If this team is able to win 3 games?

[Coursesuper]

It will be the max

[BulldogBear]

It's the fact that we're not even competitive.

[Bothrops]

We can't live in the world of NIL and constant roster turnover. We're a one legged program.

[Ranchdawg]

We can't live in the world of NIL and constant roster turnover. We're a one legged program.

Don’t worry you aren’t allowed to say ANYTHING negative about NIL here because some punk ass will come and call you stupid, pearl clutcher, quitter MSU hater etc.

[basedog]

Ariz State has 60 new players, college football has changed so much and it will take time to adjust for most schools. Unfortunately, we seem to be close to the bottom of the Sec right now! I hope Lebby and this staff will improve fast over the next few years.

[msudawg1200]

Don’t worry you aren’t allowed to say ANYTHING negative about NIL here because some punk ass will come and call you stupid, pearl clutcher, quitter MSU hater etc.

You forgot boomer. Anyway, I hate this new world of college football. I hardly know any of our players. Hell, it's like that with all teams. I'll watch a game and see guys on new teams and say "What the hell? He was with Team A last year.". It sucks.Call me a boomer, idiot, loser, whatever, but it's making me turn back more to the NFL. Minor league football is no fun.

[Bdawg]

Ariz State has 60 new players, college football has changed so much and it will take time to adjust for most schools. Unfortunately, we seem to be close to the bottom of the Sec right now! I hope Lebby and this staff will improve fast over the next few years.

We?ve got people that can?t wait through second series of game 2, much less a few years!! LOL. It?s going to be miserable around here for a while. But any coach needs some time. Heck, look at ASU?s coach for example. It just hurts that we are competing in the recruiting/NIL world in the SEC. Bringing in Texas and Oklahoma only makes things worse for us. In this crazy world of everyone seemingly wanting ?equality,? we sure as hell ain?t getting it in college football, or at least something that resembles a fair playing field. This brand of college football is just gross.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I think most realistic posters knew that we were not going to have a good team. I’m proud of the fight with how they came back and never quit. The run D is definitely a huge concern. I still think we could beat Toledo, UF, UMass, but the other games look pretty difficult to win if we can’t beat ASU. Lebby kind of gets a pass from me this year based on the situation, but I will definitely expect improvement next year

[CaptainObvious]

There were times last night when Lebby looked like "I know we practiced on that multiple times. What the heck are y'all doing."

And then they would show Hutzler and his puzzled look "why are you 300 lb Dline men getting run slap over by that 215 lb RB!"

[Apoplectic]

i can?t name a single player on D - i?m a casual / saturday fan that the fan base needs

[EdwardDrayton]

We have to find a way to improve. If not Kiffin will be salivating and he will try to hang on us the worst beating in our history. And he'll do it with a grin.

[Apoplectic]

We have to find a way to improve. If not Kiffin will be salivating and he will try to hang on us the worst beating in our history. And he'll do it with a grin.

kiffin is not spending a min on us until the monday before the eggbowl - we are mtsu to him

[Offshore Dawg]

kiffin is not spending a min on us until the monday before the eggbowl - we are mtsu to him

So true, and neither is anybody else in the conference.

[redstickdawg]

I think most realistic posters knew that we were not going to have a good team. I’m proud of the fight with how they came back and never quit. The run D is definitely a huge concern. I still think we could beat Toledo, UF, UMass, but the other games look pretty difficult to win if we can’t beat ASU. Lebby kind of gets a pass from me this year based on the situation, but I will definitely expect improvement next year

I think that we get raped by every SEC team that we play including UF and 3 is the max this year. "good news" is that we will somehow prove Bert Stare wrong by allowing Napier to stay another year after crushing us and FSU.

[TrapGame]

Thanks to past coaching staffs lack of recruiting and our hesitation to fully embrace NIL we are in a hole. Lebby and Selmon are trying to get us out of that hole.

[EdwardDrayton]

kiffin is not spending a min on us until the monday before the eggbowl - we are mtsu to him

Hence the 'will be' future tense my man

[Wink&aPrayer]

Thanks to past coaching staffs lack of recruiting and our hesitation to fully embrace NIL we are in a hole. Lebby and Selmon are trying to get us out of that hole.

MSU football has been the victim of bad luck, but more, bad decisions

Between the 3 Stooges of: Cohen, Keenum, and Arnette...MSU football has been royally set back.
The DC is not good. If someone asked me on the street who's State's DC, I'd be clueless.
Next season starts Dec 1 2024 hopefully we can find a DC who changes schemes w/the game and find big uglies who aren't soft

[basedog]

Kentucky isn’t good either.

[Bothrops]

Kentucky isn’t good either.

Kentucky is Croomesque on offense. We would beat them.

[Bothrops]

I think that we get raped by every SEC team that we play including UF and 3 is the max this year. "good news" is that we will somehow prove Bert Stare wrong by allowing Napier to stay another year after crushing us and FSU.

Florida has changed qb's and Lagway has made them instantly better than us. They just needed a qb and now they have one.

[War Machine Dawg]

Kentucky is Croomesque on offense. We would beat them.

Our defense is Sirmonesque. Unless we outscore them, that's an L. You just watched us get embarrassed by a garbage B12 OL and handled by EKU's OL. But you've got us beating UK? Barring major improvement, 3-9 is the ceiling this year.

[PMDawg]

We?ve got people that can?t wait through second series of game 2, much less a few years!! LOL. It?s going to be miserable around here for a while. But any coach needs some time. Heck, look at ASU?s coach for example. It just hurts that we are competing in the recruiting/NIL world in the SEC. Bringing in Texas and Oklahoma only makes things worse for us. In this crazy world of everyone seemingly wanting ?equality,? we sure as hell ain?t getting it in college football, or at least something that resembles a fair playing field. This brand of college football is just gross.

I can be realistic between games. I know this year is a throw away. Sucks, bc Shapen and the WRs are actually really good. But I can't be rational during a game. Losing sucks and watching dumb mistakes and getting beat down makes me angry and irrational. I can't help it. I even said Shapen sucks after the scoop and score. He's actually pretty great, but that was just a dumb and horrible play.

[Bothrops]

Our defense is Sirmonesque. Unless we outscore them, that's an L. You just watched us get embarrassed by a garbage B12 OL and handled by EKU's OL. But you've got us beating UK? Barring major improvement, 3-9 is the ceiling this year.

We could absolutely beat Kentucky. They are terrible. I watched their game btw.

[Cooterpoot]

We'll easily win 3 OOC games. After that we need some help. We've got problems with the whole damn defense and the OLine and RBs are good.

[Bdawg]

I can be realistic between games. I know this year is a throw away. Sucks, bc Shapen and the WRs are actually really good. But I can't be rational during a game. Losing sucks and watching dumb mistakes and getting beat down makes me angry and irrational. I can't help it. I even said Shapen sucks after the scoop and score. He's actually pretty great, but that was just a dumb and horrible play.

Oh my emotions get to me too during the game, but that’s what fans do. And yes, that Shapen play was terrible. Just eat it. May have cost us the game. But when the game is over we all have to understand that our team is not very good at the moment and it’s going to take some time. I hope we got the right coach because we need stability just about more than anything. He has a pedigree and some pretty sharp offensive minds in his family to lean on. Let’s hope it pays off. OM found their “Mullen” have done what it takes to keep him. Stability has payed off for them nicely right now.