What are our realistic expectations

[Todd4State]

For the offense this year? Strictly PPG can we average 30 PPG? I'm not too worried about yards because that can be a misleading stat.

I think we can average somewhere between 32-34 PPG and around 28 PPG in SEC play.

If our defense can average 28 PPG which is not impressive we should win some games this year.

[confucius say]

I think 24-25 per game in sec play.

[mparkerfd20]

27-31 in SEC. 37-41 in non conference. We go anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4. I think we go 7-5 and bowling regardless. I think people are sleeping on this team simply from the unknowns with a new coach and a DC nobody knows. We have talent.

[Leroy Jenkins]

It's hard for me to say. I subconsciously over-estimate our guys because of familiarity and homerisim. So I have to factor that.

[Todd4State]

27-31 in SEC. 37-41 in non conference. We go anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4. I think we go 7-5 and bowling regardless. I think people are sleeping on this team simply from the unknowns with a new coach and a DC nobody knows. We have talent.

I agree 100%. Plus I think a lot of people are scarred from Arnett. I don't think the last staff was able to maximize the talent we had that is coming back so some guys are probably better than we realize like John Lewis for example.

[Offshore Dawg]

Hopefully we well get to see what the Dawgs can do with what should be a real coaching staff.

[MoreCowbell]

27-31 in SEC. 37-41 in non conference. We go anywhere from 6-6 to 8-4. I think we go 7-5 and bowling regardless. I think people are sleeping on this team simply from the unknowns with a new coach and a DC nobody knows. We have talent.

If we win 6 or more games with this roster go ahead and offer Lebby a lifetime contract

[Choctaw Dawg]

5-7 or 6-6

I got burnt being excited for the first years of the Moorhead and the Arnett tenures only to be sorely disappointed. I'm purely wait and see with Lebby.

[EdwardDrayton]

Will be back here to answer this after the third game.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

We don't play Bama this year so the average automatically goes up.

[confucius say]

I'd be interested to see our ppg in sec play the last ten years

[confucius say]

2014. 33.75 in sec play.
2015. 26.25 in sec play.
2016. 29.25 in sec play.
2017. 26.25 in sec play.

2018. 19.25 in sec play. Geez Joe.
2019. 23.25 in sec play.

2020. 20.7 in sec play.
2021. 28.5 in sec play.
2022. 25.375 in sec play.

2023. 12.625 in sec play. My word.

[RockyDog]

If we win 6 or more games with this roster go ahead and offer Lebby a lifetime contract

That is part of what is wrong historically with MSU. Our fans fall so in love with a coach that they equate a few winning seasons to lifetime security. With Jackie, things started going off the rails and we continued to give him more seasons to see if it would change. Same with Polk 2 and Bury. Fans get all emotional and it makes moving on a much bigger challenge than it needs to be.

We also have a segment of the fan base that thinks "the media" is gonna be mad with big ol MSU if we fire a coach. Most sane fans knew after season 2 of Crooms that it wasn?t gonna work yet we let that clown stick around for 5 seasons and even spelled out his damn name with the band after an exhilarating 10-3 pounding of mighty UCF.

MSU fans have got to stop with this way of thinking. College football is a business. Coaches are burning out and retiring younger and younger, so the odds of having a coach stick around 5 or more seasons is drastically less than it was in the last several decades. What you really need to concentrate on is making sure that you continue to employ ADs that have a sack and are willing to make big boy decisions

[StarkVegasSteve]

In Lebby's last 4 years as an OC his offenses have averaged around 35PPG. I'd expect us to be somewhere between 25-28 in conference play and 35-40 in non con. That should be good enough for 6-6

[Goldendawg]

6-6 floor and 7-5 ceiling. OOC is usual cupcakes. We are not the only SEC team rebuilding through the portal or coming off a bad/mediocre year. Coaches that can turn 40 or even more portal individuals into a team quickly will be successful nationwide and I think Lebby knows how to play this new game. Mark me excited! Hail State!

[deltadawg63]

That is part of what is wrong historically with MSU. Our fans fall so in love with a coach that they equate a few winning seasons to lifetime security. With Jackie, things started going off the rails and we continued to give him more seasons to see if it would change. Same with Polk 2 and Bury. Fans get all emotional and it makes moving on a much bigger challenge than it needs to be.

