NIL - Is our NIL team doing this? If not, why not?

[cheewgumm]

Part of "fixing" this is increasing NIL. Is our NIL team calling fans, trying to set up monthly contributions from EVERYONE?

IF NOT, WHY NOT?


We need to pay monthly, like we do for Netflix or whatever.

If you think about it, State sports is som4ething you watch all year and has a HUGE part in how happy you are.


* You pay $20 per month for netflix.
* Why are you so agaisnt paying $20 per month for State.


Don't dream up reasons to not do it. Think about how important State's ahtletic success is to your happiness.

15,000 fans
$20 per month

$3.6 M per year

Our NIL folks should set up and being calling FANS constantly. This should be their business.

[cheewgumm]

and before everyone talks about how corrupt it is, I AGREE.

The NCAA has tricked fans into paying NIL. I agree.

But it doesnt matter. This is the game. Play or quit.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The thing I have heard from people is that they want something tangible in return. So with Netflix, Hulu, ESPN+, or name the subscription service you have something you are given. A lot of our people don't want something for nothing. And I can promise you our NIL people are looking at ways to give people something in return.

[cheewgumm]

The thing I have heard from people is that they want something tangible in return. So with Netflix, Hulu, ESPN+, or name the subscription service you have something you are given. A lot of our people don't want something for nothing. And I can promise you our NIL people are looking at ways to give people something in return.

That may be right, but why not set up students to call everyone and ask for them to sign up?

Some people will want something, some ( like me) will understand they are getting a better team (hopefully).

There is nothing lost from doing it and they need to build a recurring base. This should be the main thing they do, in my opinion. Their job is to buiild the recurring base. The other stuff is gravy.

[TrapGame]

$100/month gets you season tickets and nice seats to your sport of choice (just one). You also get a concession voucher and 50% all State athletic apparel at select locations.

This could be called Cowbell level.

$150/month (gotta keep it close so people think about jumping up a level) gets the above except slightly better seats and 75% off State athletic apparel plus premium parking at a designated area.

This could be called Bully level.

Just some thoughts.

[StarkVegasSteve]

$100/month gets you season tickets and nice seats to your sport of choice (just one). You also get a concession voucher and 50% all State athletic apparel at select locations.

This could be called Cowbell level.

$150/month (gotta keep it close so people think about jumping up a level) gets the above except slightly better seats and 75% off State athletic apparel plus premium parking at a designated area.

This could be called Bully level.

Just some thoughts.

You'd have to coordinate that with the athletic dept and right now you can't do that. Tennessee can do what they are doing because they are charging a fee on top of tickets and parking that money in a fund to pay for athletes when it becomes legal for the University to do it.

You're on the right track with the donations getting you something. I think the best thing is $100/month gets you access to watch a preseason scrimmage in football. Maybe $250/month gets you Gridiron Club Passes for a game. Maybe $1000/month gets you use of a suite for a game. That way the Initiative would be the one's having those things but could give them to the customer. You can kind of skirt by the University involvement.

[TrapGame]

You'd have to coordinate that with the athletic dept and right now you can't do that. Tennessee can do what they are doing because they are charging a fee on top of tickets and parking that money in a fund to pay for athletes when it becomes legal for the University to do it.

You're on the right track with the donations getting you something. I think the best thing is $100/month gets you access to watch a preseason scrimmage in football. Maybe $250/month gets you Gridiron Club Passes for a game. Maybe $1000/month gets you use of a suite for a game. That way the Initiative would be the one's having those things but could give them to the customer. You can kind of skirt by the University involvement.

$1,000/month is called Cigar Boy level. ***

[StarkVegasSteve]

$1,000/month is called Cigar Boy level. ***

$25K/month and we'll let you call a play. Literally not kidding. If someone wanted to give the BI 25K a month I bet we could arrange for them to call a play.

[Bert Stare]

Don't dream up reasons to not do it. Think about how important State's ahtletic success is to your happiness.


I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

[Extendedcab]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

I agree! This ^

[cheewgumm]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

I get it, I have a lot of happiness outside of Stat sports. But i have a lot of happiness outside of Netflix too.

I'm just making a point.

[cheewgumm]

I'd also say going to a State game is more "touching grass" than Netflix is.

[TrapGame]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

Part of the problem is no one really gets anything for their NIL contribution. Like I posted above, if I can pay $150/month and get something pretty damn good in return I'm in like Flint. And I'm not the only one either.

Hell, when the university is able to work with VISA or Master Card to have a NIL credit card that gives 10% of your purchase back to NIL, I'm there too.

[parabrave]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

Dammit Bert quit making sense.

[ScoobaDawg]

Part of the problem is no one really gets anything for their NIL contribution. Like I posted above, if I can pay $150/month and get something pretty damn good in return I'm in like Flint. And I'm not the only one either.

