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msstate7
09-14-2024, 08:05 PM
But we did. Fire everyone.

RezDog7
09-14-2024, 08:18 PM
This is way more than just coaching. All of these players are soft as baby shit. Not one is worth a damn cent of NIL, not one.

maroonmania
09-14-2024, 08:24 PM
Guess we should have just rehired Mullen.

Statecoachingblows**
09-14-2024, 08:36 PM
I initially regretted choosing my username, but it has withstood the test of time.

msstate7
09-14-2024, 08:38 PM
This is the worst coach we have ever hired (in my lifetime). This dude f'n sucks

schddog72
09-14-2024, 08:52 PM
This is the worst coach we have ever hired (in my lifetime). This dude f'n sucks

You obviously do not remember Charlie Shira. But I will say this, even this coach is human. He's not a miracle worker, especially in year one. As the old saying goes, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken do-do. Coach Lebby has a huge mountain to climb; an absolute dearth of talent in 'Vegas. Arnett didn't have a clue; he was dear in the headlights lost. Coach Lebby is not; give the man time!!

Coach34
09-14-2024, 09:07 PM
bullshit. Lebby is no better. We have much more offensive talent than last year

maroonmania
09-14-2024, 09:08 PM
This was always going to be a down year no matter the coach. Last year should have been an up year but Arnett blew it. But Lebby not being able to get an experienced DC that could bring a few players with him doomed any chance of being respectable this season.

maroonmania
09-14-2024, 09:10 PM
bullshit. Lebby is no better. We have much more offensive talent than last year

I agree that our offense being this bad with all the offensive acquisitions is very disappointing.

DownwardDawg
09-14-2024, 09:10 PM
This is the worst coach we have ever hired (in my lifetime). This dude f'n sucks

Several posters knew it was the wrong hire when we hired him.

Mjoelner34
09-14-2024, 09:13 PM
But we did. Fire everyone.

Arnett looked almost this bad with a veteran team.

maroonmania
09-14-2024, 09:20 PM
Arnett looked almost this bad with a veteran team.

Arnett had to go. Now whether Lebby is the right guy or not I don't know. Selmon just went with a guy he had an Oklahoma connection with. I don't even think we went through a true interview process. But with all the turnmoil in our program Lebby needs to get at least 3 years to have SOME stability. We can't keep changing staffs every year.

msstate7
09-14-2024, 09:23 PM
Arnett looked almost this bad with a veteran team.

I guess I missed us getting beat by 4 tds at home by a G5 team. Thanks for reminding me

Coach34
09-14-2024, 09:24 PM
I guess I missed us getting beat by 4 tds at home by a G5 team. Thanks for reminding me

To this point- Arnett > Lebby.

But its early

StarkVegasSteve
09-14-2024, 09:33 PM
Arnett had to go. Now whether Lebby is the right guy or not I don't know. Selmon just went with a guy he had an Oklahoma connection with. I don't even think we went through a true interview process. But with all the turnmoil in our program Lebby needs to get at least 3 years to have SOME stability. We can't keep changing staffs every year.

Lebby will have 3 years at least. I mean we have this same SEC schedule next year except flip the home and away. So we will probably be shit once again.

maroonmania
09-14-2024, 09:36 PM
To this point- Arnett > Lebby.

But its early

Barbay > Hutzler. At least Barbay had been a G5 OC for several years. Hutzler was a ridiculous hire. There were all kind of G5 DCs that would have taken our job. We don't have much defensive talent but we've compounded the problem with bad coaching.

Coursesuper
09-14-2024, 09:36 PM
Lebby will have 3 years at least. I mean we have this same SEC schedule next year except flip the home and away. So we will probably be shit once again.

Back to back 1 win seasons will be a joy.

dawgday166
09-14-2024, 09:41 PM
I'm ok with giving Lebby time but he needs for fire/hire some folks. Our S&C sucks. You'd never see this from a Mullen or Leach team. AND D rules ... over O. Gotta have D first.

Rawdawg
09-14-2024, 09:45 PM
We have to fundamentally change how we do everything football starting with the Bulldog Initiative.

CaptainObvious
09-14-2024, 09:45 PM
Guess we should have just rehired Mullen.