We also have a segment of the fan base that thinks "the media" is gonna be mad with big ol MSU if we fire a coach. Most sane fans knew after season 2 of Crooms that it wasn?t gonna work yet we let that clown stick around for 5 seasons and even spelled out his damn name with the band after an exhilarating 10-3 pounding of mighty UCF.

MSU fans have got to stop with this way of thinking. College football is a business. Coaches are burning out and retiring younger and younger, so the odds of having a coach stick around 5 or more seasons is drastically less than it was in the last several decades. What you really need to concentrate on is making sure that you continue to employ ADs that have a sack and are willing to make big boy decisions

In the past, we have leaned upon and attempted to use "stability" as a strength and sometimes we confused stability with consistency. I think our current leadership has transitioned us to a much more sound business model and we do realize that it is more a business than ever before. But we also have to realize and identify "what is success" relatively at MSU. I long supported Dan and Rick because I still believe that they represented good success at MSU and, frankly, part of our football program and challenge at present is due to coaching instability over the last 6 seasons. Fans have to realize that we have to take chances on finding that up and rising football coach and if he has success, work to hold him as long as possible and then not be bothered if he leaves but left us having been successful (winning seasons, bowls, competing with peers-OM, UK, Arkansas, USCe).

[confucius say]

In Lebby's last 4 years as an OC his offenses have averaged around 35PPG. I'd expect us to be somewhere between 25-28 in conference play and 35-40 in non con. That should be good enough for 6-6

Any marked improvement from year 1 to year 2 at Mississippi and Oklahoma?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Any marked improvement from year 1 to year 2 at Mississippi and Oklahoma?

Actually went down about a TD per game from year 1 to year 2 at OM, but went up almost 10 pts from year 1 to year 2 at OU

[confucius say]

2014. 33.75 in sec play.
2015. 26.25 in sec play.
2016. 29.25 in sec play.
2017. 26.25 in sec play.

2018. 19.25 in sec play. Geez Joe.
2019. 23.25 in sec play.

2020. 20.7 in sec play.
2021. 28.5 in sec play.
2022. 25.375 in sec play.

2023. 12.625 in sec play. My word.

Looking at this, 28 per game in sec play would be good.

[Coach34]

My biggest concern is that yeah- we will play fast and have some guys on offense. Offense has been totally rebuilt from 2 years ago when it was Airbone. But:

We dont have the dudes defensively. By playing fast we are going to make our defense play more plays. We'll get worn down. We'll get injured. We'll have guys playing on D that just arent mid-level or better SEC guys in the 4th Q. The worry is alot of late collapses or pull aways in games.

[confucius say]

My biggest concern is that yeah- we will play fast and have some guys on offense. Offense has been totally rebuilt from 2 years ago when it was Airbone. But:

We dont have the dudes defensively. By playing fast we are going to make our defense play more plays. We'll get worn down. We'll get injured. We'll have guys playing on D that just arent mid-level or better SEC guys in the 4th Q. The worry is alot of late collapses or pull aways in games.

Yep. Better outscore people.

[BorneDawg]

6-6 floor and 7-5 ceiling. OOC is usual cupcakes. We are not the only SEC team rebuilding through the portal or coming off a bad/mediocre year. Coaches that can turn 40 or even more portal individuals into a team quickly will be successful nationwide and I think Lebby knows how to play this new game. Mark me excited! Hail State!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Goldendawg again.

[99jc]

That is part of what is wrong historically with MSU. Our fans fall so in love with a coach that they equate a few winning seasons to lifetime security. With Jackie, things started going off the rails and we continued to give him more seasons to see if it would change. Same with Polk 2 and Bury. Fans get all emotional and it makes moving on a much bigger challenge than it needs to be.

We also have a segment of the fan base that thinks "the media" is gonna be mad with big ol MSU if we fire a coach. Most sane fans knew after season 2 of Crooms that it wasn?t gonna work yet we let that clown stick around for 5 seasons and even spelled out his damn name with the band after an exhilarating 10-3 pounding of mighty UCF.

MSU fans have got to stop with this way of thinking. College football is a business. Coaches are burning out and retiring younger and younger, so the odds of having a coach stick around 5 or more seasons is drastically less than it was in the last several decades. What you really need to concentrate on is making sure that you continue to employ ADs that have a sack and are willing to make big boy decisions

I actually agree with you. I never Liked Jackie and never will.