Hell, when the university is able to work with VISA or Master Card to have a NIL credit card that gives 10% of your purchase back to NIL, I'm there too.

That went over like a fart in the wind around here when proposed ...

[cheewgumm]

I think the "happiness tied to State sports" may have sent the wrong message.

How about: "Think about how much enjoyment you get from State sports".

That is obivoous. We are all here talking about it all the time. We obiovusly enjoy it.

[confucius say]

The thing I have heard from people is that they want something tangible in return. So with Netflix, Hulu, ESPN+, or name the subscription service you have something you are given. A lot of our people don't want something for nothing. And I can promise you our NIL people are looking at ways to give people something in return.

I wish our fans would understand the something tangible you get in return is better players and more enjoyment out of something they already are going to invest time in anyway.

[parabrave]

$100/month gets you season tickets and nice seats to your sport of choice (just one). You also get a concession voucher and 50% all State athletic apparel at select locations.

This could be called Cowbell level.

$150/month (gotta keep it close so people think about jumping up a level) gets the above except slightly better seats and 75% off State athletic apparel plus premium parking at a designated area.

This could be called Bully level.

Just some thoughts.

This is what the BDC did back in the 90s for you to be able to get your seat that you had for 10 years or some families decades/

[confucius say]

You'd have to coordinate that with the athletic dept and right now you can't do that. Tennessee can do what they are doing because they are charging a fee on top of tickets and parking that money in a fund to pay for athletes when it becomes legal for the University to do it.

You're on the right track with the donations getting you something. I think the best thing is $100/month gets you access to watch a preseason scrimmage in football. Maybe $250/month gets you Gridiron Club Passes for a game. Maybe $1000/month gets you use of a suite for a game. That way the Initiative would be the one's having those things but could give them to the customer. You can kind of skirt by the University involvement.

I like where you're going.

I also wish we'd do the 10% "talent fee" on season tickets like TN is doing. I'd pay $462 instead of $420 for my season ticket if that extra $42 is going to acquire better talent.

[confucius say]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

Losing doesn't ruin my day anymore like it use to. I'm blessed and have so much.
But I want to win. So $75 a month isn't going to break me.
I pay more than that for YouTubetv because i enjoy it, not because my happiness is tied to it.

[confucius say]

Part of the problem is no one really gets anything for their NIL contribution. Like I posted above, if I can pay $150/month and get something pretty damn good in return I'm in like Flint. And I'm not the only one either.

Hell, when the university is able to work with VISA or Master Card to have a NIL credit card that gives 10% of your purchase back to NIL, I'm there too.

If every BC member gave just $100 a month you'd get something awesome in return-a playoff appearance.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I like where you're going.

I also wish we'd do the 10% "talent fee" on season tickets like TN is doing. I'd pay $462 instead of $420 for my season ticket if that extra $42 is going to acquire better talent.

In 2 years of beating the NIL drum, I've come to 2 conclusions:

1. Our fanbase hates it and doesn't want to do it

2. If they do it, they want something in return


And trust me folks, Charlie is not an idiot. He is well aware of all of this and is trying new things each and every day.

[cheewgumm]

In 2 years of beating the NIL drum, I've come to 2 conclusions:

1. Our fanbase hates it and doesn't want to do it

2. If they do it, they want something in return


And trust me folks, Charlie is not an idiot. He is well aware of all of this and is trying new things each and every day.

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Agree!!

I truly dont blame them. Just think you have to play cards dealt.

[confucius say]

In 2 years of beating the NIL drum, I've come to 2 conclusions:

1. Our fanbase hates it and doesn't want to do it

2. If they do it, they want something in return


And trust me folks, Charlie is not an idiot. He is well aware of all of this and is trying new things each and every day.

Agree fully.
How do we change number 1? If lebby wins (8-4), would that be enough to get people on board?
I wish he'd come out and say it like Lane did. We need players if we want to win.

[TrapGame]

I wish our fans would understand the something tangible you get in return is better players and more enjoyment out of something they already are going to invest time in anyway.

Then I've got better things to do with my $150/month.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Agree fully.
How do we change number 1? If lebby wins (8-4), would that be enough to get people on board?
I wish he'd come out and say it like Lane did. We need players if we want to win.

He has. Charlie has. Selmon has. Nothing is going to change it. They can beat that drum til their blue in the face, but until everyone gets rowing in the same direction it won't matter. People have to buy in and know that the ROI is we have a better opportunity to win. And that won't happen. Not with this fan base.

[confucius say]

Then I've got better things to do with my $150/month.

Then don't complain about losing.
If our fans can't give at least $20 a month, they shouldnt complain about us having a G5 OL and a FCS DL.

