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KOdawg1
06-28-2024, 09:08 AM
There's a push by many fans to encourage the athletic department to adopt the interlocking logo as the primary helmet logo for Mississippi State football. Hundreds are sending emails, so I figured I'd share it here. You can write your own or here's a standard email if you'd rather just copy that.


**** Send the email to these addresses:
athleticdirector@athletics.msstate.edu
APatrick@athletics.msstate.edu ****

Subject: Request for Interlocking Logo as Permanent Football Uniform and Apparel Logo

Dear Mississippi State University Athletic Department,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to strongly advocate for adopting the Interlocking logo as the permanent and full-time logo for Mississippi State University football uniforms and apparel. As a dedicated fan and supporter of MSU athletics, I have witnessed firsthand the overwhelming positive response from the fan base when this logo was reintroduced as part of the vault collection this year.

The reemergence of the Interlocking logo generated an enthusiastic and widespread embrace among Bulldogs fans. It not only resonated deeply with our school's proud history and traditions but also became a symbol of unity and pride for our community. The fan base demonstrated its support by purchasing significantly more apparel branded with the Interlocking logo compared to the banner logo, underscoring its popularity and significance.

Consistency in branding is essential for fostering a strong and recognizable athletic program. The Interlocking logo not only honors our heritage but also enhances our visual identity, both locally and nationally. By making this logo the consistent symbol on our football uniforms and apparel, we can further strengthen our identity and reinforce our collective spirit as Bulldogs.

I believe adopting the Interlocking logo as our official football uniform and apparel logo will be a positive and unifying decision for Mississippi State Athletics. It aligns with our traditions while setting a strong foundation for our future. I urge you to consider this proposal seriously and prioritize the preferences and enthusiasm of our dedicated fan base.

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I look forward to your response and hope for a favorable decision regarding the adoption of the Interlocking logo.

Warm regards,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Contact Information]
[Your Affiliation with MSU, if any]

gtowndawg
06-28-2024, 09:13 AM
No thanks, branding the script State is the smart play and having that on the helmet is the quickest way to brand awareness.

KOdawg1
06-28-2024, 09:13 AM
No thanks, branding the script State is the smart play and having that on the helmet is the quickest way to brand awareness.

Cool. No one is making you send the email. Many disagree with you

Cooterpoot
06-28-2024, 09:15 AM
Script State should be the overall brand, but putting interlocking on a football helmet, MoS on baseball caps, and script or block on basketball should happen. Every school has a primary brand and secondary logos. Larry 17ing Templeton could never grasp that concept.

KOdawg1
06-28-2024, 09:17 AM
Script State should be the overall brand, but putting interlocking on a football helmet, MoS on baseball caps, and script or block on basketball should happen. Every school has a primary brand and secondary logos.
Correct. I don't have a problem with the script state. It's a good logo. But the interlocking belongs on the helmet. Alabama doesn't put their A on their helmets. Florida doesn't put the big alligator on their's. South Carolina has multiple logos.

Cooterpoot
06-28-2024, 09:19 AM
I can understand waiting on changing logos until the State brand runs a little, and all the signage changed, but it should happen.

GoDawgz
06-28-2024, 09:27 AM
The interlocking MSU logo of the Sherill era was and is the best logo that State has had.
I even liked the 80's Don Smith era MSU with the stripe down the middle of the helmet. Yes i know its dated now and not modern.
The script State to me just looks a little odd and probable needs to be one size bigger on the font.
I agree with poot that each sport could/should have its own logo.
my 2 worthless cents.

Cooterpoot
06-28-2024, 10:22 AM
I love the State logo, love MoS, love block, but still prefer interlocking on a football helmet. Maybe we update it a little but it's damn good on a helmet!

RezDog7
06-28-2024, 10:54 AM
Script State should be the overall brand, but putting interlocking on a football helmet, MoS on baseball caps, and script or block on basketball should happen. Every school has a primary brand and secondary logos. Larry 17ing Templeton could never grasp that concept.

Script State looks amazing on a polo just like interlocking looks amazing on the helmet. Make it happen.

CaptainObvious
06-28-2024, 11:10 AM
Script Stare looks amazing on a polo just like interlocking looks amazing on the helmet. Make it happen.

Is Script Stare related to Burt Stare? Maybe he can shed some light on these logos.

KentuckyDawg13
06-28-2024, 12:03 PM
Also, doesn't Nike own the graphic?

Whatever.

KOdawg1
06-28-2024, 12:17 PM
Also, doesn't Nike own the graphic?

Whatever.

Nike doesn't own the logo as we just used it last year.