[hailmari]

I?m a little gun shy on predictions this year due to being too optimistic last year and because I remember how our last up and comer offensive genius HC hire went. With that said, last year?s sorry af team won 5, and I refuse to believe we?ll be worse this year. Average 33ppg and just have an okay defense, we will hit 6 or 7 wins.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I?m a little gun shy on predictions this year due to being too optimistic last year and because I remember how our last up and comer offensive genius HC hire went. With that said, last year?s sorry af team won 5, and I refuse to believe we?ll be worse this year. Average 33ppg and just have an okay defense, we will hit 6 or 7 wins.

So just avg 33 ppg, which would've been good for 3rd in the conference last year, with a much tougher schedule. Going to be a hell of a lot tougher than it sounds. Doable? Maybe. But far from any type of certainty

[parabrave]

With Transfer portal no one really knows/

[somebodyshotmypaw]

My biggest concern is that yeah- we will play fast and have some guys on offense. Offense has been totally rebuilt from 2 years ago when it was Airbone. But:

We dont have the dudes defensively. By playing fast we are going to make our defense play more plays. We'll get worn down. We'll get injured. We'll have guys playing on D that just arent mid-level or better SEC guys in the 4th Q. The worry is alot of late collapses or pull aways in games.

I agree. Leach threw the ball, but it was still ball control and a slow offensive tempo which allowed the D to rest. If Lebby plays tempo, you can put the D back on the field quickly.

[DEDawg]

I?m a little gun shy on predictions this year due to being too optimistic last year and because I remember how our last up and comer offensive genius HC hire went. With that said, last year?s sorry af team won 5, and I refuse to believe we?ll be worse this year. Average 33ppg and just have an okay defense, we will hit 6 or 7 wins.
Do you realize how hard it will be to avg 33? I think 26-28 range is realistic

[MoreCowbell]

That is part of what is wrong historically with MSU. Our fans fall so in love with a coach that they equate a few winning seasons to lifetime security. With Jackie, things started going off the rails and we continued to give him more seasons to see if it would change. Same with Polk 2 and Bury. Fans get all emotional and it makes moving on a much bigger challenge than it needs to be.

We also have a segment of the fan base that thinks "the media" is gonna be mad with big ol MSU if we fire a coach. Most sane fans knew after season 2 of Crooms that it wasn?t gonna work yet we let that clown stick around for 5 seasons and even spelled out his damn name with the band after an exhilarating 10-3 pounding of mighty UCF.

MSU fans have got to stop with this way of thinking. College football is a business. Coaches are burning out and retiring younger and younger, so the odds of having a coach stick around 5 or more seasons is drastically less than it was in the last several decades. What you really need to concentrate on is making sure that you continue to employ ADs that have a sack and are willing to make big boy decisions

I agree with you, not sure what it has to do with my comment though. I thought it was obvious tounge in cheek because 7-8 wins is a pipe dream for this year.

[Todd4State]

My biggest concern is that yeah- we will play fast and have some guys on offense. Offense has been totally rebuilt from 2 years ago when it was Airbone. But:

We dont have the dudes defensively. By playing fast we are going to make our defense play more plays. We'll get worn down. We'll get injured. We'll have guys playing on D that just arent mid-level or better SEC guys in the 4th Q. The worry is alot of late collapses or pull aways in games.

The thing is we don't always have to play at Nascar speed. If we have a lead I'm sure we'll slow it down some and run the ball late.

That was Ole Miss's game plan for years. Strike quick and fast and build a 14-21 point lead. And then try to build on to the lead as much as you can and hold on for dear life. As you know teams can get out of sorts if they get down quickly.

And I'm not saying you're wrong. I remember Ole Miss/LSU 2022 where Ole Miss got out to like a 21 point lead I think it was and then ended up getting completely blown out. I think they even led at halftime. The thing about that is though even if you lose, losing 56-28 seems to create a perception that you are a better team than had you lost 56-7. The reality is LSU was at home, had superior talent- they just had to adjust after they got punched in the face. Sometimes Ole Miss holds on for dear life and it goes their way too.

