freeze was buying players with red duffel bags full of cash and smiled. They know this is just "legally" buying players and they are not afraid of getting caught now. While we have a lot of our fans that believe we got Jeff Simmons and Chris Jones the "right way" and didn't spend a dime for them. Buying players has ALWAYS been a part of college football. It's part of the business. So now we can legally buy players and our fans still have sand in their cracks about it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Steve, their fan base knew they were buying players back in Brewer's day and smiled. They knew Freeze was buying players with red duffel bags full of cash and smiled. They know this is just "legally" buying players and they are not afraid of getting caught now. While we have a lot of our fans that believe we got Jeff Simmons and Chris Jones the "right way" and didn't spend a dime for them. Buying players has ALWAYS been a part of college football. It's part of the business. So now we can legally buy players and our fans still have sand in their cracks about it.

Nail on the head right there Trap. We have fans that believe none of our players before NIL ever got paid. Hell Dak had 5 debit cards his junior and senior year. There was money being put in accounts for him.

[AROB44]

Nail on the head right there Trap. We have fans that believe none of our players before NIL ever got paid. Hell Dak had 5 debit cards his junior and senior year. There was money being put in accounts for him.

Oh, the horror of it all!

[R2Dawg]

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-footballs-top-50-programs-ranked-by-nil-efforts-235181311/#2472519

I was curious where we ranked nationally with NIL, I know this isn't 100% accurate but 247 has us in the top 50 at #39th..... SEC teams closest to us are UK #36, Ole Miss #35, Arky #33. Again I know this isn't always accurate but we aren't that far away from those teams, and since everything seems to point at NIL now a days being a top 50 NIL team means we shouldn't be getting blown out by Toledo type teams. There are new staffs with new players across the nation with lower NIL money than us but look better than we do. I just dont think the NIL excuse holds all the weight, yes it matters but it can't be our only excuse not to keep up. Heck look at Jans, he brought in a really good recruiting class and probably has the most talented team on campus right now on paper.

Yep this is correct. NIL ain't our main issue. Same way our pathetic recruiting when Mullen was here was't our issue either.

One issue I have with NIL is if you ask a fanbase to just fork over money but no one knows where it goes? Where is the accountability? No one runs a business and pours money into anything that they don't know where it is going, who gets it and what they get for it. This is what is missing with NIL and must be fixed. This generation thinks you get money with no accountability for what you do.

[confucius say]

Yep this is correct. NIL ain't our main issue. Same way our pathetic recruiting when Mullen was here was't our issue either.

One issue I have with NIL is if you ask a fanbase to just fork over money but no one knows where it goes? Where is the accountability? No one runs a business and pours money into anything that they don't know where it is going, who gets it and what they get for it. This is what is missing with NIL and must be fixed. This generation thinks you get money with no accountability for what you do.

Mullen's recruiting wasn't pathetic.

[gtowndawg]

They are all rowing in the same direction. They have everyone from students to Andy Palmer, Dickie Scruggs, David Nutt, and Jerry Hollingsworth donating. They have made it cool to be part of the Grove Collective. They proudly buy the merch and wear it. They want people to know that they donate.

Juxtapose that with our fan base, we have people so strongly against it that they chastise the people who do donate and tell them they're idiots for doing. The Grove Collective and Bulldog Initiative are not doing anything different. The difference is that their fan base gets it, accepts it, and knows what it will take to win. And our fan base bitches about it and is hellbent on complaining about it. Their fan base is proactive and ours is reactive.

Well said.

[MoreCowbell]

You'd be wrong

I hope so

[Todd4State]

Mullen's recruiting wasn't pathetic.

It wasn't as good as it could and should have been either.

[NCMSTFAN]

Yep this is correct. NIL ain't our main issue. Same way our pathetic recruiting when Mullen was here was't our issue either.

One issue I have with NIL is if you ask a fanbase to just fork over money but no one knows where it goes? Where is the accountability? No one runs a business and pours money into anything that they don't know where it is going, who gets it and what they get for it. This is what is missing with NIL and must be fixed. This generation thinks you get money with no accountability for what you do.

Very true

[Bothrops]

If there's a poor man problem narrative out there in the business, the state of Miss, and/or Mississippi State University is going to surface as the reference.