That was a lie fabricated by the Templeton administration that Mike Nemeth and others carried on for years. Not true.

RezDog7
06-28-2024, 01:05 PM
Is Script Stare related to Burt Stare? Maybe he can shed some light on these logos.

My apologies, predictive text got me.

gtowndawg
06-28-2024, 01:28 PM
Also, doesn't Nike own the graphic?

Whatever.

It's the summer topic du jour

Michigan State is MSU. We're "State" (which has far better brand value). I've owned a marketing company for 17 years. I don't know much but I know a little about marketing and branding.

KOdawg1
06-28-2024, 01:31 PM
It's the summer topic du jour

Michigan State is MSU. We're "State"

Oh no... those poor people watching us with our maroon helmets and maroon jerseys are going to think we're Michigan State!! And then what? Oh yeah, no one will care

BrunswickDawg
06-28-2024, 02:30 PM
Ah, the annual summetime boredom thread of "change the logos!!!"

https://media.gifdb.com/yawning-rowan-atkinson-in-johnny-english-movie-hq5hdypftmto1nbx.gif

Negative Waves
06-28-2024, 02:32 PM
NGL, the M over S logo for the UK game 2 years ago looked legit to me. It's the most unique logo to me for the school and should've been used for all sports from the beginning. I would like to see the football team wear the MSU helmets from the Rocky/early Sherrill era sometime soon at least as a throwback. That was my favorite of the football logos.

Todd4State
06-28-2024, 02:37 PM
Ah, the annual summetime boredom thread of "change the logos!!!"

https://media.gifdb.com/yawning-rowan-atkinson-in-johnny-english-movie-hq5hdypftmto1nbx.gif

This is legit. And these might have been our football uniforms already had the school not switched to the State script as their primary logo the same year.

Todd4State
06-28-2024, 02:37 PM
Oh no... those poor people watching us with our maroon helmets and maroon jerseys are going to think we're Michigan State!! And then what? Oh yeah, no one will care

One thing is for damn sure- the M-State logo didn't stop that or stop us from getting confused with Ole Miss.

Todd4State
06-28-2024, 02:39 PM
Nike doesn't own the logo as we just used it last year.

That was a lie fabricated by the Templeton administration that Mike Nemeth and others carried on for years. Not true.

I knew that was a lie because it never made any sense. Why would Nike covet that particular logo? It's not like it's a logo that is used throughout the world.

Cooterpoot
06-28-2024, 03:11 PM
It's the summer topic du jour

Michigan State is MSU. We're "State" (which has far better brand value). I've owned a marketing company for 17 years. I don't know much but I know a little about marketing and branding.

Yet, they use it on just about nothing, Not their helmets. So you're incorrect here. State is our Brand, MSU a logo under that brand. Guess what, Michigan St actually put State on their helmets.

Goldendawg
06-28-2024, 04:11 PM
Script State should be the overall brand, but putting interlocking on a football helmet, MoS on baseball caps, and script or block on basketball should happen. Every school has a primary brand and secondary logos. Larry 17ing Templeton could never grasp that concept.

This, 100% on all three sports. Class of '77 and family has had football season tickets about 55 consecutive years (called Bulldog Club yesterday and their records only go back to 1983). I have always loved the interlocking MSU in football!

Goldendawg
06-28-2024, 04:26 PM
One thing is for damn sure- the M-State logo didn't stop that or stop us from getting confused with Ole Miss.

Yep, OM comes out with their red block M and we go Johnny Come lately and slap the State banner across a maroon M. Interlocking MSU for FB, M over S for baseball, and M State ok for basketball I'm ok with. I have posted this here many times. How many of you when asked where you graduated from college or which college and its athletic programs you support ever, replied "MState"? No one, from day one of it's application. It's State, Mississippi State, or Mississippi State University!

Goldendawg
06-28-2024, 04:31 PM
I knew that was a lie because it never made any sense. Why would Nike covet that particular logo? It's not like it's a logo that is used throughout the world.

Yeah, I even heard propaganda that not only did Nike own it, but we couldn't use it as it was being used by Montana State U or Missouri State U. What a joke! Bring back some tradition!

dawgman
06-28-2024, 06:56 PM
We had the script S as the logo for basketball in the early 70's. I have Walter Wright's (74-77) #33 game worn jersey.