Pride probably kept both sides from even talking.

Mjoelner34
09-14-2024, 09:52 PM
I guess I missed us getting beat by 4 tds at home by a G5 team. Thanks for reminding me

Guess you forgot shitting the bed with a highly experienced team that won 9 games the year before.

Coach34
09-14-2024, 10:00 PM
Guess you forgot shitting the bed with a highly experienced team that won 9 games the year before.

Sr laden team refused change. It is what it is

BuckyIsAB****
09-14-2024, 10:01 PM
Sr laden team refused change. It is what it is

That is a blatant lie

msudawg1200
09-14-2024, 10:01 PM
Sr laden team refused change. It is what it is

Shouldn't have changed. It is what it is.

civildawg
09-14-2024, 10:02 PM
We should have hired Curt Cigniti. He has Indiana rolling in his first year

Matt3467
09-14-2024, 10:02 PM
bullshit. Lebby is no better. We have much more offensive talent than last year

It doesn't matter how good the QB and WRs are when the OL is garbage. The RBs are too except for maybe the third stringer.

Coach34
09-14-2024, 10:07 PM
That is a blatant lie

it is 100% what happened. We had zero buy in with the team in 2023 and it showed. Blatanley obvious

Coach34
09-14-2024, 10:08 PM
It doesn't matter how good the QB and WRs are when the OL is garbage. The RBs are too except for maybe the third stringer.

this OL is supposed to be better than last years

Apoplectic
09-14-2024, 10:09 PM
the proper hire would have been a successful head coach at a lower level. in the new era there are no training wheels or experiments

BuckyIsAB****
09-14-2024, 10:10 PM
it is 100% what happened. We had zero buy in with the team in 2023 and it showed. Blatanley obvious

Take a break brother. You don?t have to tote that water anymore. They are all fired. BP got what y?all wanted, revenge on Leach.

They lied. The kids knew it and lost all respect for them. That?s what happened. The team quit after the Kentucky loss and wasnt coming back to life till he was gone bc he came In the locker room after that game talking about all we needed was 2 more wins to save his job. Bookie Watson had an implosion and then the kids quit at A&M.

Todd4State
09-14-2024, 10:14 PM
We have to fundamentally change how we do everything football starting with the Bulldog Initiative.

We're going to have to overpay to get some players.

And we're going to need a new DC.

Coach34
09-14-2024, 10:15 PM
You are trash. Yes the team quit. We all saw it. There was no buy-in. It was old dudes wanting to keep things their way- not having to do something new

The WR's absolutely wanted no part of blocking. We saw it real time.

Todd4State
09-14-2024, 10:15 PM
Pride probably kept both sides from even talking.

**** Dan Mullen. He never wanted to be here. He left us. He's a TV guy. Probably not a coincidence that both programs he left had majors issues after he left either.

Todd4State
09-14-2024, 10:17 PM
Take a break brother. You don?t have to tote that water anymore. They are all fired. BP got what y?all wanted, revenge on Leach.

They lied. The kids knew it and lost all respect for them. That?s what happened. The team quit after the Kentucky loss and wasnt coming back to life till he was gone bc he came In the locker room after that game talking about all we needed was 2 more wins to save his job. Bookie Watson had an implosion and then the kids quit at A&M.

Yep. All of this. F U C K those boosters that did this to MSU and all of us.

Todd4State
09-14-2024, 10:19 PM
You are trash. Yes the team quit. We all saw it. There was no buy-in. It was old dudes wanting to keep things their way- not having to do something new

The WR's absolutely wanted no part of blocking. We saw it real time.

And how many times did you criticize Croom and Moorhead for not adapting to his personnel? Arnett and Barbay were no different.

dawgday166
09-14-2024, 10:20 PM
LOL ... Everyone still wanting to blame Leach in the NIL era. Leach or Mullen would win 6 to 8 every year with maybe a 5 win or 9 win season thrown in here or there. In this era or previous era. They know how to be HCs. They make players tough. They know how to create a good culture.

A lot of it is just talent and desire evaluation. Mullen and Leach can do that.