I know when Lebby was at Oklahoma they got into several shootouts because their defense wasn't all that great. So it's something he is used to dealing with.

[BuckyIsAB****]

The secondary is the biggest surprise of camp so far.

Mario Craver is going to be a name for everyone knows by the bye week

[SPDawgs]

Word from camp is that offense is looking terrible because the quarterbacks can't complete a pass. Have a buddy that works closely with the team and he said Weir who I am not even sure is on scholarship was the only QB completing even simple passes. I am hoping that it is just early and they are getting the scheme together but that for sure does not sound promising.

[CaptainObvious]

There is a rumor that he has recruited the male cheerleaders to lift out receivers like they do the female cheerleaders so they can catch the passes being thrown their way.

[Brobi-wan]

The secondary is the biggest surprise of camp so far.

Mario Craver is going to be a name for everyone knows by the bye week

Good surprise or bad surprise?

[CaptainObvious]

Good surprise or bad surprise?

Ha! Success by this secondary means the offense sucks in the passing game. Unless you mean the secondary is making great tackles 15 yards downfield.

Added since this is about predictions

16-0 with our first Football NC since 1941!!!!

[confucius say]

The secondary is the biggest surprise of camp so far.

Mario Craver is going to be a name for everyone knows by the bye week

That could also mean our passing game sucks...
Sorry for the negativity

[maroonmania]

Word from camp is that offense is looking terrible because the quarterbacks can't complete a pass. Have a buddy that works closely with the team and he said Weir who I am not even sure is on scholarship was the only QB completing even simple passes. I am hoping that it is just early and they are getting the scheme together but that for sure does not sound promising.

Shapen looked pretty accurate and smooth during the Spring game. Have we regressed that much in 4 months?

[TrapGame]

Word from camp is that offense is looking terrible because the quarterbacks can't complete a pass. Have a buddy that works closely with the team and he said Weir who I am not even sure is on scholarship was the only QB completing even simple passes. I am hoping that it is just early and they are getting the scheme together but that for sure does not sound promising.

Having watched the spring game I do not believe a word of that.

Rosebowl says we will have some surprises. Defense not as bad as everything thinks. He never mentioned anything about an offensive cluster**** going on. He said 6-6 is a real possibility but everyone needs to tone down the 8-4 or better talk on some of the message boards.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Having watched the spring game I do not believe a word of that.

Rosebowl says we will have some surprises. Defense not as bad as everything thinks. He never mentioned anything about an offensive cluster**** going on. He said 6-6 is a real possibility but everyone needs to tone down the 8-4 or better talk on some of the message boards.

If we win 8 games then Lebby will be the UNQUESTIONED SEC coach of the year and probably national coach of the year. It would also mean Shapen stayed healthy and played out of his mind.

[maroonmania]

If we win 8 games then Lebby will be the UNQUESTIONED SEC coach of the year and probably national coach of the year. It would also mean Shapen stayed healthy and played out of his mind.

Agree, even if we win every game we play against unranked teams we would only be 6-6. All of other 6 opponents are in the Top 20 of the AFCA Coaches preseason poll.

[TrapGame]

Agree, even if we win every game we play against unranked teams we would only be 6-6. All of other 6 opponents are in the Top 20 of the AFCA Coaches preseason poll.

Everyone should be pleased with 6-6 with a first year head coach and this schedule.

[Coach34]

Unless we lose to Arizona State- barring some big injury to Shapen- the Florida game should tell us who we will be this year.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Good surprise for the DBs

[confucius say]

Agree, even if we win every game we play against unranked teams we would only be 6-6. All of other 6 opponents are in the Top 20 of the AFCA Coaches preseason poll.

And Florida is top 25 in all the power rankings. Their schedule is just brutal. Only schedule in the conference rated harder than ours per 247

[StarkVegasSteve]

Unless we lose to Arizona State- barring some big injury to Shapen- the Florida game should tell us who we will be this year.

Agreed. We win that game and we got a chance. Lose that one? You're probably looking at 5-7 best case. Which again, if we at least look good and are fun to watch, I would be able to get over.

[CaptainObvious]

If the board discussion Monday morning is about basketball, we will know.

[Activated Alpha]

If the board discussion Monday morning is about basketball, we will know.