DownwardDawg
06-28-2024, 09:37 PM
It's the summer topic du jour

Michigan State is MSU. We're "State" (which has far better brand value). I've owned a marketing company for 17 years. I don't know much but I know a little about marketing and branding.
I agree. While the interlocking logo is my all time favorite, we are State. We need to push that.

parabrave
06-29-2024, 07:37 AM
Well we can always go back to this helmet logo

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1966 basketball then 1966 Baseball
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1976 BB https://ia800207.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/21/items/reveille711976miss/reveille711976miss_jp2.zip&file=reveille711976miss_jp2/reveille711976miss_0066.jp2&id=reveille711976miss&scale=4&rotate=0

Jarius
06-29-2024, 11:38 AM
No thanks, branding the script State is the smart play and having that on the helmet is the quickest way to brand awareness.

Cool. Take the M over S off the nonrevenue sport’s hats then.

Jarius
06-29-2024, 11:40 AM
It's the summer topic du jour

Michigan State is MSU. We're "State" (which has far better brand value). I've owned a marketing company for 17 years. I don't know much but I know a little about marketing and branding.

The interlocking social media videos got about ten times the amount of views as the script state uniform videos and multiple national writers talked on social media about how those 98 throwbacks were the best State uniforms we have ever had.

KOdawg1
06-29-2024, 12:18 PM
I agree. While the interlocking logo is my all time favorite, we are State. We need to push that.
Fine. Let's get rid of the M over S for baseball then.

Maroonthirteen
06-30-2024, 05:20 AM
I was pleased yesterday when I received a Bulldog Club letter that had the MState logo.

However, If this many people want a "MSU" logo. I hope &elmon can hire a design team to come with a better "MSU" than the 96-03 MSU. IMO, the 86-95 MSU was better.

Bdawg
06-30-2024, 08:47 AM
I agree. While the interlocking logo is my all time favorite, we are State. We need to push that.

Why cant STATE still be across the chest of the jersey with the interlocking on the helmet? Looks like a win win to me.

Turfdawg67
06-30-2024, 01:36 PM
The Script State is cheesy. I won't own anything that has that logo on it. I said what I said.

Maroonthirteen
06-30-2024, 01:50 PM
Every school has a primary brand and secondary logos. Larry 17ing Templeton could never grasp that concept.

What LT did is irrelevant. In 2009, Greg Byrne put together a national brand. It was our National brand through our most successful seasons, in multiple sports. You would think that brand would catch on and be a tradition and a reminder of a lot of success by football and basketball...... but nope.

Not state fans.......in the words of Jack Cristil, "the Bulldogs can't stand prosperity". People are making up stories and telling half truths in favor of a logo that was last worn as Arkansas beat our brains in 56-0 and the ncaa slapped us with probation.

Dawgology
06-30-2024, 02:32 PM
I love the interlocking but when we dropped it Michigan State leaned into it and we lost that moniker. Everyone?EVERYONE? in the SEC and out calls us State now. Our motto is Hail StateZ. We need to lean into that. The State script is ok but I would honestly like to see us do the block letter style State on the helmets for footballs. Old school, classic, look.

redstickdawg
06-30-2024, 03:56 PM
What LT did is irrelevant. In 2009, Greg Byrne put together a national brand. It was our National brand through our most successful seasons, in multiple sports. You would think that brand would catch on and be a tradition and a reminder of a lot of success by football and basketball...... but nope.

Not state fans.......in the words of Jack Cristil, "the Bulldogs can't stand prosperity". People are making up stories and telling half truths in favor of a logo that was last worn as Arkansas beat our brains in 56-0 and the ncaa slapped us with probation.

What Byrne did was irrelevant as well as it has failed, very few MSU fans and anyone else for that matter like the banner M-State. It is failed ugly, forgettable logo that needs to be retired. The interlocking MSU and the M over S need to be our logo's from here on out with an occasional use of the script State.

Maroonthirteen
06-30-2024, 04:29 PM
What Byrne did was irrelevant as well as it has failed, very few MSU fans and anyone else for that matter like the banner M-State. It is failed ugly, forgettable logo that needs to be .

State fans.... they hate themselves. Ha.

MState is literally on every building on campus.

Pancho
06-30-2024, 05:26 PM
isn't that a richard williams creation too?

Cooterpoot
06-30-2024, 05:49 PM
What LT did is irrelevant. In 2009, Greg Byrne put together a national brand. It was our National brand through our most successful seasons, in multiple sports. You would think that brand would catch on and be a tradition and a reminder of a lot of success by football and basketball...... but nope.

Not state fans.......in the words of Jack Cristil, "the Bulldogs can't stand prosperity". People are making up stories and telling half truths in favor of a logo that was last worn as Arkansas beat our brains in 56-0 and the ncaa slapped us with probation.