Leach may not do as well in NIL era, but he'd win 5 or 6 with this killer schedule ... and it is a killer schedule. We're looking at five 50+ pt losses if the best 5 on our schedule unleash on us. And we ain't winning an SEC game barring some miracle.

RezDog7
09-14-2024, 10:30 PM
Then what the **** do you call this?

Todd4State
09-14-2024, 10:31 PM
LOL ... Everyone still wanting to blame Leach in the NIL era. Leach or Mullen would win 6 to 8 every year with maybe a 5 win or 9 win season thrown in here or there. In this era or previous era. They know how to be HCs. They make players tough. They know how to create a good culture.

A lot of it is just talent and desire evaluation. Mullen and Leach can do that.

Leach may not do as well in NIL era, but he'd win 5 or 6 with this killer schedule ... and it is a killer schedule. We're looking at five 50+ pt losses if the best 5 on our schedule unleash on us. And we ain't winning an SEC game barring some miracle.

Also pretty much all of Leach's guys are gone on offense. And most on defense. It's a lot easier to reboot in the NIL era. We failed to do that last offseason.

Quaoarsking
09-14-2024, 11:30 PM
Arnett sucks and Lebby sucks.

But only one of them lost by 24 points to a G5 school while getting completely pushed around on both lines.

Rawdawg
09-14-2024, 11:41 PM
Also pretty much all of Leach's guys are gone on offense. And most on defense. It's a lot easier to reboot in the NIL era. We failed to do that last offseason.

We failed to do that the last two seasons. The reality is we are funding this current roster with NIL money. A lot of it. We have to evaluate better and we can?t pay guys just to fill out a roster. And yes we need to overpay for know commodities and stop trying to play moneyball because it has not worked in two cycles for us. We are lighting NIL funds on fire with this roster.

Coldsleeve Jr.
09-15-2024, 06:21 AM
Who would've thought a first time HC paired with a first time DC would struggle in the SEC

WinningIsRelentless
09-15-2024, 08:45 AM
Let?s look at it this way:
Had to buy a whole new ol
New Qb
A couple WR?s
Whole TE room
Whole interior DL
New Safeties
One Corner

And whoever decided to bring in Blanton needs to wear concrete shoes in the reservoir. Kid has zero business being on a sec team. To small plus to slow. The only stops we got last night was when he was on the bench.

At the end of the day it goes back to what Saban said week 1 on game day. If you spend 20 million on the wrong ones you are shit out of luck.

Bdawg
09-15-2024, 08:59 AM
It doesn't matter how good the QB and WRs are when the OL is garbage. The RBs are too except for maybe the third stringer.

This is the truth. They suck so bad there is no way this offense can get going if they don?t improve. I don?t see them running into each other in he back field so I assume they are going in the right direction. But they can?t block or move anyone. They are pathetic. So in turn, the O is pathetic.

Bdawg
09-15-2024, 09:01 AM
this OL is supposed to be better than last years

What?s your point? They aren?t.

msstate7
09-15-2024, 09:05 AM
What?s your point? They aren?t.

We should be. If they aren't, who is to blame?

bulldawg28
09-15-2024, 09:08 AM
We should be. If they aren't, who is to blame?

My boy coming in hot!!!!

Bdawg
09-15-2024, 09:11 AM
Let?s look at it this way:
Had to buy a whole new ol
New Qb
A couple WR?s
Whole TE room
Whole interior DL
New Safeties
One Corner

And whoever decided to bring in Blanton needs to wear concrete shoes in the reservoir. Kid has zero business being on a sec team. To small plus to slow. The only stops we got last night was when he was on the bench.

At the end of the day it goes back to what Saban said week 1 on game day. If you spend 20 million on the wrong ones you are shit out of luck.

Saban said right, once the portal closes, you got who ya got. And we got a pile of shit. Every kid out there thinks they deserve money and most don’t deserve a damn thing. It’s cost money just to fill a team out it seems. I don’t see but a handful on this team that needs something

Bdawg
09-15-2024, 09:21 AM
We should be. If they aren't, who is to blame?