[confucius say]

He has. Charlie has. Selmon has. Nothing is going to change it. They can beat that drum til their blue in the face, but until everyone gets rowing in the same direction it won't matter. People have to buy in and know that the ROI is we have a better opportunity to win. And that won't happen. Not with this fan base.

I remember lane doing it in a postgame presser after they lost 52-17.
As soon as lebby gets a win and a hint of goodwill, I hope he does the same.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I remember lane doing it in a postgame presser after they lost 52-17.
As soon as lebby gets a win and a hint of goodwill, I hope he does the same.

He needs to get some goodwill first. If he could pull a miracle and get a couple of SEC wins then he could bang that drum when we get drilled.

[confucius say]

He needs to get some goodwill first. If he could pull a miracle and get a couple of SEC wins then he could bang that drum when we get drilled.

Agree.

[CaptainObvious]

Matt played Yurecek's presser today where he pointed out Ole Miss Collective has 5000 members while Ark has 1000. He said they need 10,000 homes giving $150 per month to be NIL competitive. Because Walmart, Tyson, Stevens and Hunt ain't gonna do it. Matt said bull hockey!

[cheewgumm]

Matt played Yurecek's presser today where he pointed out Ole Miss Collective has 5000 members while Ark has 1000. He said they need 10,000 homes giving $150 per month to be NIL competitive. Because Walmart, Tyson, Stevens and Hunt ain't gonna do it. Matt said bull hockey!


To be fair I agree with this, but it's like shouting because the sun came up.

When the music plays, you dance.

[cheewgumm]

The students in sprots mgt or whatever degree they get to work in an ahtletic department should all be working for the NIL,

1) Calling fans trying to get them on $20-$100 per month.
2) Working booths all around the stadium signing fans up
3) Soliciting businesses
4) dreaming up[ other stuff

Set goals, make thousands of calls and do it constantly.

This effort never stops.

[TrapGame]

Then don't complain about losing.
If our fans can't give at least $20 a month, they shouldnt complain about us having a G5 OL and a FCS DL.

Well good thing I already give so I can complain then. But, I'm not taking away from my family so 4 stars Bobby and Johnny can come here and leave in two years b/c they want more cheese. My $25/month ain't nothing and I can miss it. But if they want more, then I do too.

[Cooterpoot]

I think this is the disconnect I have. I enjoy state sports, but in absolutely zero way is my actual happiness tied into it. We are a perennial cellar dweller outside of baseball and sometimes basketball. I would be the most depressed human on earth if my actual happiness was tied into MSU sports results. y'all need to touch grass once in a while because the rest of us ain't funding this NIL scam. Better find some other hobbies, my friend.

So you're not canceling your PornHub subscription, got it

[parabrave]

So you're not canceling your PornHub subscription, got it

AT least he gets value for his entertainment dollar!****

[TrapGame]

So you're not canceling your PornHub subscription, got it

You know he gets all his action on Grindr. **

[confucius say]

Matt played Yurecek's presser today where he pointed out Ole Miss Collective has 5000 members while Ark has 1000. He said they need 10,000 homes giving $150 per month to be NIL competitive. Because Walmart, Tyson, Stevens and Hunt ain't gonna do it. Matt said bull hockey!

He said 100 a month right? That would be 12 million yearly. You don't need that much to be competitive in just football.

[confucius say]

Well good thing I already give so I can complain then. But, I'm not taking away from my family so 4 stars Bobby and Johnny can come here and leave in two years b/c they want more cheese. My $25/month ain't nothing and I can miss it. But if they want more, then I do too.

I'm glad you give $25 a month. That's awesome.
If everybody did that, we'd be fine because we would have the big donors to add to it.

[LC Dawg]

Out of curiosity I tried to scan the QR code for the BI on the Jumbotron Saturday night and couldn't get it to work. I only tried once so maybe I just didn't get it right but seems like we could have a better way to sign up at games.
I wonder if you could arrange it so if you use your phone to scan your ticket it could send a link to the BI. Maybe not to sign up but for a one time donation. If you make it easy for someone to give it's a lot easier to get money. Maybe have people hover around the beer lines to get some donations. Drunk people are the best targets.

[TrapGame]

I'm glad you give $25 a month. That's awesome.
If everybody did that, we'd be fine because we would have the big donors to add to it.

Well, I'm with you guys. I don't understand how thousands of die hard fans can't give at least $20 bucks a month.

But I tell ya what. When I win one of those $400-$500 million dollar lotteries, I got y'all. I'll give Charlie a check for $150 million for NIL

[TheLostDawg]

Well if we start winning that gets people more fired up and willing to donate. Unfortunately we aren't winning right now. We got behind and it's put us in a hole without a ladder. It's going to be a hard climb but they are going to have to at least make things interesting at first to get people involved and start to donate then they can slack off on items, events etc and do it the way we're currently doing it which is say we're going to suck unless you donate.