Byrne didn't do that. It was 100% driven by Templeton and some others. It was stupid and our terrible banding shows it. The fans never wanted it. We tried tweaking it a few times and fans hated it and it never worked. Almost no school has just one logo either. You simply have no idea what the 17 you're talking about.

KOdawg1
06-30-2024, 07:58 PM
State fans.... they hate themselves. Ha.

MState is literally on every building on campus.

You're in the 2% of people that actually like the M state. It's a shitty logo. Glad it's gone from our athletics and isn't coming back.

Todd4State
06-30-2024, 09:39 PM
Byrne didn't do that. It was 100% driven by Templeton and some others. It was stupid and our terrible banding shows it. The fans never wanted it. We tried tweaking it a few times and fans hated it and it never worked. Almost no school has just one logo either. You simply have no idea what the 17 you're talking about.

"Unified branding" = it's cheaper to put one logo on everything.- LT.

Maroonthirteen
06-30-2024, 10:08 PM
Byrne didn't do that. It was 100% driven by Templeton and some others. It was stupid and our terrible banding shows it. The fans never wanted it. We tried tweaking it a few times and fans hated it and it never worked. Almost no school has just one logo either. You simply have no idea what the 17 you're talking about.

Ha. Byrne and a national marketing firm came up with the current MState logo and all the images on the branding web page.

You are lying.

Maroonthirteen
06-30-2024, 10:14 PM
Glad it's gone from our athletics and isn't coming back.

&elmon played y'all to sell skinny msu merch. MState isn't going away. Skinny msu will be gone now that he has sold you some merch. &issy logo is your new helmet decal.

KOdawg1
07-01-2024, 12:36 AM
&elmon played y'all to sell skinny msu merch. MState isn't going away. Skinny msu will be gone now that he has sold you some merch. &issy logo is your new helmet decal.
Your ugly logo has been phased out of our athletic programs. It's gone. About damn time too.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 01:49 AM
&elmon played y'all to sell skinny msu merch. MState isn't going away. Skinny msu will be gone now that he has sold you some merch. &issy logo is your new helmet decal.

I have heard rumors that we will use the interlocking MSU uniforms again for special games. I think eventually it will come back honestly as the primary. The biggest reason it probably hasn't is because of the switch to the script state logo.

Cooterpoot
07-01-2024, 07:45 AM
Ha. Byrne and a national marketing firm came up with the current MState logo and all the images on the branding web page.

You are lying.

Dude, Croom had the banner M on helmets long before Byrne got here. Templeton and the faculty etc. put all that together in some genius plot to have one bad logo. Go cry about that ugly sum beach somewhere else. It got forced on the fans over a lie.

Maroonthirteen
07-01-2024, 08:22 AM
Dude, Croom had the banner M on helmets long before Byrne got here. Templeton and the faculty etc. put all that together in some genius plot to have one bad logo. Go cry about that ugly sum beach somewhere else. It got forced on the fans over a lie.

First y'all are crying about it. The "banner M" logo is the Mississippi State University logo.

No you are not telling the whole story. Again, the LT Banner M was introduced in 1996 and on the football field beginning in 1997. True. However In 2008ish-09 Byrne started a project to brand Mississippi State. Byrne and many others got together and come up with the current version of the "banner M" (and many other new and old logos) to be the brand. The Byrne "banner M" is the current logo you see all over campus.

https://hailstate.com/sports/2009/4/7/3714042


The importance of what Byrne did was that they had the opportunity at that point to create a MSU logo as the brand of Mississippi State. They could have brought back skinny msu. HOWEVER they did not even include one version of a MSU logo in the branding.

I'm done. Y'all keep crying and writing letters.

Maroonthirteen
07-01-2024, 08:41 AM
I will add one fact of information about skinny msu.... State wore the Nike skinny msu logo/uniform during the WORST (win totals) three years (01-03) of MSU football since 1967-1969. .....and the ncaa probation cherry on top.

Brobi-wan
07-01-2024, 08:55 AM
I actually like all our Logos. The script State may look better on BB jerseys than football helmets. State script is clean, but most kids can’t even write it so who really cares. Lol

Jarius
07-01-2024, 09:28 AM
First y'all are crying about it. The "banner M" logo is the Mississippi State University logo.

No you are not telling the whole story. Again, the LT Banner M was introduced in 1996 and on the football field beginning in 1997. True. However In 2008ish-09 Byrne started a project to brand Mississippi State. Byrne and many others got together and come up with the current version of the "banner M" (and many other new and old logos) to be the brand. The Byrne "banner M" is the current logo you see all over campus.

https://hailstate.com/sports/2009/4/7/3714042


The importance of what Byrne did was that they had the opportunity at that point to create a MSU logo as the brand of Mississippi State. They could have brought back skinny msu. HOWEVER they did not even include one version of a MSU logo in the branding.