The coaches. No doubt about it. I’m not saying it isn’t. I don’t know if they got who they really wanted or had to settle. NIL world absolutely sucks for us. Saw it coming when it first came out. I thought Pounders was a win but apparently not. The whole unit looks terrible. But if we fire every coach in year one, I can with 100% certainty be sure we will suck every year. Now I think a coach needs to show some type of improvement each year to the program to give you hope. Guess we will see, but in this now society, no one has the patience anymore.
Also, why should they be better? There are no guarantees the players you bring in will be better. You are just hoping they are.

DownwardDawg
09-15-2024, 09:45 AM
the proper hire would have been a successful head coach at a lower level. in the new era there are no training wheels or experiments

We had that option and outsmarted everyone by hiring a coordinator. Many of us knew we needed to hire a sitting Head Coach and we were chastised by this board for making our opinions known.

Quaoarsking
09-15-2024, 10:00 AM
We had that option and outsmarted everyone by hiring a coordinator. Many of us knew we needed to hire a sitting Head Coach and we were chastised by this board for making our opinions known.

Not only did our AD "outsmart everyone," he just hired his friend from his old job.

Homedawg
09-15-2024, 11:47 AM
We're going to have to overpay to get some players.

And we're going to need a new DC.

Better find some money.

WinningIsRelentless
09-15-2024, 11:48 AM
Better find some money.

We are probably better off taking the payout money for dc and using it to buy better players for a year. Then make a call on the dc.

Todd4State
09-15-2024, 12:29 PM
Better find some money.

Better find some people that can spend it better.

Pancho
09-15-2024, 12:29 PM
need another OL coach as bad as anything else. arky couldn't block for sh*t last year and now he is here..........

StateDawg44
09-15-2024, 12:46 PM
We are probably better off taking the payout money for dc and using it to buy better players for a year. Then make a call on the dc.

Would it not make more sense to make a call on DC and then let him get his players instead of having to work with this babbage and the previous DCs choices?

Mjoelner34
09-15-2024, 12:54 PM
need another OL coach as bad as anything else. arky couldn't block for sh*t last year and now he is here..........

Yep!

https://goheels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/randy-clements/4297

Pay him $800k and go get him!

Wink&aPrayer
09-15-2024, 12:56 PM
bullshit. Lebby is no better. We have much more offensive talent than last year

What HAS the world come to.

We Need a real coach w/exp.

BuckyIsAB****
09-15-2024, 06:50 PM
You are trash. Yes the team quit. We all saw it. There was no buy-in. It was old dudes wanting to keep things their way- not having to do something new

The WR's absolutely wanted no part of blocking. We saw it real time.

Dude do you think WRs didn?t block in the air raid? You are holding on to one play where tulu was lazy (yall blamed leach for him not getting the ball more, turns out there was a reason) and got a kid hurt. The yacht club and Keenum killed MS State football. Brag about that

BuckyIsAB****
09-15-2024, 06:52 PM
And it is absolutely hilarious to see that our best play in the showtime offense is four verticals. A leach standard. All we have done now is add a slow ass play fake to it

StarkVegasSteve
09-16-2024, 08:43 AM
You can blame Mullen, Moorhead, Leach, Arnett, Lebby, Brad Peterson, Steve Campbell, Will Friend, Kevin Barbay, Dave Emerick, Matt Dudek, Keenum, boosters, or whoever the hell else you want to blame and you would probably be right to a certain extent on each one of them. But everyone is missing who this blame should always fall at the feet of....John Cohen. He backstabbed a lot of people to get the AD job and then gutted the program of any hype the minute he walked in the door so he could move it all to baseball. Hell he hired a philanderer to be his replacement just so he could have a plan so he could get the AD job. Had he done any digging into Cannizarro's past that stuff would've come out. And I like Andy btw. Still do. Think he's a hell of a baseball coach and a hell of a recruiter. Not the best human, but a fun guy to have a few drinks with. He was late to NIL because he tried to make sure baseball had the only NIL. Hell he actively fought against the Bulldog Initiative until he realized that the baseball team would suffer if he didn't let it succeed. This guy single handedly tried to gut the athletic dept FOR 17 BASEBALL. A sport that runs at near deficit or deficit every year. I understand we have passionate baseball only fans, but even they know what pays the damn bills. John Cohen will go down as the worst AD of our time. And yes, that includes Larry Templeton.