Hell before Jans, I would think of baseball on Monday mornings. The Rick Ray years burned my bridge for nearly a decade

[LC Dawg]

Last year our head coach and coordinators had no or little experience and we had a new offensive system. We hoped the number of experienced players returning would help us.
This year is the same except we don't have the returning players.
I think Lebby will be a better head coach than Arnett but it's still his first year and he'll also be calling plays.
I think 3-9 is the floor and 6-6 is the ceiling.

[Bothrops]

The Florida game could decide Napier's fate. It will be interesting to see if this Lebby team will carry on our tradition of brand intimidation psychosis. If we don't display it, this will be a very close game, and we could come out on top. If there's any other benefit from having new faces from the portal, this could be it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The Florida game could decide Napier's fate. It will be interesting to see if this Lebby team will carry on our tradition of brand intimidation psychosis. If we don't display it, this will be a very close game, and we could come out on top. If there's any other benefit from having new faces from the portal, this could be it.

I was actually thinking about this last night. Will we have anyone on offense outside of Whittemore and Pittman(if he can get on the field) that contributed any last year? I mean I know Moseley and Walley had a few catches, but no one that really did anything of value for us returns. Will definitely be different to see. Not opposed to it either with how putrid we were offensively last year.

[Dawgology]

Napier could get Lebbied.

With that said…nATiONAL CHaMPounShip or fAAaAr LeBby!!!!***. lol

[Coach34]

Florida could also be 3-0 heading to Sville as their 1st 3 are at home. They are not devoid of talent

[Todd4State]

I was actually thinking about this last night. Will we have anyone on offense outside of Whittemore and Pittman(if he can get on the field) that contributed any last year? I mean I know Moseley and Walley had a few catches, but no one that really did anything of value for us returns. Will definitely be different to see. Not opposed to it either with how putrid we were offensively last year.

The program needed a reboot. Obviously should have happened after Leach passed away. Somehow MSU not only didn't learn from the Moorhead debacle- they somehow one upped themselves and made it a worse situation.

[Todd4State]

Florida could also be 3-0 heading to Sville as their 1st 3 are at home. They are not devoid of talent

If they are 3-0 they are probably a lot better than people think they will be because two of those first three are against Miami and Texas A&M.

I think 3-0 is possible. But I also think that 2-1 or 1-2 is also possible as well.

[Pancho]

If the gators come to starkville 1-2, it'll be a game of epic proportions. On the other hand, Napier could somehow beat both Miami and A&M and come to starkville breathing easy and overlook Lebby and the Dogs.

[confucius say]

Florida could also be 3-0 heading to Sville as their 1st 3 are at home. They are not devoid of talent

Agree. A lot of the metrics are high on them. They are power rated 21st in the country.
Miami is at 19, so that week 1 game is huge.
Miami over under win total is 9.5!
Whichever coach loses that game week 1 will be on the hot seat

[StarkVegasSteve]

If the gators come to starkville 1-2, it'll be a game of epic proportions. On the other hand, Napier could somehow beat both Miami and A&M and come to starkville breathing easy and overlook Lebby and the Dogs.

Barring Napier rolling off 9-10 wins, they are going to fire him. Florida fans, along with Auburn, are the most irrational fan bases BY A MILE. They continue to compare themselves to Bama when they're not. They're both on coach number 5 since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa and have 1 national championship and another appearance between the two programs with ZERO playoff appearances and two NY6 bowls.

They'll fire Napier because that's what they do. Napier isn't the problem, just like Dan wasn't the problem. The problem is boosters, fans, Foley, and Spurrier. The last two have FAR too much influence and the opinions of the first two matter FAR more than they should.

[Coach34]

Barring Napier rolling off 9-10 wins, they are going to fire him. Florida fans, along with Auburn, are the most irrational fan bases BY A MILE. They continue to compare themselves to Bama when they're not. They're both on coach number 5 since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa and have 1 national championship and another appearance between the two programs with ZERO playoff appearances and two NY6 bowls.

They'll fire Napier because that's what they do. Napier isn't the problem, just like Dan wasn't the problem. The problem is boosters, fans, Foley, and Spurrier. The last two have FAR too much influence and the opinions of the first two matter FAR more than they should.