I'm done. Y'all keep crying and writing letters.



Your logo sucks and now it’s no longer going to be a part of our athletic uniforms, Rhett. Get over it.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 01:15 PM
First y'all are crying about it. The "banner M" logo is the Mississippi State University logo.

No you are not telling the whole story. Again, the LT Banner M was introduced in 1996 and on the football field beginning in 1997. True. However In 2008ish-09 Byrne started a project to brand Mississippi State. Byrne and many others got together and come up with the current version of the "banner M" (and many other new and old logos) to be the brand. The Byrne "banner M" is the current logo you see all over campus.

https://hailstate.com/sports/2009/4/7/3714042


The importance of what Byrne did was that they had the opportunity at that point to create a MSU logo as the brand of Mississippi State. They could have brought back skinny msu. HOWEVER they did not even include one version of a MSU logo in the branding.

I'm done. Y'all keep crying and writing letters.

Even when Byrne was around there was a lot of LT influence in the AD.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 01:18 PM
I will add one fact of information about skinny msu.... State wore the Nike skinny msu logo/uniform during the WORST (win totals) three years (01-03) of MSU football since 1967-1969. .....and the ncaa probation cherry on top.

And I will add that we also wore those during the 1999 season where we had a better record than 2014, the 1998 SEC West Championship season and when we beat Florida in 2000, and Alabama in 1996. So probably the majority of our major wins the past 30 years were when we were wearing those uniforms. Oh and 2001 when we beat Eli.

Cooterpoot
07-01-2024, 01:48 PM
2004 was the move to the banner M and we switched from Nike to Russell (Holy Hell LT sucked!) after the LT lie about Nike owning the logo was fed to fans (LT straight up lied). The man was worthless as an AD outside of pinching a penny until it bled. He and the faculty and some other disciples actually worked together on all of it for a State logo for athletics and the school. Byrne got stuck with it because they had put too much into it to back away and just stayed that course and then hauled ass. Everybody tried to tweak the ugly SOB but there's no way fans were ever accepting it. Finally we hired someone with vision and a sack, and we've moved away from it. It took a non-MSU person to do it.

StarkVegasSteve
07-01-2024, 02:32 PM
2004 was the move to the banner M and we switched from Nike to Russell (Holy Hell LT sucked!) after the LT lie about Nike owning the logo was fed to fans (LT straight up lied). The man was worthless as an AD outside of pinching a penny until it bled. He and the faculty and some other disciples actually worked together on all of it for a State logo for athletics and the school. Byrne got stuck with it because they had put too much into it to back away and just stayed that course and then hauled ass. Everybody tried to tweak the ugly SOB but there's no way fans were ever accepting it. Finally we hired someone with vision and a sack, and we've moved away from it. It took a non-MSU person to do it.

LT try to end our athletic dept on multiple occasions.

Goldendawg
07-01-2024, 06:19 PM
LT try to end our athletic dept on multiple occasions.

Come on, admit it. You miss the "Templeton Troughs" at Davis Wade!*** Never forget the first experience of my then 4 year old son in a Westside mens room, "Dad, we get to pee in the floor!". LT was the friendliest AD I ever met, as long as he knew were a mega donor or one of the "Cigar Boys", perhaps.****

MagicDawg
07-01-2024, 06:20 PM
I like the M-State mainly because of the success I associate with it. It is also a square-ish image and easily fit into a variety of configurations. It is easily embroidered. It stands up to pixelization.

Winning consistently makes any logo more popular.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 10:26 PM
LT try to end our athletic dept on multiple occasions.

He also tried to end the LFL. Not like what Cohen did either with the new stadium.

Like literally no more LFL.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 10:27 PM
Come on, admit it. You miss the "Templeton Troughs" at Davis Wade!*** Never forget the first experience of my then 4 year old son in a Westside mens room, "Dad, we get to pee in the floor!". LT was the friendliest AD I ever met, as long as he knew were a mega donor or one of the "Cigar Boys", perhaps.****

I remember the trough. LOL. Gotta love our 1930's era football field.

Todd4State
07-01-2024, 10:28 PM
I like the M-State mainly because of the success I associate with it. It is also a square-ish image and easily fit into a variety of configurations. It is easily embroidered. It stands up to pixelization.

Winning consistently makes any logo more popular.

Well the funny thing about it is I remember in 2014 our most popular uniforms were the ones that were modeled after the 1998 uniforms.