Coursesuper
09-16-2024, 10:28 AM
You can blame Mullen, Moorhead, Leach, Arnett, Lebby, Brad Peterson, Steve Campbell, Will Friend, Kevin Barbay, Dave Emerick, Matt Dudek, Keenum, boosters, or whoever the hell else you want to blame and you would probably be right to a certain extent on each one of them. But everyone is missing who this blame should always fall at the feet of....John Cohen. He backstabbed a lot of people to get the AD job and then gutted the program of any hype the minute he walked in the door so he could move it all to baseball. Hell he hired a philanderer to be his replacement just so he could have a plan so he could get the AD job. Had he done any digging into Cannizarro's past that stuff would've come out. And I like Andy btw. Still do. Think he's a hell of a baseball coach and a hell of a recruiter. Not the best human, but a fun guy to have a few drinks with. He was late to NIL because he tried to make sure baseball had the only NIL. Hell he actively fought against the Bulldog Initiative until he realized that the baseball team would suffer if he didn't let it succeed. This guy single handedly tried to gut the athletic dept FOR 17 BASEBALL. A sport that runs at near deficit or deficit every year. I understand we have passionate baseball only fans, but even they know what pays the damn bills. John Cohen will go down as the worst AD of our time. And yes, that includes Larry Templeton.

YUP, amen and pass the Tylenol.

KB21
09-16-2024, 12:16 PM
But we did. Fire everyone.

We are paying now for the damage Arnett's dumbass did to this program.

Matt3467
09-16-2024, 12:40 PM
I remember someone saying we offered Dan more money to stay but he still left. I'm curious how much more we offered. We should've dang near let him name his price to stay here.

Cooterpoot
09-16-2024, 12:49 PM
I remember someone saying we offered Dan more money to stay but he still left. I'm curious how much more we offered. We should've dang near let him name his price to stay here.

We did basically tell him to name his price

StarkVegasSteve
09-16-2024, 01:04 PM
I remember someone saying we offered Dan more money to stay but he still left. I'm curious how much more we offered. We should've dang near let him name his price to stay here.

We offered to put him in the top 5 in terms of salary. He just did not want to work with Cohen. He told us in October of 17 that the 17 season would probably be his final year in Starkville. I mean people still get irrationally mad at Stricklin for "stealing" him from us. Hell he was going to Tennessee if Florida wouldn't have swooped in at the 11th hour. He had already talked with Peyton Manning on Tuesday of that week and had a meeting scheduled with Currie over the Thanksgiving weekend to iron out the details. I knew walking in to Davis Wade on that Thursday night of the Egg Bowl that Mullen was coaching his last game in Starkville.

Coach34
09-16-2024, 03:17 PM
We offered to put him in the top 5 in terms of salary. He just did not want to work with Cohen. He told us in October of 17 that the 17 season would probably be his final year in Starkville. I mean people still get irrationally mad at Stricklin for "stealing" him from us. Hell he was going to Tennessee if Florida wouldn't have swooped in at the 11th hour. .

This wasnt the case. Mullen and Cohen are actually big buddies.

Mullen was trying to leave Starkville the whole time he was here but especially after 2014 on.

Coach34
09-16-2024, 03:21 PM
Mullen talked to Tennessee twice, Miami twice, Minnesota, Maryland, and then finally Florida

StarkVegasSteve
09-16-2024, 03:26 PM
This wasnt the case. Mullen and Cohen are actually big buddies.

Mullen was trying to leave Starkville the whole time he was here but especially after 2014 on.

We'll agree to disagree on that one. They may respect each other and are cordial, but I don't think they are voluntarily ever hanging out with each other. You are right about Mullen trying to leave most years though. He was definitely especially active after 14. Actually thought he had the Miami job after the 15 season and I think the Maryland job was on the table that year or right around there as well. Was also heavily considering either the UCONN or Colorado job after 16 season.

I know he politicked hard for that Florida job each and every time it came open

Coach34
09-16-2024, 03:47 PM
We'll agree to disagree on that one. They may respect each other and are cordial, but I don't think they are voluntarily ever hanging out with each other. You are right about Mullen trying to leave most years though. He was definitely especially active after 14. Actually thought he had the Miami job after the 15 season and I think the Maryland job was on the table that year or right around there as well. Was also heavily considering either the UCONN or Colorado job after 16 season.