Nailed it

Fla's start to the season is crucial for Sunbelt Billy. He wont hold anything back against Miami. He needs that one badly. A&M has alot of talent also- but again- Fla is at home and A&M is totally new systems. Crucial games for both teams right there. 3-0 wouldnt surprise but neither would 1-2

[Dawgface]

The Florida game could decide Napier's fate. It will be interesting to see if this Lebby team will carry on our tradition of brand intimidation psychosis. If we don't display it, this will be a very close game, and we could come out on top. If there's any other benefit from having new faces from the portal, this could be it.

If FL loses our game they will be in deep shat. They will be up for it knowing it is a must win. But if we can pull it off it gives us a little hope.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If FL loses our game they will be in deep shat. They will be up for it knowing it is a must win. But if we can pull it off it gives us a little hope.

You win the FL game and the path to 6 wins becomes a lot easier to chart. You lose.....you need an upset somewhere.

[CaptainObvious]

Test

[BrunswickDawg]

Barring Napier rolling off 9-10 wins, they are going to fire him. Florida fans, along with Auburn, are the most irrational fan bases BY A MILE. They continue to compare themselves to Bama when they're not. They're both on coach number 5 since Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa and have 1 national championship and another appearance between the two programs with ZERO playoff appearances and two NY6 bowls.

They'll fire Napier because that's what they do. Napier isn't the problem, just like Dan wasn't the problem. The problem is boosters, fans, Foley, and Spurrier. The last two have FAR too much influence and the opinions of the first two matter FAR more than they should.

While I don't disagree with your points - I do have to note that while Auburn and UF are on coach #5 since Saban - we are on coach #6.

[StarkVegasSteve]

While I don't disagree with your points - I do have to note that while Auburn and UF are on coach #5 since Saban - we are on coach #6.

Not wrong. Although Leach's passing caused us to panic hire Arnett and then we had to fire him so that's 2 addt HCs to our number.I actually did some digging and the numbers are insane. Just the amount of coaches every school has had since Saban got to Bama

Arky-6
Auburn-5
LSU-3
OM-5
State-6
A&M(didn't join til 2012 so starting there)-3
Georgia-2
Florida-5
Tennessee-6
Mizzou(didn't join until 2012 so starting there)-3
Vandy-5
USCe-3
Kentucky-3

[confucius say]

Not wrong. Although Leach's passing caused us to panic hire Arnett and then we had to fire him so that's 2 addt HCs to our number.I actually did some digging and the numbers are insane. Just the amount of coaches every school has had since Saban got to Bama

Arky-6
Auburn-5
LSU-3
OM-5
State-6
A&M(didn't join til 2012 so starting there)-3
Georgia-2
Florida-5
Tennessee-6
Mizzou(didn't join until 2012 so starting there)-3
Vandy-5
USCe-3
Kentucky-3

Think we are the only P4 team with 5 coaches in last 8 seasons. It's a wonder we've only missed 1 bowl game in that time (2024 tbd)

[StarkVegasSteve]

Think we are the only P4 team with 5 coaches in last 8 seasons. It's a wonder we've only missed 1 bowl game in that time (2024 tbd)

We've mostly been lucky though. I mean 2020 would've been a missed bowl but everyone made a bowl that played that year. We also have had coaches leave with pretty good pieces. I mean Mullen left Moorhead a stacked D. Moorhead left Leach some pretty good skill players and Leach left Arnett some pretty good skill players, that he misused or didn't use. This year is the first time I can remember basically having a completely new cast of unknown players.

[Todd4State]

We've mostly been lucky though. I mean 2020 would've been a missed bowl but everyone made a bowl that played that year. We also have had coaches leave with pretty good pieces. I mean Mullen left Moorhead a stacked D. Moorhead left Leach some pretty good skill players and Leach left Arnett some pretty good skill players, that he misused or didn't use. This year is the first time I can remember basically having a completely new cast of unknown players.

For some reason MSU likes to hire coaches that like to the complete opposite of whatever the last coach did.

And as a result the team that was built by the previous coach never fits what the new coach wants to do. That's just a recipe for disaster.

Like we went from Air Raid to Iowa with some random jet sweeps with Air Raid personnel in one offseason.

I'm actually glad that Lebby purged the team and got his own players in. It may not work out much better- we'll see. But I bet it's a lot more cohesive on offense this year than most year ones.