Baseball roster decrease, scholarship increase

[TheLostDawg]

Sorry if this has already been discussed and I missed it. I just saw the discussion on football.

What are yall's thoughts on this? Pretty one sided on football scholarship increase will hurt us but will one decrease in roster spots hurt us as well? Not sure why they did this especially when you lose so many pitches pitchers each year.

[HoopsDawg]

Sorry if this has already been discussed and I missed it. I just saw the discussion on football.

What are yall's thoughts on this? Pretty one sided on football scholarship increase will hurt us but will one decrease in roster spots hurt us as well? Not sure why they did this especially when you lose so many pitches pitchers each year.

Baseball is all positive in my eyes. Before Covid, the roster limit was 35 so I don't see 34 as a big deal. The interesting question is when do you have to be at 34, before the fall or after.

If it's before the fall, recruiting is going to drastically change for a few schools like UT and Arkansas who bring in 50 guys for the fall.

[Homedawg]

Baseball is all positive in my eyes. Before Covid, the roster limit was 35 so I don't see 34 as a big deal. The interesting question is when do you have to be at 34, before the fall or after.

If it's before the fall, recruiting is going to drastically change for a few schools like UT and Arkansas who bring in 50 guys for the fall.

It's got to be before the fall. Don't see any other way around it.

[Todd4State]

Really good for Mississippi State baseball. It makes our NIL stronger because some of our players in the past had to use some or all of NIL for tuition. We've lost recruiting battles before because of scholarship money- see Vanderbilt and LSU. Will help us retain players more often because a lot of times what would happen is a junior would essentially become a walk-on so we could offer more scholarship money to a prospect.

It is going to place a premium on evaluation and development because as Homedawg said they will make us set the roster in the fall. That means we have to make sure the players we have can contribute or they become a dead spot on the roster. We can't bring in 55 and then figure it out.

Recruiting classes are going to be smaller too going forward. Probably between 9-12 players if I had to guess. Probably won't see very many Tanner Leggett's coming to MSU going forward unless they kill it at USM or Memphis.

The only thing is I wish they had an option to add players to the roster if a current player gets injured. I also wish the roster was 36-40 but what we have going forward is a vast improvement.

[basedog]

Really good for Mississippi State baseball. It makes our NIL stronger because some of our players in the past had to use some or all of NIL for tuition. We've lost recruiting battles before because of scholarship money- see Vanderbilt and LSU. Will help us retain players more often because a lot of times what would happen is a junior would essentially become a walk-on so we could offer more scholarship money to a prospect.

It is going to place a premium on evaluation and development because as Homedawg said they will make us set the roster in the fall. That means we have to make sure the players we have can contribute or they become a dead spot on the roster. We can't bring in 55 and then figure it out.

Recruiting classes are going to be smaller too going forward. Probably between 9-12 players if I had to guess. Probably won't see very many Tanner Leggett's coming to MSU going forward unless they kill it at USM or Memphis.

The only thing is I wish they had an option to add players to the roster if a current player gets injured. I also wish the roster was 36-40 but what we have going forward is a vast improvement.

I think it helps us as well moving forward.

[Todd4State]

I think it helps us as well moving forward.

Yeah. A lot of the rules in the past like the 11.7 rule were targeted at leveling the playing field between the Mississippi State's and the South Alabama's.

The unintentional consequence was it actually created loopholes and so schools like LSU and Vanderbilt actually benefitted from those loopholes a lot. And yes, there were also loopholes that MSU took advantage of after Cohen became the coach too.

[basedog]

Yeah. A lot of the rules in the past like the 11.7 rule were targeted at leveling the playing field between the Mississippi State's and the South Alabama's.

The unintentional consequence was it actually created loopholes and so schools like LSU and Vanderbilt actually benefitted from those loopholes a lot. And yes, there were also loopholes that MSU took advantage of after Cohen became the coach too.

We should benefit with our baseball program with 34 scholars and our NIL. We may not pay what Lsu and others for the so call "Blue-chip 5-star NIL" player but there will be many 3 and 4 stars we will have a better chance in getting.

[TheLostDawg]

Really good for Mississippi State baseball. It makes our NIL stronger because some of our players in the past had to use some or all of NIL for tuition. We've lost recruiting battles before because of scholarship money- see Vanderbilt and LSU. Will help us retain players more often because a lot of times what would happen is a junior would essentially become a walk-on so we could offer more scholarship money to a prospect.

It is going to place a premium on evaluation and development because as Homedawg said they will make us set the roster in the fall. That means we have to make sure the players we have can contribute or they become a dead spot on the roster. We can't bring in 55 and then figure it out.

Recruiting classes are going to be smaller too going forward. Probably between 9-12 players if I had to guess. Probably won't see very many Tanner Leggett's coming to MSU going forward unless they kill it at USM or Memphis.

The only thing is I wish they had an option to add players to the roster if a current player gets injured. I also wish the roster was 36-40 but what we have going forward is a vast improvement.

Great. Thanks

[Todd4State]

We should benefit with our baseball program with 34 scholars and our NIL. We may not pay what Lsu and others for the so call "Blue-chip 5-star NIL" player but there will be many 3 and 4 stars we will have a better chance in getting.

Well LSU for example- they could use TOPS on in state players. That frees up some NIL for them to use.

[basedog]

Well LSU for example- they could use TOPS on in state players. That frees up some NIL for them to use.

Plus they have the "Hospital Source" to help out. Cheater gonna cheat and state La leads the country.

[viverlibre]

Yeah. A lot of the rules in the past like the 11.7 rule were targeted at leveling the playing field between the Mississippi State's and the South Alabama's.

The unintentional consequence was it actually created loopholes and so schools like LSU and Vanderbilt actually benefitted from those loopholes a lot. And yes, there were also loopholes that MSU took advantage of after Cohen became the coach too.

Polk also took some liberties. I know of one player from the Jxn area who loaded up on leadership/academic scholarships that a similarly credentialed student that didn't play baseball wouldn't have gotten.

[Hot Rock]

This probably does help, as we can give scholarships to everyone and now the NIL just becomes a bonus.

This should help us but how much? Is this huge? Does it allow State to create much better depth? Or does it just bring back the few teams that had the advantages of giving scholarships already? I believe this hurts Vandy more than LSU. One has tons of NIL $$ and this changes little while the other doesn't really care about sports, do they? I doubt Vandy's NIL is as good as ours but I could be wrong.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

The Memphis and USMs of the world will be the farm league for the SEC