I know he politicked hard for that Florida job each and every time it came open

Foley absolutely did not want to hire Mullen. Not at all. I really wish I could have seen him having to tell the Cheerleader to call Mullen after they got turned down for the 5th time. It gave him a bad case of chapped ass

TrapGame
09-16-2024, 03:55 PM
Mullen talked to Tennessee twice, Miami twice, Minnesota, Maryland, and then finally Florida

And had it not been for Mark Richt swooping in to take the Miami job at the last minute Mullen would have had it.

TrapGame
09-16-2024, 03:58 PM
We'll agree to disagree on that one. They may respect each other and are cordial, but I don't think they are voluntarily ever hanging out with each other. You are right about Mullen trying to leave most years though. He was definitely especially active after 14. Actually thought he had the Miami job after the 15 season and I think the Maryland job was on the table that year or right around there as well. Was also heavily considering either the UCONN or Colorado job after 16 season.

I know he politicked hard for that Florida job each and every time it came open

I thought he and Cohen had a major dust up over the Country Club. Cohen wanted Hevesy and Billy G gone.

StarkVegasSteve
09-16-2024, 04:26 PM
I thought he and Cohen had a major dust up over the Country Club. Cohen wanted Hevesy and Billy G gone.

I never got that confirmed from anyone. I know there were more than a few people who wanted Billy gone. Hev was a huge jackass but he could develop OL like none other so he always was going to stay. And Hev's guys, the OL, LOVED HIM. They would've taken a bullet for him. Because he would've done the same for them. Now, if you weren't in that room or you were an outsider, he probably wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. I think that's why a lot of our fans didn't like him. He wouldn't BS with recruits. He would tell them what they were doing wrong. Also, he was quite prickly towards our fans.

Pancho
09-16-2024, 06:17 PM
we need another O line coach cut from the same cloth

Rawdawg
09-16-2024, 06:44 PM
We did basically tell him to name his price

Our biggest mistake was not leaking what we were offering and making it public knowledge. Make Dan publicly turn down a top 3 salary.

Cooterpoot
09-16-2024, 06:49 PM
Our biggest mistake was not leaking what we were offering and making it public knowledge. Make Dan publicly turn down a top 3 salary.

Well, we had dumbasses running things. They only cared about baseball.

Coach34
09-16-2024, 08:52 PM
And had it not been for Mark Richt swooping in to take the Miami job at the last minute Mullen would have had it.

haha yep and I laughed. Mullen had him and Manny headed to South Beach. Then Richt snaked and also took Manny. That hurt Mullen's feelings. Jackass

StarkVegasSteve
09-16-2024, 09:31 PM
we need another O line coach cut from the same cloth

No we just need to swallow our pride and call Hev. You just do not let him recruit off campus.

Turfdawg67
09-16-2024, 09:38 PM
I remember someone saying we offered Dan more money to stay but he still left. I'm curious how much more we offered. We should've dang near let him name his price to stay here.

Good lord, he wanted greener pastures to win a NC. He was rich and knew he couldn't do it at State so he left for UT, er... I mean UF (would've left for either... with his BEST State team returning). And don't bring up the fluke 2014 year... we were equally as bad at the end of the season as we were good at the beginning and mediocre in the middle.

And do yourself a favor and look through the archives of ED. You'll find that by 2016, the majority posting on here were ready to part with "Mr. win 4 OTC games and beat up on Vandy & UK". He was thought of as an underachiever with a "country club" coaching staff that hated recruiting. Oh, but revisionism is alive and well on ED.

ETA... "Good Lord" wasn't just meant for your post, but the plethora of one just like yours.

TrapGame
09-16-2024, 09:44 PM
No we just need to swallow our pride and call Hev. You just do not let him recruit off campus.

What's Hev doing now? I thought I heard he was coaching high school.

Coach34
09-16-2024, 10:14 PM
Hev was working at Home Depot last I saw

TrapGame
09-17-2024, 11:20 AM
Hev was working at Home Depot last I saw

Shit, I'd give him a call. Dude, can coach as well as he cusses.