That being said, why don't they get someone to donate$1 to ole miss to get in their news letters just to see how it's done. They have it figured out it seems. We look lost. Again they were put in a hole and I'm sure they're doing stuff behind the scenes but all I've seen is hires. So we're paying former MS MS and whoever else but I'm not sure what for at this point. Seems that money could have been used on a player. She could be volunteering, no clue. No hate on her. I appreciate her but unless she's bringing in much more than her salary, we're wasting those dollars. It would be better spent on someone who had an idea how to fix this, hire former player that goes to a watch party in say Jackson and raise money to attend. I'm sure boobie would be all over this. Is he involved and why not if so

[TrapGame]

On Richard Cross's show they said Charlie was live on On3 last night and said after Saturday's loss NIL donations have INCREASED.

There was also a lot of speculation that if we won Saturday over Florida Lebby would be giving his impassioned "The fans need to give to NIL if they want more wins like this." speech.

[cheewgumm]

Here is how to do it:

1) Sign people up
2) Collect their money

The end.

I already do it, they signed me up quickly, easily.

I just think they are not focused on this and dont know the power of numbers. It just taked time and commitment.

When i heard Ole Miss had 5,000 people signed up, myy tought was "is that it?" That gave me hope. We cna get past that. Thats nothing.

[MoreCowbell]

Maybe I just have a defeatist attitude but even if 15,000 fans gave $20/month we would still be last in the conference. We are small and are already so far behind. A series of unfortunate events and terrible timing led to where we are and I just really do not see a way back. So I just do not think it would make a difference.

[TheLostDawg]

Here is how to do it:

1) Sign people up
2) Collect their money

The end.

I already do it, they signed me up quickly, easily.

I just think they are not focused on this and dont know the power of numbers. It just taked time and commitment.

When i heard Ole Miss had 5,000 people signed up, myy tought was "is that it?" That gave me hope. We cna get past that. Thats nothing.

Yeah I donated about a year and a half ago? Then when they revamped it about 9 months ago? I started giving monthly. I haven't heard anything since other than that one golf event.

I really hope they've just been working on things and are about to roll because I'm really disappointed so far. I'm willing to give more but just the lackluster of how things are going, I have no desire. I'm not thinking about giving more. I'm thinking about giving less and putting all the money I spend on tickets and nil towards something else.

[cheewgumm]

That would be $3.6 m.

We could buy a 3 good DL and QB with that.

It would help.

[confucius say]

Well, I'm with you guys. I don't understand how thousands of die hard fans can't give at least $20 bucks a month.

But I tell ya what. When I win one of those $400-$500 million dollar lotteries, I got y'all. I'll give Charlie a check for $150 million for NIL

Haha. Same.

[MoreCowbell]

That would be $3.6 m.

We could buy a 3 good DL and QB with that.

It would help.

That is nuts that is all 3 and a half mil could get us. We likely have to pay more than other schools to lure them to Starkville too

[Todd4State]

Here is how to do it:

1) Sign people up
2) Collect their money

The end.

I already do it, they signed me up quickly, easily.

I just think they are not focused on this and dont know the power of numbers. It just taked time and commitment.

When i heard Ole Miss had 5,000 people signed up, myy tought was "is that it?" That gave me hope. We cna get past that. Thats nothing.

Apparently Arkansas only has a 1000. Pretty sure we heard the same thing.

[Todd4State]

On Richard Cross's show they said Charlie was live on On3 last night and said after Saturday's loss NIL donations have INCREASED.

There was also a lot of speculation that if we won Saturday over Florida Lebby would be giving his impassioned "The fans need to give to NIL if they want more wins like this." speech.

Honestly, that doesn't totally surprise me. We need to keep it up!

[Todd4State]

That would be $3.6 m.

We could buy a 3 good DL and QB with that.

It would help.

I think we could get more than that with that much. I guess that gets into the territory of "OK we have this much how do we spend it?"

[Todd4State]

Well, I'm with you guys. I don't understand how thousands of die hard fans can't give at least $20 bucks a month.

But I tell ya what. When I win one of those $400-$500 million dollar lotteries, I got y'all. I'll give Charlie a check for $150 million for NIL

Our fans that are anti-NIL are going to end up donating whether they like it or not. It's just going to come in the form of an increase in their Bulldog Club donation and they won't even know it. And maybe a "talent tax" on tickets like Tennessee. Eventually anyway. And I think the Bulldog Initiative will continue to be around so that fans can direct where their money goes if they choose to.