Coach34
09-17-2024, 11:24 AM
Shit, I'd give him a call. Dude, can coach as well as he cusses.

Can you imagine walking up to him for something? "Hello Sir, what the **** do you want????"

StarkVegasSteve
09-17-2024, 11:28 AM
What's Hev doing now? I thought I heard he was coaching high school.

Hev is a team leader at a Lowes in Gainesville. I'm not kidding. We could call him and have him on a plane today and he'd be at practice tomorrow. He'd have more piss and vinegar and F bombs than any coach on staff. We'd also look like a completely different OL on Saturday.

Good story on Hev. After we played Florida here in 18, he gave a manager notes to give to each of our starting OL and guys that were playing of things they were doing wrong that he saw on film. He had those notes delivered on Sunday after the game. Joe and Marcus Johnson were pissed but started reading them and realized everything he was saying was 100% accurate.

TrapGame
09-17-2024, 11:29 AM
Can you imagine walking up to him for something? "Hello Sir, what the **** do you want????"

"You stupid mother****er! You don't know where ****ing the tile is?! It's on aisle three you sorry ass piece of ****ing shit!"

I bet he's Employee of the Month.

StarkVegasSteve
09-17-2024, 11:36 AM
"You stupid mother****er! You don't know where ****ing the tile is?! It's on aisle three you sorry ass piece of ****ing shit!"

I bet he's Employee of the Month.

"How 17 stupid can you be to not add the GD 10% 17 discount?!?!?" "You are a dumb POS!!!"


Alright that settles it, we need someone to go into that Lowes just to ask a stupid question.

gtowndawg
09-17-2024, 03:31 PM
For anyone that thinks this is a joke, it's not: Here's his Lowe's Profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hevesy-0b3632273)

TrapGame
09-17-2024, 03:40 PM
For anyone that thinks this is a joke, it's not: Here's his Lowe's Profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hevesy-0b3632273)

Seriously, this man needs to be coaching an O line. He needs a phone call.

DawgFromOxford
09-17-2024, 06:50 PM
Seriously, this man needs to be coaching an O line. He needs a phone call.

My guess is he just isn?t interested in coaching any more because there?s no reason he couldn?t have landed a job coaching O line somewhere if he really wanted to keep coaching.

Mjoelner34
09-17-2024, 08:11 PM
I still say go after the guy at UNC. He was O line coach at Baylor when Lebby was there and he was with Lebby in 2020 at Ole Miss so he knows this offense. Kiffin fired him and Lebby was pissed.

Coursesuper
09-18-2024, 07:18 AM
I still say go after the guy at UNC. He was O line coach at Baylor when Lebby was there and he was with Lebby in 2020 at Ole Miss so he knows this offense. Kiffin fired him and Lebby was pissed.

Does anyone here ever think. Why would that guy come here from XXXXX university? It's just not that easy.

Mjoelner34
09-18-2024, 08:27 AM
Does anyone here ever think. Why would that guy come here from XXXXX university? It's just not that easy.

1. He,s making $654k this year. Kennedy is making $700k and jumping to $800k next year. Offer him $800k. Money talks.
2. He has familiarity with Lebby and his system.
3. A closed mouth never gets fed.

Homedawg
09-18-2024, 08:46 AM
My guess is he just isn?t interested in coaching any more because there?s no reason he couldn?t have landed a job coaching O line somewhere if he really wanted to keep coaching.

Actually he was very interested in coaching. He didn't get an offer from anyone at any reasonable level of college coaching.

Coach34
09-19-2024, 08:47 AM
Seriously, this man needs to be coaching an O line. He needs a phone call.

At the very worst pay him 100K to be an offensive analyst. He may cuss at everybody in the building- but he does know what he's talking about

Cooterpoot
09-19-2024, 09:17 AM
At the very worst pay him 100K to be an offensive analyst. He may cuss at everybody in the building- but he does know what he's talking about

Analyst would be perfect but I'm not sure he's a fan of Starkville

Pancho
09-19-2024, 12:12 PM
EMCC has analysts who work remotely.......no reason in this day and age that it's not possible at this level